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While not wanting to reveal their source for this piece of information, msmobiles.com has gone on the record as saying that HTC will put out an OFFICIAL upgrade of Windows Mobile 7 for the HTC HD2 as soon as Microsoft makes it available.
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http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-hd2-will-officially-be-upgradeable-to-windows-mobile-7.html
I think it's worth reading some of the comments made against the "source" of that claim:
http://msmobiles.com/f/viewtopic.php?t=24691
Unless HTC go out of their minds they surely won't release a WM7 update for HD2 in Q4 2010, as by that time they will have a new flagship device ready for the holiday season.
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Unless HTC go out of their minds they surely won't release a WM7 update for HD2 in Q4 2010, as by that time they will have a new flagship device ready for the holiday season.
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I think HTC is faced with the same issue they faced with the launch of the Diamond 2 and Touch pro 2 months prior to the official launch of WM6.5. The HD2 is due to be released in the US and other territories in Q1 2010 at the same time WM7 is due to be officially announced. Faced with the same circumstances they faced with WM6.5 I expect them to act in the same way and provide a update to WM7 as otherwise sales in the markets it is due to be released in in 2010 Q1 would be likely to be severly limited. Any other course does not make much sense.
WM7 is going to be announced in Q1, but judging by the information that's been out so far it's still due to be released no earlier than Q3/Q4 2010.
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WM7 is going to be announced in Q1, but judging by the information that's been out so far it's still due to be released no earlier than Q3/Q4 2010.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here, though the official announcement was necessarily earlier. HTC has announced a future policy of releasing less models and going for more volume, so not offering a WM7 update to US Q1 purchasers would surely severly restrict potential HD2 sale volumes.
It probably makes little difference to us here I guess, as I suspect like me many early adopters would probably be ready for a new phone come this time next year in any event.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here
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May through October is 5 months. October through October is 12 months. Don't know about you, but I see one hell of a lot of difference. Also, Diamond 2 and TP2 got their upgrades at a time when they are still the top-of-the-line HTC smaller form factor and QWERTY models (i.e. the upgrade gave them a boost in the middle of their lifecycle). By the time WM7 will come out it will be time for HTC to launch a successor to HD2, so the latter will have to go out of the way. That's another huge difference in my opinion.
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not offering a WM7 update to US Q1 purchasers would surely severly restrict potential HD2 sale volumes.
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I think you overestimate general consumer awareness about what WM versions exist and what the difference is. Android may be well-known because of the media hysteria, but if MS are going to advertise WM7 they have already shown that they now smartly refer to their stuff as "Windows Phone", and that will be the name by which most people will likely know phones like HD2 or HD3.
I burped so hard while I read this.
I'm not worried about a new flagship device. By the time HTC arrives with it the issues of the HD2 will be solved and be used to your hearts content. Don't forget there is a 1 GHZ processor in the HD2. The good news, and not unexpectedly, HD2 will probably be upgradable to windows mobile 7 is the logical step. The current windows mobile 6.5 has developed itself and feels like the windows vista equivalent. I think it would only be logical to argument, just like windows 7 to consider windows mobile 7 an "update" to windows mobile 6.5 rather than an "upgrade". I think it would do the HD2 justice. One can just feel that the HD2 can do more than what the current OS is portraying. It would be like extending the life of the HD2.
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I'm not worried about a new flagship device. By the time HTC arrives with it the issues of the HD2 will be solved and be used to your hearts content. Don't forget there is a 1 GHZ processor in the HD2. The good news, and not unexpectedly, HD2 will probably be upgradable to windows mobile 7 is the logical step. The current windows mobile 6.5 has developed itself and feels like the windows vista equivalent. I think it would only be logical to argument, just like windows 7 to consider windows mobile 7 an "update" to windows mobile 6.5 rather than an "upgrade". I think it would do the HD2 justice. One can just feel that the HD2 can do more than what the current OS is portraying. It would be like extending the life of the HD2.
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Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
karan999 said:
Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
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Microsoft? Android?
WM 7 on HD2
I predict that long before WM 7 is officially released, we will see it on our HD2's.
I don't need to be Nostradamus to know that.
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Its rather better if Microsoft gives an Android update too for the HD2.
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Surely you mean if HTC give an Android update for the HD2. And even then, it wouldn't be an update...Never going to happen mate.
