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HTC HD2 will ‘officially’ be upgradeable to Windows Mobile 7

While not wanting to reveal their source for this piece of information, msmobiles.com has gone on the record as saying that HTC will put out an OFFICIAL upgrade of Windows Mobile 7 for the HTC HD2 as soon as Microsoft makes it available.
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http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-hd2-will-officially-be-upgradeable-to-windows-mobile-7.html

I think it's worth reading some of the comments made against the "source" of that claim:
http://msmobiles.com/f/viewtopic.php?t=24691

Unless HTC go out of their minds they surely won't release a WM7 update for HD2 in Q4 2010, as by that time they will have a new flagship device ready for the holiday season.

vangrieg said:
Unless HTC go out of their minds they surely won't release a WM7 update for HD2 in Q4 2010, as by that time they will have a new flagship device ready for the holiday season.
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I think HTC is faced with the same issue they faced with the launch of the Diamond 2 and Touch pro 2 months prior to the official launch of WM6.5. The HD2 is due to be released in the US and other territories in Q1 2010 at the same time WM7 is due to be officially announced. Faced with the same circumstances they faced with WM6.5 I expect them to act in the same way and provide a update to WM7 as otherwise sales in the markets it is due to be released in in 2010 Q1 would be likely to be severly limited. Any other course does not make much sense.

WM7 is going to be announced in Q1, but judging by the information that's been out so far it's still due to be released no earlier than Q3/Q4 2010.

vangrieg said:
WM7 is going to be announced in Q1, but judging by the information that's been out so far it's still due to be released no earlier than Q3/Q4 2010.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here, though the official announcement was necessarily earlier. HTC has announced a future policy of releasing less models and going for more volume, so not offering a WM7 update to US Q1 purchasers would surely severly restrict potential HD2 sale volumes.
It probably makes little difference to us here I guess, as I suspect like me many early adopters would probably be ready for a new phone come this time next year in any event.

CAH000 said:
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here
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May through October is 5 months. October through October is 12 months. Don't know about you, but I see one hell of a lot of difference. Also, Diamond 2 and TP2 got their upgrades at a time when they are still the top-of-the-line HTC smaller form factor and QWERTY models (i.e. the upgrade gave them a boost in the middle of their lifecycle). By the time WM7 will come out it will be time for HTC to launch a successor to HD2, so the latter will have to go out of the way. That's another huge difference in my opinion.
CAH000 said:
not offering a WM7 update to US Q1 purchasers would surely severly restrict potential HD2 sale volumes.
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I think you overestimate general consumer awareness about what WM versions exist and what the difference is. Android may be well-known because of the media hysteria, but if MS are going to advertise WM7 they have already shown that they now smartly refer to their stuff as "Windows Phone", and that will be the name by which most people will likely know phones like HD2 or HD3.

I burped so hard while I read this.

I'm not worried about a new flagship device. By the time HTC arrives with it the issues of the HD2 will be solved and be used to your hearts content. Don't forget there is a 1 GHZ processor in the HD2. The good news, and not unexpectedly, HD2 will probably be upgradable to windows mobile 7 is the logical step. The current windows mobile 6.5 has developed itself and feels like the windows vista equivalent. I think it would only be logical to argument, just like windows 7 to consider windows mobile 7 an "update" to windows mobile 6.5 rather than an "upgrade". I think it would do the HD2 justice. One can just feel that the HD2 can do more than what the current OS is portraying. It would be like extending the life of the HD2.

Wevenhuis said:
I'm not worried about a new flagship device. By the time HTC arrives with it the issues of the HD2 will be solved and be used to your hearts content. Don't forget there is a 1 GHZ processor in the HD2. The good news, and not unexpectedly, HD2 will probably be upgradable to windows mobile 7 is the logical step. The current windows mobile 6.5 has developed itself and feels like the windows vista equivalent. I think it would only be logical to argument, just like windows 7 to consider windows mobile 7 an "update" to windows mobile 6.5 rather than an "upgrade". I think it would do the HD2 justice. One can just feel that the HD2 can do more than what the current OS is portraying. It would be like extending the life of the HD2.
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Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.

karan999 said:
Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
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Microsoft? Android?

