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Galaxy S future proof?

Hey Guys,
Sorry for that dump thread, but i need some technical opionions to the GS.
I bought that mobile because its for me ideal in size, features and so on.
My "last" mobile was an iphone 3G and i was very happy with that stuff. But now i have the GS and its amazing. So in the last days i checked the xda and MoDaCo forum and found the threads about the point that the samsung drivers are encrypted and the partions are different to other smartphones, so if samsung decide to reject an update to Android 2.2 or 3.0 we never receive that update from the community. On the HTC phones it is easier for the community to hack an version and bring them to other devices but it seems for the GS it is impossible. For me it is importend to use a mobile that i can update & use it in 2 or 3 years.
So take the samsung or send it back and wait for example a bigger htc oder a 3g droid x?
regards
Timo

Let's just say, SGS currently offers nearly everything at the top of the market.
BUT, it would NOT be future proof. Technology advances regardless of any economical drawbacks, there WILL be better phones out there in the future.
Screen - debatable with iPhone4's screen
This really is a territory where personal preference will determine which the better screen will be, the differences are that minuscule.
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iPhone4 Retina Display vs. Galaxy S Super Amoled
CPU/GPU - YES YES YES. THREE times the speed of today's smartphone.
Coolermaster
Hummingbird vs. Snapdragon: The 1 GHz Smartphone Showdown
OS - Debatable so i wouldn't want to get into this. (but might i add this? the community behind android, let alone other OS, has an advantage of being futuristic-proof because of the regular tweets and mods)
Camera - 5mp, pretty darn low comparatively to other smartphones but it's adequate/satisfying after seeing the vids/pics
For me, I would certainly pick SGS. This is a bad place to ask for our opinon, it's a SGS dedicated section! (Trust me, you won't regret it. The screen is the dealbreaker)
Anything else you're wondering?
And no, i don't own the phone YET.
I'll be purchasing as soon as ATT's Captivate releases.

I have the same question he has, myself...
I 100% agree it's the best right now. But Android grows fast. We'll have dual core devices THIS YEAR (granted I think they'll suck battery like a cow but we'll see how it goes)... So obviously, it won't be relevant forever.
However my main issue is like with 3.0... Will we be able to upgrade or not?

Samsung is also what's keeping me from buying a Galaxy S.
I love the freedom of the HTC (specially the Nexus One), and being locked to Samsung with their terrible support is a dreadful sight to me.
I really don't know what to do, since I believe the Galaxy S has the best hardware nowadays but its software is just... unreliable

Yceman said:
Samsung is also what's keeping me from buying a Galaxy S.
I love the freedom of the HTC (specially the Nexus One), and being locked to Samsung with their terrible support is a dreadful sight to me.
I really don't know what to do, since I believe the Galaxy S has the best hardware nowadays but its software is just... unreliable
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in what way exactly are you 'locked'?
the phone is rooted, and i expect a custom rom with froyo soon...

TexUs said:
I have the same question he has, myself...
I 100% agree it's the best right now. But Android grows fast. We'll have dual core devices THIS YEAR (granted I think they'll suck battery like a cow but we'll see how it goes)... So obviously, it won't be relevant forever.
However my main issue is like with 3.0... Will we be able to upgrade or not?
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As BasieP was saying that we'll have a custom froyo, it'll happen for 3.0 (GingerBread) too. SGS will be one of the largest community due to its alluring specs. (my prediction, finger crossed - but seriously, just look at the specs)
Well that's if Samsung would not be able to provide an official build. (With the current number of developers in the community, any kind of modding is really possible)
You shouldn't worry about the support from Samsung. If you don't have Samsung, you have us. Remember now, Android is a community based 'software' (need a better word!). Annnnd best of all, our tweaks are far superior than 'official' builds.

Don't get your hopes up yet. It's not sure wether there will be a problem with the drivers or not

BasieP said:
in what way exactly are you 'locked'?
the phone is rooted, and i expect a custom rom with froyo soon...
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Well, reading the Modaco custom rom topic (I can't post the link because I'm a new user) I'm led to believe that so far nobody can make a custom rom if Samsung doesn't release the regular rom first. So, no custom Froyo until Samsung release its own Froyo update. The same for Gingerbread.
See what the poster says:
"MoDaCo Custom ROMs are based on official ROMs - either shipping or leaked. A MCR release is designed to feel as far as possible like a stock ROM, with optimisations, tweaks and complimentary additions that enhance the user experience. The aim of a MCR is to be ultra reliable for use on an everyday device."
Later on someone else says:
"No I said it would be near impossible to get roms from other sources like Sense roms or Froyo on because of the driver issue. I never said you would never see custom roms. The only roms you are going to see are one's based off of Samsungs release."
And apparently this problem has happened with the others Samsung Android phones too.
That's what I meant with being locked with Samsung.

