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Trying to decide which i would prefer!
I like the slim light Sammy, but the Xoom seems smoother. There are issues with the 8.9 that means its quite laggy, even with the best custom ROMs. The hope is ICS will fix it. The Xoom is silky smooth but the screen isnt so good. What are your thoughts?
Are you sure its still laggy with custom rom?
might just be touchwiz. They are both technically more than capable.
Your first task is to decide which sideboard more suitable and also which looks better. Done.
My understanding is that touchwiz is an issue, but that there is still something else going on to do wit portrait/landscape orientation. The 8.9 is reversed compared to the Xoom and as such some games dont work properly and it lags.
The Xoom feels older and is heavy, but seems better value. Both are £279 in the UK right now. Maybe ill order both and return the one i dont like as much..
Xoom all the way. Just sold my 8.9 for a xoom. Its a better value and overall experience. If size and screen is a factor get the 8.9. But overall the xoom is better in every way. Plus updates are key
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Trying to decide which i would prefer!
I like the slim light Sammy, but the Xoom seems smoother. There are issues with the 8.9 that means its quite laggy, even with the best custom ROMs. The hope is ICS will fix it. The Xoom is silky smooth but the screen isnt so good. What are your thoughts?
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Hey there...
I currently have a Xoom 2 (typing on it right now actually), and my fiancee has the 8.9 Samsung...from what I have seen so far:
- the 8.9 screen is beautiful, and nicer than my Xoom2
- Xoom 2 is quite glitchy/laggy in my opinion (I am rooted and running 3.2.2), as I am typing this I'm struggling with the keyboard (words are slow to appear and not a fluid typing experience)
- have waited an eternity for any kind of update from Motorola... I'm not holding my breath for ICS (even though I am already running it on my SGS )
-8.9 is slightly more comfortable to hold over longer periods because it's smaller
-Xoom stock browser is pretty good,quite stable...although I now use Opera Mini Next
-Latest 3.2.2 update has fixed a lot of graphical bugs and seems to be running a little smoother than on 3.2
-On the negative side, the 8.9 uses Kies, which is a dealbreaker for me...never want to use that rubbish software again after all the trouble I had with my SGS
Overall, if I had to make the choice I'd probably go for the Samsung...because you can connect it as mass storage and bypass Kies...you'll just have to use 3rd party aps/software for backing up your data.
However, I'm afraid I cant comment on the android development for each device...i just know that currently there is sweet FA available for the Xoom 2 (I've only just found out how to root it), but no ROMs as yet. I havent looked in the 8.9 section, so cannot comment on the possibility of modding it. But i believe there is a lot of stuff available for the original Xoom,which is nice !
Disclaimer...I'm sure there are plenty of people that will disagree with me about some of the points above, but hey, thats life
Hope some of this helps you
IG =]
Get the OG Xoom.
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Get the OG Xoom.
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rovex said:
Trying to decide which i would prefer!
I like the slim light Sammy, but the Xoom seems smoother. There are issues with the 8.9 that means its quite laggy, even with the best custom ROMs. The hope is ICS will fix it. The Xoom is silky smooth but the screen isnt so good. What are your thoughts?
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- Xoom with ICS is quite smooth.
- Xoom is heavy - but that indicates a higher build quality. But, I'll go for light myself next time since I take good care of my stuff and carry stuff in individual neoprene cases in my bag.
- Xoom screen is fine, but not leading class. Samsung screens are highly overly saturated wrt colors; if you like that then great, but the colors are not accurate.
I'm in the UK and had the same choice when they dropped the prices... I went for Xoom...
very smooth with ICS on... SD card slot was the clincher! I have loaded cards up with movies and music... fixed memory and no expansion slot sux hugely!
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I'm in the UK and had the same choice when they dropped the prices... I went for Xoom...
very smooth with ICS on... SD card slot was the clincher! I have loaded cards up with movies and music... fixed memory and no expansion slot sux hugely!
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this is why the xoom is probably the best tablet available, especially with another ICS update coming soon.
Plus touchwiz is extremly slow and laggy. I don't miss my 8.9 I am very satisfied with the xoom. No expandable memory was not a big deal, but at the same time it was. Now I can load up songs on my SD card and take he xoom in my car which saves on my phones battery. Plus if you play games 32 gigs will be more than enough for data. As far as development the 8.9 has like 3-4 roms, 1-2 honeycomb and 1-2 ICS (no working camera). For future updates I think the xoom will get JELLYBean because its still the only developer device until the nexus tablet in April, but that will also be a daul core. So I think we are safe for 1 more year. The 8.9 will be long gone and forgotten by the end of the year. One other cool thing it the Bluetooth keyboard and track pad made by Motorola and connecting the xoom to your flat screen is great. Its basically google TV but with all the apps.
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dislike touchwhiz very much
love the value of the wifi xoom (1) get one from any region of your choosing and roll ICS onto it and youll have yourself one of the most capable tablets available
rovex said:
Trying to decide which i would prefer!