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Microsoft? Android?
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I predict that long before WM 7 is officially released, we will see it on our HD2's.
I don't need to be Nostradamus to know that.
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I'm agree!
I think that they probably mean an update to WM 6.5.1.
When WM7 will be released our beloved HD2 is an old piece of hardware
No win 7 for hd2....
Read http://www.htcphones.net/htc-hd2-will-not-get-wm7-update/
Great! p1ss on my chips why don't you...
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Diamond 2 and TR2 were announced in May 2008 and WM6.5 appeared in October so I see little diffence here
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The big difference is that W7 is a new OS, while 6.5 was just an update. I don't think WM7 will be officially available for the HD2. In autumn 2010 when WM7 will ship, the HD2 will be outdated anyway, and HTC will do everything to shift customers to their new products that ship with WM7. It will be a major sales argument to go for a new phone next year. HTC would be commercially stupid to offer WM7 free of charge for their "old" phones.
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Read http://www.htcphones.net/htc-hd2-will-not-get-wm7-update/
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Another self-appointed HTC spokesman. Why don't they simply say "we believe that ...." or "we speculate that ....". Otherwise. completely meaningless.
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Another self-appointed HTC spokesman. Why don't they simply say "we believe that ...." or "we speculate that ....". Otherwise. completely meaningless.
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^^^^
+1.
http://pocketnow.com/rumor/htc-confirms-that-hd2-gets-windows-mobile-7-on-twitter
Latest from [email protected]:
'We’re continuing to work with O2 to deliver the update, and expect this to start in mid-December #dellstreak'
Seriously!!!.what the hell!!...
@dell: Thanks but no thanks!!!
@djsteve: Thanks a lot!!..he he...maybe ill strt my preparation!!
Well the update has been released for unlocked phones, so I don't fault Dell for this. I place the blame on [email protected] least Dell was nice & smart enough to give you guys a status on the update.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..
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Well the update has been released for unlocked phones, so I don't fault Dell for this. I place the blame on [email protected] least Dell was nice & smart enough to give you guys a status on the update.
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I Blame Dell, I wonder how many have got the offical update notification ??
Very few would be my guess, I'm a UK unlocked Streak owner & still no update for me.
I have asked Stephen twice via twitter about it but he doesn't bother to respond
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whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..
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Don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out.
lol...i wasnt talking abt getting rid of the streak!!...and probably am as 'eccentric a tabletphone user' as you are..
i was talking abt waiting for dell/o2 to give me wat I want..
but as it turns out...i am staying well inside the room and waiting for the official thing to come out...whenever it does..
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whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..
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Indeed, I feel your pain. I mean what a terrible tragedy, having to wait almost a full month before a slightly updated operating system for your mobile phone becomes available. Nobody should have to bear such a tragic burden in their life. Have you asked whether the European Commission on Human Rights will take your case up?
On the other hand, you could just go to Argos and buy one - they are advertising that their Streaks come with 2.2.
@philip...ha ha I am sure you are being sarcastic there...
no thanks but Ill stick to my current o2 locked streak...cause currenly having 2.1 instead of 2.2 doesnt really make a big difference to my existance on earth...
it's just the 'customer unawareness' of dell/o2 which bothers me...nuthin else..
Dell, carriers?
If Dell "officially" releases the update, then the carriers pack their crap onto the update, does Dell have to check it for compatibility before the carriers sign off on it? Or do the carriers send their crap to Dell, dell packages it into their OS, then tests it, and then the carriers sign off on it?
God knows I wouldn't defend the manufacturer or the carrier, but does anyone know the procedure?
THIS is a glaring example of why carriers need to get the $*#&% out of the hardware/software side of the wireless phone business, and become pipes.
(In the USA) it use to be, you provide the phone, we provide the dial tone.
Now, I'm not naive enough to know why the carriers want to stay in the hardware
side of the business, but, as phones, software evolve, they need to seriously consider changing (in the USA) their business model.
At least DELL UK sell accessories for the streak........we have nothing in Australia
Not even a charger!!!
f**k the dell and o2 upgrading to 2.2 with dj steve had enough with their sh*t
we the first person to buy these f*cking device in uk and we are getting at last seriously love the device but dell a complete dirt company to deal with
To be fair, 02 added very little bloat to the Streak. Either 1.6 or 2.2. I personally would rather wait a couple of weeks for them to sort out the bugs in the thus far released 2.2 builds before it hits O2.