I think Yceman make the point:
Without official driver from samsung: no update.
So i am sure that 2.2 will be the last update from samsung (yeah the sucessor is announced for Q1Y12.
And this means, that i will give back my galaxy S because i want more than 1 update (okay froyo will be an important update).
Sorry Samsung...
regards
Timo

TimoC said:
I think Yceman make the point:
Without official driver from samsung: no update.
So i am sure that 2.2 will be the last update from samsung (yeah the sucessor is announced for Q1Y12.
And this means, that i will give back my galaxy S because i want more than 1 update (okay froyo will be an important update).
Timo
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Can any of the recent phones handle the Gingerbread for sure?
Do we really know the hardware specifications of Android 3.0?
I'm going to the SGS fingers crossed that it get the FroYo in 2010. HTC Desire get it for next Xmas, as read in many sites.

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Can any of the recent phones handle the Gingerbread for sure?
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We know nothing "for sure". But it is very likely: The first Android Phone (G1),released 2008, runs Android 2.1 just fine, and it is getting 2.2 as well.
The question is not in hardware, but in support. Does Samsung want to support this phone in 6 month, and does the community has what it needs to take the future of the I9000 into its own hands?
As long as nobody counters the "drivers are properitary" argument from psychoace, I expect that there won't be custom roms which are not based on Samsung's own ROMs.
And as long as Samsung's PR does not make a great statement in this direction, we should expect that they won't support the galaxy S in 6 month. Because that is what they did with all their android phones so far. The samsung moment can easily handle Froyo, it was released in Fall '09, and it was announced a week ago that it won't get the update.
That said, support is not better from HTC, Motorola or Sony. At least here in Europe. The Nexus One is the exception, but that is not because of HTC.

Hi Guys. This question of on-going support is the critical one for me. I really wanted to buy the Galaxy S but I've just pulled the trigger and purchased a nexus one !!!
Like any 'bleeding' edge phone the Galaxy S currently has a number of outstanding issues but who knows when, if ever, they will be fixed. At least with the nexus one there are regular updates from google AND there are loads of roms and driver updates etc available.
For me in the end it boiled down to a choice between (a) the Galaxy with its better hardware and features (E.g. the screen, built-in memory, video playback, music player etc) but with unreliable fixes and updating and (b) the Nexus with a not so good screen and poorer selections of apps out of the box but with easier updating and reliable updating.
However, having said that, I still think the Galaxy will still be a good/better choice for many ( most?) people provided purchasers are happy with the phone as is. I regard myself - and probably many of the XDA-developer members as a minority for whom the latest OS updates are important.

MetaDude said:
Hi Guys. This question of on-going support is the critical one for me. I really wanted to buy the Galaxy S but I've just pulled the trigger and purchased a nexus one !!!
Like any 'bleeding' edge phone the Galaxy S currently has a number of outstanding issues but who knows when, if ever, they will be fixed. At least with the nexus one there are regular updates from google AND there are loads of roms and driver updates etc available.
For me in the end it boiled down to a choice between (a) the Galaxy with its better hardware and features (E.g. the screen, built-in memory, video playback, music player etc) but with unreliable fixes and updating and (b) the Nexus with a not so good screen and poorer selections of apps out of the box but with easier updating and reliable updating.
However, having said that, I still think the Galaxy will still be a good/better choice for many ( most?) people provided purchasers are happy with the phone as is. I regard myself - and probably many of the XDA-developer members as a minority for whom the latest OS updates are important.
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A number of items to consider:
1. This phone is being released worldwide. (support is a given)
2. Samsung has released the source code and developed a site to release source code for all their future products.
See here: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/reception_main.do?searchValue=i9000&method=reception_search
3. There is already a custom rom on MoDaco.
4. Since the phone is already rooted, further support will no doubt continue.
5. The GPU on the SGS is just insane compared to what is currently available on other phones. (including the iPhone 4)
6. The Screen!
7. The Screen!
8. The Screen!
Only time will tell how much support this phone will get from the community, but considering it is already rooted and the amount of enthusiasm people have for this phone, I think the support will continue. Even with Samsung's previous history (Behold II), I'm confindent that the SGS will get continued support. I feel this is the beginning of a very important product line for them. The backlash from South Korea alone would be immense if they dropped support. Pissing off customers in your home country would not be a good idea.
I'm definitely putting all my eggs in this basket and hoping for the best.
PS: There's no such thing as a future proof phone. There will definitely be a better phone this fall. But probably none with a Super AMOLED screen.