I like the slim light Sammy, but the Xoom seems smoother. There are issues with the 8.9 that means its quite laggy, even with the best custom ROMs. The hope is ICS will fix it. The Xoom is silky smooth but the screen isnt so good. What are your thoughts?
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LOL, you are in a Xoom Forum, you know what we are gonna say!
Love the Xoom, wouldn't trade it for any other tab.
If you are going to root it and flash roms then the Xoom has a lot more development and I think it will continue to get lots of development support for a lot of years.
I have a Verizon Xoom and am running the teameos rom and it is amazing. My wife has a tab and it isn't terrible but the Xoom is a lot more fun when I can play with roms and overclock it etc.
Whenever I purchase an android device from now on I will always go with the device that had the most development.
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Hey there...
I currently have a Xoom 2 (typing on it right now actually), and my fiancee has the 8.9 Samsung...from what I have seen so far:
- the 8.9 screen is beautiful, and nicer than my Xoom2
- Xoom 2 is quite glitchy/laggy in my opinion (I am rooted and running 3.2.2), as I am typing this I'm struggling with the keyboard (words are slow to appear and not a fluid typing experience)
- have waited an eternity for any kind of update from Motorola... I'm not holding my breath for ICS (even though I am already running it on my SGS )
-8.9 is slightly more comfortable to hold over longer periods because it's smaller
-Xoom stock browser is pretty good,quite stable...although I now use Opera Mini Next
-Latest 3.2.2 update has fixed a lot of graphical bugs and seems to be running a little smoother than on 3.2
-On the negative side, the 8.9 uses Kies, which is a dealbreaker for me...never want to use that rubbish software again after all the trouble I had with my SGS
Overall, if I had to make the choice I'd probably go for the Samsung...because you can connect it as mass storage and bypass Kies...you'll just have to use 3rd party aps/software for backing up your data.
However, I'm afraid I cant comment on the android development for each device...i just know that currently there is sweet FA available for the Xoom 2 (I've only just found out how to root it), but no ROMs as yet. I havent looked in the 8.9 section, so cannot comment on the possibility of modding it. But i believe there is a lot of stuff available for the original Xoom,which is nice !
Disclaimer...I'm sure there are plenty of people that will disagree with me about some of the points above, but hey, thats life
Hope some of this helps you
IG =]
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Great response. Balanced and holistic.
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- Xoom with ICS is quite smooth.
- Xoom is heavy - but that indicates a higher build quality. But, I'll go for light myself next time since I take good care of my stuff and carry stuff in individual neoprene cases in my bag.
- Xoom screen is fine, but not leading class. Samsung screens are highly overly saturated wrt colors; if you like that then great, but the colors are not accurate.
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not going to argue, but heavy is an indicator of build quality?
I dont think this is always the case.
Either way. you posted this in the Xoom forum, so you can expect certain responses.
The xoom 2 is a nice unit though. looks a little unusual with the tapered edges, but nicely weighted.
So I have a TF Prime right now, which is seriously making me lose my mind because EVERYTHING IS SO BAD. Without going into an irrelevant ragefest, suffice to say that even web browsing is extremely slow and unreliable, which is thought to be due to poor write times while caching or something of that nature. The tablet basically is unuseable while any sort of file writing is going on, such as installing or updating apps from the market, and it affects every aspect of the tablet's performance. Can anyone comment on how the hard drive on this tablet performs, especially if you are familiar with the piss poor I/O problems with the TF Prime? Thanks in advance
I'm so happy I passed on the tf prime
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I'm so happy I passed on the tf prime
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Love the nexus so far. Some slowdown when apps are downloading etc but the the rest the time its on crack. The only buggy thing is auto brightness is hhorribl and pretty much broken.
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So I have a TF Prime right now, which is seriously making me lose my mind because EVERYTHING IS SO BAD. Without going into an irrelevant ragefest, suffice to say that even web browsing is extremely slow and unreliable, which is thought to be due to poor write times while caching or something of that nature. The tablet basically is unuseable while any sort of file writing is going on, such as installing or updating apps from the market, and it affects every aspect of the tablet's performance. Can anyone comment on how the hard drive on this tablet performs, especially if you are familiar with the piss poor I/O problems with the TF Prime? Thanks in advance
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Ughh I remember this with my TPrime. I'm glad I got rid of it when the new iPad was launched. It was a little faster than my Xoom, but it was unusable whenever doing anything in the background especially when downloading/uploading. I got the Nexus 7, but it won't be here until later this week I will check back on this thread and see if anyone has answered your q's. I have the Galaxy Nexus and everything is faster with Project Butter and everything is much faster. I do notice that the phone runs at somewhat the same speed no matter what you are doing on the phone. I think they mentioned something about the processor, RAM, GPU etc can all run simultaniously or something. Maybe this will make it much faster. If it is anything like the Galaxy Nexus on JB then I think I will be much happier with this tablet as I've given up on Android tablets and this is the last chance for me.
