Can anyone explain the risk of flashing a Grouper recovery image and a Grouper ROM to the Tilapia? I hardly ever use 3G and there are a lot more ROM's to choose from for the Grouper.
So it this safe to do or is there a chance I damage it?
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Hi, I also like to know about the effect of this as well. I assume I can simply flash a grouper rom, then just flash the tilapia's radio.img separately, I know the recoveries are also different. But can grouper kernel work on tilapia too (looks like it from my search) and are the partition scheme 'similar' on both so I don't damage anything?
In anycase, I'm settled since there are plenty of roms for the tilapia, but I still like to make sure.
hav0c said:
Can anyone explain the risk of flashing a Grouper recovery image and a Grouper ROM to the Tilapia? I hardly ever use 3G and there are a lot more ROM's to choose from for the Grouper.
So it this safe to do or is there a chance I damage it?
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No big risk because a well designed ROM for grouper will never install on a Tilapia device. Useless you trick prop files?
What's for? A well designed Tilapia Rom should have the same features and behavior as a grouper one....
Just install grouper version of TWRP. This will allow u to flash grouper roms. I have no need for 3g so this is what I have done. No problems
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my old phone was the HTC One X and I remember having to repack the kernel for the rom I was using
1) is it the same here with the Nexus 4 after rooting/unlocking? any automatic repackers out there?
Also,
2) do I still need to "fastboot flash boot boot.img" everytime I flash a new rom
PS pretty excited about getting back into the android scene. my nexus 4 is coming in tomorrow.
From what I know I never had to repack any kernel on my nexus phones. All you need to do is run the unlock command once through fast boot and you can flash whatever you like. This phone is made so you can run what you like without jumping through hoops like the branded phones.
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can anyone second that?
once the bootloader is unlocked, and have a custom recovery installed, you can flash any nexus 4 kernel you want(compatible kernel). you dont have to repack anything.
Thanks simms22
is flashing the boot.img required after flashing a rom?
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Thanks simms22
is flashing the boot.img required after flashing a rom?
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if thats the kernel that you are flashing. theres only one that i can think of that requires flashing the boot.img, all the others are flashable via the recovery. but, to answer the question, after every rom flash, youll have to reflash your custom kernel, as the rom will overwrite the kernel that you are running.
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Thanks simms22
is flashing the boot.img required after flashing a rom?
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Coming from a One X myself, I can confirm that you don't need to go hunting for a repacked ramdisk for use with your kernel of choice.
As the Nexus is fully unlocked, (not some half-arsed partial unlock that was the case with the One X), all the kernels can be flashed directly within recovery
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THANK YOU for your responses guys.
any opinion on the best rom/kernel available right now for the nexus4?
I would really like the features of AOKP and cyanogenmod but hates little bugs.
Probably might stick with stock rom but maybe a franco kernel for now??
rasbean jelly rom, trinity kernel. stock rom is good too. but theres no best, theres whats best for your needs. experiment with a few different roms/kernels, find what you and your device likes best
Hello,
I'm running smoothrom and Franco kernel, I have goo manager and wanted to try a few different ROMs. When I go download a ROM from goomanager , it always says grouper instead of tilapia. Should I be concerned? What should I do?
Thanks!
Depends on what device you have. You should just download them from here on XDA.
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Hello,
I'm running smoothrom and Franco kernel, I have goo manager and wanted to try a few different ROMs. When I go download a ROM from goomanager , it always says grouper instead of tilapia. Should I be concerned? What should I do?
Thanks!
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Hi, GegRobinson....
You don't specify what type of Nexus 7 you have, but reading between the lines, I'll assume you have a 3G+WiFi 'tilapia' Nexus 7.
In which case, then yes, you should be concerned.... a WiFi only 'grouper' custom ROM will lack the the necessary 'radio' component to make it work properly. (You won't have 3G).
This question has been asked before, here, which is worth a read.
For some reason, there appears to be a paucity of custom ROMs for the 3G variant of the Nexus 7, but there are some here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2022
Having a WiFi only 'grouper' device myself, I can't make any comments on the merits (or otherwise) of these custom ROMs, so I guess you'll just have to try a few out for yourself.
