While not wanting to reveal their source for this piece of information, msmobiles.com has gone on the record as saying that HTC will put out an OFFICIAL upgrade of Windows Mobile 7 for the HTC HD2 as soon as Microsoft makes it available.
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http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-hd2-will-officially-be-upgradeable-to-windows-mobile-7.html
I think it's worth reading some of the comments made against the "source" of that claim:
http://msmobiles.com/f/viewtopic.php?t=24691
Unless HTC go out of their minds they surely won't release a WM7 update for HD2 in Q4 2010, as by that time they will have a new flagship device ready for the holiday season.
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Unless HTC go out of their minds they surely won't release a WM7 update for HD2 in Q4 2010, as by that time they will have a new flagship device ready for the holiday season.
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I think HTC is faced with the same issue they faced with the launch of the Diamond 2 and Touch pro 2 months prior to the official launch of WM6.5. The HD2 is due to be released in the US and other territories in Q1 2010 at the same time WM7 is due to be officially announced. Faced with the same circumstances they faced with WM6.5 I expect them to act in the same way and provide a update to WM7 as otherwise sales in the markets it is due to be released in in 2010 Q1 would be likely to be severly limited. Any other course does not make much sense.
WM7 is going to be announced in Q1, but judging by the information that's been out so far it's still due to be released no earlier than Q3/Q4 2010.
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WM7 is going to be announced in Q1, but judging by the information that's been out so far it's still due to be released no earlier than Q3/Q4 2010.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here, though the official announcement was necessarily earlier. HTC has announced a future policy of releasing less models and going for more volume, so not offering a WM7 update to US Q1 purchasers would surely severly restrict potential HD2 sale volumes.
It probably makes little difference to us here I guess, as I suspect like me many early adopters would probably be ready for a new phone come this time next year in any event.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here
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May through October is 5 months. October through October is 12 months. Don't know about you, but I see one hell of a lot of difference. Also, Diamond 2 and TP2 got their upgrades at a time when they are still the top-of-the-line HTC smaller form factor and QWERTY models (i.e. the upgrade gave them a boost in the middle of their lifecycle). By the time WM7 will come out it will be time for HTC to launch a successor to HD2, so the latter will have to go out of the way. That's another huge difference in my opinion.
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I think you overestimate general consumer awareness about what WM versions exist and what the difference is. Android may be well-known because of the media hysteria, but if MS are going to advertise WM7 they have already shown that they now smartly refer to their stuff as "Windows Phone", and that will be the name by which most people will likely know phones like HD2 or HD3.
I burped so hard while I read this.
I'm not worried about a new flagship device. By the time HTC arrives with it the issues of the HD2 will be solved and be used to your hearts content. Don't forget there is a 1 GHZ processor in the HD2. The good news, and not unexpectedly, HD2 will probably be upgradable to windows mobile 7 is the logical step. The current windows mobile 6.5 has developed itself and feels like the windows vista equivalent. I think it would only be logical to argument, just like windows 7 to consider windows mobile 7 an "update" to windows mobile 6.5 rather than an "upgrade". I think it would do the HD2 justice. One can just feel that the HD2 can do more than what the current OS is portraying. It would be like extending the life of the HD2.
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I'm not worried about a new flagship device. By the time HTC arrives with it the issues of the HD2 will be solved and be used to your hearts content. Don't forget there is a 1 GHZ processor in the HD2. The good news, and not unexpectedly, HD2 will probably be upgradable to windows mobile 7 is the logical step. The current windows mobile 6.5 has developed itself and feels like the windows vista equivalent. I think it would only be logical to argument, just like windows 7 to consider windows mobile 7 an "update" to windows mobile 6.5 rather than an "upgrade". I think it would do the HD2 justice. One can just feel that the HD2 can do more than what the current OS is portraying. It would be like extending the life of the HD2.
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Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
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Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
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Microsoft? Android?
WM 7 on HD2
I predict that long before WM 7 is officially released, we will see it on our HD2's.
I don't need to be Nostradamus to know that.
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Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
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Surely you mean if HTC give an Android update for the HD2. And even then, it wouldn't be an update...Never going to happen mate.
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Microsoft? Android?
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I predict that long before WM 7 is officially released, we will see it on our HD2's.
I don't need to be Nostradamus to know that.
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I'm agree!
I think that they probably mean an update to WM 6.5.1.
When WM7 will be released our beloved HD2 is an old piece of hardware
No win 7 for hd2....
Read http://www.htcphones.net/htc-hd2-will-not-get-wm7-update/
Great! p1ss on my chips why don't you...
