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Hi all!
I apologise if already discussed, but can't find anything after searching within xda-app and google.
I am very happy with my SGS2 in general and consider it to be the best phone so far on the market (maybe apart from sgs2 hd), and therefore expect it's performance to be superior to most phones/pda's. I was watching a youtube clip on iPod Touch 4 the other day which I normally do on my Galaxy, and was so impressed with the sharpness and vividity that I decided to compare thse two side by side. And what a disappointment! Although the Galaxy offers more saturated colours and higher contrast due to OLED's blacks, the sharpness was nowhere near iPods Retina. And personally for me it completely ruins the whole visual experience.
Don't get me wrong, I was aware of the lower resolution (not helped by bigger screen size) before even purchasing SGS2. But I guess this poor youtube experience further highlighted it. I do realize it's probably due to some limitations within the YT app not allowing high enough resolution, and the might be a solution to overcome it that I'm not aware of. By the way I used the stock YT app asa well as the one called RollTube that allows you to download videos. Connection is WiFi 12mbps and videos whatched are HD quality.
Am I the only one bothered by the slightly lower resolution of the SGS2's display? I don't know whether it's over 300ppi but I can clearly tell the difference in sharpness in side by side comparison to Retina looking at the same image. Please let me know what you think folks, and if you know how to fix the YouTube problem that'd be fantastic!
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i thought the same as you...i thought my retina display was ten times better than the Galaxy s2 one...but after spending a few months with the the phone i would not change it for the world....i was playing the other day with my friends iphone 4 and il be honest my one is better....youtube videos mine are pretty clear but probably due to the high resolution on the iphone it will loook sharper...but everyone to their own tastes i say
Iphone has higher ppi than in sgs2 which i think is the cause..
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Yea, i got this same problem, and posted in many forums about it, but obviously no one care about YT?!... The problem is not related to higher resolution on ipod/iphone retina. The same video, downloaded to the phone from Tubemate with highest res is amazing. And on HTC Sensation the things looks awesome too! So my gues is that the youtube app(SGS2), does not play videos in HQ with the highest posible resolution. And for me, for some reason, the playback itself is sometimes choppy, like not enough buffering or something?!!...This choppiness is common for me on every rom i've tried after 2.3.3, no matter custom or stock! The question is why nobody talk about that roblem? I got answers that there is no problem with playback from any forum i search. Are all those people blind, or they don't watch hq videos?
The choppines might be due to the network speed. The playback for me is very smooth.
I am pretty sure the low res is the YT app limitation. A full HD video file when downloaded to pc is around 50-100MB, whereas downloaded to the handset the same video is only 10-15MB. Obviously it is a compressed file with lower resolution. Same applies for viewing.
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Iphone has higher ppi than in sgs2 which i think is the cause..
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Obviously it is. But noone seem to be bothered, perhaps because not much can be done other than changing handset.
But the Youtube problem is software related and can be overcome.
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The choppines might be due to the network speed. The playback for me is very smooth.
I am pretty sure the low res is the YT app limitation. A full HD video file when downloaded to pc is around 50-100MB, whereas downloaded to the handset the same video is only 10-15MB. Obviously it is a compressed file with lower resolution. Same applies for viewing.
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No man, my files are just about 50-150MB when downloaded on the phone, and they are with stunning quality!And i use same WiFi network as on my PC, so there is no way that be the problem.Besides choppiness is present only in 2.3.4 or higher, not 2.3.3? Obviously this is some kind of limitation in the app, but why just on sgs2, not others? As i said, on Sensation, the problem doesn't exists? On IOS too? Did Google knows that this device is capable of more that they think? This problem drives me crazy since day 1, and shouldn't be ignored! 600$ on the phone and no quality Youtubes? WTF!?!
Actually, you know what? I've just managed to download a proper HD file using the app you mentioned (Tubemate) and despite the bigger screen size it wasn't easy yo spot the difference in the resolution of SGS2 vs Retina. Samsung have done a good job by adding some subpicsels to make up for low ppi. It's the icons where you still can spot the difference relatively easily.