No Froyo till January?!? PROOF!!

Message from SamFirmware I got from Twitter after asking when well see froyo...
Sorry if its in wrong forum.
"SamFirmware: @thunderlight868 America will be later. Samsung want first his 2.2 for Europe - Asia - Africa.I think update for America December / January"
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samfirmware is not an official channel, right?

Samfirmware is NOT Samsung. Not to mention they said they think (so it's just a guess) December or January. There is no proof here. Anyone's guess is as good as this one.

Actually.. I Think It Makes Sense...
The End Of The JI6 Firmware Is Oct. 31st Right?
Give It 2 Weeks To Deal With Customers...
And We Should Get It Within 3rd Week Of Nov. Through 2nd Week Of December

yeah and this is why I'm trading the vibrant for a g2.

Samsung’s full press release is as follows:
Samsung GALAXY S Offers New Android 2.2 Upgrade
New platform upgrade provides enhanced experience on the go
SEOUL, Korea – October 18, 2010 – Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., a leading mobile phone provider, today announced the Android™ 2.2 (Froyo) upgrade to the Samsung GALAXY S, giving users access to new features, enhanced navigation applications and improved performance.
The Android 2.2 upgrade will be available via Kies, Samsung’s unique in-house software upgrade program. Kies can be downloaded at the Samsung mobile website (http://www.samsungmobile.com).
The GALAXY S is Samsung’s cleverly designed smartphone with a bright 4-inch SUPER AMOLED screen and a 1 GHz application processor, giving users an intelligent, immersive and integrated mobile experience. The Android 2.2 upgrade offers voice-controlled GPS through Google MapsTM with Navigation, faster performance by JIT(Just in Time) compiler. Additionally, further functionalities including Search in-browser, Adobe® Flash® Player 10.1, improved customization options will be provided with OS upgrade.
- Google MapsTM with Navigation: GPS navigation system with voice guidance
- Adobe® Flash® Player 10.1: Allow the web browser to make full use of the whole web
- Setup Wizard: Quickly customize the GALAXY S and access networks with ease
- Home Screen/Menu Preview and Edit : Preview by pinch-zoom
- Search in-Browser : Google™, Translate, Wikipedia, Dictionary
The Android 2.2 upgrade will be available from the mid of October 2010 in the Nordic region and gradually rolled out to other European markets, Southeast Asia, the Middle East Asia, North America, Africa and rest of the world.

From the samsungmobileus Twitter in reply to a question about Froyo on Vibrant:
@Dirksmoothe we are working on Android 2.2 for the current Galaxy S phones. It will be available this year.​
They will probably deliver on that date, although it might be a situation like December 31st is when the first OTA's roll out, with everyone else getting the update by January 31st. But that's good enough for us because it will be on XDA before too long after the first OTA's rolled out.

Moved to General as not development

I want froyo as much as the next guy but honestly I can wait patiently. This phone runs flawlessly as is. The only real benefit would be a couple apps, flash which will be nice but I probably won't use very often. Not to mention the performance increase but I'm completely content with where I'm at now.
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From the Samsung press release:
The Android 2.2 upgrade will be available from the mid of October 2010 in the Nordic region and gradually rolled out to other European markets, Southeast Asia, the Middle East Asia, North America, Africa and rest of the world.
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Be aware that even for "North America," Samsung may be referring to the variants of the international I9000 that are sold in Canada. That is still close to the "Galaxy S" phones sold in Europe, and not so close to the U.S. carriers' modified phones.
The U.S. carriers have a lot of their own notions about their branded products. Both the hardware and firmware of the AT&T Captivate and T-Mobile Sprint are different from the Samsung I9000 reference model in at least some ways. (The Verizon Fascinate and Sprint Epic 4G are even further away in design, with their CDMA radios and differerent chipsets, including the GPS chip.)
In summary, all "Galaxy S" phones are not the same. There is much misleading information floating around about the international Galaxy S platform, from which naive observers erroneously generalize and derive predictions about the U.S. market.

stepinmyworld said:
yeah and this is why I'm trading the vibrant for a g2.
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Because you're horribly impatient or because you think there will be less dumbassery in the G2 forums?

stepinmyworld said:
yeah and this is why I'm trading the vibrant for a g2.
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What do you think will happen first, Froyo on the Vibrant, or a real root for the G2? Frankly, I don't know why you'd want to swap when there are already great ROMs out for the Vibrant and it's about to get much much better. G2 development is pretty stagnant right now while they wait for a permanent root solution.