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here
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The big difference is that W7 is a new OS, while 6.5 was just an update. I don't think WM7 will be officially available for the HD2. In autumn 2010 when WM7 will ship, the HD2 will be outdated anyway, and HTC will do everything to shift customers to their new products that ship with WM7. It will be a major sales argument to go for a new phone next year. HTC would be commercially stupid to offer WM7 free of charge for their "old" phones.
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Read http://www.htcphones.net/htc-hd2-will-not-get-wm7-update/
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Another self-appointed HTC spokesman. Why don't they simply say "we believe that ...." or "we speculate that ....". Otherwise. completely meaningless.
chainbolt said:
Another self-appointed HTC spokesman. Why don't they simply say "we believe that ...." or "we speculate that ....". Otherwise. completely meaningless.
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^^^^
+1.
http://pocketnow.com/rumor/htc-confirms-that-hd2-gets-windows-mobile-7-on-twitter
Related
wm7 Review feature an screenshot
http://eng.mobiset.ru/articles/text/?id=45
MICROSOFT NEW WM7 RELEASE DELAYED LOOK HERE
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10048061-56.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.0
Last week's news - today!
Delayed again?
Now it will be released 2010?
LOL, You're linking to a page, saying september 23! That doesn't say anything to you?
lolacaust -.-
Breaking news, as we know them from fox
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Delayed again?
Now it will be released 2010?
LOL, You're linking to a page, saying september 23! That doesn't say anything to you?
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LINK SAY
"Although Microsoft has not publicly said when to expect Windows Mobile 7, partners who had expected to have a final release in their hands by early next year have been told now that it won't be ready until the second half of next year"
i did not know that, but anyway i did not expect wm7 this or the next year
This will be the death of windows mobile if not a wonder happens and they are able to make a fast, logical, functionel and good looking OS. but this would mean to make every application in wm new.
If they can manage that: okay, but really lets all say thank you too iphone and android, that there is going somthing foward after all the years of microsoft stagnancy.
Must wait to 2010/11.
So annoying... I'm really looking forward to WM7.
bummer
we all need the new windows mobile....cuz this one sucks!!
hey I won't complain, as long as they take the time to make sure its done right. I would love to have the zune features on my phone. plus its an all new code base I hear. so this should be intersting, I hope they implement propper animations in the one.
also why did the first poster aatach a picture of windows mobile standard 6.1 sliding panels ?
this is the home screen for non touch screen phones. thats not wm7
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also why did the first poster aatach a picture of windows mobile standard 6.1 sliding panels ?
this is the home screen for non touch screen phones. thats not wm7
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because that is the picture from the article.
It's Microsoft's product. You know!
It's been a long time that we consumers or users expect something from them. But they are always delaying the release. Why do they have to release a target date when it's not ready yet? I think they are trying to make us hungry with their product. Right now I am just hoping that Android will be ported to my device. I don't wanna wait for another year(s) for the release of WinMo.
see in first post and know about wm7 a review edited now
The US version of the HD2 is going to arrive in 1-2 months. It will definitely include improvements based on the lessons learned with the older european/asian version.
Are we likely to see improvements on the hardware side ?, like including a frontal camera, dedicated power button at the top of the device, capacitive buttons (like on the originial HD's), etc. ?
Any such improvements could seriously lower the value of the european version currently sold. Pretty bad for those who already own one.
Lol, I started this thread more than 2 months ago, it was so clear to me then... (so now we know it's RAM/ROM capacity... I didn't even wanted to mention such a horrible option back then)
May I be the first to congratulate myself on being the second person to contribute to this thread in 2 months!!!
So are you keeping or selling yours?
I bow to your wisdom Nostradamus...any chance of a hint at what I can expect to get next Christmas when I'm due for an upgrade?
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May I be the first to congratulate myself on being the second person to contribute to this thread in 2 months!!!
So are you keeping or selling yours?
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I'm keeping mine. My first WM7 device is probably going to be HD3, which is going to arrive not long after the US HD2 release.
I think it's obvious why HTC release the US version of the HD2 with 1GB ROM: The HD2 arrives to the US market very late, only at ~May. This means that the US market will not get HD3 (WM7 device) at ~October 2010, like the rest of the world (since it's only 5 months after the HD2 is released in the US, no way HTC will release a newer generation to the US market so soon). Still, HTC wants the US market to enjoy WM7 together with the rest of the world, and for this reason they gave the US version of the HD2 the full capability of supporting WM7 (i.e 1GB ROM, which was the only absent requirment).