If our app developers could make one that would allow an HD YouTube playback AND the download option in the same app I'm sure people would be willing to pay for it!
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Hi all!
I apologise if already discussed, but can't find anything after searching within xda-app and google.
I am very happy with my SGS2 in general and consider it to be the best phone so far on the market (maybe apart from sgs2 hd), and therefore expect it's performance to be superior to most phones/pda's. I was watching a youtube clip on iPod Touch 4 the other day which I normally do on my Galaxy, and was so impressed with the sharpness and vividity that I decided to compare thse two side by side. And what a disappointment! Although the Galaxy offers more saturated colours and higher contrast due to OLED's blacks, the sharpness was nowhere near iPods Retina. And personally for me it completely ruins the whole visual experience.
Don't get me wrong, I was aware of the lower resolution (not helped by bigger screen size) before even purchasing SGS2. But I guess this poor youtube experience further highlighted it. I do realize it's probably due to some limitations within the YT app not allowing high enough resolution, and the might be a solution to overcome it that I'm not aware of. By the way I used the stock YT app asa well as the one called RollTube that allows you to download videos. Connection is WiFi 12mbps and videos whatched are HD quality.
Am I the only one bothered by the slightly lower resolution of the SGS2's display? I don't know whether it's over 300ppi but I can clearly tell the difference in sharpness in side by side comparison to Retina looking at the same image. Please let me know what you think folks, and if you know how to fix the YouTube problem that'd be fantastic!
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Hi, where can i get this rolltube app from? I googled it and nothing comes up its also not in the market, id love to record videos for my daughter, thanks.
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But you cant watch YouTube videos on iPhone
It's spelled Rolle Tube and I think I gound it on the XDA forum.
Try Tubemate it's on the market and allows you to choose different resolutions invluding HD to download.
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But you cant watch YouTube videos on iPhone
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Does the ipod app let you view youtube videos on hd?
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Jonny, I'm pretty sure you can
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my mate has an iPhone4 and he cant watch YouTube videos.
I wish they wouldnt allow apple to use youtube - its a google service!
Want youtube, get android...
Puzzles me why google wouldnt play this card, apple would if switched around.
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iphone has youtube app build in out of the box, and it plays perfect.
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Does the ipod app let you view youtube videos on hd?
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Yes, the quality is very high.
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I've finaly found what causing the choppiness. I flashed Siyah kernel, and used smartassv2 governor. What a surprise for me was to find out that playback was fine. The problem obviously was in the default cpu ondemand governor. In other words, the cpu scalling was somehow wrong?!... Unfortunately, the smartass governor, was no good to me for games, very poor frame rates.
So I I have been researching extensively and reading many articles about 1080p screens on smartphones..... And I think I have figured it out. The human eye cannot see a difference between a 1080p smartphone and a 720p smartphone, however, there are a few drawbacks to having 1080p on a phone. One of them is battery life. It seems to use much more battery to display a 1080p resolution as opposed to a 720p resolution. And that gets multiplied when you're gaming. Also, applications and games will take up much more space then they did previously if they are optimized for the 1080p resolution. So my question is what do you guys think about the new 1080p smartphone screen Resolution Revolution? I'm hoping it doesn't make it into the Nexus 5, but that's just me.
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It's a marketing thing. Companies are going to do it because they feel like they have to and to be able to say true HD!! And think of all the tech blogs that will take a new phone down a peg or two for having "last year tech." But ultimately it's another megahertz or megapixel thing.
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It's a marketing thing. Companies are going to do it because they feel like they have to and to be able to say true HD!! And think of all the tech blogs that will take a new phone down a peg or two for having "last year tech." But ultimately it's another megahertz or megapixel thing.
