[Q] (Q) Reccomend rom and kernel combo? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi you guys, I just got my nexus 4 a week ago and rooted it right away.
I have been looking through the list of roms and I honestly don't know which is right for me.
I'm looking for a STABLE rom that knows how to balance battery life and power.
I don't care too much for customization, just a little would be nice (Nothing too overbearing).
It would be if the rom just knew what it was doing, and doesn't need me to constantly tweak things.
SO in all, just the BEST reccomnded rom and kernal combo.
Thank you in advance.
EDIT: I am currently running the stock rom, and franco r53 kernel

Slimbean. Stable, no bugs. As for kernels, they all are good. I like trinity and matrix

You will get a lot of different feedback what is the best. In the end it's a matter of taste.
atm I like AOKP with faux123 kernel. I heard the Minco Rom which comes with franco kernel should be very stable and smooth. And this rom and kernel where developed and supposed to work together:
"Welcome to the cross collaboration between myself & Francisco Franco.
We're proud to announce the first and ONLY Franco supported ROM. This ROM has been built from AOSP Jelly Bean."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2061573
I don't know if you already know this "index"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975842
try some of the AOSP ROMs and see what's best for you. Since there is no best combo for everyone.

Try EVERYTHING! Every phone is different as is every person.
I could just go on about how I now swear to Trinity and AOKP, but you'll never really know the answer to your own question unless you experiment. The experimenting is the best part :3
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I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!

Notorious544d said:
I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!
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Want battery but worried about smooth? Install pimy my ROM and use a fee tweaks here and there ....
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MINCO, really lite

Sorry i didn't make this clear earlier. But i care MUCH more about battery life than performance. I use my phone constantly, wether that means texting or reddit or games. I'm sure the nexus' hardware can more than keep up with these tasks but I'm getting relatively poor battery life.

I'm a gamer I use rasbeenjelly rom and motley b31 experimental. I get better battery life and performance than stock rom.
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I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?

newtoandroid30 said:
I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?
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Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Factory stock rom and franco kernel.
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Slimbean (stable, no bugs) and Harsh kernel (smoothest kernel I've tried so far and good battery life)

reaper000 said:
Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?

galaxys said:
Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?
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That's what I'm running right now! :good:
The reason I recc'd SR5 was because I found it faster than SR6. Heck, with Matr1x 5.5ocgpu487 (which itself is marginally faster than Matr1x6), I was scoring just over 20000 on AnTuTu with SR5.
I just benched SR7.2 with Motley b31oc1678, gave a pretty nice AnTuTu score of 20900, which is the same as what SR5 gave. So I'd give a thumbs up to this combo -- it also feels as good as SR5! (Running Trinity 91L at 1728 oc'd would undoubtedly bump that above 21000, but I couldn't tell the difference between running Trinity at 1728 and Motley at 1678 in daily use)
Do have to say that Rasbean Jelly and Trinity 91L was blinding fast, very noticeable in regular use; totally supports the >23000 AnTuTu score. (But I can't tell that big a difference between that combo and Liquidsmooth 3.2, which is unsupported by its 19000 benchmark. Yet another reason why I feel benchmarks are somewhat worthless when compared between entirely different ROMs)
It's all really subjective; objective tests like benchmarks are so confounded that only data mongers like me bother to use them :silly:

With Motleys I get 16000 at 1024
19500 at 1242 but then the increase is negligible. 22500 at 1642 for me.
I have been runing at 1024 and every game is perfect. Undervolted to 650 at 1024
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Which kernel is the best?

