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Thinking about going back to stock AOSP rom

The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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chubb16 said:
The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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Stock 2.3.4 is great stability wise and has tremendous battery life.

Iv been running zuluzulu for about a week now and it flies. Great battery life although I am a heavy user. I haven't experienced random reboots at all with it. Also if you like the notification power widget from cm7 its built into zuluzulu.
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chubb16 said:
The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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Try AdamG's oxygen ROM and you'll never want the stock ROM again. It isn't built on cm7, it's based on aosp ROM.
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I'm on oxygen now. Really a nice rom. I had opensoju downloaded too, but I went with oxygen.
But I do miss the rotary lockscreen on cm, with the messaging shortcut in the middle.
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lvnatic said:
Try AdamG's oxygen ROM and you'll never want the stock ROM again. It isn't built on cm7, it's based on aosp ROM.
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Agreed. AdamG's Oxygen Rom is my favourite right now. It's AOSP GRJ22 with some of the great features from CyanogenMOD built in (status bar power widget, improved widget picker, etc) and fantastic battery life!

A stable cm 7.1 (2.34) will be out very soon. No worries
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With many devices over many years, I've consistently found that stock firmware is more stable and functional than enthusiast-developed firmware.
I have literally never found an enthusiast-developed firmware that doesn't have at least some minor interface glitches. Most have some problem that's major enough that after a few hours of playing I revert to stock.
Occasionally I will run something other than stock, but that is typically after the device has aged to the point that this is the only way to get a feature. By that point, it's usually time to replace the device, anyway.

chubb16 said:
I'm on oxygen now. Really a nice rom. I had opensoju downloaded too, but I went with oxygen.
But I do miss the rotary lockscreen on cm, with the messaging shortcut in the middle.
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You can add that stuff with Widget Locker.
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mstevens said:
With many devices over many years, I've consistently found that stock firmware is more stable and functional than enthusiast-developed firmware.
I have literally never found an enthusiast-developed firmware that doesn't have at least some minor interface glitches. Most have some problem that's major enough that after a few hours of playing I revert to stock.
Occasionally I will run something other than stock, but that is typically after the device has aged to the point that this is the only way to get a feature. By that point, it's usually time to replace the device, anyway.
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I agree in general, but of course there are exception. When I had an HTC Evo 4G, I ended up running CM6 as my daily and it was exceptionally stable. At least as good as stock HTC Sense. Unfortunately when Gingerbread came around, that changed, and CM7 was not in the same ballpark.
On my Nexus, though... yeah I run stock ROM. CM7 is cool and if I had any other device (that came with a carrier OS and not pure Android), I would dump that shiz and rock CM7 for sure. But plain pure stock Android developed by a team of amazing developers specifically for this device, that's just not going to be beat

Hah. Google's "official" code isn't really better then what rom devs provide if they know what they're doing. The way google keeps pushing buggy code without giving a s*** is really disappointing. They release updates and then they stop caring about it. As some pointed out the gb update brought call delay and broke aac support, it really seems like they don't even do some basic testing before releasing a new version (which even the crappiest developer on the block generally does). On top of that, there is still no support at all for gpu acceleration in the ui, which is kinda retarded. Day after day i'm getting more and more disappointed about google dev team's job, they don't really deserve half the respect that many geeks keep tributing them.

Stock vs Custom rom on the NS was something I always thought about too! I only ran stock for a few hours because I immediately flashed a new rom when I got my phone LOL But what I can remember from the stock 2.3.4 was that it was fast, faster than any phone I've ever had. But there are so many features that are incorporated in custom roms and it's really hard to forgo these things.
Anyone out there who has used both stock 2.3.4 and oxygen who can attest to better battery life and performance? I am curious as well.
The last phone I used for a long time running stock was my N1 but after flashing CM6 I never really looked back. Speed increase was very noticeable and battery life was better. This is the reason why I never really bothered to use stock software for my next phones.

well, to be honest, i kinda regret to be flashed customs. Stock is so stable and has so good battery life, but now i can't live without cm7 features, just can't...
it's sad story that shows that you can't miss what you don't know! =oP

I agree for the most part, stock gb is pretty good. Using Oxygen now, and the stability and speed from stock + some nice features makes it a good choice!
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Is there really a difference?? Especially when compared to a bare bones aosp build like oxygen?

kingofthebraves said:
Is there really a difference?? Especially when compared to a bare bones aosp build like oxygen?
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In the case of Oxygen not much difference but I believe CM pretty much guts the framework and replaces it with their own heavily modded version.

does facebook sync work on all ASOP roms? or is it just CM7?

