Hey. I am relatively new to the nexus 7 atmosphere, but have plenty of experience with the original kindle fire, and Android workings. My question is do I want TWRP or do I want CWM as a recovery. On my kf I had TWRP because I don't like the look of CWM, so I was wondering which I should do for the N7. It appears that some ROMs are built specifically for one or the other, so I was wondering which is a more popular/better choice.
Also, as a side note, I see lots of posts on kernels. I never had to deal with this on the kf, so can someone give me the lowdown on what a kernel does for a ROM?
Thank you in advance.
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Will someone please help me answer my question?!?!?!
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jma9454 said:
Hey. I am relatively new to the nexus 7 atmosphere, but have plenty of experience with the original kindle fire, and Android workings. My question is do I want TWRP or do I want CWM as a recovery. On my kf I had TWRP because I don't like the look of CWM, so I was wondering which I should do for the N7. It appears that some ROMs are built specifically for one or the other, so I was wondering which is a more popular/better choice.
Also, as a side note, I see lots of posts on kernels. I never had to deal with this on the kf, so can someone give me the lowdown on what a kernel does for a ROM?
Thank you in advance.
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i am using twrp recovery at the moment on N7 altho i hav used the cm recovery on my older phone...both worked fine for me....also i have never come across any Rom specifically requesting any recovery...altho i have heard that the new kitkat roms are working on twrp ryt nw...
about the kernel..think of it as the conduit between your hardware and your software...put simply it helps your software (android) to interact with your hardware (n7) to give the output.
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Hi does anyone know if we will be able to use TWRP on the Nexus 7? I found it worked well on my Kindle Fire.
Thanks in advance.
We should make a bounty
I'd also like to see twrp ported to the n7.
i would also love to see a port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1779092
TWRP for Nexus7!
HI All,
Long time lurker
I get a bit overwhelmed with rooting / flashing and such but yesterday i received my RMA Nexus 4 and decided to give it a crack as it was a fresh start.
Used CF-Root on my Nexus 4, then i flashed Paranoid Android (v3) using Rom Manager (both excellent bits of software and really easy to use) i was so impressed with Paranoid Android (love the tablet mode) so decided to give it a go on my Nexus 7
Used CF-Root again and unlocked boot loader and rooted ok, installed Rom Manger and booted to recovery but it gave me errors when i attempted to load Paranoid Android so i exited and now back just stock software.
I used the same ROM for Paranoid Android that i used for the Nexus 4, i wasn't able to fine a specific build for the Nexus 7 so assumed that they use the same ROM? i now think i was wrong but cant find a specific ROM for my Nexus 7
Would someone be kind enough to tell me if i do need a different build for the Nexus 7 and also if i need a different GAAPS download?
Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been posted before, so much conflicting information and out of date links around the web, i just wanted to be sure.
Cheers
Steve
nexussteve said:
HI All,
Long time lurker
I get a bit overwhelmed with rooting / flashing and such but yesterday i received my RMA Nexus 4 and decided to give it a crack as it was a fresh start.
Used CF-Root on my Nexus 4, then i flashed Paranoid Android (v3) using Rom Manager (both excellent bits of software and really easy to use) i was so impressed with Paranoid Android (love the tablet mode) so decided to give it a go on my Nexus 7
Used CF-Root again and unlocked boot loader and rooted ok, installed Rom Manger and booted to recovery but it gave me errors when i attempted to load Paranoid Android so i exited and now back just stock software.
I used the same ROM for Paranoid Android that i used for the Nexus 4, i wasn't able to fine a specific build for the Nexus 7 so assumed that they use the same ROM? i now think i was wrong but cant find a specific ROM for my Nexus 7
Would someone be kind enough to tell me if i do need a different build for the Nexus 7 and also if i need a different GAAPS download?
Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been posted before, so much conflicting information and out of date links around the web, i just wanted to be sure.
Cheers
Steve
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All I did when I got my Nexus 7 was downloaded the Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
Use that and run the "All-in-One" unlock,recovery,root,busybox etc.
Note: Technically all you really needed was a custom recovery to stick and you can flash a custom rom, but I like to run the All-In-One just in case.
As for the rom, you should not flash another device's rom. Only use the one designated for your specific device. Flashing another device's will likely brick/bootloop your current device.
To make things easier, think of it like this:
Custom Roms likely already have root privileges, so flashing them automatically gives u root access. In order to flash a custom rom, you simply need a recovery like CWM or TWRP. You can achieve that however you like, but the Toolkit is easiest in my opinion.
When you flash a rom, read the requirements on the thread. It should be as easy as wiping Cache/Dalvik/Data, Flash Rom, Flash GAPPS, Flash Kernel if you want to, Flash Multi DPI Play Store if you change dpi of your apps, then reboot.