So, as I see it, in November 2010, all of the world (except the USA) will have the option to enjoy WM7 with the HD3, while the US will get a WM7 upgrade for their HD2.
The european version of the HD2 will probably not get an official WM7 upgrade, due to the smaller ROM size. This will increase HD3 sales in this market.
(I will bump this thread again at November 2010).
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I think it's obvious why HTC release the US version of the HD2 with 1GB ROM: The HD2 arrives to the US market very late, only at ~May. This means that the US market will not get HD3 (WM7 device) at ~October 2010, like the rest of the world (since it's only 5 months after the HD2 is released in the US, no way HTC will release a newer generation to the US market so soon). Still, HTC wants the US market to enjoy WM7 together with the rest of the world, and for this reason they gave the US version of the HD2 the full capability of supporting WM7 (i.e 1GB ROM, which was the only absent requirment).
So, as I see it, in November 2010, all of the world (except the USA) will have the option to enjoy WM7 with the HD3, while the US will get a WM7 upgrade for their HD2.
The european version of the HD2 will probably not get an official WM7 upgrade, due to the smaller ROM size. This will increase HD3 sales in this market.
(I will bump this thread again at November 2010).
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I had direct confirmation from HTC that we WILL get a WM7 upgrade for the HD2
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I had direct confirmation from HTC that we WILL get a WM7 upgrade for the HD2
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Hope you're right. I think if the US version has 1GB ROM, it will be better suited for WM7, and HTC know it.
Well if WM7 needs anything like 500 meg to 1 gig of rom to run they can keep that bloated pile of crap .. Ill stick with what i have already ..
Android v2.3 Gingerbread Heading To The HTC EVO 4G http://skattertech.com/2011/03/android-v2-3-gingerbread-heading-to-the-htc-evo-4g/
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"The catch? HTC does not intend to push out the update until at least one flagship smart phone sporting Google’s new OS reaches store shelves. This is to ensure that customers do not hold back from purchasing newly announced devices. Once at least one Gingerbread smart phone reaches consumers, HTC will release the upgrade for their older Android models."
So the Evo 3D will be announced this week ... if it follows the EVO schedule it will hit the shelves in June ... meaning EVO won't seen an update until July ... maybe august? Which will be _after_ Icecream gets released.
So it's good news that HTC will give us GB the same time CM gives us Icecream, why exactly?
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"The catch? HTC does not intend to push out the update until at least one flagship smart phone sporting Google’s new OS reaches store shelves. This is to ensure that customers do not hold back from purchasing newly announced devices. Once at least one Gingerbread smart phone reaches consumers, HTC will release the upgrade for their older Android models."
So the Evo 3D will be announced this week ... if it follows the EVO schedule it will hit the shelves in June ... meaning EVO won't seen an update until July ... maybe august? Which will be _after_ Icecream gets released.
So it's good news that HTC will give us GB the same time CM gives us Icecream, why exactly?
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Why you ask. Because people complain that HTC doesn't care about older phones and the reason is because they want us to buy the new phones. So now they will meet us in the middle. They will release the next phone and let people buy the latest and greatest and when the rush is over the people keeping the EVO will get an update. Win for everyone.
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Why you ask. Because people complain that HTC doesn't care about older phones and the reason is because they want us to buy the new phones. So now they will meet us in the middle. They will release the next phone and let people buy the latest and greatest and when the rush is over the people keeping the EVO will get an update. Win for everyone.
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Win for everyone would be if HTC/Sprint continued to tighten this relationship started with Google today and start pushing updates out in a timely manner and not one full rev behind.
Even if i buy a crappy PC from Dell I don't need to wait on them to update my Windows 7 to the latest SP.
This update model has to stop. HTC should be supplying a mono-kernel and that's it. Just the latest core drivers. Everything else I should be getting OTA right from Google and if Sprint wants to throw in an apk or two they can. No I wont pretend this is somehow a win when I have to read weekly announcements of apps being pulled from the market because of exploits that were "fixed in 2.3" while the entire non-hacking community still sits on 2.2. It's borderline irresponsible when you consider the fees being payed.
whoa getting a little heated in here, say what you will but I just cant wait for a new mik rom based on this update!
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If they would just leak it...
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If they would just leak it...
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haha seriously fingers crossed! or maybe the new evo 3D rom!
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Justin.G11 said:
Win for everyone would be if HTC/Sprint continued to tighten this relationship started with Google today and start pushing updates out in a timely manner and not one full rev behind.
Even if i buy a crappy PC from Dell I don't need to wait on them to update my Windows 7 to the latest SP.