Just wondering - does CM 7 for Nexus S still have the video capture glitch where a couple of seconds are skipped near the beginning when played back?

dsixda said:
Just wondering - does CM 7 for Nexus S still have the video capture glitch where a couple of seconds are skipped near the beginning when played back?
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tested right now and couldn't notice... if there is any, it's less than 1sec!

Is there really a point?

I'm going to pick up a nexus 7 soon but i'd just like to ask a question.
Is there really a point loading custom roms and kernels?
I know OC is not necassary but it i cool but seriously, whats the point of custom roms and kernels over all when you have a device that is going to get all the updates straight from google for a very long time in which we will not need to port to this device and also this game can run any game with spectacular performance and no lagg. And thanks to project butter as well.
So is there really a reason? Can you please tell me why?
And by the way do you need root to install free apks?

I've had Android devices for two years and always flashed custom ROMs and kernels. Once I got an N7 I was so impressed with the speed I thought the same thing. After a few days I flashed _motley's kernel and it made it even faster, I was still using the stock ROM though. A few hours ago, I flashed glazed jelly donut which is fast as all hell.
By all means, ROMs and kernels aren't necessary, yet you have a Nexus device so why the hell not?

brando56894 said:
I've had Android devices for two years and always flashed custom ROMs and kernels. Once I got an N7 I was so impressed with the speed I thought the same thing. After a few days I flashed _motley's kernel and it made it even faster, I was still using the stock ROM though. A few hours ago, I flashed glazed jelly donut which is fast as all hell.
By all means, ROMs and kernels aren't necessary, yet you have a Nexus device so why the hell not?
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Yeah your right.
But what i'm just confused on is which rom or kernel is the best

I'm sticking with the stock ROM but I have it heavily modded.
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Ftwisawesome said:
I'm going to pick up a nexus 7 soon but i'd just like to ask a question.
Is there really a point loading custom roms and kernels?
I know OC is not necassary but it i cool but seriously, whats the point of custom roms and kernels over all when you have a device that is going to get all the updates straight from google for a very long time in which we will not need to port to this device and also this game can run any game with spectacular performance and no lagg. And thanks to project butter as well.
So is there really a reason? Can you please tell me why?
And by the way do you need root to install free apks?
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Your mis informed if you think the Nexus 7 doesn't lag in games at stock.Play a game like spiderman with a fps program running on your nexus .. it's a joke at stock speeds. Even the update for PuddleTHD causes major stutter on some new maps added. The list could go on and on .. Asphalt 7 is another game that at stock speeds is a joke...
Custom roms takes off bloatware and adds features and enhances that bring out the true potential of the tablet.
I'm loving the new features of the CM10 Jelly Bean ROM + Motley Kernel . The added landscape mode is especially useful at the home screen... The pro's of adding a custom rom to your table is endless.

There's really no reason to flash a new ROM. Flash a new kernel and over clock it.
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tribestros said:
There's really no reason to flash a new ROM. Flash a new kernel and over clock it.
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Depends on the user really. I could list a 100 reasons why I choose a newer rom over stock.
But instead I'll list my top 4 I noticed right off the bat going to CM10;
1.)increased stability
2.)No bloatware
3).reponsiveness..touch screen especially
4.) increased boot times

Increased boot times would mean that it takes longer to boot?
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tribestros said:
There's really no reason to flash a new ROM. Flash a new kernel and over clock it.
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Well, a second advantage of a custom ROM is to add new features, e.g. navigation/notification bar customizations, theming, lock screen options, that aren't present in the stock ROM. It really beats me why the google team hasn't been rushing to kang all the CM, for example, features (Apple et al would be even more left in the dust), but I guess that's bureaucracy for you.

thebobp said:
Well, a second advantage of a custom ROM is to add new features, e.g. navigation/notification bar customizations, theming, lock screen options, that aren't present in the stock ROM. It really beats me why the google team hasn't been rushing to kang all the CM, for example, features (Apple et al would be even more left in the dust), but I guess that's bureaucracy for you.
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Perhaps it's a complexity thing? Google are keeping the Nexus deliberately simple; let manufacturers build their own themes and skins, let the community do the same. But a lot of people getting the Nexus 7 on Christmas Day won't want to know about what modifications could be done to their N7, right..?