Hello!
Like the topic says I wonder which kernel you guys thinks is the best! Which one got best battery life and smoothest and yeah you know! And which ROM do you use your kernel with? Personally I think matr1x is the most stable kernel out there when overclocked. But Air kernel with pixel 1.60, nothing is smoother!
Share your opinions plz! have a nice day!
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bedalus made us a nice comparison of kernels, i suggest reading his thread and checking out the comparisons http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441905
but personally, i think that the trinity kernels are on the very top of the food chain
simms22 said:
bedalus made us a nice comparison of kernels, i suggest reading his thread and checking out the comparisons http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441905
but personally, i think that the trinity kernels are on the very top of the food chain
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Definitely check out that link. Some great information in it relating to kernels.
As for myself, nearly every single time I try a kernel other than matr1x, I get stability issues. Then again, I've only given a few ICS kernels a go thus far. I am a fan of Air Kernel at this current time. It has been stable and fast for me.
Stock kernel !...
because without stock kernel there is no custom kernel..
skizzled said:
Definitely check out that link. Some great information in it relating to kernels.
As for myself, nearly every single time I try a kernel other than matr1x, I get stability issues. Then again, I've only given a few ICS kernels a go thus far. I am a fan of Air Kernel at this current time. It has been stable and fast for me.
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Same here Skizzled... big fan of Matr1x, but am driving the Air Kernel 3.5_65fps. It has performed very well and has good battery life for me.
Steviemac
I prefer the aniDroid hardened but... b4 & b5 are so unstable.
Now i'm using air.
And waiting for stable anidroid hardened.
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Using Air 3.6 with only voodoo right now.
Fast and stable for me till now :thumbup:
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My favorite ROM is AOKP and for my phone steve.garon's kernel seems to be the best option for stability, battery life, and smoothness.
Using simple kernel here.. Adds voodoo sound and BLN without compromising on stability cause everything else is stock. I find ics on the nexus smooth enough already
Using air_kernel_v3.6_65fps+blue now.
Fast and stable for me. rom: GummyNex 0.8.2. work perfect for me!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
In my opinion, Air Kernel is the best
Matr1x kernel is not working properly with my nexus S, because of undervolt setting.
Simply, it does not boot.
air_kernel_v3.6_65fps+blue with Pixel 1.6 Lite Touch. Best ICS based Kernel/ROM combination for Stability and battery life I have tested so far. But, I normally end up switching back to Oxygen Rom eventually. I know it is GB based but who can beat a fast ROM which can get you uptimes in excess of 1000 hours with no need to reboot.
I use matr1x-cfs 18.0 and so far, everything seems to be fast and stable. The only times my phone reboots is when I play around with the already undervolted kernel.
Other than that, it's fast and I don't see a point of switching to other kernels unless they provide a feature that's not in matr1x.
Matr1x is the best for me battery life and performance.
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Matr1x kernel for me is always at or near the top can't go wrong with Matr1x the only time I don't use the kernel is if I'm on Peter Alfonso Bugless Beast Rom other than that its Matrix!!
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Take a look at Thalamus' kernel... for me it's the best balance between stock kernel and modded ones. Battery +75% (approx.) and no reboot at all!
You'll find it (current version: 3.0.23_r1) at this page.
Nuhetri v3.0.1 and airkernel v3.6 with voodoo colors! working flawlessly!
I've been on many different Kernels but in the end I always go back to Matr1x. It worms the best for me
bertans said:
Take a look at Thalamus' kernel... for me it's the best balance between stock kernel and modded ones. Battery +75% (approx.) and no reboot at all!
You'll find it (current version: 3.0.23_r1) at this page.
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Thanks I just downloaded to give a spin I hope it work well on my Nexus S4G!
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buglessbeast+matrix best combo for battlife and performance

ics rom issues

so ive been runnning ics roms for awhile now (since one of the first functioning cm9 builds were out), and im not new to flashing. but im a little unsure what i should be running that will fit my needs the best. im running slimics 3.7 right now with its stock kernel, and its great, if you get rid of their 'stock launcher' and change the screen settings, i just feel like i could be getting more. ive heard wonderful things about dark knights rom, but havent had a good experience and i dont know if its due to me flashing improperly. i started out on icssgs and it did me well....i just find slim a but of a step above (my opinion of course). but i find slim releases their updates before many apps become available to it. im just a regular user, i use facebook and web alot, and of course text, and camera, i also desire as much battery life as possible (of course) while running the best performance with what i need. Are there any suggestions for me out there for a rom/kernel combination?
Hi,
Did you already try MNICS kernel with SlimICS ?
I've got the best user experience with this combo.
powerdams said:
Hi,
Did you already try MNICS kernel with SlimICS ?
I've got the best user experience with this combo.
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+1.....mnics is a great basic kernel designed for everyday use, with a specially tweaked conservative governor for smooth ui experience, and good battery too
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Best Kernel for Paranoid Android

Just curious. I have about decided that Paranoid Android is going to be my rom of choice for my Nexus 7. Looking to see what kernel everyone is running and which one they think is best.
I've been using trinity for a few days with that paranoid and it has been working brilliantly, the battery life is excellent, very quick, and any instability I can definitely credit towards my inexperienced tinkering
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You can use the Franco Kernel, or otherwise (my favourite) Faux ES Kernel!
Careful with faux123 014b1/014b1es kernels
chris.wueste said:
Just curious. I have about decided that Paranoid Android is going to be my rom of choice for my Nexus 7. Looking to see what kernel everyone is running and which one they think is best.
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I also love faux123 kernels, especially 013m (or 013es if battery life is an issue). USB OTG charging works if enabled in FauxClock, very stable.However, 014b1/b1es freezes if Bluetooth is enabled and BT device connects.
Hope it helps.
Running M-Kernel - a29 here. Been trying out a few for the past couple days. Best advice I can give you: play with each one for a while and makes some notes of how your device feels with each kernel.
Also, check out this thread if you haven't already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
ever process is different and hence react differently to kernels, try and test for urself thats the only way ull know for sure.
and for average scoring for battery and benchmarks i suggest visiting this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
Which kernel would increase speed and numbers in quadrant standard?
xateeq said:
ever process is different and hence react differently to kernels, try and test for urself thats the only way ull know for sure.
and for average scoring for battery and benchmarks i suggest visiting this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
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This. There is no such animal as an across the board best kernel.
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I see a lot of lag and complete lockups on my Nexus 7. The only kernel I haven't seen this on is m-kernel. Just my 2 cents.
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kernels