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Reminds me of the old days when Intel just kept upping the clockspeed on their CPU's. So what if the tiny FSB choked the movement of information down to a crawl? The standard consumer didn't know any better. The number was higher, so people bought it. In the end, it's business. You do what sells. Gimmicks sell.
*cough* Siri *cough*
1080P is utterly useless in my opinion. To be honest I can't tell the difference between my HTC One and Nexus 4 in display. 1080P should stick with HDTVs. Imagine a 4K res phone in the future and how useless it is in a 4.7 and 5 inch screen -.-
I don't really understand the need for 1080P either. Hopefully Google realizes this and sticks with 720P for the next Nexus or Moto X phone.
Its a bloody 4-5" screen, 720p looks gorgeous, with that being said, if it costs no extra battery life and performance, than 1080p on a phone is not something worth complaining about.
However when I see 1366x768 on 15.6" laptops, than I am just dissapointed.
Have any of you actually seen a 720p and 1080p screen side by side? You can definitely see a difference...well at least I can. Every time anything gets a spec bump there are always you people saying "what's the point of blah blah blah". The point of it is that its possible so why not. Its a step forward...so we should just keep phones at 720p for as long as they become irrelevant? Should we keep laptop displays at 1080p?
No that's why we have a retina iPad and Macbook and a Chromebook Pixel and a Nexus 10. Just because the difference isn't as vast as 480p-720p doesn't mean its a useless change. A 1080p HD screen looks better than a 720p screen for me and many others and just because you cannot discern the difference doesn't mean it's pointless or useless.
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Have any of you actually seen a 720p and 1080p screen side by side? You can definitely see a difference...well at least I can. Every time anything gets a spec bump there are always you people saying "what's the point of blah blah blah". The point of it is that its possible so why not. Its a step forward...so we should just keep phones at 720p for as long as they become irrelevant? Should we keep laptop displays at 1080p?
No that's why we have a retina iPad and Macbook and a Chromebook Pixel and a Nexus 10. Just because the difference isn't as vast as 480p-720p doesn't mean its a useless change. A 1080p HD screen looks better than a 720p screen for me and many others and just because you cannot discern the difference doesn't mean it's pointless or useless.
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I have. There is no difference in my opinion. I don't know if its my eyes or not but 720P and 1080P look different only in displays larger than 10 inches for me personally. To be honest it just puts more stress on battery and/or CPU on gaming since it needs to render at 1920 x 1080.
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I have. There is no difference in my opinion. I don't know if its my eyes or not but 720P and 1080P look different only in displays larger than 10 inches for me personally. To be honest it just puts more stress on battery and/or CPU on gaming since it needs to render at 1920 x 1080.
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U must have sum eye problem there bro, put an HTC one next to HTC one x then tell me u don't see any difference, then I will tell you to see an optician.
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I have. There is no difference in my opinion. I don't know if its my eyes or not but 720P and 1080P look different only in displays larger than 10 inches for me personally. To be honest it just puts more stress on battery and/or CPU on gaming since it needs to render at 1920 x 1080.
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IMHO the quality of the technology driving the resolution is more important than the res itself. Super Amoled v. Ips+ and such. In most cases however I think a distinguishable difference is present from my gnex to this DNA. And my battery dumps on that device.. Even though we all know the gnex has blah blah blah battery. I get 17hrs on moderate use. Never before. Soo personal preference? Although I'd take the n4 ANY DAY.
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IMHO the quality of the technology driving the resolution is more important than the res itself. Super Amoled v. Ips+ and such. In most cases however I think a distinguishable difference is present from my gnex to this DNA. And my battery dumps on that device.. Even though we all know the gnex has blah blah blah battery. I get 17hrs on moderate use. Never before. Soo personal preference? Although I'd take the n4 ANY DAY.
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More so true. I dont like the oversaturated Super Amoled had after seeing the Galaxy Nexus had. Even if they had a 1080P res. Droid phones usually have better battery but say the Nexus 4 had a 1080P screen and with the battery it has now. It'll die out faster.