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So I have a TF Prime right now, which is seriously making me lose my mind because EVERYTHING IS SO BAD. Without going into an irrelevant ragefest, suffice to say that even web browsing is extremely slow and unreliable, which is thought to be due to poor write times while caching or something of that nature. The tablet basically is unuseable while any sort of file writing is going on, such as installing or updating apps from the market, and it affects every aspect of the tablet's performance. Can anyone comment on how the hard drive on this tablet performs, especially if you are familiar with the piss poor I/O problems with the TF Prime? Thanks in advance
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I never had the prime, but I did have the newer TP 300 and it drove me nuts as well. It didn't matter what was being done in the background, browsing on it was horrific. A factory reset made it better, but it still was worse than my previous tablet which was a tegra 2 device.
The Nexus however is a serious, mean little beast. It smokes my previous tablets. I went on a download fest when I first got it and it didn't miss a beat, while still navigating and browsing. Don't worry, you'll see... it will definitely keep up with what you're doing!
Only thing bad with my Prime is the wifi/BT performance. I don't seem to have the problems with ANR's others describe over in that forum I run on performance at 1.5 though. My N7 so far has been fluid no ANR at all
Replaced my prime with this and I couldn't be happier. My prime was super laggy, JB might improve that though.
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Only thing bad with my Prime is the wifi/BT performance. I don't seem to have the problems with ANR's others describe over in that forum I run on performance at 1.5 though. My N7 so far has been fluid no ANR at all
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I have no issues with my Prime at all. unlocked running Androwookie with Motley 3.05 alpha kernel overclocked @ 1.8ghz. I experience none of the previous listed issues. wifi works fine. I/O performance on custom rom is dramatically improved. virtually no lag anymore from app store downloads/installs. haven't had a single ANR in over a month since going custom.
but lets leave Prime out of this forum(not you but in general). this forum already getting crazy over pre orders alone. lol.
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Only thing bad with my Prime is the wifi/BT performance. I don't seem to have the problems with ANR's others describe over in that forum I run on performance at 1.5 though. My N7 so far has been fluid no ANR at all
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I have no issues with my Prime at all. unlocked running Androwookie with Motley 3.05 alpha kernel overclocked @ 1.8ghz. I experience none of the previous listed issues. wifi works fine. I/O performance on custom rom is dramatically improved. virtually no lag anymore from app store downloads/installs. haven't had a single ANR in over a month since going custom.<br />
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but lets leave Prime out of this forum(not you but in general). this forum already getting crazy over pre orders alone. lol.
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Could I maybe see a quadrant test? I'd like to see your I/O score.
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I have no issues with my Prime at all. unlocked running Androwookie with Motley 3.05 alpha kernel overclocked @ 1.8ghz. I experience none of the previous listed issues. wifi works fine. I/O performance on custom rom is dramatically improved. virtually no lag anymore from app store downloads/installs. haven't had a single ANR in over a month since going custom.
but lets leave Prime out of this forum(not you but in general). this forum already getting crazy over pre orders alone. lol.
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Anybody from the 201 section knows your Prime is perfect dude, however us with issues shouldn't have to void warranty to get a fix I think even you understand that why not discuss it when comparing it to the previous Asus slate we all seem to own.. I wish my Prime out of the box worked as good as my N7, so far its been flawless
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Could I maybe see a quadrant test? I'd like to see your I/O score.
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attached from my 201. N7 3rd pic. When looking at them keep in mind Prime is still on 2.6 kernel whereas N7 is on 3.1.10
demandarin said:
I have no issues with my Prime at all. unlocked running Androwookie with Motley 3.05 alpha kernel overclocked @ 1.8ghz. I experience none of the previous listed issues. wifi works fine. I/O performance on custom rom is dramatically improved. virtually no lag anymore from app store downloads/installs. haven't had a single ANR in over a month since going custom.
but lets leave Prime out of this forum(not you but in general). this forum already getting crazy over pre orders alone. lol.
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This is a serious question for a lot of people that are afraid of buying an Asus tablet for numerous reasons. Quality, lag, frequent lockups, customer service issues, and shipping to name a few. I did buy a nexus 7 but only because I trust Google to do quality control and get this running up to par in spite of Asus's prior outing. Get off of Asus's nuts they screwed the pooch with the prime and this is a perfectly acceptable question that is in exactly the correct place.
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Never had a tf prime but the nexus 7 is a great tablet. I have had some fc but no biggy. The only thing I can say is when you run a widget heavy home screen it will lag,skip, and sometimes freeze for about 10 seconds. After I took the be widgets off its running perfectly. And is anyone else having trouble with video streaming? I have 30mb+ on home WiFi and YouTube will not work right. It keeps buffering and pausing. Very annoying. I know it'd not my WiFi because I've tried several other devices and they work great. Let me know if anyone else has this issue.