Kubernetes said:
What do you think will happen first, Froyo on the Vibrant, or a real root for the G2? Frankly, I don't know why you'd want to swap when there are already great ROMs out for the Vibrant and it's about to get much much better. G2 development is pretty stagnant right now while they wait for a permanent root solution.
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Unless some genius decides to fry the chip that prevents root with a soldering iron to deactivate it, my vote is on the vibrant getting froyo.

Who cares about Froyo release??? It will come to your phone via OTA at some point, and there will be a plethora posts "OTA bricked my phone" - once you go custom, you would never look at the OTA/stock. There might be a bit of a delay getting a custom ROM after the OTA started rolling out, but the quality of work put into the custom ROM's by the devs here - do not forget to donate to keep the development fluent - exceeds OTA by several miles.
For all I care, my phone runs as smooth as butter now on a custom Eclair ROM, I don't think Froyo will be a great improvement, stock OTA Froyo that is.
P.S. Go ahead get that G2, and join the army of loosen hinges and constant reboots whenever your coverage degrades.

lqaddict said:
Who cares about Froyo release??? It will come to your phone via OTA at some point, and there will be a plethora posts "OTA bricked my phone" - once you go custom, you would never look at the OTA/stock. There might be a bit of a delay getting a custom ROM after the OTA started rolling out, but the quality of work put into the custom ROM's by the devs here - do not forget to donate to keep the development fluent - exceeds OTA by several miles.
For all I care, my phone runs as smooth as butter now on a custom Eclair ROM, I don't think Froyo will be a great improvement, stock OTA Froyo that is.
P.S. Go ahead get that G2, and join the army of loosen hinges and constant reboots whenever your coverage degrades.
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Yep, what he said.

+ 2 no froyo till 2012 oh wait thats the end of the world
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dezvous said:
I want froyo as much as the next guy but honestly I can wait patiently. This phone runs flawlessly as is. The only real benefit would be a couple apps, flash which will be nice but I probably won't use very often. Not to mention the performance increase but I'm completely content with where I'm at now.
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This phone doesn't run flawlessly. Try hard to delude yourself, but even looking at it from the perspective of "it's an opinion," it sounds silly at best.
While FroYo may not have features that you crave, it does for many other users. Many of those features actually will help the phone approach "flawlessness," which it has continuously failed (quite convincingly) to achieve thus far.

Kubernetes said:
What do you think will happen first, Froyo on the Vibrant, or a real root for the G2? Frankly, I don't know why you'd want to swap when there are already great ROMs out for the Vibrant and it's about to get much much better. G2 development is pretty stagnant right now while they wait for a permanent root solution.
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Everyone doesn't root their phones.
Everyone doesn't come here to find out how to hack their phones, either (in b4 "TH3N WHY R U N XDA F0RUMZ?!?!!1?").

lqaddict said:
Who cares about Froyo release??? It will come to your phone via OTA at some point, and there will be a plethora posts "OTA bricked my phone" - once you go custom, you would never look at the OTA/stock. There might be a bit of a delay getting a custom ROM after the OTA started rolling out, but the quality of work put into the custom ROM's by the devs here - do not forget to donate to keep the development fluent - exceeds OTA by several miles.
For all I care, my phone runs as smooth as butter now on a custom Eclair ROM, I don't think Froyo will be a great improvement, stock OTA Froyo that is.
P.S. Go ahead get that G2, and join the army of loosen hinges and constant reboots whenever your coverage degrades.
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+5 Oh yeah... I second that motion.

N8ter said:
This phone doesn't run flawlessly. Try hard to delude yourself, but even looking at it from the perspective of "it's an opinion," it sounds silly at best.
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What do I gain out of deluding myself? I have literally never been upset, frustrated, or anything less than completely satisfied with the performance of this phone. Judging by what I see around here, your mileage may vary but I cannot comment on that and you most certainly cannot comment on my experience.
Let's just say this, if your Vibrant is performing slower than mine then I could understand, but if your Vibrant and mine actually do perform the same then I am unsure of what you are in search of.