I mean 720P to FHD is important on a television sure but, in that situation it's easier to notice the bump in Res. In phones I doubt most consumers would even know the difference between qHD, 720P, and 1080P. If it's possible to add FHD w/o impacting battery+perf significantly then I all for it however if we must suffer with these tiny 3000>2xxxmah batteries then the tradeoff isn't worth it IMO. Increasing battery should be a top priority, the Razr MAXX battery should be in every high end phone.
Reminds me of camera phone megapixel discussions I have had with friends. "I have more megapixels than you do, then my camera is better" which isn't necessarily true. Anything pass 8mp isn't really needed because the majority of us will not be enlarging pictures to the point where the difference is noticeable(I think its 20x20 or 30x30). Also, the lens plays a large role as well but enough of the pixel talk.
720 is like the 8mp phone camera, it'll meet our needs and even exceed them dependent on the technology. 1080p screens just play into peoples ego's and the logic that bigger = better. We are programmed to think that way and the companies play us for the fools that we are.
Instead of a 1080p screen, I'd take a higher capacity battery and a 720p screen any day.
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Nexus 4 at 720p = 320 ppi. At 1080p it would be 480 ppi. If you think the naked eye at typical viewing distances can resolve the difference with all other things being equal, you need to see a psychiatrist instead of an optician.
Pushing 50% more pixels is going to take more CPU/GPU, hence more battery, again all things being equal. I'll take higher frame rates and lower overhead of 720p every time as those are actually noticeable.
But feel free to buy into the hype of 1080p on on a display the size of a pack of smokes, or 14Mp on a camera sensor the size of a match head. You'll make the marketing suits very happy. (c;
There is a video on YouTube somewhere, on it they are playing the same film on 2 tellys, they are both 42 inches and one is 720p and one is 1080p and just about no one can tell the difference.
I think most are not seeing the difference in resolution between 720/1080p on a phone, but instead seeing different screen technologies and attributing that to the screens resolution... IE - Super Amoled with its over-saturation and great blacks vs LCD IPS, etc.....
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Is there a difference between 720p and 1080p? Well of course there is, but I don't think its a night and day difference. If I go 1080P on a smartphone I want the screen to be at leat 5.5.
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Is there a difference between 720p and 1080p? Well of course there is, but I don't think its a night and day difference. If I go 1080P on a smartphone I want the screen to be at leat 5.5.
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Well, you can see the difference if you hold it 1cm away from your eyes.
we don't really need more than 720p on 4.3-5" displays in my opinion.
It's just ridiculous that 4.7" phones have displays with up to 1920x1080 pixel, yet 15.6" laptops are mostly stuck at 1366x768.
Also, why the hell do we have 27" PC monitors with 1080p? (Sure, there are some with 2560x1440 but those are way too expensive. Hell, I'm not going to pay 800€ for such a monitor)
That's just pure bull****.
Instead of pushing 1080p on phones and 1600p on tablets, they should push the resolution of laptops and desktop computers.
its called advancements and bragging rights of owning something thats better... and for battery life, I bet making a new battery design right now, slimmer and bigger cap....
tech advanced is really picking up right now compare to years ago...
Do you think the Note 3 will come with a 1080p non pentile screen or 1080p pentile?
I hope it's non pentile, love the RGB SAMOLED on Note II. 1080p RGB SAMOLED is going to be awesome, It's already awesome as it is
Should read this ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247245
Roumers says DAT Sammy Gona use OLED or LCD4 in order to save power ...
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^AMOLED is OLED. SLCD? Doubt it.
It better be 1080p rgb if they want me to "upgrade". Though I'm not that interested in 1080p, the reported energy savings of the newest oled screens is alluring.
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It better be 1080p rgb if they want me to "upgrade". Though I'm not that interested in 1080p, the reported energy savings of the newest oled screens is alluring.