WM 7 on HD2
I predict that long before WM 7 is officially released, we will see it on our HD2's.
I don't need to be Nostradamus to know that.

karan999 said:
Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
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Surely you mean if HTC give an Android update for the HD2. And even then, it wouldn't be an update...Never going to happen mate.
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Microsoft? Android?
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Xaddict said:
I predict that long before WM 7 is officially released, we will see it on our HD2's.
I don't need to be Nostradamus to know that.
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I'm agree!

I think that they probably mean an update to WM 6.5.1.
When WM7 will be released our beloved HD2 is an old piece of hardware

No win 7 for hd2....
Read http://www.htcphones.net/htc-hd2-will-not-get-wm7-update/

Great! p1ss on my chips why don't you...

CAH000 said:
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here
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The big difference is that W7 is a new OS, while 6.5 was just an update. I don't think WM7 will be officially available for the HD2. In autumn 2010 when WM7 will ship, the HD2 will be outdated anyway, and HTC will do everything to shift customers to their new products that ship with WM7. It will be a major sales argument to go for a new phone next year. HTC would be commercially stupid to offer WM7 free of charge for their "old" phones.
janne303 said:
Read http://www.htcphones.net/htc-hd2-will-not-get-wm7-update/
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Another self-appointed HTC spokesman. Why don't they simply say "we believe that ...." or "we speculate that ....". Otherwise. completely meaningless.

chainbolt said:
Another self-appointed HTC spokesman. Why don't they simply say "we believe that ...." or "we speculate that ....". Otherwise. completely meaningless.
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^^^^
+1.

http://pocketnow.com/rumor/htc-confirms-that-hd2-gets-windows-mobile-7-on-twitter

Android 2.1 Update for HTC hero is postponed to April

http://www.i-newswire.com/htc-hero-to-get-android-2-1-update/26667 --> Says that the much awaited 2.1 update for HTC Hero is postponed to the month of April.. :-(
Please some one say this is wrong.. I m hitting their support site thrice a day.. (UK, Orange)

Makes sense with the impending release of the legend and with the fact that even the milestone has not yet had its 2.1 update.
The wait continues.
Edit: that article is just stupid anyway read the last paragraph....

Lennyuk said:
Makes sense with the impending release of the legend and with the fact that even the milestone has not yet had its 2.1 update.
The wait continues.
Edit: that article is just stupid anyway read the last paragraph....
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hehe Nexus One is a HTC device so "never buying HTC devices again" but "Buying Nexus One" is kinda stupid
Although I must say, I would prefer Nexus One over the Desire just because I know Google will "always" make sure it'll get new software updates and the Desire updates will be postponed just like the Hero ones due to business agreements and SenseUI issues and more...

I have been using Legends n Eris's ROMS ported onto Hero, so far.. But all that I want is a stable 2.1 ROM from HTC.. Instead of releasing new phones like Legend (Which is just a metal upgrade for HTC Hero + 1GHz proc) they should have concentrated on releasing update for Hero which has a large customer base. And I even read somewhere that Both Sprint Hero n GSM Hero have won awards in their respective categories.. This aint happening..

harsha_aithal said:
http://www.i-newswire.com/htc-hero-to-get-android-2-1-update/26667 --> Says that the much awaited 2.1 update for HTC Hero is postponed to the month of April.. :-(
Please some one say this is wrong.. I m hitting their support site thrice a day.. (UK, Orange)
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This isn't a press release - it's rumour and supposition, the same as all the rumour threads on this site.
It may well be that the update doesn't come until April, but this poorly written article isn't an official HTC missive and therefore should be treated as hearsay at best and a fabrication at worst.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
This isn't a press release - it's rumour and supposition, the same as all the rumour threads on this site.
It may well be that the update doesn't come until April, but this poorly written article isn't an official HTC missive and therefore should be treated as hearsay at best and a fabrication at worst.
Regards,
Dave
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5903911#post5903911 -- This includes the official reply from HTC Customer Care person, who has clearly stated that updates are to be expected in Late April.
To get more on this, I myself has drafted a mail to HTC CC.. will post their reply once they come back to me.