Let me play devils advocate. How many who report improved performance, whether it's the touch screen, graphics or other, have validate that perception with hard evidence?
Don't get me wrong, and please try and avoid the flaming. I've nothing against flashing new ROM's or kernals as I've done it with my Fire. I'm just curious.

dferrey said:
Let me play devils advocate. How many who report improved performance, whether it's the touch screen, graphics or other, have validate that perception with hard evidence?
Don't get me wrong, and please try and avoid the flaming. I've nothing against flashing new ROM's or kernals as I've done it with my Fire. I'm just curious.
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The only real performance improvement is overclocking. Anything else is just placebo in my book.

glenn37216 said:
Depends on the user really. I could list a 100 reasons why I choose a newer rom over stock.
But instead I'll list my top 4 I noticed right off the bat going to CM10;
1.)increased stability
2.)No bloatware
3).reponsiveness..touch screen especially
4.) increased boot times
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Bloat ware? Isn't this a nexus device?
Where got lost ware?

mtxx1 said:
Bloat ware? Isn't this a nexus device?
Where got lost ware?
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What you call bloat and what I call bloat may be different.
G+, Talk, Magazines, Korean Keyboard--All bloat to me. I won't use any of those.
If I ever needed them, I could always re-d/l from the play store. I don't need it built in.
Movies, debatable for me. After watching the free movie, I'll probably never use it again.

brando56894 said:
I've had Android devices for two years and always flashed custom ROMs and kernels. Once I got an N7 I was so impressed with the speed I thought the same thing. After a few days I flashed _motley's kernel and it made it even faster, I was still using the stock ROM though. A few hours ago, I flashed glazed jelly donut which is fast as all hell.
By all means, ROMs and kernels aren't necessary, yet you have a Nexus device so why the hell not?
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I'm thinking of doing the same as you. Only thing holding me back is that most ROMs I've tried are buggy, at least a tiny bit. I'm on stock ROM with trinity kernel, doing just fine. Don't play many games, so performance bumps aren't necessary for me.
Does removing G+ and such really do all that much? I don't use them, so I figured they'd just be dormant somewhere. Do they slow the system down that much?
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glenn37216 said:
Your mis informed if you think the Nexus 7 doesn't lag in games at stock.Play a game like spiderman with a fps program running on your nexus .. it's a joke at stock speeds. Even the update for PuddleTHD causes major stutter on some new maps added. The list could go on and on .. Asphalt 7 is another game that at stock speeds is a joke...
Custom roms takes off bloatware and adds features and enhances that bring out the true potential of the tablet.
I'm loving the new features of the CM10 Jelly Bean ROM + Motley Kernel . The added landscape mode is especially useful at the home screen... The pro's of adding a custom rom to your table is endless.
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Those games are not optimized for Tegra 3 (except of course Puddle) and there are numerous posts about them.
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Are most Nexus users Flashing new ROMs or staying stock???

Please say which you prefer and why. And if you are using a custom ROM please explain why you choose that specific ROM. I'm currently stock and wondering if I should flash at this point. Thank you!
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I flashed Paranoid Android because I don't like the "phablet" interface on the 10 inch screen, and PA allows you to change the interface.
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Stock with root. Might look at/try some other in the future but I don't have any issues/problems with stock to need a change.

Stock rooted or paranoid rom so you can change to traditional tablet layout. Ive tried all the roms. The 2 ive mentioned are my favs
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Stock, not even bothered rooting. Haven't really found any need to fiddle with the thing. But then again it is my first tablet so i have no prior bias so to speak, so maybe i'm just not aware of what it is inferior to, but it doen't bother me, because it does it's job just dandy.

Running PA here because I like the tablet UI. Considering trying AOKP in a bit.

im currently rooted, on stock. Will be heading over to Paranoid Android. They're by far the best rom i have experienced, allowing you to customise your apps, layout, etc more than i have known. All of my other devices are on PA.