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Yeah, 1080p isn't a dealbreaker for me. I don't honestly still see much difference on a good, well calibrated 720 vs 1080p screens. Probably people with perfect 20/20 vision are the ones who swear they see it, but anyways, I'm more than good with 720p
If they switch to pentile instead of rgb, doesn't matter if it's 1080p, would surely feel awful tbh. Hate pentile displays
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Look at both screens there, Note II and S4.
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Amoled screens have low brightness so I hope they increase the brightness on outdoor
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Amoled screens have low brightness so I hope they increase the brightness on outdoor
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Actually, it is possible to increase brightness of AMOLEDs a lot - but that would degrade the screen super-fast. Hence the low brightness levels/limits. And obviously the battery drain would be massive considering the whites draining a lot of battery already.
I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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In Microeconomics, in consumer choice theory, when analysis the indifference curve, there is a assumption knows as non-satiation, search them up.
Atomix86 said:
I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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+1. Can hardly notice any difference between those full HD phones and my Note II after calibration. Actually to me N2 looks quite superior to many of those screens. Don't usually put screens under microscopes though
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In Microeconomics, in consumer choice theory, when analysis the indifference curve, there is a assumption knows as non-satiation, search them up.
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What on earth are you talking about?
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What on earth are you talking about?
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Basically, axiom of non-satiation says "more is better".
therefore 1080p > 720p.
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Basically, axiom of non-satiation says "more is better".
therefore 1080p > 720p.
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Nope, I have already stated I would prefer battery life over more pixels, the current display is fine.
By that baseless logic, you could say "more cancer is better than less"... makes no sense.
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I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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Apparently some people have super vision and can see the pixels even in a 440DPI screen. (not joking)
Well (un)luckily, I don't even have 20/20 vision (still pretty decent eyesight, mind) and I'm good with my Note 2
I think lot of the "way too obvious" differences people notice are mere placebo effect. I mean 440ppi full HD? That HAS to be WAY better right? Seeing what they want to see etc. But yeah, probably there are people with perfect super vision who can make out the difference.
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Well (un)luckily, I don't even have 20/20 vision (still pretty decent eyesight, mind) and I'm good with my Note 2
I think lot of the "way too obvious" differences people notice are mere placebo effect. I mean 440ppi full HD? That HAS to be WAY better right? Seeing what they want to see etc. But yeah, probably there are people with perfect super vision who can make out the difference.
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As soon as people needs a microscope to tell which one is better I loose interest. Even at home, when everybody is buying the new Hi-Res flat screen TV, I choose to buy a projector, It's only 720p but the size is 300cm X 170cm. No TV can beat that yet
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Honestly, is it really needed?
Wouldn't a 1080p 16:9 screen offer better performance (less work for the GPU), better battery life and still be good enough to browse the web and watch full HD videos?
In every video of the Nexus 10 I've seen, it never looks quite as smooth as the Nexus 4 and 7 do
The Nexus 10 was going up against Apple's Retina display on iPads, which also boast a ridiculous resolution I believe. I could be wrong, but I believe the Nexus 10 has better numbers for both PPI and Resolution.
Yes, @espionage724, it is higher on both counts. It also operates extremely smoothly—it is one of the fastest Android tablets I've ever used, including the Nexus 7. The GPU won't be as much as a problem with Android 4.3, either. Lots of optimizations coming there! See "Android Graphics Performance" on the Android Developers Channel.
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I think its to high for now and i preffered much better quality overall ( deeper blacks , better color control , more little or not at all light bleeding, more slim and more battery life ) vs extra ultra mega extrem orgasmic number of pixels .
I need the best resolution , the best screen but only if the device can support it .
Nexus 10 could have done better but i think next nexus will be a Big Bang ..
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And why did you buy it? I agree with your arguments. But if screen resolution isn't that important to you, maybe there would have been better choices for you to make. I own this tablet since a few days and am completly happy with it. Though I'm lookin forward to the improvements somebody mentioned above for Android 4.3 when can we expect it for nexus devices?