I'm currently using 2.1 with a mildly tweaked build.prop & ADW Launcher and other than the lack of flash it isn't lacking much.
Maybe I'm just more chilled as I'm getting older but I don't really see that the sky is falling down just because I have to wait a few days more for a phone firmware update.
Dell are fixing some of the bugs (hopefully more than some) in the initial 00 released roms..
you wouldn't want them to send the o2 ones out with something that stopped you watching iplayer would you?
Same here stateside...would rather wait until it is RIGHT...before updating.
When I was younger, as soon as a point release would come out, I'd jump on it.
Not so much anymore. I want stable.
I use to go bleeding edge on hardware for the PC, tweaking and tweaking to get the performance, and then living with unstable systems.
Last pc I built replaced one that I built and was stable for over six years, running 24/7. The one I built, should be as stable for another six.
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To be fair, 02 added very little bloat to the Streak. Either 1.6 or 2.2. I personally would rather wait a couple of weeks for them to sort out the bugs in the thus far released 2.2 builds before it hits O2.
Maybe I'm just more chilled as I'm getting older but I don't really see that the sky is falling down just because I have to wait a few days more for a phone firmware update.
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Official update
Hi everybody,
There is a link that gives you all the countries who are able to download the official update; go check on streaksmart and you will see a link for unlocked models; So I did and I am on froyo with my unlocked streak; I would say just one thing don't hesitate, it is official but happens manually...
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/11/...ntly-upgrade-to-official-android-22.html#more
The 'official' update was withdrawn until some bug fixes are done, anything you download just now will be unofficial and buggy.
It is the official update
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The 'official' update was withdrawn until some bug fixes are done, anything you download just now will be unofficial and buggy.
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You know,before saying it isn't official, go check the page by yourself; its the official page; I am not the only one who has download it and still I have no issues at all..so stop saying it is not OFFICIAL and go check by yourself
"I am not the only one who has download it"
thats it! the official update ist ota!
chris
Please, go check and read this page, you will be abble to download it on your streak,...
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/11/...ntly-upgrade-to-official-android-22.html#more
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At least DELL UK sell accessories for the streak........we have nothing in Australia
Not even a charger!!!
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which power plug do you use there?
So does anyone think this means we will see gingerbread on the streak?
http://m.androidcentral.com/att-bringing-gingerbread-every-postpaid-android-phone-released-year
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No.
Customers who purchased an Android smartphone from AT&T introduced in 2011
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The Streak was introduced in 2010 and was never on sale direct from AT&T.
wish
I guess we can only wish...
cingulartreo said:
So does anyone think this means we will see gingerbread on the streak?
http://m.androidcentral.com/att-bringing-gingerbread-every-postpaid-android-phone-released-year
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Reading comprehension is not a strong suit for many people, I understand that
Of course Gingerbread will come to Dell Streak 5.
You only need to be patient people!
Patience is a virtue. All good things will come to those who wait.
Someone will make it for the Dell Streak 5, whether it be days, weeks or months, it will happen.
Yeah, hopefully. A lot of Android phones have been / will be getting Gingerbread updates. Even the old Xperia X10, which came out in November 2009, just got a 2.3 update.
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Of course Gingerbread will come to Dell Streak 5.
You only need to be patient people!
Patience is a virtue. All good things will come to those who wait.
Someone will make it for the Dell Streak 5, whether it be days, weeks or months, it will happen.
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I am sorry but you are wrong. Dell is NOT putting out any more updates, including ROMS for the Dell Streak. You will not see Gingerbread.
My screenshot convo. Ask for yourself @stephenjatdell
Dell just put an update for softbank streaks yesterday. After that I'd expect another round of minor updates for various carriers.
At the risk of sounding like an idiot, what's a "softbank" Streak (I can't seem to locate a definition here)... Thanks
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Dell just put an update for softbank streaks yesterday. After that I'd expect another round of minor updates for various carriers.
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But was it just a minor update to Froyo 2.2.2?
Maybe Dell is just buying their time perfecting a totally new UI for Android 3.2 (like they did over top of 1.6 Doughnut)!
