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Best Kernel for Paranoid Android

Just curious. I have about decided that Paranoid Android is going to be my rom of choice for my Nexus 7. Looking to see what kernel everyone is running and which one they think is best.

I've been using trinity for a few days with that paranoid and it has been working brilliantly, the battery life is excellent, very quick, and any instability I can definitely credit towards my inexperienced tinkering
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You can use the Franco Kernel, or otherwise (my favourite) Faux ES Kernel!

Careful with faux123 014b1/014b1es kernels
chris.wueste said:
Just curious. I have about decided that Paranoid Android is going to be my rom of choice for my Nexus 7. Looking to see what kernel everyone is running and which one they think is best.
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I also love faux123 kernels, especially 013m (or 013es if battery life is an issue). USB OTG charging works if enabled in FauxClock, very stable.However, 014b1/b1es freezes if Bluetooth is enabled and BT device connects.
Hope it helps.

Running M-Kernel - a29 here. Been trying out a few for the past couple days. Best advice I can give you: play with each one for a while and makes some notes of how your device feels with each kernel.
Also, check out this thread if you haven't already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571

ever process is different and hence react differently to kernels, try and test for urself thats the only way ull know for sure.
and for average scoring for battery and benchmarks i suggest visiting this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571

Which kernel would increase speed and numbers in quadrant standard?

xateeq said:
ever process is different and hence react differently to kernels, try and test for urself thats the only way ull know for sure.
and for average scoring for battery and benchmarks i suggest visiting this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
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This. There is no such animal as an across the board best kernel.
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I see a lot of lag and complete lockups on my Nexus 7. The only kernel I haven't seen this on is m-kernel. Just my 2 cents.
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[Q] (Q) Reccomend rom and kernel combo?

Hi you guys, I just got my nexus 4 a week ago and rooted it right away.
I have been looking through the list of roms and I honestly don't know which is right for me.
I'm looking for a STABLE rom that knows how to balance battery life and power.
I don't care too much for customization, just a little would be nice (Nothing too overbearing).
It would be if the rom just knew what it was doing, and doesn't need me to constantly tweak things.
SO in all, just the BEST reccomnded rom and kernal combo.
Thank you in advance.
EDIT: I am currently running the stock rom, and franco r53 kernel

Slimbean. Stable, no bugs. As for kernels, they all are good. I like trinity and matrix

You will get a lot of different feedback what is the best. In the end it's a matter of taste.
atm I like AOKP with faux123 kernel. I heard the Minco Rom which comes with franco kernel should be very stable and smooth. And this rom and kernel where developed and supposed to work together:
"Welcome to the cross collaboration between myself & Francisco Franco.
We're proud to announce the first and ONLY Franco supported ROM. This ROM has been built from AOSP Jelly Bean."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2061573
I don't know if you already know this "index"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975842
try some of the AOSP ROMs and see what's best for you. Since there is no best combo for everyone.

Try EVERYTHING! Every phone is different as is every person.
I could just go on about how I now swear to Trinity and AOKP, but you'll never really know the answer to your own question unless you experiment. The experimenting is the best part :3
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I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!

Notorious544d said:
I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!
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Want battery but worried about smooth? Install pimy my ROM and use a fee tweaks here and there ....
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MINCO, really lite

Sorry i didn't make this clear earlier. But i care MUCH more about battery life than performance. I use my phone constantly, wether that means texting or reddit or games. I'm sure the nexus' hardware can more than keep up with these tasks but I'm getting relatively poor battery life.