I am running craigacgomez AOSP Rom for the stock like feel with added benefits:
1. Expanded desktop for watching movies and gaming
2. Built in OTG works great
3. Undervolting kernel for cooler temps and battery life.
4. Logitech unifying receiver support
5. Better pull down settings and better reboot options.
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Stock, unlocked, rooted for now, TWRP installed. Also using APEX Pro launcher. The whole thing is already slippery smooth and responsive, APEX is great with this. I want to try stock for a while and get familiar with it so I'll have a basis for comparison if/when I try a custom ROM. On my GNex, custom ROMs were much more important to me, as the stock experience was "ok" but not great. Finding the right kernel and ROM has made the GNex great. I'm finding the N10 great already on stock 4.2.1, and I expect to keep it stock for a while -- I'll keep following ROM and kernel dev for it, but for the moment, I've got no strong urge to start flashing it yet although I fully expect to down the road.

I'm on the CM10.1 preview. I wanted a little more customization over stock, and I'm a CM junky.

Rooted stock right now. I will probably start trying some roms soon, if I don't return this replacement for the light bleed.
I'm kind of surprised there aren't more roms for the Nexus 10 than there are right now. Is it just not that popular or what?

Paranoid Android for true Tablet UI

CM 10.1 nightlies here

Stock everything + rooted.
On my GNex, I'm running BB, so I'm more for stability than packing features.

Stock

Unlocked/rooted/stock. I haven't found the need to try ROMs yet. When I get bored with stock or find something I can't do, then I will try some ROMs. Root is a necessity....Stickmount, Titanium Backup and Adaway. I am enjoying the tablet though, way better then my Tab 10.1

Root and Stock...
Might give "craigacgomez AOSP " a try in January.

Unlocked rooted stock don't find the need to try any custom Roms.
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Well, I ran stock for a total of 15 mins... I've been mostly on my AOSP+ ROM (duh!!)... but I've used CM10.1, AOKP & Evervolv as well... haven't tried PA yet... I love the new Android UI with the split pull downs and separate status & nav bars...

Ran stock rooted for the better part of a week, then jumped to the 1/1 CM10.1 nightly as soon as I read about the Chronus lockscreen widget.
Full disclosure: I'm running CM10.1 on my Galaxy Nexus, too. Synergy...

Just ordered N4

Hey I just ordered my nexus 4. Just a quick question, which custom rom most resembles the stock one that the n4 comes with but with better tweaks and battery life?
Coming from an s3 and I've always used a touchwiz based custom rom.
So I would like to stay with the rom that most is similar to the one the n4 comes with. Ty
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Probably Primerunner under Nexus 4 Android Development. Seems pretty stock but with some enhancements.
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MiNCO v6 ROM resembles the stock ROM. No customizations.
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All of them resemble stock. They're all themed the same, it's just a matter of added features while maintaining the same look as stock.
I don't get what you're trying to get at op. It's not like s3 roms where everybody is trying to theme their rom. A lot of roms on n4 aren't themed, some are but most are left it's holo look.
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zephiK said:
All of them resemble stock. They're all themed the same, it's just a matter of added features while maintaining the same look as stock.
I don't get what you're trying to get at op. It's not like s3 roms where everybody is trying to theme their rom. A lot of roms on n4 aren't themed, some are but most are left it's holo look.
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I guess... From a stability point of view... To be as stable as the stock.
I've ran cm10.1 and cm10...Along with some other aokp roms on my s3 before and of course it's not as stable as the stock tw rom.
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Minco
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All the ROMs should be very stable since they are all based on the same AOSP code. This is very different from a non-Nexus phone where custom ROMs might be less stable.
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Don't want to create new thread so will ask here as I'm also coming from S3...
Are the any major bugs with CM rom? With the S3, Picassa sync and Bluetooth didn't work...I'm assuming with the N4 everything should be more or less 100%?