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Glad someone asked this question: I had the same ANR issues with my prime and i had to sell it - couldnt take it anymore. The craziest part was that no review of the tablet mentioned the I/O issues with the prime.
Its good to read that the few people who have the N7 dont have this issue so far. Mine gets delivered tomorrow and I look forward to trying it out.
Thanks everyone for the input, I'll be getting mine tomorrow too so I'll post here with my results. I was debating on just turning it for a profit when it came in, but based on the comments here I think that I'll give it a shot.
And somehow I knew Demandarin was going to show up here and say that his prime is perfect, which is great, but I'm not about to void my warranty to find out that mine doesn't perform much better with a ROM because I have defective hardware that ASUS hasn't acknowledged yet. As pissed as I am with ASUS and my horrible experience with the Prime, after seeing what Google did to the Galaxy S to make it the Nexus S, I will ALWAYS consider Nexus devices no matter who makes them. Glad to hear that the N7 seems to live up to the Nexus standard
i still have trust that the primes problems will disappear after jellybean upgrade .
N7 seems to have a better \ more stable base.
even the IO performance seems to be way better and its clear that the root cause of many issues lies in this.
i found that N7 uses the same memory chips as the prime, so i (biggest complainer on the IO issue) cant wait for the big upgrade!!
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New to the forums, looking to by my first tablet. Not really interested in the ipad 3. I want a tablet which will be good for watching videos and playing a bit of games, also want a good web browser. Which tablet will be ideal out of these 3? My budget is $500, so the price factor doesnt really matter. Neither the s pen or the keyboard dock appeal to me. Thanks!
The Infinity would be the worst drain of money you could even consider. For its price, the hardware is underpowered - typing on it right now, Browser (stock, not Chrome - it's too slow to run Chrome smoothly) force closed (this is TF700 hate-post V2) and the keyboard froze for a good 10 sec when I got back in. Build quality and the like is down to chance, but even if you get a well-built one, the I/O sucks, Tegra 3 can't push 1080p without crying to its mother and to be honest, Asus' software updates are unreliable. The alarm clock's still broken from the one before last.
The Nexus 10, on the other hand, has the most powerful processor in any mobile device right now, and it is well-equipped to power the much, much higher resolution it has to offer. You can pretty much guarantee that it will provide you with the best Android has to offer on tablets both now and for a long time into the future. The Infinity is already obsolete.
Also, the Note's only real draw is the S Pen, though for some that is pretty significant (it's like a Wacom tablet computer). So if that isn't what you're after, save yourself some money and grab the Nexus 10.
The NEXUS hands down, 100%. It is the fastest Tab on the earth with the best screen of all. If only I did not buy a N7.
If I was looking to buy a 10in tab, then I would go for the nexus 10.
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The Infinity would be the worst drain of money you could even consider. For its price, the hardware is underpowered - typing on it right now, Browser (stock, not Chrome - it's too slow to run Chrome smoothly) force closed (this is TF700 hate-post V2) and the keyboard froze for a good 10 sec when I got back in. Build quality and the like is down to chance, but even if you get a well-built one, the I/O sucks, Tegra 3 can't push 1080p without crying to its mother and to be honest, Asus' software updates are unreliable. The alarm clock's still broken from the one before last.
The Nexus 10, on the other hand, has the most powerful processor in any mobile device right now, and it is well-equipped to power the much, much higher resolution it has to offer. You can pretty much guarantee that it will provide you with the best Android has to offer on tablets both now and for a long time into the future. The Infinity is already obsolete.
Also, the Note's only real draw is the S Pen, though for some that is pretty significant (it's like a Wacom tablet computer). So if that isn't what you're after, save yourself some money and grab the Nexus 10.
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I'm still within my return period at Best Buy -- and will be bringing my Infinity and dock back, and getting a Nexus 10. Build quality for mine is fine -- actually very solid, nice form factor, superb battery and nice display. But it IS a bit laggy, and between ASUS and NVidia, there's way too much in the way of arcane routines to go through in order to unlock, root and safely flash it. Nexus 10 promises to be a much better experience in this respect. I'll be getting the 32GB N10.
If the Nexus 10 had 3G then I don't think I would hesitate to chose it, I have a nexus 7 and I'm thinking about giving it to my wife and getting a new Nexus 7 32GB+3G version, from the look of how the nexus 7 is going, I may just wait for the Nexus 10 in a few months when they bring out the 64GB+3G nexus 10 (although 32GB is probably more likely, I may just hold out for the 3G version)
Thanks for the input guys. Do you guys think the nexus 10 will get custom Rom like the cleanrom on the tf700, because I would like flash lol.
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Thanks for the input guys. Do you guys think the nexus 10 will get custom Rom like the cleanrom on the tf700, because I would like flash lol.