Don´t bother, the shipped rom works wery well and with no MMS/GPS/Sound/ problems!
Read all the problems with coked rom´s on the net!!!
So I´m running on v1.5 until HTC release v2.1

waiting ?
Thank you HTC for 6 mounth waiting for nothing... Good hardware and diminished support!
Thank you for all Developers, for your time, your investment and your creativity.
Sorry for my english...

leffep said:
Don´t bother, the shipped rom works wery well and with no MMS/GPS/Sound/ problems!
Read all the problems with coked rom´s on the net!!!
So I´m running on v1.5 until HTC release v2.1
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Thats your opinion, I am very happy running the custom 2.1 rom that I currently am and it has no issues at all (at least not for me)

Lennyuk said:
Thats your opinion, I am very happy running the custom 2.1 rom that I currently am and it has no issues at all (at least not for me)
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I agree that the custom 2.1 ROM give us lot of options. Full credits to all developers. But I just didn find a stable ROM yet.. :-(

Latest reply from HTC Customer Care regarding 2.1 Update for HTC Hero
New Response From [ Anthony (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Dear Customer,
We understand that now that a phone running Android OS 2.1 is available that you are excited to get an update for your Hero. We are still hard at work building Sense for this new version but we expect to have the upgrade finished and ready to go soon. Please understand that it takes time to customize any Android version to ensure you have the intuitive experience Sense provides, and we hope you can be patient for just a little while longer.
Kind Regards,
Anthony M
HTC
Customer Information
Name Harsha S
Telephone +91 9176665288
Email Address [email protected]
Country United Kingdom
Inquiry Information
Inquiry Type Technical Support
Inquiry Description Hi, I have been waiting for Android 2.1 Update for my HTC Hero from last 3 months. All that I have got is news of update being getting postponed. Recent one told me that the update is coming in "LATE APRIL". :-( Harsha S
Issue Date & Time
2010/03/17 10:05

I think that HTC should schedule two differents update for each android device, one with clean android OS and optimized drivers focused on specific hardware, and one with optimized senseUI and others HTC customizations... in that case, it could follow OS upgrade very fast and satisfy who want to be updated with OS, and then take all required time to optimize and develop custom UI...
anyway... it is exciting to test and try custom 2.1 roms and the developers here at xda are doing a great work!
but it is also frustrating to wait for HTC official update!

Yeah getting access to a new kernal would be nice

Is this update so important???
We can flash HERO with a good working port rom and we have 2.1
I do not see the problem haha

160bpm said:
Is this update so important???
We can flash HERO with a good working port rom and we have 2.1
I do not see the problem haha
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Sure we have some nice 2.1 roms at the moment but they are inherently buggy with things that will definitely be fixed when we can lay our hands on an official rom things like battery life and 3d graphics.

harsha_aithal said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5903911#post5903911 -- This includes the official reply from HTC Customer Care person, who has clearly stated that updates are to be expected in Late April.
To get more on this, I myself has drafted a mail to HTC CC.. will post their reply once they come back to me.
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I've seen that too! I've seen all the threads, and not one of them has an "official" date in it.
The simple fact of the matter is that HTC customer care do not have a clue. Take anything you read as coming from them with a large pinch of salt.
Regardless, this doesn't change the fact that the "press release" you linked to is clearly not an official HTC statement.
Regards,
dave

What!?
Ok so this has pi**ed me off. I have been waiting for the 2.1 official update to be released now for a LONG time - the issue really is that it was "meant" to come around about now (mid March). It's the fact that it's seeming been pushed back and now artificially put on hold because they don't want to affect the freaking Leg-end. I'd much rather they just announced the update wil be available on a specific date - 23rd July for e.g. and then if it's early its a bonus. They must be aware/accept that Android users are going to be more tech-savvy than most and will therefore not appreciate being jerked around and left in the lurch while users of other Android handsets have 2.1 already and have for a while now = no real technical reason for the delay as far as I'm concerned.
Having said all the above - what do HTC care? If someone from HTC reads these forums then the above is my 2 cents and I think they would create a lot of GOODwill instead of resentment if they were more transparent with their customers. I'm seriously doubting whether to buy HTC or HTC made again because I *like* to be up-to-date with functionalities etc. A platform like Android was *made* to be upgradeable and improved upon and this is a clear case of HTC's beuracracy getting in the way of their customer service. They don't have to do jack sh*t for their customers though because of course once you've bought a phone you're usually locked in - but they sure as hell could learn a thing or two about engendering customer appreciation and loyalty.
So there will be people out there who think "What's the problem?! Your phone runs fine!" Well if you're asking that question then you're probably not reading this forum in the first place because then why would you have any interest in phone OS development and all the joys it brings.
I hope this report is wrong. I hope the ROM comes very soon because I guarantee HTC (not that they care) that delaying it much longer will do quite a lot to put people off their SenseUI phones and HTC in general. Apple is due to release 4.0 soon and Microsoft is about to unleash Winmo7 series so it's not like there's a lack of competition.
You all know what i MEAN - even if i didn't say it right!
I haven't yet found a single 2.1 rom that is stable enough to use daily and that includes my respect and reverence for the talent and hard work that goes into making these cooked roms.
Ola!