I'm a gamer I use rasbeenjelly rom and motley b31 experimental. I get better battery life and performance than stock rom.
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I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?

newtoandroid30 said:
I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?
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Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Factory stock rom and franco kernel.
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Slimbean (stable, no bugs) and Harsh kernel (smoothest kernel I've tried so far and good battery life)

reaper000 said:
Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?

galaxys said:
Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?
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That's what I'm running right now! :good:
The reason I recc'd SR5 was because I found it faster than SR6. Heck, with Matr1x 5.5ocgpu487 (which itself is marginally faster than Matr1x6), I was scoring just over 20000 on AnTuTu with SR5.
I just benched SR7.2 with Motley b31oc1678, gave a pretty nice AnTuTu score of 20900, which is the same as what SR5 gave. So I'd give a thumbs up to this combo -- it also feels as good as SR5! (Running Trinity 91L at 1728 oc'd would undoubtedly bump that above 21000, but I couldn't tell the difference between running Trinity at 1728 and Motley at 1678 in daily use)
Do have to say that Rasbean Jelly and Trinity 91L was blinding fast, very noticeable in regular use; totally supports the >23000 AnTuTu score. (But I can't tell that big a difference between that combo and Liquidsmooth 3.2, which is unsupported by its 19000 benchmark. Yet another reason why I feel benchmarks are somewhat worthless when compared between entirely different ROMs)
It's all really subjective; objective tests like benchmarks are so confounded that only data mongers like me bother to use them :silly:

With Motleys I get 16000 at 1024
19500 at 1242 but then the increase is negligible. 22500 at 1642 for me.
I have been runing at 1024 and every game is perfect. Undervolted to 650 at 1024
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[Q]Which ROM would you recommend?

Hey guys,
I just recently got my Nexus 10 and after making sure everything is fine with it I want to go ahead and root it.
Since I'm using a HTC Sensation as my phone I know how much a good ROM can improve the user experience and I'm looking for a nice ROM with good battery life.
Normally it's pretty easy to find a thread with a poll, or suggestions etc. but I'm out of luck when it comes to the N10 - haven't found anything yet.
Which ROM would you recommend as a good starting point to try out?

Rather than a poll or suggestions, it'll be better if you try it out different ROMs on your own since most ROMs here are fairly stable. Just remember to read their features and stuff..
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Personally I recommend starting with CM. They have the easiest to use custom interface and pretty much everything just works fantastic. PA has gobs of customization but it is far from the smoothest experience on the N10. I personally just don't like AOKP.
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Try a few to see what you like. Personally, I'd go with the latest AOKP PUB build. TONS of customization options, extremely stable, and the PUB extras make it smoother and faster.

I have run most of the ROMs and I prefer TeamEOS followed by AOKP. They both have built in custom optional tweaks.
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Rodeojones said:
Try a few to see what you like. Personally, I'd go with the latest AOKP PUB build. TONS of customization options, extremely stable, and the PUB extras make it smoother and faster.
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This ! if you like the customizations that AOKP offers try Mr.Robinsons AOKP PUB (Project Unicorn Butter).
I have to say i was a little bit disappointment with CM 10.1 on the manta, using it on my I9100 since almost 1.5 years.
In My Opinion AOKP PUB works better on our Device

Thanks for the replys guys, it's a lot easier for me to know which threads to look for now, thank you!

addicted1900 said:
This ! if you like the customizations that AOKP offers try Mr.Robinsons AOKP PUB (Project Unicorn Butter).
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I'm using that one too, and it's great. And if you pair it with KTManta kernel you get a pretty customizable set up.

I don't know why, but Mr Robinson's was a bit of a nightmare for me. I tried twice (clean install) but each time one of my favorite apps, FX Explorer, would lock up when trying to set up/access remote locations and then the N10 would just reboot. It happened repeatedly whether I used TiBU to restore data or installed fresh from the Store. This doesn't happen with the AOKP (mr1, build 6) I'm on now. The final straw, though, was rebooting from recovery (didn't do anything, went in and changed my mind) and couldn't get past the lock screen.
Anyone have an idea what the hell was going on?
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bruce7373 said:
I don't know why, but Mr Robinson's was a bit of a nightmare for me. I tried twice (clean install) but each time one of my favorite apps, FX Explorer, would lock up when trying to set up/access remote locations and then the N10 would just reboot. It happened repeatedly whether I used TiBU to restore data or installed fresh from the Store. This doesn't happen with the AOKP (mr1, build 6) I'm on now. The final straw, though, was rebooting from recovery (didn't do anything, went in and changed my mind) and couldn't get past the lock screen.
Anyone have an idea what the hell was going on?
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¿Did you happen to select the KTManta kernel during the installation?.