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are you serious? the pure Jelly bean is the best.. why would you want to replace it?
to your question, easy choice. nexus 10, of course. Im using a Note 10.1 and it sucks really bad.
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Thanks for the input guys. Do you guys think the nexus 10 will get custom Rom like the cleanrom on the tf700, because I would like flash lol.
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Nexii have classically been rom magnets, though there is always the danger that they've finally released enough to dilute this effect. Also important is the number of users, which is also correlated to the number of roms. The 10 inch android tablet is not proven (but this is probably its best chance).
CleanRom on the Infinity is an Asus ROM, trimmed lovingly. It's still a manufacturer ROM, though, and I would bet you 2 Nexus 10's that the Asus UI never makes it to the n10.
I returned my infinity for the reasons in post 2. I'm not bitter, I just think my $500 is better spent elsewhere when my phone is better than my tablet...
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Sorry for my horrible knowledge on the devices lol im new to all this, after all, I'm coming from an apple product. Will there still be a way to obtain flash on the n10?
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The NEXUS hands down, 100%. It is the fastest Tab on the earth with the best screen of all. If only I did not buy a N7.
If I was looking to buy a 10in tab, then I would go for the nexus 10.
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ya, till now the best u can say i guess :fingers-crossed:
Stock Infinity is a no no
Manan1 said:
New to the forums, looking to by my first tablet. Not really interested in the ipad 3. I want a tablet which will be good for watching videos and playing a bit of games, also want a good web browser. Which tablet will be ideal out of these 3? My budget is $500, so the price factor doesnt really matter. Neither the s pen or the keyboard dock appeal to me. Thanks!
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It's not worth spending your money on TF700T because it lags crazy! I'm finally Unlocked (Clean rom 2.3) But what's the point? I just voided my warranty for a device that can't run smoothly without a Custom Rom. Get a device that actually runs smoothly without any type of tweaking.
My Infinity works great but It's not the same feeling like i had before i unlocked it (Fear of Bricking). I might even buy N10, Hopefully i don't get same experience i had on infinity.
Since that is cleared up, I would say Nexus 10 seems like a better deal in Hardware but If you want features like S-Pen and what not then Note is great. But at end of the day, you will be frustrated with slow OS than not having the features (S-Pen, Multiscreen)
Wait till there are couple of reviews for Nexus 10, I will not buy anything else until i see a video for it.
TF700T Disappointed me.
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It's not worth spending your money on TF700T because it lags crazy! I'm finally Unlocked (Clean rom 2.3) But what's the point? I just voided my warranty for a device that can't run smoothly without a Custom Rom. Get a device that actually runs smoothly without any type of tweaking.
My Infinity works great but It's not the same feeling like i had before i unlocked it (Fear of Bricking). I might even buy N10, Hopefully i don't get same experience i had on infinity.
Since that is cleared up, I would say Nexus 10 seems like a better deal in Hardware but If you want features like S-Pen and what not then Note is great. But at end of the day, you will be frustrated with slow OS than not having the features (S-Pen, Multiscreen)
Wait till there are couple of reviews for Nexus 10, I will not buy anything else until i see a video for it.
TF700T Disappointed me.
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Thanks, I guess I can wait a while and read some reviews
yea, if I were you I would avoid the TF700, especially if you don't want/need a keyboard dock.
It has a nice deisgn, and a great screen, but it is laggy as crap and I haven't rooted mine so the overall experience sucks.
On paper it's almost the perfect tablet. Unfortunately Asus really dropped the ball on this one.
I'm probably getting the Nexus 10. Then selling it if Asus makes a really nice Transformer replacement at CES. Or I'm switching to Windows 8. I have no idea what I want to do.
People , I was checking the App store , and found a good number of Apps supported for the tablet , Apple may boast a 275000 app selection , but many of them are just show off (like the brain explorer , titanic time) and so forth , they look good for a couple of weeks , until their charm fades away
The main ones are content comsumption apps , and the market has a handful of them (CNN , cnbc , even TV streams) Google docs on google drive is a charm to use.
PLus I wont be bogged down by itunes all the time ,
Nexus 10 is a definate buy if u r not in the apple ecosystem
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People , I was checking the App store , and found a good number of Apps supported for the tablet , Apple may boast a 275000 app selection , but many of them are just show off (like the brain explorer , titanic time) and so forth , they look good for a couple of weeks , until their charm fades away
The main ones are content comsumption apps , and the market has a handful of them (CNN , cnbc , even TV streams) Google docs on google drive is a charm to use.
PLus I wont be bogged down by itunes all the time ,
Nexus 10 is a definate buy if u r not in the apple ecosystem
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Mm. One of my key reasons for not buying anything Apple is to use one to its fullest, you need the whole iRange, and Mac has the disadvantage vs Windows when it comes to ecosystem (especially games) so I don't really want to.