harsha_aithal said:
New Response From [ Anthony (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Dear Customer,
We understand that now that a phone running Android OS 2.1 is available that you are excited to get an update for your Hero. We are still hard at work building Sense for this new version but we expect to have the upgrade finished and ready to go soon. Please understand that it takes time to customize any Android version to ensure you have the intuitive experience Sense provides, and we hope you can be patient for just a little while longer.
Kind Regards,
Anthony M
HTC
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OT: Handy tip! You *really* want to edit that post to remove your personal information!
Canned reply that we've seen before! This just goes to prove what I just said about the HTC CC staff.
We are still hard at work building Sense for this new version
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Except for the fact that the Legend and the Desire *prove* that Sense for 2.1 is already complete! Even if you can't buy one off the shelf today, if they are going to be available at the end of this month, they are already built, boxed, and probably with retailers right now.
Regards,
Dave

Unless they need to make some changes for the hero that we haven't considered?
Can't think what though

What's wrong with 1.5?
Why is everyone so desperate to get 2.1 on their Hero. The 1.5 ROM works very well for me anyway and I don't have any battery or any other problems.
I've tried all the various 2.1 ROMs on this board and while they are very well done I haven't found any to have the battery life of 1.5 so have always reverted back to the shipped ROM.
Now if 1.5 was full of bugs then I could understand all the fuss. As it's not - I can't.
Don't get me wrong I shall upgrade to 2.1 as soon as it's released I just can't understand the rush.
Is there some "must have" facility that I'm missing on the 2.1 ROM?

Legend and froyo

Hallo! i have heard allot of rumours that legend won't be getting froyo
is it true?

like you said they are rumours.
just wait. think there will soon be more info from htc when the first 2.2 phones are released.

the rumours are indeed very iffy

I honestly just posted an entire rant last night about this, allow me to quote myself...
kylecore said:
Well I've heard multiple times before this that customer service reps from htc have also confirmed the update to froyo for the legend. The most recent being an email from a customer service rep stating that the user fear not about his flash playing troubles because android 2.2 and incidentally flash 10.1 would be released for the htc legend within the next 2 weeks.
Follow this up by the recent release of flash 10.1 for android 2.2 and the release of the android 2.2 source code being released today the statement of "within the next 2 weeks" seem to be exactly what is happening. Not only is android 2.2 pretty much here but will be available sooner rather then later. To add further flame to the fire htc repeatedly said android 2.2 will be supported by almost all 2010 devices and with the desire being more widely available and more powerful it is more likely to be put in with definite android 2.2 compatible even though the desire and legend get almost always get updates at the same time.
The most likely reason the statement was pulled? Well it must simply be due to google not publishing the source code yet, thus letting people essentially know froyo is ready.
Htc most certainly can't pull the plug on 2.2 before google itself does. But! Now that it has published final froyo source code it is 99.9% done and is most likely waiting to be uploaded to the server.
My uneducated guess is that we'll see froyo on the legend by mid july at the latest.
Also not sure if anyone thought of this, but bell (and indirectly virgin mobile canada) are not stupid companies. They are introducing a new android phone and thus throwing massive amounts of ad $ and marketing into it, from both bell/virgin AND htc itself. Remember this is virgins FIRST android set and bells 4th or 5th, they would most likely have talked to htc to make sure the device is upgradeable to the newest android. They just started selling it, they aren't going to allow it to be out dated within the month its released! If the did it would be a waste on advertising and a waste of introducing a new phone.
That's just my 2 cents, but it seems very logical to me, how about you?
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Soo yeah that's my 2 cents, but it seems reasonable if you ask me.
Aaaand lastly, there's a guy currently working on porting froyo over and you can follow it at this thread in the forum, here's the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709078