new here,
dont want to ask the noob question of which kernel is the best...but can I get some opinions on what kernel you guys use and why?
I basically want to be able to undervolt a bit across the board, and have an improvment in battery life without losing the snappiness of the phone.
nothing major....I noticed the Franco Kernel is very popular, but there isnt any details on the op about it per the creators style.
Also, I read if you come off of Francos, you need to flash the reset kernel...where is that?
thanks
all help is appreciated
Franco is great. Doesn't UV, though.
Honestly, check out Harsh kernel. It's already UV'ed and allows for more. Also, it is QUICK. Battery life is great.
Personally, I use Matr1x kernel. I wondered the same question as OP and I jumped around a few kernels. I used Franco, Bricked, and now Matr1x (might have tried out IntersectRaven's, but I forget). Allows for undervolt and has a few governors as well as I/O schedulers. I like to settle for one thing so right now I'm content. I can't judge battery life, because I don't completely rely on kernels to do it for me, rather I manage my apps and screen, auto sync, etc. myself.
I believe the reset kernel is the stock kernel, which you need to flash before any custom kernel, but... not quite sure
There are some great kernel devs here, as you would assume (random order): Franco, Morfic, Mathk1d, Harsh, etc etc. All with individual qualities, I however find common details in most of them; great improvements in battery life & performance being the biggest compared to stock.
Try them all, they're free & it's easy enough.
(Personally, I have two backups in twrp that I always revert to: rasbean + trinity & minco + franco. Seen you asked..) :thumbup:
Reset kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024982
I've been using motley since day one that I've had my N4. Jumped to franco to check it out but always ended back with motley. Most of his builds are tested before release and he will tell you if they're for testing (alphas), tested a little bit (betas) or stable. There was a few weeks where I didn't even update my kernel because it was perfect (at least for me) and just updated to get the later features. There are a lot out there and its just a matter of testing and seeing which kernel/features fits our needs. :good:
On my sig we have a chart going on with different versions that have been tested with voltages and binning.
MiNCO has been great for me
AW: kernels
Trinity kernel (latest, ondemand) and rbj. Nice combination. Realy fast, without the need of extra tweeks. UV by default. Smooth.
Used Matrix 5.5 bevor, also snappy, but drained my battery faster.
Francos kernel with minco rom worked great on battery life, but was not that smooth. But haven't tried the latest francokernel.
Everything just personal, and battery life depends much on the way you use your n4.
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For me, Faux's kernel is hard to beat
Very good battery life, potential to UV, extremely stable, super smooth, release schedule is relentless and faux is quick to help out troubleshooting.
But above all else, the one feature that stands out above all else is full colour control with gamma adjustment! This alone makes it worth it, completely unleashes this device's screen!
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Trinity has excellent performance and solid battery. Highly recommended.
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This is completely subjective, different kernels work best for different people. Try a few out and see which you prefer

Cyanogen mod and stock

Hi,
I wanted to ask a small question...
I'm currently on the stock ROM after trying out AOKP and PA once.
I realized I wanted to keep it as stock as possible, so I'm going for a ROM with greatest performance and minimal customization....
I know we are not supposed to ask a ROM vs ROM feature comparison, I can do that myself. So here's my question...
Which ROM will give me greatest performance? It can be regardless if the features it has, just can you tell me of any ROM with greatest performance?
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I am sharing my fuzzy experiences
Well, I have tried some ROMs and Kernels for Nexus 4 in the Google Nexus 4 -> Nexus 4 Original Android Development and can shed some light on your query.
If you want performance, it just does not depend on ROM, but looking at your profile and thanks meter, I believe you already know that. It can depend on ROM, Kernel, Over Clocking etc. etc. and we can go on that all day on what is better and what is not.
I have found Xylon quite fast which gave me good Antutu Scores of ~19000 without over-clocking or any other kernel. To be honest, I did not perform extensive tests to try the performance but I find visually and functionally no difference in using a Cyanogen Mod Nightly which gave me around ~14000 Antutu score and Xylon which gave me ~19000. I am more of a feature enthusiast rather than performance. To answer your query in one line,
Stock with Trinity Kernel => ~18000 (No overclocking)
CyanogenmMod => ~14000
Xylon => ~19000
Antutu Scores and Sorry I haven't saved the screen shots of Stock with Trinity Kernel & Xylon but here is a screenshot of my CyanogenMod. So if you have to just believe me of my Xylon scores
I have calculated performance based on Antutu benchmark and that may not be ideal for your performance needs.
Jamal Ahmed said:
Hi,
I wanted to ask a small question...
I'm currently on the stock ROM after trying out AOKP and PA once.
I realized I wanted to keep it as stock as possible, so I'm going for a ROM with greatest performance and minimal customization....
I know we are not supposed to ask a ROM vs ROM feature comparison, I can do that myself. So here's my question...
Which ROM will give me greatest performance? It can be regardless if the features it has, just can you tell me of any ROM with greatest performance?
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