This update model has to stop. HTC should be supplying a mono-kernel and that's it. Just the latest core drivers. Everything else I should be getting OTA right from Google and if Sprint wants to throw in an apk or two they can. No I wont pretend this is somehow a win when I have to read weekly announcements of apps being pulled from the market because of exploits that were "fixed in 2.3" while the entire non-hacking community still sits on 2.2. It's borderline irresponsible when you consider the fees being payed.
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Buy a Nexus
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Even if i buy a crappy PC from Dell I don't need to wait on them to update my Windows 7 to the latest SP.
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Nope. But with new versions of the os you very we'll might have to wait on them for drivers.
This doesn't make much sense. The only people who actually care, or even know what the hell gingerbread is, are nerds like us. What average consumer who already owns the HTC Evo is going to purchase a new phone JUST to have gingerbread? And what self-respecting nerd would not just root their phone and run CM7 (or one of the MANY roms with GB) as opposed to buying a whole new phone, JUST for gingerbread? And if HTC didn't want us to have GB before a new flagship device was released with GB, why didn't they lock the bootloader like motorola?
I suspect whoever divulged this information didn't know what they were talking about. And if this information is true, HTC and all the other phone manufacturers need to pull their heads out of their asses and strengthen the ANDROID brand, their own individual phone brands. I honestly don't give a **** if my phone is HTC or moto or samsung, as long as it's open and runs android (hence me owning an HTC right now, the only manufacturer who doesn't seem to mind mods).
At least we know Dell has it working, just have to wait for it to hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8wnaRzok5A&feature=share
efjay said:
At least we know Dell has it working, just have to wait for it to hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8wnaRzok5A&feature=share
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problem is no new dell devices...natively running mango *sad face*
domineus said:
problem is no new dell devices...natively running mango *sad face*
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They would have to come up with something spectacular to make up for their poor reputation with the DVP, probably thought it wasnt worth it. Guess we'll have to make do with what we have.
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They would have to come up with something spectacular to make up for their poor reputation with the DVP, probably thought it wasnt worth it. Guess we'll have to make do with what we have.
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which isn't all too bad
Mango update to DVP is released to production and will hit the new devices this month. Not sure of the existing devices as its carrier dependent. New Dell WP7.5 device is coming end of year or early next year.
Any idea what the new device will be like, design & specs wise?
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Mango update to DVP is released to production and will hit the new devices this month. Not sure of the existing devices as its carrier dependent. New Dell WP7.5 device is coming end of year or early next year.
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This there anything offical that this info came from?
notebookgrail said:
Mango update to DVP is released to production and will hit the new devices this month. Not sure of the existing devices as its carrier dependent. New Dell WP7.5 device is coming end of year or early next year.
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And dell is also manufacturing some Windows Phone device for Huawei IIRC. But why there is a rumor last year dell dismissed mobile department?
roytellect said:
And dell is also manufacturing some Windows Phone device for Huawei IIRC. But why there is a rumor last year dell dismissed mobile department?
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still being reorganized...
@notebookgrail
so they decided because in august they were still considering how to proceed. The rumor was new device next year sometime but they were out of the Mango soire
there is nothing else coming for at least a year or more.. trust me i know. not in the states that is..
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still being reorganized...
@notebookgrail
so they decided because in august they were still considering how to proceed. The rumor was new device next year sometime but they were out of the Mango soire
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More possibility to skip Mango if it goes to next year.
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More possibility to skip Mango if it goes to next year.
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that's what i was thinking the dvp isn't a bad device at all...it's really GOOD
Really and truly, a fully functional DVP will be just like them rekleasing a new device. Now that tehy seem to have gotten all the kinks out they should just release the DVP to retail. At least in the US, it's only available direct from Dell. Remember the excitement when the DVP was still only known by it's codename "Lightning" ? I believe it would be a fast seller, also then maybe the DVP would get better community support for hacks and the like.
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Remember the excitement when the DVP was still only known by it's codename "Lightning" ? I believe it would be a fast seller, also then maybe the DVP would get better community support for hacks and the like.
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Indeed. The names "Thunder" and "Lightning" were much cooler than Venue and Venue Pro.
Possible that having a lower price might also work out better than having the latest hardware, especially as Dell can advertise selling a phone with Mango.
Curious if the DVP will run Windows (Phone) 8. Hopefully, we'll find out this week
Here is a list of the upcoming WP8 devices:
Zenith - HTC (high-end device)
Accord - HTC (mid-range device)
Rio -HTC (low-end)
Sources w/ specs: link & link.
Samsung Ativ S
Samsung Focus S2 - Samsung (high-end)
Samsung Marco
Samsung Odyssey
Source w/ specs: Link, Link.