Just to throw some fuel in the fire, check out this link
The Flash Player 10.1 can be availed as a final production release for smartphones and tablets as soon as users can upgrade to Android 2.2 “Froyo”. Handsets which are anticipated to support “Froyo” and Flash Player 10.1 include Google Nexus One, HTC Evo, HTC Desire, HTC Incredible, Dell Streak, Samsung Galaxy S, DROID by Motorola, Motorola Milestone and more.
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Adobe didn't state HTC Legend on their supported devices list...could this mean no 2.2 for Legend? or Is HTC dumbing down 2.2 for Legend as they did with 2.1?
If 2.2 is dumbed down for Legend, it better have WiFi hotspot as a stock 2.2 rom would have, or I am going to be one pissed off long legged puerto rican!

T-Mobile 3.14 Update has yet to be officially delivered

My guess is, they are waiting to the release day of the HD7, then to appease the HD2 owners until they pluck down money for the new model, they deliver a lukewarm update. It's not a bad update at all, solid, and stable, it's just that it fails to add anything new and or exciting, application or feature wise.
I see the updates for EU, in all the 3.14.4xx.2 flavors, and it irks me. Football provided the leaked 3.14.531.0 TMOUS ROM a month ago and yet T-Mobile has yet to post it for download. Not that I would RUN a plain jane vanilla ROM like that for long. And yes, we have the packages in the builds our esteemed chefs are providing.
It's just that I know why T-Mobile has not provided. They are all busy with the Shiny new HD7 to bother with updates for a phone that they are likely to pull in a few weeks. No M-O-N-E-Y in it. That's okay, they are a business and entitled to look for profitable moves, but it's the loyalty thing that gets pushed aside, and over the long haul, that will hurt them more.

I here that....no loyalty....tmous notorious for that...will see what happens, Ty all xda chefs for helping us revive a dead hd2!!!!!!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

still patiently waiting
Any news of a release date?
i find it hard to understand why the rom upgrade cannot be made available to all hd2 users on the same day

say what? I got a text message nearly 2 weeks ago stating that the update was available and I downloaded it and installed it on October 19,2010 straight from T-mobile's website.

When will Gingerbread hit DHD?

OK, this question is ought to show up at some point:
Nexus One will be getting Gingerbread over the next few days - What about DHD?
I know it typically takes HTC a good few month to adapt new version of andriod, but for a sparkling new flagship device to have an obsolete OS before its publicly available in large quantity, its a bit silly.

It should be, and there should be no reason why it shouldn't
HTC is usually the one that updates most of their phones early compared to Sony Ericsson or Samsung

At a wild guess it will be Q1 next year.
At any rate there is nothing wrong with the DHD shipping os. If gingerbread will bring some new features then all good but since I don't have those features now I don't miss them
I have not noticed any bugs, instability, or lag in the DHD either.
I guess what I'm saying is that I'm happy to wait. After using sense ui I find AOSP android to be a little too bland for my tastes, so I certainly won't be switching back to my Nexus One as my daily phone just because of Gingerbread.

Just read in a couple of places that Htc people have confirmed that the Desire HD is going to be updated with gingerbread. Just mailed them asking for an exact date though i think they will provide me with a very vague answer.....just hoping the update comes sooner than i think it is going to...

Just got a reply from htc ... as expected
With regards to your reply,
Kindly note that we cannot comment on speculation or rumor, but we’re excited about our upcoming products and encourage you to visit htc.com for more information.
For more support information, you can contact us by phone: +20-238-272-843
http://www.htc.com/www/support.aspx or you can go to:
http://www.htc.com/mea-en/selectcountry.aspx, select your country and then click on the Support tab.
Thank you once again for your continued patronage.
Sincerely,
Hasnaa
HTC

this is their official reply from the HTC UK fastbook account
We are excited about the OS update coming for Android, and will definitely have some phones running this OS, we do not have a specific timeframe for new phones or updates at this time. Please stay tuned though.
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