steviewevie said:
All the ROMs should be very stable since they are all based on the same AOSP code. This is very different from a non-Nexus phone where custom ROMs might be less stable.
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Yeah that makes sense... Thanks.
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Crisisx1 said:
I guess... From a stability point of view... To be as stable as the stock.
I've ran cm10.1 and cm10...Along with some other aokp roms on my s3 before and of course it's not as stable as the stock tw rom.
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Well the difference is that this is NEXUS device and is AOSP supported. So 99.9% of the ROMs that come out for this phone are stable. They're not stable on the S3 for AOKP/CM right away because they have to actually do work to make it work; whereas, N4 is AOSP supported and its like.. BAM! it works out of the box. As for S3, the phone ships out with TouchWiz. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP requires work to make everything work.
I'd say CM/AOKP are pretty stable overall. All ROMs are stable. This is one of the many benefits of having a Nexus device and I don't believe in when people are wanting to upgrade and people say "oh just get a S3.. it doesnt have latest but just flash a custom rom and you'll be on latest android) no it doesn't work that way just because of like what you said... instablity. When Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) comes out, N4 will be one of the first devices to launch with it and we'll have the most stable ROM day one without having to rework code to make all the functionalities like calling, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, Screen Rotation, Data, etc to work (I know on other phones, people release dirty ROMs and things like what I listed don't work as of yet until its fixed)
Shopping for a ROM/Kernel is like shopping for a car. Some tips to take,
1) Browse the original and android dev forums. Search around and look for whats interesting.
2) Find it interesting? Read OP post and the past 6-7 posts (dont even read it.. skim through it for feedback)
3) Like what you see? Check for screenshots or even a YouTube video
4) Still like it? Flash it and try it
and most of all, ENJOY.

zephiK said:
Well the difference is that this is NEXUS device and is AOSP supported. So 99.9% of the ROMs that come out for this phone are stable. They're not stable on the S3 for AOKP/CM right away because they have to actually do work to make it work; whereas, N4 is AOSP supported and its like.. BAM! it works out of the box. As for S3, the phone ships out with TouchWiz. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP requires work to make everything work.
I'd say CM/AOKP are pretty stable overall. All ROMs are stable. This is one of the many benefits of having a Nexus device and I don't believe in when people are wanting to upgrade and people say "oh just get a S3.. it doesnt have latest but just flash a custom rom and you'll be on latest android) no it doesn't work that way just because of like what you said... instablity. When Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) comes out, N4 will be one of the first devices to launch with it and we'll have the most stable ROM day one without having to rework code to make all the functionalities like calling, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, Screen Rotation, Data, etc to work (I know on other phones, people release dirty ROMs and things like what I listed don't work as of yet until its fixed)
Shopping for a ROM/Kernel is like shopping for a car. Some tips to take,
1) Browse the original and android dev forums. Search around and look for whats interesting.
2) Find it interesting? Read OP post and the past 6-7 posts (dont even read it.. skim through it for feedback)
3) Like what you see? Check for screenshots or even a YouTube video
4) Still like it? Flash it and try it
and most of all, ENJOY.
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Great reply... awesome, makes a lot more sense now. Thank you. I can't wait til my N4 arrives : )))
I've been reading at other threads about people complaining about quick battery drain and the screen not looking too good... I hope that isn't the case with me.. but I'm pretty sure a custom rom and kernel can fix all of that.

Crisisx1 said:
Great reply... awesome, makes a lot more sense now. Thank you. I can't wait til my N4 arrives : )))
I've been reading at other threads about people complaining about quick battery drain and the screen not looking too good... I hope that isn't the case with me.. but I'm pretty sure a custom rom and kernel can fix all of that.
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Quick battery drain. Hmmmm, you will probably notice that battery won't be good until at least 2-3 charge cycles. Why?
1. You just got the phone, obviously you're going to be playing with the phone. Downloading apps, changing settings, setting up your home screen etc.
2. It takes time for the phone to get its charging cycle.
3. Stock kernel has the msm wakelock. Fixed in a future OTA.
Screen looks great. I don't have any problems. But yes you are right, custom kernel does fix #3 and you can alter your colors until it satisfy your eyes. Stock values are good enough for me. It looks A LOT better than Samsung's Super AMOLED, I came from a Galaxy Nexus.

Custom roms, but why?