Seriously though... why did they spend so many resources putting lipstick on 1.6 (which was very cool / revolutionary / different) Such as the app drawer in the notification bar, power widget dropdown, etc.
I do like that the 2.2.2 releases of Froyo are AOSP enough that the UOT works without issue!
BTW: Softbank is a carrier (Japan?)
It was a minor update, but what it does say is that the team hasnt stopped working on the streak, they merely havnt been releasing any builds for whatever reasons. The update was built on june 30th and that was only a month ago. OTAs usually take about a month from building -> testing -> OTA
Whatever reason they are taking so long, if/when GB comes out it should be even closer to stock android then 2.2 just like 2.2 if you ignore stage ui.
Softbank is a cell carrier in japan, they sell locked US model streaks and were the first to semi-officially recieve 2.2. 301 was a softbank rom, but it wasnt officially released.
Not Exactly...
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I am sorry but you are wrong. Dell is NOT putting out any more updates, including ROMS for the Dell Streak. You will not see Gingerbread.
My screenshot convo. Ask for yourself @stephenjatdell
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Except the captivate is getting gingerbread.
So, that means it is up to Dell to fight the giant at&t and get them to approve an update. To me this stance, among other things, communicates that Dell is halfheartedly interested in mobility. I mean, they brought in a mobility guy then canned him and shut down his division at the end of last year. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703688704575621101353557126.html Dell either doesn't want to work very hard or they are exiting because they don't think they can compete.
Contrast that with Sony Ericsson, and Samsung updating their 2010 models. (Ok, so SE isn't updating their at&t version, but this is XDA so we know that doesn't stop ambitious modders.) Those companies are showing commitment to the customers who signed TWO YEAR contracts and are stuck with LAST YEARS (2010) devices on Froyo for another year. These guys are differentiating in the place we wish every company did... Their customer service. Bravo!
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It was a minor update, but what it does say is that the team hasnt stopped working on the streak, they merely havnt been releasing any builds for whatever reasons. The update was built on june 30th and that was only a month ago. OTAs usually take about a month from building -> testing -> OTA
Whatever reason they are taking so long, if/when GB comes out it should be even closer to stock android then 2.2 just like 2.2 if you ignore stage ui.
Softbank is a cell carrier in japan, they sell locked US model streaks and were the first to semi-officially recieve 2.2. 301 was a softbank rom, but it wasnt officially released.
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So, is it worth flashing this rom?
Thanks Nick and TheManii for the info regarding Softbank...... Strangely, Softbank's website shows their cellular network as being W-CMDA.... so there must be a non-SIM version of the Streak.... either that or my Dolphin browser "translate" add-on doesn't translate Japanese too well LOL Thanks again all !!
They are probably focusing on the 10.1inch tablet coming out very soon. From what I gather it wont be a consumer device and probably not a streak.... but then again who knows they just released new stage software to sync and be a remote.
According to fards who speaks to ttmhe devs in irc he is convinced gb is coming offically.
How can it not with the streak 7 being so new.
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Thanks Nick and TheManii for the info regarding Softbank...... Strangely, Softbank's website shows their cellular network as being W-CMDA.... so there must be a non-SIM version of the Streak.... either that or my Dolphin browser "translate" add-on doesn't translate Japanese too well LOL Thanks again all !!
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WCDMA and UMTS are more or less synonymous (at least from a user standpoint, they might not be the exact same thing from a techical standpoint) with GSM 3G.
WCDMA is the 3g family (i think)
UMTS is the first 3g standard
HSPA is a faster revision (though revision isnt the best word to use)
HSPA+ is '3.5g' by the old definition and '4g' according to current american carriers.
WCMDA and CDMA are similar in how they transmit over the air, but completely different in application. WCDMA is a specific GSM technology, CDMA is the superfamily for CDMA devices.
To muddy the waters even more there are a couple of CDMA carriers in japan, but softbank is not one of them
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Until someone provides me with a clean nandroid of ANY softbank rom this update is useless as it's a patch on TOP of previous softbank roms and not a complete pkg like normal streak pkgs
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According to fards who speaks to ttmhe devs in irc he is convinced gb is coming offically.