From Engadget: Samsung comes clean with Galaxy S Froyo upgrade dates, in November

I see there's a lot of froyo update thread here, but this article is pretty new, so I guess I'd share it with you guys. (If the moderators deem this thread unnecessary, please , by all means, delete it). Anyways, here's the news:
The Android 2.2 upgrade situation on the Galaxy S has been a veritable rollercoaster of emotions for owners recently, owing in no small part to the seemingly final firmwares that have been briefly posted and pulled from the company's servers in parts of the world over the past couple weeks. Nordic countries have already sample the goods, but Sammy says that a "new" firmware update will be available in early November in the UK and should hit "all operator versions" of the phone (presumably including the Vibrant, Captivate, Epic 4G, and Fascinate) by the end of November. YouMobile is reporting that existing regional updates have been pulled due to general not-awesomeness, so hopefully they'll have a chance to get it right over the next couple weeks before it starts hitting again. Follow the break for Samsung's press release. (open the page to see Samsung's press release, click the link below) I'll just go ahead and paste the Press Release here:
New Android 2.2 Upgrade Announced for Samsung Galaxy S
Latest Platform upgrade provides enhanced experience on the go
LONDON , UK – October 21, 2010 – Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., a leading mobile phone provider, today announces the Android™ 2.2 (Froyo) upgrade to the Samsung Galaxy S, giving users access to new features, enhanced navigation applications and improved, faster performance.
The super-slim Galaxy S is an award winning ultra-lightweight large screen Android smartphone. The Galaxy S features an incredible 4-inch Super AMOLED screen and a super-fast 1 GHz application processor, for an intelligent, immersive and integrated mobile experience. The Samsung Galaxy S has led the Android smartphone market since its UK launch this summer.
The Android 2.2 upgrade enhances the great experience of the Galaxy S, making even more of the processor speed, and the exclusive Super AMOLED screen.
The key benefits include:
Improved browser performance: enhances browsing, navigation and the 'pinch and zoom' feature
Enhanced user interface adding vivid colours and features to the android menu structure
Google Maps with Navigation: A GPS navigation system with voice guidance for a turn-by-turn navigation
Adobe Flash Player 10.1: the latest Flash Player for viewing video content
Enhanced user experience including message editing and the ability to save applications to memory card
Search in-browser: Google™, Translate, Wikipedia, Dictionary
Getting the upgrade
The Android 2.2 upgrade, will be available via Kies, Samsung's in-house software upgrade programme. Samsung has developed a brand new version of Kies which will be issued to make the upgrade experience as smooth as possible. The new version of Kies will be downloadable from www.samsungmobile.co.uk
Samsung will also be publishing video tutorials on how to upgrade, providing a step-by-step guide to the simple download process.
The Android 2.2 software is being fully tested with UK operators and the upgrade will be available in the UK from early November. We expect all operator versions of the software to be fully tested and downloadable by the end of November.
Simon Stanford, Managing Director, Mobile, Samsung UK and Ireland, comments; 'Samsung are committed to providing our customers with the best possible mobile experience, and this upgrade enhances the incredible features of the Galaxy S handset. We also want the upgrade process to be simple and hassle-free for customers, hence the new version of our Kies software and the step-by-step video guides.'
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iqbalbaskara said:
I see there's a lot of froyo update thread here, but this article is pretty new, so I guess I'd share it with you guys. (If the moderators deem this thread unnecessary, please , by all means, delete it). Anyways, here's the news:
The Android 2.2 upgrade situation on the Galaxy S has been a veritable rollercoaster of emotions for owners recently, owing in no small part to the seemingly final firmwares that have been briefly posted and pulled from the company's servers in parts of the world over the past couple weeks. Nordic countries have already sample the goods, but Sammy says that a "new" firmware update will be available in early November in the UK and should hit "all operator versions" of the phone (presumably including the Vibrant, Captivate, Epic 4G, and Fascinate) by the end of November. YouMobile is reporting that existing regional updates have been pulled due to general not-awesomeness, so hopefully they'll have a chance to get it right over the next couple weeks before it starts hitting again. Follow the break for Samsung's press release. (open the page to see Samsung's press release, click the link below)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/samsung-comes-clean-with-galaxy-s-froyo-upgrade-dates-all-carri/
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This fully backs my other post as to Samsung coming with new improved firmware in november. And also to those nordic countries, which i feel sorry for as nordic = testing/beta, before real stuff goes out (correct me if im wrong)
Well soon as i see that link pop up for UK i will DL it just incase it gets pulled lol, and of course deliver it to xad
RUSH!!!!!!!! two weeks to go imo

Let's just hope they do it right this time.
I don't mind the waiting, even if it comes out at the end of december,
as long as it's a quality release.