Arcano said:
¿Did you happen to select the KTManta kernel during the installation?.
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I didn't do Aroma, just flashed the ROM, so didn't touch the kernal. It's the one from the (official?) JB-mr1-build 6 ROM. Was that a mistake?
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I like Paranoidandroid for nexus 10. Gives you full tablet ui
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My favorite ROM's (in no particular order) are EOS, Rasbeanjelly, and CyanogenMod

bruce7373 said:
I didn't do Aroma, just flashed the ROM, so didn't touch the kernal. It's the one from the (official?) JB-mr1-build 6 ROM. Was that a mistake?
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No, I asked because I had instability problems with that kernel, until I found out they were caused by improper gpu voltages.
But wiith the stock kernel and Mr.Robinson's rom my Nexus was rock solid, so I can't help you there.

I prefer AOKP ROM, because he faster that stock, he has many settings and very customize. Also he has good performance at games and benchmarks.

I decided to try the AOKP Pub by mrRobinson and I'm very satisfied so far
Might try Paranoid next, or I'll just stick with this one for a while - we'll see. You just have so many options to play around with on an Android device... it's beautiful.
Current look

stock rom or custom rom?

Hi,
I' m new Nexus 4 users. I used Galaxy S3 and install cm 10.1 to my s3. I buy Nexus 4 because I like real android but now I'm not sure about root/install my Nexus 4. Because Nexus 4 is real android (UI). What is your advice and idea?

I came from the Galaxy S and the Galaxy Note and ran custom ROMs on both, honestly some of them were buggy (specially the note) and now that I been using the Nexus 4 I haven't rooted yet because I am enjoying stock android plus key lime pie is just around the corner, my advice is to run it stock, enjoy KLP and maybe rooted later.
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I stayed stock because it's my first time having a true stock phone. Might go ROM route in the future, but haven't seen anything that makes me need to.

I want to keep stock rom but I like some features on cm 10.1 Sometimes I said let's root and stop again huhh

selimozbas said:
Hi,
I' m new Nexus 4 users. I used Galaxy S3 and install cm 10.1 to my s3. I buy Nexus 4 because I like real android but now I'm not sure about root/install my Nexus 4. Because Nexus 4 is real android (UI). What is your advice and idea?
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If you can't find a reason to root, then you have your answer.
I wanted to adjust my quick settings tiles, install themes and have a T9 dialer, therefore I rooted and flashed. Everyone is different.
rojiblanko14 said:
I came from the Galaxy S and the Galaxy Note and ran custom ROMs on both, honestly some of them were buggy (specially the note) and now that I been using the Nexus 4 I haven't rooted yet because I am enjoying stock android plus key lime pie is just around the corner, my advice is to run it stock, enjoy KLP and maybe rooted later.
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Since the Nexus 4 is in AOSP and the majority of the ROMs are compiled you won't have the rampant bug issues here. Just an FYI.

i rooted, and keep stock, then after a while i flashed a new kernal, i wanted root, for a few reasons, like block ad's t9 dialer, but yeah stock rom is good for me.

Run it stock and revisit if/when you notice something lacking. The factory images are great, and I happily run stock when new images drop.
You've run CM10.1 so you know what custom ROMs can offer. Typically custom ROMs can/will be much less buggy on a Nexus since AOSP typically doesn't face any issues on this device.

Thank you for the answers. I think i keep stock rom. Maybe future...
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For all of you that are on stock theirs a ROM that's truly worth trying it called liquid smooth
i get amazing speed,smoothness,awesome battery life ,and infinite customization i have tried just about every ROM
on and its my favorite.