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I'm afraid hope is abandoning more people than myself. I mean, if Dell
finally gets GB to our Streaks, will it be before Ice Cream shows up?
Will Dell Streak customers really still be interested in a phone with
an OS that is one generation older than the present one?
I'm sure I won't...
Thanks for the clarification, Manll...... Also I do see the point in having the latest OS, but I also realize that a manufacturer will not provide upgrade paths for an aging product forever. At least with Froyo, I think we're at least on a sustainable platform that will remain relevent for some time to come... I just wish we had native video calling like Honeycomb. None of the 3rd party apps seem to work unless the recipient also has the same video call client installed.... and that's just not a realistic option for most...... Oh well, we can't have everything I suppose
so looks like we stuck to buy streak!!!! now i realize it was really bad choice to buy streak! wish i bought galaxy!!!!
"Fards" is alarmingly quiet these days. It would be very interesting to
hear if there are any news on the subject, from someone "inside".
http://wmpoweruser.com/dell-venue-pro-mango-september-20/
Good news Dell Venue Pro users! Mango is coming officially on the Dell Venue Pro.
Dell has insisted, much like other Microsoft OEMs, that the Mango OS will be pushed out to current devices on September 20. Usually, Dell has a pretty good track record of releasing updates on Tuesdays (Nodo, firmware, Microsoft Security update). Combined with the other musings about Windows Phone Mango updates coming in mid September , the rumored release date gains some face validity. But to be safe, put the release date in the rumor folder because delays do happen
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i wonder if there will be anything different from the RTM? better auto settings for the camera i hope
Do you have to revert back to nodo or can you update from mango beta 2
I guess there will be new version of EM, as new version of firmware will be on the 7720.68 update.
See the picture from the link below:
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/475/412/html/42.jpg.html
Then we may have to figure out the registry and those dlls again.......
According to the Japanese media, typing in other languages, other than those 5, on the keypad should be supported.
Good news Dell Venue Pro users! Mango is coming officially on the Dell Venue Pro.
Dell has insisted, much like other Microsoft OEMs, that the Mango OS will be pushed out to current devices on September 20. Usually, Dell has a pretty good track record of releasing updates on Tuesdays (Nodo, firmware, Microsoft Security update). Combined with the other musings about Windows Phone Mango updates coming in mid September , the rumored release date gains some face validity. But to be safe, put the release date in the rumor folder because delays do happen
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I don't really get this article. In typical headline-grabbing style WMPU position this article it as fact, without providing any offical source or quote, but then go on to caveat it up to the hilt to cover their back. And typically this has been re-quoted all over the web without so much as a question. Yet up to this point many were saying that existing DVPs wouldn't get an official update. Where is the evidence that Dell have insisted this is true or official? Is it something the rep said in the video?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260411
that post makes it pretty clear that dell is going to do an update.
phone from dell with mango and new firmware.
True, but that's a "brand new" phone. But still doesn't answer why WMPU (and everyone else who jumped on their bandwagon) are treating it as indisputable fact when, as far as I can see, in typical blog style, they've not backed it up with any source or quote.
Still, I guess we've not long to wait and find out!
Probably because the author knows people at Dell:
http://en.community.dell.com/dell-b...-pro-firmware-revision-coming-next-month.aspx
I'd guess Dell probably aren't allowed to announce a date until Microsoft officially launches Mango. There is a huge Microsoft conference happening at the moment (http://www.buildwindows.com/). Would be very surprised if Mango was not 'launched' officially during the conference.
20th September is the first Tuesday after the conference ends, so it's a plausible date.
Ah, that explains it then. Apologies all round for being such a sceptic!
Thanks - although I have no idea if the author has heard a whisper from Dell or is just taking an educated guess.
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Thanks - although I have no idea if the author has heard a whisper from Dell or is just taking an educated guess.
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yes it was rumored from a mutual contact that the dvp update would be next week. But I also know that whenever dates are given with dell, well...there are delays...(last f/w update for instance was delayed by a week as was the security update, and for that matter nodo was delayed so so many times).
I suggested to readers that delays do happen, like with any software/firmware update due to carrier testing or microsoft. With the previous f/w update, dell had the intent of releasing it the same week as reported, but in this case Microsoft waited to do a dual update (hd7 and venue pro updating) which is at their discretion.