shorty083 said:
Let's just hope they do it right this time.
I don't care about the waiting, even if it comes out at the end of december,
as long as it's a quality release.
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I fully agree with this, along with many that a good percentage of sgs owners have had a taste of froyo in many forms. But we would like samsung to take there time this time and just get it right.... for themselves and from a business point of view and DELIVER THE GOODS!!!!

pele78 said:
This fully backs my other post as to Samsung coming with new improved firmware in november. And also to those nordic countries, which i feel sorry for as nordic = testing/beta, before real stuff goes out (correct me if im wrong)
Well soon as i see that link pop up for UK i will DL it just incase it gets pulled lol, and of course deliver it to xad
RUSH!!!!!!!! two weeks to go imo
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The nordic firmware is really crappy so yes you can call it a beta version. It is not very good. But when the real thing is rolling out. How will i be able to get it? Reg hack?
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You'd better be able to store a post code (a-z,0-9) OR zip code in contacts, not just zip codes (0-9) by then.

I don't trust it. I think we will get Froyo in 2011.

just as my original prediction goes
"Just in time for Xmas!"
merry Xmas from Samsung here's your Froyo "gift" just because you were all a good boy/girl waiting for it

Hmmmm, shame they couldn't get it right the first time! I'll give Sammy one more chance, but they better pull something special out of their hat!

Yup, really really special

ive got froyo with kies hack but all these delays are bull if you look at the galaxy k or the tab what are the running and getting released with froyo...the galaxy k is the same as the galaxy s but a smaller screen
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/36156/samsunggalaxy-galaxy-k-android-22

pele78 said:
And also to those nordic countries, which i feel sorry for as nordic = testing/beta
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Because the other firmwares have not been of beta standard? Just have a look at the 2.2 release status without reg. hack thread where you see all the latest releases on each country. Some are stuck in early 2.1 firmware. I rather have a beta 2.2 with all the goodies than a beta 2.1.
For the rest I agree to a degree. I doubt the november firmwares will be that good. I mean that's what people say all the time, "it's worth the wait". No it's not since we currently are on beta software with 2.1 and the wait will only bring a slightly less bad beta-level firmware.
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Hi, can someone tell me what was wrong with the Nordic froyo firmware?
I did the registry hack and was able to get it through Kies. I am not noticing any bugs other than the weak GPS (Which I always had no matter what firmware I was running.)
Other than the GPS which is normally defective are there specific bugs with the Nordic version?
Nordic froyo version runs great for me, super fast!
thanks

AllGamer said:
just as my original prediction goes
"Just in time for Xmas!"
merry Xmas from Samsung here's your Froyo "gift" just because you were all a good boy/girl waiting for it
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As I have already mentioned in previous post. Merry X'Mas and perhaps a Happy New Year.

This is like the 3rd delay from official sources? I'm getting frustrated about it.
It's like you are waiting for a friend who told you he'll be there in 10min and he arrives 1 hour later. Again. And again.
Now, I don't mind to wait longer for a polished and bug free firmware, but I do mind this postponing thing.
Unprofessional by Samsung.

vytman said:
Unprofessional by Samsung.
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Ive come to expect nothing but this from Samsung.
(My first and last Samsung phone, for many other reasons)

I've already installed the beta nordic froyo 2.2. Does this mean i have to flash and erase all my data if i want to go to "official" froyo 2.2 ?

I'm using the Nordic JP6 firmware installed through Kies and the only real issue I have is with performance. Even with the Voodoo fix there is still noticeable lag in many applications (mainly built in Samsung ones) and the Browser is appalling performance wise, sometimes it lags for several seconds before scrolling.

Samsung Galaxy S Getting Android 2.3 Gingerbread February,2011

GOOD NEWS! for Galaxy S owners, the Gingerbread man will be coming to Samsung Most popular smartphone (Galaxy S) Flag-ship.
Remeber, Earlier this Month, Samsung Mobile India Twitter feed tells the fact that the mobile will get Android 2.3 (Screenshot below), The company kept it short and simple with a brief tweet: "Yes we will get gingerbeard on GalaxyS." but no other info announced from the company about the update. As we know Samsung has released the Froyo to All users on Many worldwide Carriers on 11,November 2010 and All of them is Now enjoying Froyo and Waiting to taste the Gingerbread.
Well, Today we Got a Confirmation That Samsung Galaxy S is Getting Another Update probably on February,2011 may be Earlier and this update will have Android 2.3 Gingerbread onboard. Leaked ROMs and Videos may start rolling-out on January so Stay tuned, Enjoy your Froyo... Gingerbread is coming on the way to Make "YouMobile".
Gingerbread brings with it an improved user interface which is slicker and more streamlined, along with better power management. It also boasts one-touch word selection and copy/paste, support for multiple cameras and goodies such as NFC (Near Field Communications).
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This is a joke for sure.
My S has Eclair, till this time there is no official froyo upgrade available for my phone and samsung is going to release gingerbread the coming February?
Are we talking about Samsung or about the comedy channel?
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This is the difference between porting (having to program the drivers for about everything) and having a native release (like HTC on N1).
Now that NexusS is in the hands of Google, we can expect faster release!