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The resolution looks and works great with games, though, but I'm sure a few (Real Racer 3) suffer for it, due to the ridiculous resolution.
Nexus devices has always been about pushing the hardware development and possibilities of devices. My galaxy nexus was the first phone with 720p HD display.
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The resolution looks and works great with games, though, but I'm sure a few (Real Racer 3) suffer for it, due to the ridiculous resolution.
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RR3 suffers from lack of optimization, it doesn't even run at full resolution, more like 50% or less.
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RR3 suffers from lack of optimization, it doesn't even run at full resolution, more like 50% or less.
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Which is a shame. It looks GORGEOUS when forced to higher details, or when run on the Ouya, but I really wish EA had spent more time on it.
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Honestly, is it really needed?
Wouldn't a 1080p 16:9 screen offer better performance (less work for the GPU), better battery life and still be good enough to browse the web and watch full HD videos?
In every video of the Nexus 10 I've seen, it never looks quite as smooth as the Nexus 4 and 7 do
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You raise some valid concerns. It all depends if you think the ultra-sharp resolution is worth it. I'm a bit of a videophile and I love how sharp it is, but it does eat into battery life, as you say. I only use it at home, so battery life is not a concern for me.
You are right that 1080p is a much better resolution for most users, which is why no other Android tablet uses such a high resolution. There are some upcoming high-res tablets that have just been announced recently, but nothing else on the market now. Compare that to the Retina iPad, which was available eight months earlier and has sold tens of millions, while estimates are that the Nexus 10 probably still hasn't sold 1 million.
As espionage724 and Herman76 say, google was just looking to push the market forward and respond to the Retina iPad, an effort that has largely failed, though for the valid reasons that you list. Even the Retina iPad had many complaints about overheating and power draw, even though iOS is a more power-efficient OS than Android. Google probably doesn't really care how well the Nexus 10 sells, it's just a tech demo for them, to push others to match the iPad.
For me, it's not really an issue of video/picture quality at all-- above 720p/1080p, it's hard for me to pick out the difference. But for text, that extra bit of crispness makes a huge difference for me. I mainly consume textual content on my devices, and the difference between the Nexus 10 and ASUS Transformer Pad is enormous on this front. Videos? Either or will work for me.
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For me, it's not really an issue of video/picture quality at all-- above 720p/1080p, it's hard for me to pick out the difference. But for text, that extra bit of crispness makes a huge difference for me. I mainly consume textual content on my devices, and the difference between the Nexus 10 and ASUS Transformer Pad is enormous on this front. Videos? Either or will work for me.
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If you're talking about the Transformer Pad TF300T, as your signature seems to indicate, that's because it has a resolution of 1280 X 800, for a PPI of 149. That's a big difference with the Nexus 10's PPI of 300. A 1080p tablet like we're talking about, for example, the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T with a resolution of 1920 X 1200 at 224 PPI, is not going to show as much of a difference, since the PPI is about 70% of the Nexus 10, instead of 50% with your TF300T.
1080p is probably completely overkill for a smartphone, but it may be the perfect resolution for a tablet, with current technology.
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If you're talking about the Transformer Pad TF300T, as your signature seems to indicate, that's because it has a resolution of 1280 X 800, for a PPI of 149. That's a big difference with the Nexus 10's PPI of 300. A 1080p tablet like we're talking about, for example, the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T with a resolution of 1920 X 1200 at 224 PPI, is not going to show as much of a difference, since the PPI is about 70% of the Nexus 10, instead of 50% with your TF300T.
1080p is probably completely overkill for a smartphone, but it may be the perfect resolution for a tablet, with current technology.
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I'm well aware, thanks. With many tablets still being sold with WXGA screens, it becomes a frustrating chore at times, particularly as many people still do not know the difference between full HD and HD.
In any event, 720p to 1080p is noticeable for me in text rendering, and depending on your screen technology of choice (SAMOLED, PenTile, etc.), it can make a perceptible difference.