Whether or not Microsoft will do that again is anyone's guess. That's why I recommended that
1. It is a rumored release date (but the contact is extremely reliable with his info given)
2. delays happen
Nothing major if it does happen. This is dell afterall...they have a record with delays...it wasn't super sensational to suggest that...
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column A and column B
yes it was rumored from a mutual contact that the dvp update would be next week. But I also know that whenever dates are given with dell, well...there are delays...(last f/w update for instance was delayed by a week as was the security update, and for that matter nodo was delayed so so many times).
I suggested to readers that delays do happen, like with any software/firmware update due to carrier testing or microsoft. With the previous f/w update, dell had the intent of releasing it the same week as reported, but in this case Microsoft waited to do a dual update (hd7 and venue pro updating) which is at their discretion.
Whether or not Microsoft will do that again is anyone's guess. That's why I recommended that
1. It is a rumored release date (but the contact is extremely reliable with his info given)
2. delays happen
Nothing major if it does happen. This is dell afterall...they have a record with delays...it wasn't super sensational to suggest that...
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I would 'suggest' the only sure date for the mango release is whenyou see 'update complete' on your device. Until then, blah blah blah.
The circumstances for the release of mango is different than with Seven and NoDo.
With seven, it was all about timing. Small market release upfront, followed by reaction plan and response.
Nodo was an updat, nothing more.
Mango is a new device focused release. Its step 2 in the MS mobile plan.It released to Operators several weeks ago. What was released back in july is what youll see next week. Anything new since the RTM will be this years nodo. Historically, new OS's have rarely updated near launch date, the focus instead on the new device release. If MS/Dell have said the 20th, then hoorah for them. But i do not recall seeing anything official from them....excluding that twitter guy.
From someone who has the mango rtm already, but no longer uses the vp as my primary device, i can say i will not move back to the device as my primary device. Its slow and bulky compared to many of the android devices. I do however hold great hope for windows phone and will buy a new device when i see 4g, dual core, and wifi integrated calling. I believe windows phone is better than android. It just doesnt have all the cookies yet.
With the number of contacts i have at ms, i 'suspect' the release will be within the next 2weeks. But i said that back in June, and nothing has changed.
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I would 'suggest' the only sure date for the mango release is when you see 'update complete' on your device. Until then, blah blah blah.
If MS/Dell have said the 20th, then hoorah for them.
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But i do not recall seeing anything official from them....excluding that twitter guy.
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With the number of contacts i have at ms, i 'suspect' the release will be within the next 2weeks. But i said that back in June, and nothing has changed.
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That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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i can vouch for the information. The person gave me a unit to personally test and write about. I'm pretty sure that's enough to vouch for their reputation.
But realistically, mobile sites are dicy on rumor mill, but that doesn't stop reporting at all. And sadly on more than one occasion, several sites haven't fact checked a rumor before it ran out of commotion (anyone remember the initial HD3 specs fiasco?)
I can understand your skepticism, but that's also why I indicated that delays happen and things get pushed back. Realistically anytime there is a date given by any dev, oem, or company, it always never EVER delivers on that promised date.
But it is news that many want to know about. And the source is extremely RELIABLE and about as official it is going to get regarding dell's restructuring of their mobile division.
You don't have to trust the date, in fact I suggest not to do so. But given the indication that mango is coming in that timeframe (middle of september) clarifies the position that the rumored release date gains more credibility. Also, since TMO gets a bevy of updates on Tuesday for windows phone camp (nodo, security, firmware), Tuesday at least is a relatively big day for tmo as far as pushing out updates are concerned.
That was the point of the article. Seriously no need to overanalyze it, it will make you old and gray =P
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That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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Agreeing with dom on this. Youll get old and gray reading digital papparrazzi. Know that the first time dell saw mango was NOT at the rtm date. They've had the bits for several months. They were test partners along with the other OEMs for several months. Fijal bits have been in their hands for 6-8 weeks and they have been privvy to prelim builds for several weeks before that. Test modes and package delivery have been their focus for several weeks now since changes to the packages must go through ms, not dell. Dell cannot add anything post handoff.