milro1970 said:
This is a joke for sure.
My S has Eclair, till this time there is no official froyo upgrade available for my phone and samsung is going to release gingerbread the coming February?
Are we talking about Samsung or about the comedy channel?
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Froyo has been out since October/early November, officially released by Samsung. Blame your carrier if your not getting the update. Contrary to belief, Samsung is quicker than HTC when pushing out updates, it's just that HTC devices have a much larger userbase on XDA, hence the quicker porting/updating.

2.2.1 has been out officially since September as well on N1,

Tehpriest said:
2.2.1 has been out officially since September as well on N1,
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N1 is the base on wich they developped the update, don't you think it's normal it gets prior updates?
It is also pretty usual that all the "clones" of N1 will get theses updates pretty fast, since HTC only have to put their bloatware on it and it's pretty much done!

Thanks! Hope this is true.

Is this website a reputable source?

Im just going we can reg hack again for gingerbread
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2.3 will come officialy probably by the time the phone is phased out.. not all countries have 2.2 yet.

err i will believe when i see leaked firmware of 2.3. Then it shows that they are truly working for a 2.3 release

Billus said:
support for multiple cameras and goodies such as NFC (Near Field Communications).
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Both of these are hardware dependant and both the Galaxy S doesn't have. The multiple camera support is for using with taking 3D pictures and/or recording 3D movies. And NFC is there so that android devices can attempt to get ahead of the iphone5 which is said to support it but these needs a dedicated chip.

Seriously, the Nexus S is nearly identical to the Galaxy S, and it takes them this long?

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Seriously, the Nexus S is nearly identical to the Galaxy S, and it takes them this long?
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takes them how long? the nexus s was released yesterday.
Google can not give the gingerbread code out to companies until it has been officially released.
Meaning no company will have any advantage in the race for gingerbread.
Only advantage samsung has, is gingerbread was built using their hardware

BlackDino said:
Only advantage samsung has, is gingerbread was built using their hardware
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Hoping to see some crazy numbers for Linpak once JIT is optimized for Hummingbird..

Wait and see
well the recent froyo release to Bell i9000m owners did some damage to many peoples internal SD cards. Wonder what gingerbread will do to them...(melt them!)
Ah well, God knows I will try anything to get this device to function properly - I really do love it - but cant stand the issues it has.

fablife said:
well the recent froyo release to Bell i9000m owners did some damage to many peoples internal SD cards. Wonder what gingerbread will do to them...(melt them!)
Ah well, God knows I will try anything to get this device to function properly - I really do love it - but cant stand the issues it has.
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I have had one problem with this phone since purchase in September. You need to try a custom rom with a kernel upgrade, not like there is any lag in stock JPU.
I don't get how so many people complain about this great device when it can be pimped out within 30 minutes.
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Some Galaxy still don't have an official Froyo update yet. And the ones that do are still laggy. The 2.2.1 is finally a ROM that isn't laggy but its not official its a leak.
If Samsung comes out with Gingerbread they will screw it up. I'd rather have the community come up with a basic Gingerbread that works. And the community will do it long before Samsung does.

dude this is samsung, we all saw what happened with froyo and all the delays.
I have little hope for a febuary release, i say it's closer to june

2.2.1 is a revelation. I have put it on my galaxy s and its no longer laggy, really smooth, new market, lock screen wallpapers etc. Finally its transformed the phone into the powerhouse it always had the potential to be. I urge you all to get 2.2.1 ASAP!

Do you expect us to get official Gingerbread

After no rom leaks in the past few weeks after JPY I am starting to wonder will Samsung update our phones to gingerbread or leave us behind when Galaxy S 2 phone is announced next Month. I know gingerbread was just announced but usually roms leak out from Samsung regularly most probably so they can beta test
but no new roms is giving me bad vibes

i was thinking the same thing.. only new roms coming out (leaks) are 2.2 not even 2.2.1 ... i would think if they were working on gingerbread we should have seen a leaked rom by now. i have a feeling they are dumping for newer phones.