Paranoid android thread of nexus 7 is HERE, ROM is available for both grouper and tilapia.
+1 on aria807. Nexus toolkit is great for beginners and is very error proof. I've since moved onto fastboot and abd command line, but I still use the tool kit to restore to stock because its fast and easy. Damn program even downloads the images for you.
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For a second I thought you're on crack trying to flash a Sony NEX 7...
Beamed from my Grouper
I'm excited to say that I have finally invested in a tablet and decided to go with the Nexus 7 that I bought for a GREAT price! I am curious about rooting and s-off etc. I was curious if there was any information that I needed to be aware of in regards to not being able to root or s-off with updates. I would really like to have a smooth experience with accomplishing root on my Nexus but I know there could be some bumps in the road . Any information or links to threads etc. are much appreciated, I haven't unboxed yet just due to the fact that I want to make sure I can root it without it auto updating something.
Thanks In Advance
Very easy to root using nexus root toolkit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389107
Just be sure the toolkit updates itself to latest version.
You need to first "unlock the bootloader". I would recommend to do that in the beginning because it will wipe your device.
Personally i had best experience with stock kitkat 4.4.4 rooted and all unneccessary software disabled. I dont like volume adjustment on lollipop 5.0.2 but i always update to latest version just for fun.
Congratulations for your new tablet, it is a great device!
Thanks for the link and the info, any recommendations on roms/kernals? I'm new to the Nexus series so I am not familiar with any of the development/developers.
IMHO the best thing with Nexus is you'll always get the latest official rom. I have only used stock but feel free to experiment.
On my phone with 4.4.4 I use stock with xposed framework. Some great modules there. However i read that xposed is not yet ready for 5.0.2.
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Thanks for the link and the info, any recommendations on roms/kernals? I'm new to the Nexus series so I am not familiar with any of the development/developers.
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I suggest the elementalx kernel. And if you want a (improved) stock experience go for Cleanrom.
From what I remember from my HTC Wildfire days, S-OFF = Unlocking the bootloader.
If I'm wrong, can someone explain the difference
Thanks.
Masteryates said:
From what I remember from my HTC Wildfire days, S-OFF = Unlocking the bootloader.
If I'm wrong, can someone explain the difference
Thanks.
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S-Off is a HTC thing. Here you dont need to S-Off.
OP on which ROM and setup are you in?
•Hit a thanks if I helped or bringed you a smile somehow!
TheGOAT232412 said:
I'm excited to say that I have finally invested in a tablet and decided to go with the Nexus 7 that I bought for a GREAT price! I am curious about rooting and s-off etc. I was curious if there was any information that I needed to be aware of in regards to not being able to root or s-off with updates. I would really like to have a smooth experience with accomplishing root on my Nexus but I know there could be some bumps in the road . Any information or links to threads etc. are much appreciated, I haven't unboxed yet just due to the fact that I want to make sure I can root it without it auto updating something.
Thanks In Advance
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Can you confirm something. When did you get your Nexus 7 and from where. There have been problems with recently released Nexus 7 tabs from Groupon, Frys, and Best Buy that have made things difficult to do things like flash. There was a revision in google/asus latest batch that makes mounting any partitions/memory difficult.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389107
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...qa/mount-recovery-t3064562/page2#post59736397
Here are some threads that have been following the follow of new Nexus 7 tabs out in the wild.
Unlock is no problem, Wugs can get you there but not root. you need cf-auto root to achieve that.
TheGOAT232412 said:
I'm excited to say that I have finally invested in a tablet and decided to go with the Nexus 7 that I bought for a GREAT price! I am curious about rooting and s-off etc. I was curious if there was any information that I needed to be aware of in regards to not being able to root or s-off with updates. I would really like to have a smooth experience with accomplishing root on my Nexus but I know there could be some bumps in the road . Any information or links to threads etc. are much appreciated, I haven't unboxed yet just due to the fact that I want to make sure I can root it without it auto updating something.
Thanks In Advance
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Just out of curiosity, and to just make sure we are all on the same page. You got the 2013 (2nd gen) Nexus 7, correct? Being this is your first Nexus Device, and tablet if you weren't aware there is a Nexus 7 2012, and 2013.
Probably a dumb question, but don't want to link you to all these things and have you brick your Nexus because it was the wrong gen. Enjoy, thing is awesome.
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AnkeshReborn said:
OP on which ROM and setup are you in?
•Hit a thanks if I helped or bringed you a smile somehow!