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Mm. One of my key reasons for not buying anything Apple is to use one to its fullest, you need the whole iRange, and Mac has the disadvantage vs Windows when it comes to ecosystem (especially games) so I don't really want to.
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If you want a Mac and don't hate your money:
Buy a wicked Windows PC/laptop for 1/3 the price of a mac with comparable hardware
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Use in full screen mode
Profit
To those who are saying the Note 10.1 and the Transformer Infinity are ****ty tablets, how could you possibly think that? Have you never used a Coby tablet running GB?
To answer the OPs question, don't buy a tablet at all. Tablets are transitional technology, they won't be around forever and the ones that are brand new depreciate in six months and become totally outdated in a year. Even if tablets weren't a completely pointless waste of money, even if you could find some productive use for it that would make it practical for you to own one, no matter what tablet you buy it will be totally outdated in a year. So I say spend your money on something else.
After having all three, I'm holding on to my Nexus 10. The my experience with the ASUS TF700 was frustrating, and after multiple returns for a variety of issues I got a "good" one. Stock it's a frustrating experience, and making the necessary modifications voids your warranty.
The Note was a great tablet, although I'm not a fan of TouchWiz it wasn't so bad. It stomped the TF700 in web browsing too. The S-Pen was a novelty for me though, so I figured I'd save some money.
The Nexus is a beast, no regrets.
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For your requirements, watching movies and playing games, I'd recommend:
1) Galaxy Note 10.1
The CPU/GPU and resolution are balanced right and all games are fast. Screen on battery life is consistently ~8 hours. Benefit is it's not just a consumption device but also creativity and productivity with pen for drawing, paperless note taking, etc. Price was dropped to $499 for 32GB version to compete with Nexus 10.
2) Nexus 10
Has potential but games need to be optimized for it and the ridiculously high resolution. Battery life, sound quality and screen quality are behind Galaxy Note 10.1. It's a brand new device so there are minor issues that need to be addressed with the upcoming OS updates.
Skip the Tegra3 Infinity. When looking at Google Play comments for games I always see people reporting performance and games not working on TF201/300/700 devices while it's fine on other devices. I had the Nexus 7 and some games like Nova 3, etc. are laggy while fine on the other devices.
Another option unless you're anxious to get something now is to wait closer to Christmas and hope for new devices to appear. A Galaxy Note 12" 1080p with 4-core Exynos 5450, 4GB DRAM, etc. would be ideal.
In terms of overall performance which one is genuinely better, price is no concern because I can get them both for $399, storage is not a big concern because I don't plan on taking picture or having TOO MUCH music on there.
Jlox1 said:
In terms of overall performance which one is genuinely better, price is no concern because I can get them both for $399, storage is not a big concern because I don't plan on taking picture or having TOO MUCH music on there.
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I cannot speak as to the Nexus 10 yet, as I do not own one. Waiting for Google Play to get them back in stock.
I can, however, speak regarding the Infinity as for a brief period I owned one... actually went through four. Trust me, you do NOT want that tablet! Asus threw a decent CPU at it, but went cheap on the storage and as such its prone to stutter quite a bit. It's enough of a hit to harm the user experience... my HP Touchpad running CM9 ran circles around it and that thing was a full year older!
Get the nexus ive owned the infinity when it came out and while the screen is great and also build quality, the I/O lag is terrible you have to flash cleanRom to even get any kind of smooth performance and even then it cant match the nexus 10.
I used CLEAN ROM and Data2SD with a UH1 Micro SD, still laughable performance by comparison.
In my opinion, if you don't need a full fledged Keyboard dock (full size usb port, and extra battery) then get a Nexus.
The transformer is cool, and if the keyboard dock didn't cost an extra $150 I might have kept it for school. Otherwise, it's got a brushed aluminum back.
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If you don't care about storage then there is no question you should get the nexus 10.
Speaking as a tf 700 owner, the user experience is awful.
The build quality is nice, screen is the best and it's got cool features but if constant stuttering and lag doing the most basic operations like opening a web page then switching to Kindle and going back to home screen, bothers you then stay away from the infinity.
+1 for all posts about how laggy the t700 is. Made a huge mistake buying this one.
I also had a TF700T....kept it for 58 days and returned it to Best Buy (60 day return option under Premiere Silver). Great case, overall fit and finish very nice, nice screen. But the periodic lag was annoying, there were periodic freezes, and I didn't want to depend on a custom ROM just to get normal performance. I liked the extra battery in the keyboard/dock, but found the keyboard to be unnecessary. In the end I found that I just wasn't bothering to use the Infinity.
In contrast....I love the Nexus 10, carry it and use it all day. Excellent device that will keep benefitting from Android evolution frequently and long into the future.
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I have had both as well. Although the 700 was decent - I am loving the N10. Wonderful screen and fast in all aspects....including games.
I have owned both, the TF201 Prime (C1) and then the TF700 (C6) which I exchanged the 201 for, and now after having N10, I'd take it over both- anyday of the week.