So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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mcarbaja said:
So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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jamal777 said:
Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast

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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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Actually I have gotten way better battery life on stock but that's just me
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Customization is key for a lot of people who try custom ROMs. Kernels give some great features as well. We have excellent ROM and kernel devs so its really nice. The Nexus 4 is considered a "dev" phone by a lot of people so why not take advantage of the awesome support we have!
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Moot*
Also, have you tried EVERY kernel? Harsh keeps close to stock, but adds newer patches and fixes, as well as the ability to change gamma. He still uses mpdecision, which retains the stock snappiness.
OP, using custom ROMs lets you have the latest version of Android + all the cool extras.
T9 dialer, Pie and battery percentage are three VERY popular ones. Mind you, there are ways to add these to the stock ROM, but at that point it's not stock.

one word - COLORS

Run stock as long as you happily can. Keep an eye on the more popular custom ROM threads to see if there's any one, or more, features that you absolutely can't live without, if you're at all interested.
You're running a great ROM already and too many people jump into the ring without doing enough research.

The one thing I can't live without is hiding nav bar,
ok, two things, Touch Control.... Since stock kernel disabled it I had to use a custom kernel. Besides it's old habit. I was a Franco kernel user since Galaxy Nexus.

1. The software buttons can take up a lot of space after the status bar is included. Makes the screen feel less like 4.7"
2. The stock colors really are washed out. Modifying the gamma can get you extremely attractive colors.
3. I like being able to have a flashlight and my hotspot a touch away and having custom tiles proves awesome for that.
4. When you're playing Real Racing 3 and your girlfriend texts you, its kind of a pain in the butt to switch windows . The pie in my ROM let's me read and respond to my notifications on the fly.
5. Aesthetics. The boot animation, custom app color recommendations and artwork in general are just awesome on Paranoid Android 3.1. Cooler than Holo at times
6. Better sound. By default the volume on this sucks but now I've installed Xloud it's just right.
But in the end this is a Nexus device. Works just peachy off the bat but coming from the developer concept series from Google, they don't expect you to take it as is. Different strokes for different folks. 4.2.2 is as is. If you want more though the Nexus is the cornocopia of ROM development. Every big league ROM originates here. Another reason to love it among the rest .
Just my two cents
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CyanogenMod and Stock Kernel
In my opinion the best way to go is CyanogenMod gives you a lot more customization and the battery life, ram speed and CPU clock is perfectly fine so there's no need to get a custom kernel.

Custom rom allows you to control your phone however your want.
As for me, i am using PA Rom. The reason I choose PA because it has some nice tweaks and customization.
- Battery Percentage
- Customizable Lockscreen
- Quick Settings Panel Customization
- Custom color for apps :>
- Volume Button tweaks
- Full Screen (Pie)

All about me.
Customization!!!!!!! I really liked having a top of the line device, except for the crap sound, washed out colors and lack of options. Using P.A.C. Rom with the franco Kernel it seems like a whole new phone. There is almost no end to what I can tweak or modify on my phone. The addition of Awesome Beats and Noozxoide made my phone sound crazy good. Everyones phone is totally their own. No 2 are alike because you can personalize everything. If i wanted the same phone as everyone else I would have bought an Iphone. Once you start flashing you will find it hard to stop. Enjoy the power of Stock for a while and then come to the darkside and you will never want to go back to stock.

There are aspects of custom ROMs and kernels in general that give you an increased fluidity. The nexus 4 is beastly and honestly I run full stock right now until I somehow get bored with its performance and want to Rev the CPU/GPU to its limit
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Much more features, tweaks and customization.

R: Custom roms, but why?
Features and tweaks. Customization.
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Running stock or my modification of it lol. Stock 4.2.2, Root, Franco Kernel, Improved camera patch and Xlouder patch with awesome beats.
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Try it for yourself, bud. Don't be ignorant and make a thread like this.

With the custom rom you can customise more you phone and improve your experience with your phone than stock ROM. Many people said that in latest posts. But no one precise that every custom ROM has some little or big dysfunction. Look the chapter troobleshooting of each custom rom. Even cyanogenmod (very popular) has one.
My strategy is replaced the stock ROM by custom ROM when I 'm feel tired of my phone. And then it allows me to wait several mouths: time to search the right next phone for me and buy it.

How about using the stock deox roms ? This allows you to run the base rom plus flash some small customisations
Customisations in the roms sometimes bring instability, although most of the main roms on here CM /AOKP / AOSP are quite stable but that is why they are development roms