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I have been running CleanROM since I have been able to flash. Smooth, snappy and very stable I highly recommend the ROM to those that have not flashed it yet.
masterchiefb117 said:
Can you confirm something. When did you get your Nexus 7 and from where. There have been problems with recently released Nexus 7 tabs from Groupon, Frys, and Best Buy that have made things difficult to do things like flash. There was a revision in google/asus latest batch that makes mounting any partitions/memory difficult.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389107
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...qa/mount-recovery-t3064562/page2#post59736397
Here are some threads that have been following the follow of new Nexus 7 tabs out in the wild.
Unlock is no problem, Wugs can get you there but not root. you need cf-auto root to achieve that.
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I got my Nexus 7 close to two weeks ago from Wal-Mart for an AWESOME price. They had it on sale for $125 and I had to grab it, there was no way I was going to pass up on that deal. I have only flashed CleanROM on my N7 so far and I haven't had any issues. Thanks for the links!
Syntax323 said:
Just out of curiosity, and to just make sure we are all on the same page. You got the 2013 (2nd gen) Nexus 7, correct? Being this is your first Nexus Device, and tablet if you weren't aware there is a Nexus 7 2012, and 2013.
Probably a dumb question, but don't want to link you to all these things and have you brick your Nexus because it was the wrong gen. Enjoy, thing is awesome.
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That's correct I do have the 2013 (2nd Gen) Nexus 7, thanks for the confirmation before sending out links. I would not be happy with myself if I ended up bricking this gem of a device.
TheGOAT232412 said:
I have been running CleanROM since I have been able to flash. Smooth, snappy and very stable I highly recommend the ROM to those that have not flashed it yet.
I got my Nexus 7 close to two weeks ago from Wal-Mart for an AWESOME price. They had it on sale for $125 and I had to grab it, there was no way I was going to pass up on that deal. I have only flashed CleanROM on my N7 so far and I haven't had any issues. Thanks for the links!
That's correct I do have the 2013 (2nd Gen) Nexus 7, thanks for the confirmation before sending out links. I would not be happy with myself if I ended up bricking this gem of a device.
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Clean ROM have been suspended so I recommended you to try the similar grogg's aosp .
•Hit a thanks if I helped or bringed you a smile somehow!
AnkeshReborn said:
Clean ROM have been suspended so I recommended you to try the similar grogg's aosp .
•Hit a thanks if I helped or bringed you a smile somehow!
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Thanks for the info. I'm still doing a bunch of reading trying to learn as much as I can being this is my first tablet. This device can do so much I'm trying not to get ahead of myself. If I wanted to flash a new rom/kernal what should I wipe in TWRP and in what order? Thanks in advance.
TheGOAT232412 said:
Thanks for the info. I'm still doing a bunch of reading trying to learn as much as I can being this is my first tablet. This device can do so much I'm trying not to get ahead of myself. If I wanted to flash a new rom/kernal what should I wipe in TWRP and in what order? Thanks in advance.
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Its been a month... So I assume you are sorted but in case you aren't... To ensure cleanest install, wipe data and cache through twrp then flash new ROM. This will delete your data so back it up first if there is anything you want on it.
If ROM is from same family.... You can try dirty flashing ( ie not wiping data ) but it may end in boot loop or force closes in apps... I always just wipe as it ensures clean install to give you best experience with the ROM.
Enjoy
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About roms.
Either stock/CM. I am using cm12.1 latest build on android 5.1.1 with elementalX kernel. Very smooth.
Remember:TWRP>>>>>>>CWM
Every ROM is good that I've flashed. Only had this about a week but loving it.
My phone is a lg and is a pos when it comes to **** not working with aosp
Plan on buying nothing but nexus from now on,feels weird having everything working, and working well. In a weird kinda way....
Just purchased a 2012 16gb version of the Nexus 7... Tablet is like new condition, recently upgraded to Lollipop 5.1.1... Have always heard really great things about this tablet and so far I'm not impressed!! From reading on several forums, it appears that lollipop ruined this tablet.. I have no idea since I owned it for less than 2 hours before updating to Lollipop...
So my question : Is this tablet worth rooting? Will performance improve?
Haven't rooted a device in a Looooooooooooooooooooong time... What's the best guide to achieving root and installing a custom rom?
the tablet doesn't have to be perfect but man right now, it sucks donkey balls, Facebook doesn't work at all, so I uninstalled it and it's constantly lagging or freezing..
Thank you in advance
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juanito157 said:
Have always heard really great things about this tablet
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Huh? Where did you hear that?
This tablet is infamous for having the worst NAND ever.
And yes, rooting will give this tablet a new life. Either stay stock on 4.1.x or install a custom rom with system and cache partition formatted as F2FS.