Good luck.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Hey. I am relatively new to the nexus 7 atmosphere, but have plenty of experience with the original kindle fire, and Android workings. My question is do I want TWRP or do I want CWM as a recovery. On my kf I had TWRP because I don't like the look of CWM, so I was wondering which I should do for the N7. It appears that some ROMs are built specifically for one or the other, so I was wondering which is a more popular/better choice.
Also, as a side note, I see lots of posts on kernels. I never had to deal with this on the kf, so can someone give me the lowdown on what a kernel does for a ROM?
Thank you in advance.
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Will someone please help me answer my question?!?!?!
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Hey. I am relatively new to the nexus 7 atmosphere, but have plenty of experience with the original kindle fire, and Android workings. My question is do I want TWRP or do I want CWM as a recovery. On my kf I had TWRP because I don't like the look of CWM, so I was wondering which I should do for the N7. It appears that some ROMs are built specifically for one or the other, so I was wondering which is a more popular/better choice.
Also, as a side note, I see lots of posts on kernels. I never had to deal with this on the kf, so can someone give me the lowdown on what a kernel does for a ROM?
Thank you in advance.
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i am using twrp recovery at the moment on N7 altho i hav used the cm recovery on my older phone...both worked fine for me....also i have never come across any Rom specifically requesting any recovery...altho i have heard that the new kitkat roms are working on twrp ryt nw...
about the kernel..think of it as the conduit between your hardware and your software...put simply it helps your software (android) to interact with your hardware (n7) to give the output.
Hello all,
I'm on the forum for a long time, now, in the beginning in the HTC Desire forum, then on the HTC Sensation and now here.
I just bought from a friend an used Nexus 7 3G (Tilapia) tablet, which I really like.
I realized too late that the 3G model has far less developmnent activity with regards the Wifi only model, probably due to its far less distribution.
Now, I rooted my tablet and installed CM11, but I'm not completely satisfied.
What I'd like to have is a Kernel with the possibility to overclock the tablet, but I can't find any for the Tilapia.
Moreover, the available ROMs are not too much, and all based on CM11.
So, my questions:
1. Is there a stable Kernel I can use with CM11 (Kitkat 4.4.2) with which I can overclock the tablet?
2. What would happen if I install a Kernel + ROM designed for the Grouper model on my Tilapia? Would it work (with the exception of 3G, of course)?
In other words, is the hardware the same on Grouper and Tilapia, so I can use the saem ROMs and/or Kernels?
Thank you in advance.
Ciao,
Giovanni
http://vp-zp.com/snuzzo/kernels
V1.4 is what your looking for. Unsure if it will work on the tilapia though, if you wanna try it make a backup prior. If you bootloop/hang at boot hold vol down and power that will get you back to bootloader where you can access recovery
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@croccodillo
How did that work out for you?
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Hello,
At the end I installed SlimKAT ROM, which is very slim (pune intended) and fast, together with the Faux Kernel.
I'm running the "Ultimate" version of the Kernel, running the processor to 1.7 Ghz (actually, 1.6Ghz): I cound't be happier!
Ciao,
Giovanni
after hard bricking my old phone, and killing it i found this suerdooper phone for only 75e, because i am scare a bit to flash this phone i was thinking to use the Cyanogenmod Installer and install the lates Cyanogenmod.
does anybody tried this method on razor m? does the phone get reconized by the installer?
thanks
cheers
No, you need to install it the way described on the CM page, just replace the recovery with this one (6.0.4.9), as the old 6.0.4.4 is for the JB bootloader.
ok i am i noob but isnt this a recovery img? shouldnt i have stock KK on my phone before using this recovery img?
dont forget i am a noob dont use fancy words
cheers m8
Um, I'm saying that you should use CM11 for JB BL (msm8960_jbbl) instead of the version for KK BL (you don't need to understand this thoroughly) if you want to avoid WiFi and GPS hassle. If you haven't upgraded to stock KitKat yet, good for you - might as well just follow the CM page guide without replacing recovery.
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Um, I'm saying that you should use CM11 for JB BL (msm8960_jbbl) instead of the version for KK BL (you don't need to understand this thoroughly) if you want to avoid WiFi and GPS hassle. If you haven't upgraded to stock KitKat yet, good for you - might as well just follow the CM page guide without replacing recovery.
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ok thanks, got it
and avoid KK for this phone :cyclops:
thank you all so much for the fast respond, i love this community
cheers