As much as stock is decent I dislike it, no T9 and such. Rooting allows me to install a custom rom and root apps. I generally lower the height of the navigation bar to gain more screen estate, and such, they run just as well as stock.
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Thespmex13 said:
For all of you that are on stock theirs a ROM that's truly worth trying it called liquid smooth
i get amazing speed,smoothness,awesome battery life ,and infinite customization i have tried just about every ROM
on and its my favorite.
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You are right. I tried more custom rom on sgs3 but i like real android so i sell my sgs3 and buy nexus 4.
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Check out Paranoid Android 3+ (link is in my signature. IMO best custom ROM out there.
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I flashed a few ROM's already but I went back to stock with a custom kernel.
But I have to admit the liquidsmooth rom keeps calling me back. I might just make that my daily runner.
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shook187 said:
I flashed a few ROM's already but I went back to stock with a custom kernel.
But I have to admit the liquidsmooth rom keeps calling me back. I might just make that my daily runner.
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I agree with you man ive flashed a couple roms and went back to stock with custom kernel buy i tried liquid smooth with matrix kernel 8.5 and wow ive been blown away so smooth and EXCELLENT battery life you should try its my daily driver now lol

EliteAstro said:
I agree with you man ive flashed a couple roms and went back to stock with custom kernel buy i tried liquid smooth with matrix kernel 8.5 and wow ive been blown away so smooth and EXCELLENT battery life you should try its my daily driver now lol
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Since I have the my Nexus I am running CM 10.1 M3, I am moreless satisfied, but I should try Liquid ROM
Have you been on CM any time - to compare these ROMs?

I was on stock for like forever I didn't see the point of changing, what else could I possibly need?
Then I installed LiquidSmooth. Wow. Dunno how I did without it, plenty smooth, fast and customisable.
Do a nandroid and try it, you'll not regret it!
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Spec-Chum said:
I was on stock for like forever I didn't see the point of changing, what else could I possibly need?
Then I installed LiquidSmooth. Wow. Dunno how I did without it, plenty smooth, fast and customisable.
Do a nandroid and try it, you'll not regret it!
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Considering how many people recommend the superb LiquidSmooth how the heck can it only have 2 votes here? And one of them is me!
Come on guys and gals, visit their thread and rate 5 stars to give it the recognition it deserves!

nexus is the only device where you wanna install a rom. legacy rom scene is rom hell, we're talking hacks, ports, mashups, frankenstein roms made of bits and pieces to get around missing sources and whatnot.
nexus is supported by google, that means developers get to compile actual aosp. google supplies tools, drivers, kernels, blobs, pretty much everything. a developer that compiles here basically creates stock android. and instead of pissing away time with hacks you can actually make features and worry about things that matter. its unlikely to create severe bugs unless you really try hard to mess with androids internals. some extra features may not be cooked through but thats the same with stock and its revisional bugs.

[Q] Which rom are you using and why?

Ordered a nexus 10 32gb on ebay and trynna see which rom people are having best battery life/performance....
[Q] Which rom are you using and why?

jyouri said:
Ordered a nexus 10 32gb on ebay and trynna see which rom people are having best battery life/performance....
[Q] Which rom are you using and why?
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Stock, because all the ROMs I've tried have been buggy and don't offer a great deal of additional functionality. I do have high hopes for PA though, once thier multi-window is finished. I have rooted the tablet though, mainly for the aosp browser.

I haven't had any real bugs with CM and PA, but AOKP has some weird theming bugs with settings not taking.
I use Pacman, which has CM, PA, and AOKP... All in one package.
KTManta kernel is hands-down my favorite kernel, as well.

PA was put on my Nexus straight away since I detest the phablet look, but now they're adding other things such as halo which is great. Plus PA makes mes want a Nexus 4 to get the most out of it on my phone too.