You don't really need a guide. Just get the Nexus Root toolkit and format F2FS from TWRP itself.
Harpratap said:
Huh? Where did you hear that?
This tablet is infamous for having the worst NAND ever.
And yes, rooting will give this tablet a new life. Either stay stock on 4.1.x or install a custom rom with system and cache partition formatted as F2FS.
You don't really need a guide. Just get the Nexus Root toolkit and format F2FS from TWRP itself.
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Thank you... I just decided that I wanted a tablet about a year ago.. I wanted to install a tablet in my car.. The nexus 7 is the most popular tablet next to the iPad BUT I realize now that the tablet that's always featured in the installs is the 2013 version and NOT the one I have, and mostly because of its wireless charging capabilities making optimal for installation choices... Oh well, I never wanted the wireless charging option anyway I prefer to make a slid in dock...after posting this I continued to investigate and looks like achieving root is rather simple and I hope this saves this tablet, as I said it doesn't have to be perfect just better than its been... Thank you for your reply... By the way even now when I read reviews of this tablet, the reviews ARE saying that this otherwise good tablet was ruined by lollipop
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So now I'm rooted... Trying to find out how to install cyanogenmod and custom kernel... Can anyone help? Provide a good link for Nexus 7 2012 running Android 5.1.1
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Hi there. So I've got a Nexus 7 (2012 WiFi) that I've had since launch. It's obviously quite old now and thus it's incredibly slow. I had issues updating it to the latest version of Android that was made available by Google for it to the point that I had to sideload the update using adb. Basically, the reason I even bought it in the first place was to use it as a dedicated digital comic reader. So that's kinda what I want to use it for going forward. But in its current state, it's just so slow and sketchy, I'm hoping to flash a new ROM or some kind of custom stripped-down version of Android with just the basics to extend the life of the device. The size is great and the screen still looks great, but many stock features are no longer necessary for my purposes. If anyone has any suggestions on a good way to strip down features to improve performance, or advice on a good ROM that's been known to greatly improve the performance of this dated device, that would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Hi there. So I've got a Nexus 7 (2012 WiFi) that I've had since launch. It's obviously quite old now and thus it's incredibly slow. I had issues updating it to the latest version of Android that was made available by Google for it to the point that I had to sideload the update using adb. Basically, the reason I even bought it in the first place was to use it as a dedicated digital comic reader. So that's kinda what I want to use it for going forward. But in its current state, it's just so slow and sketchy, I'm hoping to flash a new ROM or some kind of custom stripped-down version of Android with just the basics to extend the life of the device. The size is great and the screen still looks great, but many stock features are no longer necessary for my purposes. If anyone has any suggestions on a good way to strip down features to improve performance, or advice on a good ROM that's been known to greatly improve the performance of this dated device, that would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Pure Nexus +Parrot mod.
wtherrell said:
Pure Nexus +Parrot mod.
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Edit: Thanks for the response, I'll look into these.
wtherrell said:
Pure Nexus +Parrot mod.
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It's been a while since I've touched this stuff, but I recall that my Nexus 7 is rooted already. That being said, I'm not sure I remember how to Flash ROMs etc.
Could I trouble you for some help with instructions on how to achieve this?
Thanks again...
Projektor said:
It's been a while since I've touched this stuff, but I recall that my Nexus 7 is rooted already. That being said, I'm not sure I remember how to Flash ROMs etc.
Could I trouble you for some help with instructions on how to achieve this?
Thanks again...
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I know I risk the wrath of the purists here but Wugs Nexus root toolkit or the Skipsoft one are handy. If you want to truly get down to the nuts and bolts you can do as the purists suggest and use the ADB /Fastboot command interface in the Android software development kit.
You will use one of those to install a custom recovery such as TWRP. You will then download the rom (and gapps) if not already included. You may also need SuperSU to handle root management. You flash roms, gapps, etc. through TWRP.
Thanks for the response. I'm just about finished my Root + TWRP with Wug's kit.
Coming from the stock nakasi-lmy47v-factory (5.1.1)
So I think at this point, I've:
-unlocked the bootloader
-installed TWRP 3.1.0-0-grouper.img
-Rooted using SuperSU v2.79-SR3
Just based on what I've done, and my intention to flash a custom version of Pure Nexus, my rooting may have been redundant for now and will need to be done again?
I guess the next thing I need to determine is if I need to flash a new Kernel. I'm currently using 3.1.10-gf5d7b8b stock Kernel.
Oh, and decide if I should switch to F2SF.
I've successfully got Pure Nexus running with Parrot Mod installed, and it's running beautifully! I opted not to bother switching to F2FS, but may take a look in the future. Thank you so much wtherrell for all your help!