Keyboard attachment with battery and the look are really only things going for them there's so many cons to both all you have to do is go into one of their forums to get an idea of what is wrong with them. (Backplate interference, dead GPS on the 201, I/O, popping/clicking screens etc) 400 imo is still too much I wouldn't pay much more than 300 for either after all the BS I've experienced with them personally.
As the other posters noted the Infinity suffered from lag issues. I kept it for 30 days. The Nexus is clearly superior in performance.
Yup, I'm another one who went through 3 of them before getting the N10.
Love my infinity. Awesome tab. People say the screen on the N10 is better but honestly its not. Its pixel density might be higher (spec sheet booster) but the contrast sucks to all hell. I not rooted or unlocked and performance on the infinity since the updates is amazing. Add to that the form factor, full keyboard for extra battery and external storage and you have the best tablet IMHO. I would say around with both but honestly the infinity to me just the better all around device. Take a look at all the comparison sites and they will confirm what im saying. Also are you a student or just looking for a media consumption tablet? Best of luck!
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I've had tf201, tf700, n10 all at the same time. Performance wise you can't beat the n10. Its a beast but the form factor of the Asus is awesome. If you're only concern is performance don't get an Asus. Even with cleanrom, clemsey kernel and data2sd its not going to beat the n10 on performance.
N10 is also future proof for a while and will probably have a better resale value vs the tf700. Just in case you decide to sell it and go for the new tegra4 tablets
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IO speeds on the nexus 10 (above 100MB/s) are second to none. In fact they are twice as fast as the second fastest device. They are more than 5 times faster than the IO speeds on the infinity. That alone plus the cortex a15 and the ridiculously fast gpu makes it a much better performer.
Really, really disappointed from day 1, worst battery life, insufficient ram, laggy here and there, memory leaks and redraws, black smudges on white screen while scrolling, this is my second replacement, and Android 6.0 which I had I hopes for fixing the nexus 9 is even worse, I just moved back to lollipop the new build lmy48t.
I'm selling my nexus 9, I love nexus and their products, I own a nexus 5 and nexus 7, they both get more battery than the nexus 9, they are faster than the nexus 9, nor have I had a bad experiences with them, they both have 2gb ram and can open crazy tons of apps without redraws or any lock ups, $610 AU dollars in the trash, buying either a new nexus 7 2013 or a Samsung tab s2. Don't say oh factory reset, bro I've tried all ROMs, ive done 1000s of factory resets and this crap ain't working with me, the only thing the nexus 9 hasn't let me down is gaming that's IT!!!, BESIDES ITS A BLOODY HEATER, 80 DEGRESS Celsius, I'll probably use this as a heater in winter.
Totally agree, can't wait till the pixel c is out!
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Totally agree, can't wait till the pixel c is out!
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True due to 3gb ram, however I can't trust nvidia mobile processes anymore, htc one x, the nexus 7 2012 and the nexus 9, have both very bad heating problems as well as performance issues thanks to thermal throttling and memory leaks.
this time around, I'll wait for many solid reviews.
I was too excited when I ditched my ipad 2 (2011).
Did you try DU?
Also did you try an custom kernel?
Was excited to purchase but very disappointed due to the lag, seriously laggy and poor performance. Fortunately bought this on reduced price so didn't hurt so much, had I paid original price would have been very annoyed. Also can return within 14 days so will take the opportunity to do that.
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Did you try DU?
Also did you try an custom kernel?
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Brother, I love ur work and effort on ur kernels and mods, I've tried DU, cm, aicp, mokee from, vanir exodus, pa, etc....
And all kernels , and still the same, I just went on Bros nexus 7 2013, opens 10 apps and no memory leak nor redraws and still has so much ram left, did the same thing on nexus 9, redraws for every app, ????, its RUBBISH, 1 year of tolerating this is so dam annoying,
Actually, I just tried experimenting with the elemental x kernel. So far it's smoother. We'll see after a month.
All problem because google want to use the Tegra K1 chipset. Terrible battery drink, lag and hot enough to cook some egg. Really disappointed about what a 6.700 mah battery can do. If the nexus 9 is running snap 800, 801 or 805 i think it will perfect device. But i still happy with my Nexus cause i'm a big fan of HTC and waiting their tablet for along time.
This sh*t is getting so old.
I bet if you go to any device's forum on xda you'll find complaints about it being "laggy". Every one. So you better just deal with it because you'll be complaining about it with whatever you buy next too.
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This sh*t is getting so old.
I bet if you go to any device's forum on xda you'll find complaints about it being "laggy". Every one. So you better just deal with it because you'll be complaining about it with whatever you buy next too.
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he said since Day 1.. so why not return it!!
I've owned dozens of tablets of various makes and models. The forum complaints are pretty universal for every one I have owned. Laggy performance, poor customer service, taking for eeeevvverr to get updates. Along with the typical threat of "i will never buy xyz tablet again!".