Carter0108 said:
PA was put on my Nexus straight away since I detest the phablet look, but now they're adding other things such as halo which is great. Plus PA makes mes want a Nexus 4 to get the most out of it on my phone too.
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PA is nice and a great ROM, but if you need performance, sadly, it sucks. I haven't tried the latest build with halo, but on 3.15 the performance is really bad on games.

I use PA for the Hybrid engine. It is truly brilliant. I get very few errors in terms of performance and the tablet crashes occasionally but it's worth it--especially for Halo alone. Hopefully they will start to develop the Halo functionality in regards to tablets having multi-window rather than stacked Halo processes.
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Mmuzzy's rom. Close to stock, rooted, with a couple little tweaks. Check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2071082

Rasbeanjelly + franco.Kernel
Not a ton of customization, lightweight, fast and optimized. And can use the same combination across all my devices (N4, N7, and N10).
I never used PA, but have heard quite a few reports of it being somewhat on the worse-side for performance.

Carbon ROM, felt the smoothest for me and had all the customizations I needed. A second for me would be Sentinel ROM. I guess it depends on what your main preference is. If its AOSP (stock), PA, cyanogen, or AOKP. They all offer something different. The best way is try a ROM and see if you are comfortable with the usage of that ROM. Also Kernel can also help play a role in your ROM choice.

I use the last RasSaber build, dont know where it is available anymore though. It gives me enough of the customization that I want, a nice built in theme, and very smooth performance with great battery life. For kernel I use the KTManta kernel because it offers the best battery life through undervolting and also gives me the best performance. Lots of fun options with it if your into that sort of thing.

Can you please share the rom if you have the package ? I dont find it neighter
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I like EOS ROM + Trinity kernel for outstanding performance and just the right amount of features I need.
But rasbeanjelly, RasSaber, Sabermod, and Sentinel are all top notch in my book.

purmou said:
I use PA for the Hybrid engine. It is truly brilliant. I get very few errors in terms of performance and the tablet crashes occasionally but it's worth it--especially for Halo alone. Hopefully they will start to develop the Halo functionality in regards to tablets having multi-window rather than stacked Halo processes.
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PA was put on my Nexus straight away since I detest the phablet look, but now they're adding other things such as halo which is great. Plus PA makes mes want a Nexus 4 to get the most out of it on my phone too.
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And by PA you guys are reffering to Paranandroid right?

So would you recommend sticking to rooted stock rom? Is that stablet enough for Battery/Gaming/OverallPerformance

You can if you want to, but you can get more performance on custom stuff. Or less performance but a LOT more features if you choose ParanoidAndroid.

EniGmA1987 said:
You can if you want to, but you can get more performance on custom stuff. Or less performance but a LOT more features if you choose ParanoidAndroid.
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Except for the sound settings being broken, PACman has plenty of features.
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Someone should do a performance check on PAC ROM. If it has all these features from different ROMs, including P.A. then it *should* also have similar performance right? Would be pretty weird if another dev who ported Paranoid Android features got it working way better when mixed with even more things on top.
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Can you please share the rom if you have the package ? I dont find it neighter
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Not sure if this was directed to me from my post right before this. Ill assume it was since it was about a ROM that wasnt available anymore. Anyway, Seems it is everyone's lucky day because we now have a new build of RasSaber avalable so people can download it again
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=manta-rassaber

EniGmA1987 said:
Someone should do a performance check on PAC ROM. If it has all these features from different ROMs, including P.A. then it *should* also have similar performance right? Would be pretty weird if another dev who ported Paranoid Android features got it working way better when mixed with even more things on top.
Not sure if this was directed to me from my post right before this. Ill assume it was since it was about a ROM that wasnt available anymore. Anyway, Seems it is everyone's lucky day because we now have a new build of RasSaber avalable so people can download it again
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=manta-rassaber
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What should I check it with? I'm up for it
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I prefer AOKP PUB builds.