There is no question the release is soon. My only question is where it will fall in relationship to the new device release. If its before the release, then soon is soon. If its after, then soon could bè fall...and that lsts until december
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Agreeing with dom on this. Youll get old and gray reading digital papparrazzi. Know that the first time dell saw mango was NOT at the rtm date. They've had the bits for several months. They were test partners along with the other OEMs for several months. Fijal bits have been in their hands for 6-8 weeks and they have been privvy to prelim builds for several weeks before that. Test modes and package delivery have been their focus for several weeks now since changes to the packages must go through ms, not dell. Dell cannot add anything post handoff.
There is no question the release is soon. My only question is where it will fall in relationship to the new device release. If its before the release, then soon is soon. If its after, then soon could bè fall...and that lsts until december
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I wouldn't expect a new dell wp7 device any time soon =(
Hey Dom and everyone,
I just thought that I would chime in a little with this one. The rumored date of September 20 was the latest officially announced date given to OEMs (Dell in this case) from Microsoft at the time this article was written. Joe Belfiore of Microsoft has obviously gone on record as saying that Mango will now officially happen in the fall, meaning on or after September 23. Dell has finished their part of Mango and Microsoft is again stuck holding the ball in their court. Let's just hope history repeats itself on this one. Announced date + 1 week = Actual Date???? I will keep my ears pressed to the walls for this one and update if I hear anything new.
The "other" part of this rumor came true, please look at this thread title (Just received a replacement DVP and it's got Mango on it!!)
Dell was ready to ship some of their devices 1 week after the article was written. They ship device overnight and the thread was created on September 13.
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Hey Dom and everyone,
I just thought that I would chime in a little with this one. The rumored date of September 20 was the latest officially announced date given to OEMs (Dell in this case) from Microsoft at the time this article was written. Joe Belfiore of Microsoft has obviously gone on record as saying that Mango will now officially happen in the fall, meaning on or after September 23. Dell has finished their part of Mango and Microsoft is again stuck holding the ball in their court. Let's just hope history repeats itself on this one. Announced date + 1 week = Actual Date???? I will keep my ears pressed to the walls for this one and update if I hear anything new.
The "other" part of this rumor came true, please look at this thread title (Just received a replacement DVP and it's got Mango on it!!)
Dell was ready to ship some of their devices 1 week after the article was written. They ship device overnight and the thread was created on September 13.
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same thing happened with the tmo update microsoft delayed it for a week for no earthly reason
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same thing happened with the tmo update microsoft delayed it for a week for no earthly reason
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for no earthly reason that you know of....
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I wouldn't expect a new dell wp7 device any time soon =(
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I didn't mean a new VP, I meant new mango devices in general......rarely are new OS's first distributed as an upgrade to existing devices. Usually new devices get it first...
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for no earthly reason that you know of....
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I didn't mean a new VP, I meant new mango devices in general......rarely are new OS's first distributed as an upgrade to existing devices. Usually new devices get it first...
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In the US at least only at&t has announced new hardware and they have committed to a fast update rollout so it would seem there shouldnt really be a delay due to new hardware.
its the 20th! cant wait if this is true!
Hello @ all,
the launch of 4.0 is near and many custom-roms based partially of a nexus device.
i wait hopeful for the first steps
a rumour that i see in the internet, that DELL want to be publish a 4.0-based rom for the streak, i can´t believe that.
see you
J. L.
Hi Jürsche,
i think there is no doupt dell will not bring out any updates to our devices. don't even waste time on thinking about it. when wishing for a ics-rom the best thing you can do is make one yourself - if you can, actually. The few devs working on streak5 here are doing the best they can providing a working gingerbread to overcome the end of development by dell. So far they are doing an excellent job (which i recommend supporting by a small donation!), but it might happen that we'll never see an ics on the streak5 if nobody builds one (which is most probably not so easy)
gostl
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Hi Jürsche,
i think there is no doupt dell will not bring out any updates to our devices. don't even waste time on thinking about it. when wishing for a ics-rom the best thing you can do is make one yourself - if you can, actually. The few devs working on streak5 here are doing the best they can providing a working gingerbread to overcome the end of development by dell. So far they are doing an excellent job (which i recommend supporting by a small donation!), but it might happen that we'll never see an ics on the streak5 if nobody builds one (which is most probably not so easy)
gostl
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Strongly agree with u. Dell just left us in middle of the road but in "EOL" site they wrote it was nice journey. Maybe its from thr business side opinion not from user side.