Nokia Lumia 910
Nokia Lumia 805
Nokia Lumia 820 - Apparently this is the "Arrow".
Nokia Lumia 920 With PureView and wireless charging.
Nokia Lumia 950
Nokia Lumia 1001
Nokia 510
Nokia Belle 805
Nokia Zeal - mid-range
A couple of Lumia devices are codenamed "Arrow" and "Phi" for the time being. Expected to be announced in september 5th.
Source with more information: Link.
Juggernaut Aplha - Man. unkown
Info: Link.
- Release dates will be added when devices are announced (these are still just rumor), if you know of new ones please reply or pm me to update the list.
Bundle information: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47021/windows-phone-8-phones-information
Update 1: Microsoft denies plans for company-branded smartphone. Also revealed that the companies who will be branding WP8 will be HTC, Nokia, Samsung, and Huawei. Source.
Good idea. But please include sources (for the ones you listed above: http://newbestgadget.com/news/htc-zenith-htc-rio-and-htc-accord-specs-and-features) espacially if it's still a rumor (don't whether htc officaly announced the ones you listed)
Probably, the HTC Leo (HD2)
Hope
Samsung Focus S(2)3
HTC HD7
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If the HTC Rio will run WP8, theres the possibility that all existing WP7 smartphones can also run wp8. Almost the same ****ing hardware specs(it only has 1ghz dualcore, but only 512 mb ram)! Is Microsoft ****ing kidding me?!
*srry for my bad language*
freddx said:
If the HTC Rio will run WP8, theres the possibility that all existing WP7 smartphones can also run wp8. Almost the same ****ing hardware specs(it only has 1ghz dualcore, but only 512 mb ram)! Is Microsoft ****ing kidding me?!
*srry for my bad language*
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Calm with your spaz attack, lol.
I'm waiting for the Nokia PureView with Windows Phone 8 on it which is due in Q4.
More Info Please
could you update the post with more info, im interested in the Zenith HTC
I'd be tempted by the Focus S2 if it's basically the Galaxy Note 2 with Windows Phone 8 on it. But a Nokia handset with Pureview and WP8 would be rapturous!
Ill say it again.. I WANT the Dell Wrigley with W8.. the prototype pics looked great and I love my DVP.. I will be happy with 7.8 on my DVP until another Portrait Keyboard style phone shows up.
HTC
rafa8595 said:
could you update the post with more info, im interested in the Zenith HTC
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As of this writing there is no definite HTC model yet. as usual HTC may rename the device during the launch. It could be HTC Zenith or HTC Edge whatever. It would definitely come with Quad-Core processor, Snapdragon by QualComm or the quad-core Tegra 3 by Nvidia. OMG! a 4.7" screen playing 4 video files simultaneously with 1.5 GHz speed in each.
Chipsets and gadgets companies are selling high-end products with just a very little functionality offered at the moment.
MS is definitely releasing own windows phone 8 hardware. I have confirmation from my source, that tells me it will be coming out in the fall, and it is similar size to iphone / Droid Inc.
Will be an offficial update for the HD2? Or nly through custom roms we wil run windows 8
I think that Nokia Belle 805 needs to be off the list, since Belle refers to a version of Symbian.
tukmol said:
OMG! a 4.7" screen playing 4 video files simultaneously with 1.5 GHz speed in each.
Chipsets and gadgets companies are selling high-end products with just a very little functionality offered at the moment.
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Just another spec packed mostrum but this time with wp7. Well, we'll see if a quad is useful. Up to now, I've not yet got the point...
UBNAS81 said:
MS is definitely releasing own windows phone 8 hardware. I have confirmation from my source, that tells me it will be coming out in the fall, and it is similar size to iphone / Droid Inc.
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I'm sure that you can point us to the source
ekvirus said:
Will be an offficial update for the HD2? Or nly through custom roms we wil run windows 8
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There will never be an official update for our beloved hd2. Even WP7 was (is!) inofficial. I'm pretty sure that our hd2 will get at least wp 7.8 and maybe wp 8 (but only when the other first gen receive wp8 custom roms as well)
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underworld666 said:
Probably, the HTC Leo (HD2)
Hope
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Testing your thanks meter now
just making sure your thanks meter works
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this is test
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I have my phone nokia lumia 900 within 2 weeks returned to the store that could still because it was within 2 weeks.
Was very disappointed because he did not get to update WP8.
I could exchange it for a WP8 phone if they are in store
I heard and hope it is true 802.11ac will be on the new Windows 8 phones coming for the November sales season.