Personally am liking my nexus 9. It is kind of a unique device. 4:3 ratio, front facing speakers front of the line privileges for Android updates. Mine is a 32gb lte model and I got it on craigslist for 200 bucks, so, what's not to like?
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I've owned dozens of tablets of various makes and models. The forum complaints are pretty universal for every one I have owned. Laggy performance, poor customer service, taking for eeeevvverr to get updates. Along with the typical threat of "i will never buy xyz tablet again!".
Personally am liking my nexus 9. It is kind of a unique device. 4:3 ratio, front facing speakers front of the line privileges for Android updates. Mine is a 32gb lte model and I got it on craigslist for 200 bucks, so, what's not to like?
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I love all the features but the software part is killing the tablet
I guess I am a pretty light user. I mean I am on the thing constantly but I don't play games or do anything that would really tax the system. YouTube, news feeds, Facebook, forums E-mail. Everything I do works just dandy. My two daily drivers are this nexus 9 and a Samsung Galaxy tab pro 8.4. The screen is definitely better on the Samsung. The Samsung does get hot if too many apps are open. The nexus has gotten hot a few times but I just close all recent apps and it cools right down. I like the 4:3 ratio on the nexus but it is definitely much heavier than the Samsung. Speakers are unbeatable on the nexus but they are pretty darn good on the tab pro as well. Both tablets are on the night stand but I tend to grab the nexus most of the time.
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I love all the features but the software part is killing the tablet
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I have to agree. I love the hardware but there is something wrong with the software. I'm coming from the Nexus 7 2013 and that can handle multiple chrome tabs open without having to constantly refresh them.
It concerns me that Google/Nvidia don't seem to be sorting these issues out.
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I have to agree. I love the hardware but there is something wrong with the software.
It concerns me that Google/Nvidia don't seem to be sorting these issues out.
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IMHO,
the problem is the 64bit Android running on only 2GB RAM => bad combination of software and hardware.
And it's actually only 1.8 GB available RAM. Of this Android OS alone is using 680MB on this device.
Compare that with the 32bit N5 where AndroidOS uses half of that. Other apps show similar numbers when you compare them running on 32bit vs. 64bit. This adds up quickly. Then the only thing the OS can do is kill apps in order to run another one etc.
Nothing Google or Nvidia could do about this, apart from sending out hardware upgrade kits with 4GB (actually this would be cool)
Now, despite this, I like the N9, I like the 4:3 screen for reading! And when mostly reading (Newsreader, Firefox, PlayBook, Kindle) I can get 10 hours usage. Pro-Tip, no root required:
Code:
adb wait-for-device shell wm density 266
Of course the situation changes when I fire up a game that keeps GPU/CPU at max frequency the whole time - then I'm lucky to get 3 hours, without burning my left hand from handling the pretty hot left edge.
This is the sad situation that forces me to root again now that the N9 is running "M": just to be able to down-clock that CPU/GPU monster.
I never experienced lag until I upgraded to Marshmallow. Now that I'm back on Lollipop all is good again. I admit it does run hot when running games, but as for battery life I've never had a device that performed better. I'm very happy with it, but sorry to hear you think it's the worst tablet in the world.
I guess I'm lucky. I initially swapped my first unit because of lightbleed, but I don't have severe lag, redraw, or memory-leak issues. Not any more than on any other Android device I've owned. If anything, things look better, sound better. My only complaint is also my own fault: 16gb, instead of 32gb. I can't do mass-updates from the Play Store, because there just isn't enough space. I blame Hearthstone, but that's another conversation entirely
Hey taronas,what exactly will that code do if I enter it via adb?
Cheers pal.
taronas said:
IMHO,
the problem is the 64bit Android running on only 2GB RAM => bad combination of software and hardware.
And it's actually only 1.8 GB available RAM. Of this Android OS alone is using 680MB on this device.
Compare that with the 32bit N5 where AndroidOS uses half of that. Other apps show similar numbers when you compare them running on 32bit vs. 64bit. This adds up quickly. Then the only thing the OS can do is kill apps in order to run another one etc.
Nothing Google or Nvidia could do about this, apart from sending out hardware upgrade kits with 4GB (actually this would be cool)
Now, despite this, I like the N9, I like the 4:3 screen for reading! And when mostly reading (Newsreader, Firefox, PlayBook, Kindle) I can get 10 hours usage. Pro-Tip, no root required:
Code:
adb wait-for-device shell wm density 266
Of course the situation changes when I fire up a game that keeps GPU/CPU at max frequency the whole time - then I'm lucky to get 3 hours, without burning my left hand from handling the pretty hot left edge.
This is the sad situation that forces me to root again now that the N9 is running "M": just to be able to down-clock that CPU/GPU monster.
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What adb wait for device ...improve? @taronas?
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