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In any event, 720p to 1080p is noticeable for me in text rendering, and depending on your screen technology of choice (SAMOLED, PenTile, etc.), it can make a perceptible difference.
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Right, my point is whether you'd be able to tell the difference for the jump from 1080p to 1600p, which is what's on the Nexus 10. My Zenbook Prime ultrabook has a 13" 1080p screen and the text is plenty sharp. We're debating whether anything beyond 1080p is overkill for a 10" tablet, given that you won't find any video beyond 1080p and you probably won't notice any difference in text, when making the jump to 1600p.
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Right, my point is whether you'd be able to tell the difference for the jump from 1080p to 1600p, which is what's on the Nexus 10. My Zenbook Prime ultrabook has a 13" 1080p screen and the text is plenty sharp. We're debating whether anything beyond 1080p is overkill for a 10" tablet, given that you won't find any video beyond 1080p and you probably won't notice any difference in text, when making the jump to 1600p.
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It comes down to text, and it's not really much of a "debate"-- personally, I can make out the difference on a 10" panel, so the resolution bump is good for me, especially over longer periods of time. I'd easily submit though that that varies from user to user, and even then from one use case to another (i.e. extended reading for novels and books/reports, or well-spaced publications).
Nope that wrong. It was the rezound from HTC but I get your general point.
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ayo234 said:
Nope that wrong. It was the rezound from HTC but I get your general point.
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Could you clarify what exactly you're saying was "wrong"/who you're actually responding to?
Rirere said:
Could you clarify what exactly you're saying was "wrong"/who you're actually responding to?
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A bit late, but I'm pretty sure he was talking about the poster who stated that his Galaxy Nexus was the first 720p phone on the first page of this thread.
LooieENG said:
Honestly, is it really needed?
Wouldn't a 1080p 16:9 screen offer better performance (less work for the GPU), better battery life and still be good enough to browse the web and watch full HD videos?
In every video of the Nexus 10 I've seen, it never looks quite as smooth as the Nexus 4 and 7 do
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because it's fit to 320dpi
a lot of apps can easily be revised to a tablet UI
ayo234 said:
Nope that wrong. It was the rezound from HTC but I get your general point.
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Talking about the first 720p being the S3. He is correct the Rezound was the first 720p phone by several weeks also it was smaller than the s3 so very high dpi. I had one. The reason I bought the Nexus 10 was the screen resolution. There were already plenty of 10" tablets with a 1080p screen.
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So i have a nexus 10 and my dad has an iPad 3rd gen. Now the thing is that from specs my screen is supposed to be better than his but then after comparing two same 720p playing videos it seems that the ipad 3rd gen gives more sharp colours than mine and was wondering whether there was a way to fix(without root) this as i remember my brother showing me on his S3 settings a way to change his screen settings to dynamic which makes colours look a lot more sharp and better looking though S3 has touchwiz and i have vanilla
Thanks
By sharp I assume you have to mean saturated. Colors look slightly better on the KTManta kernel, but we do not have any sort of color control at all and probably never will. There are a TON of posts on this matter so you should just go search them.
adnaan146 said:
So i have a nexus 10 and my dad has an iPad 3rd gen. Now the thing is that from specs my screen is supposed to be better than his but then after comparing two same 720p playing videos it seems that the ipad 3rd gen gives more sharp colours than mine and was wondering whether there was a way to fix(without root) this as i remember my brother showing me on his S3 settings a way to change his screen settings to dynamic which makes colours look a lot more sharp and better looking though S3 has touchwiz and i have vanilla
Thanks
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You can tweak this through various apps and kernels, but there are different types of screens (Ex: Amoled, IPS) and they all produce colors differently.
Edit: I stand corrected...
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speedygonzo said:
You can tweak this through various apps and kernels, but there are different types of screens (Ex: Amoled, IPS) and they all produce colors differently.
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Sadly, not true with the nexus 10. No apps or kernels. Listen to Enigma.
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