I actually can't agree with Gostl's assessment simply because the Streak is still available, just not in the United States. The Streak is a new device for some Asian countries so it stands to reason that there will at some point be a Gingerbread release. Ice Cream Sandwich? I don't believe so, but it would be nice to be wrong.
I believe GingerStreak is a dell pre beta release. It will be realeased officially in an Asian country.
Sent from the SuperStreak! ;-)
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I believe GingerStreak is a dell pre beta release. It will be realeased officially in an Asian country.
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Lets hope for the best. But I'd be surprised if they did another leap ahead...
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Lets hope for the best. But I'd be surprised if they did another leap ahead...
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exactly!!!! but hope for the best!
borijess said:
I believe GingerStreak is a dell pre beta release. It will be realeased officially in an Asian country.
Sent from the SuperStreak! ;-)
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GUYZ DONT BE IN THOUGHT THAT DELLS GONNA RELEASE UPDATES ANYWHERE IN WORLD
JUST TALKED TO AMYATDELL AND DELL CARES ON TWITTER AND DELL CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE PHONICALLY. ALL I GOT ID THERE WILL BE NO MORE UPDATES FOR DELL STREAK nywhere in the World
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
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Strongly agree with u. Dell just left us in middle of the road but in "EOL" site they wrote it was nice journey. Maybe its from thr business side opinion not from user side.
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Its for user side
Guyz don't waste time by waiting for updates officially
Dell simply said LOUD AND CLEAR that dear customers **** YOU
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
Firstly please dont YELL IN ALL CAPS,
secondly that's blatently false, dell is STILL releasing the S5 into new markets, it'd be shinanigans to think that they would release into a market and not supply any support for it at all for a new product there.
Dell stopped selling it in the original launch countries, but it still provides support for them there.
Yes it is HIGHLY unlikely for them to release an official ICS, but regardless of support, for a device this old you wouldnt realistically expect ICS for any product it's age.
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(cut) for a device this old you wouldnt realistically expect ICS for any product it's age.
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except for the 2, uhm, nexi? nexuses?
Those are the exceptions since google directly makes the roms for them, how many other devices launched with them do you expect to keep being supported?
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Firstly please dont YELL IN ALL CAPS,
secondly that's blatently false, dell is STILL releasing the S5 into new markets, it'd be shinanigans to think that they would release into a market and not supply any support for it at all for a new product there.
Dell stopped selling it in the original launch countries, but it still provides support for them there.
Yes it is HIGHLY unlikely for them to release an official ICS, but regardless of support, for a device this old you wouldnt realistically expect ICS for any product it's age.
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yes, its been sell in new markets and also its still sold in already markets (like India) its been sell like hell here. Most of owners like watching other ppl mouth open after seeing a phone so so cool (& big for ppl with small phone's )
but i said (in last posts) what i heard The way i heard
Who cares if it's OTA? A custom Rom would still be aweesomeeee!!!
ICS is gorgeous.
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Those are the exceptions since google directly makes the roms for them, how many other devices launched with them do you expect to keep being supported?
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oh don't get me wrong mate I completely agree with you! i think that zero is the answer, but tb completely h i guess the streak might have the horsepower required to run the sandwich (albeit with a slightly underpowered gpu). as a matter of fact I just replied to topic because I thought "nexi" was a funny word and I just HAD to share my findings.
For any device with a 1st gen snapdragon or newer or equivilent, ICS will actually make them faster.
GB -> HC -> ICS each include more and more HW acceleration, so anything with an actual GPU would gain from it, at least in theory. Actual outcome depends on the quality of the port/drivers
U can make your own ICS Port.
Here is a tut :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312595
Don't ask me how, I have no understanding of whats in this thread
ICS Port
Hy @ all,
i sent maxicet a pm about this tutorial.
maybe a chance ...
J.L.
Hi,
hope it will come for our beloved Streak, but i wonder that can it be flashed with current streak config. , the ICS need more powerful hardware requirement
Best Regards
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Hi,
hope it will come for our beloved Streak, but i wonder that can it be flashed with current streak config. , the ICS need more powerful hardware requirement
Best Regards
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as a matter of fact it will be running on the nexus s which does not differ that much from the streak specs wise. So i guess the streak can handle it..