We wont get Ginger bread if we where samsung would have announced it by now to sell more phones

We will get it.
SGS will get Gingerbread ... Comfirmed by Samsung Mobile India on Twitter Account.

I do remember reading somewhere that Samsung claimed we'd be getting Gingerbread via twitter, if that's anything to go by... Q1 2011 was the 'expected' arrival for it too though I thought? :S like gingerbread isn't just a revision, such as 2.2 –> 2.2.1, its a whole buildbuild upgrade which may require more effort than expected (even supercurio and the cm team haven't made any significant galaxy s gingerbread improvements lately besides their initial work).

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SGS will get Gingerbread ... Comfirmed by Samsung Mobile India on Twitter Account.
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They said Ginger beard not Ginger bread and why have the twitter answers been removed samsung would have properly announced it to sell more phones bit they haven't

At a guess yes and a probable for 3 but that will depend upon hardware .
jje

It Samsung wants to stay in this fight ... than they have to...It make no sense to release Galaxy S 2 and not providing 2.3 to 10 milions SGS Owner .... That would be wrong decision from my point of view...
i dont think, ppl will simply move to SGS2 for the sake of 2.3

seems likely to get 2.3 at this point, but it will take some time - they might also have killed some "leakers", we didn't get newer 2.2.1 builds either..

I don't care much for gingerbread i just want now a perfect 2.2.1 rom from samsung with no lag and gps like JM9.

I got the feeling we will , 10 million sold. Would be bad for their name not releasing. But also , i wouldnt be suprised if they dont release it.
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Samsung has told Pocket-lint that it is unsure whether the latest version of Android, version 2.3, will be coming to the Samsung Galaxy S, following the announcement that its new flagship phone, the Samsung Nexus S, will be packing the new operating system when it launches later this month.
Rather than simply telling us whether it is or it isn’t, Samsung has told us:
“In case a new version of Android operating system is publicly announced and released, Samsung will review the possibility of implementation of such new version to the existing Samsung products with Android operating system (“Update”).
"Such a review will be based on various factors including, without limitation, the overall effect of such Update to Samsung products, the system requirements, the structural limitations, and the level of cooperation from the component suppliers and the software licensors”.
8 December 2010 13:24 GMT
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/37199/samsung-galaxy-s-android-update
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If the SGS brand doesn't get Android 2.3, expect a large noise from the 10 Million customers that will be outraged that a 6 month old phone is no longer supported.

kunjar said:
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to me that means if we bring a better phone out called galaxy s2 we will not update the galaxy s because the new phone will all ready have the update installed so we can rip more people off
just found this online and it doesnt look good......... JK Shin, president of Samsung Mobile, has now gone on record saying that we'll get a new Galaxy S device at Mobile World Congress in February that'll feature Gingerbread, a dual-core processor

I _would_ be upset if there was no update after the initial Froyo - knowing that a lot better is available. Especially knowiing it would affect 10 million customers.
2.2.1 or 2.3 would not matter too much. It doesn't seem 2.3 offers a lot compared to 2.2. And perhaps the ext4-basedness of the Nexus S is problematic, for example for mass storage support.
It seems Samsung is pretty good at offering features of the next version in a previous incarnation. My 2.1 had the wifi AP - which belonged to 2.2.
Let's hope for some support. My primary hope would be lag fixes and after that ongoing security support.

Jekkaman said:
I don't care much for gingerbread i just want now a perfect 2.2.1 rom from samsung with no lag and gps like JM9.
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I agree I dont like the new notification icons for 2.3. so happy with 2.2.1 with lagfix and oc.
But if we think about this 2.2.1 gave us a ota update feature.
would they really put this into the phone ( I can image it took a dev some time to get this to work for 10 million phones) if they had no intention of updating?!?!?!?1

Short: YES.

I'm pretty certain we'll see gingerbread..although it'll probably be a bit of a wait.
Now whether or not we ever see icecream....
That's probably a pipedream....
Well...maybe we won't get it officially..
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Please, please keep up. The new Galaxy S x2 will be announced on the 13th of Feb and for those who keep on about 2.3 see below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrAjgYDx7yU&feature=player_embedded

Not keeping my hopes up that we will get 2.3, if we do its an added bonus. The next galaxy S is just a couple of months away from release so Sammy might make that a selling point..