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What is CM6?

I'm a fr00b
Feel free to... scold me

andershizzle said:
I'm a fr00b
Feel free to... scold me
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hah, good question. I'll cover the basics you can do the rest of the research, essentially CM6 is a customer Rom, (stands for Cyanogenmod version 6) for android devices. You can learn more by visiting cyanogenmod.com
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Also, cyanogenmod would happen to be my favorite custom rom, a lot of extra features are included, its pretty well optimized and you can expect updates often. I've personally used Cyanogen on the Mytouch and Nexus one, and I can't wait to see a version on the Vibrant, once an official stable version comes out, you can probably expect Android 2.2 and a lot of optimizations that would may the vibrant what it should have been on launch day.
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Also I hate to throw this in, being a fairly new poster and all (and not being a mod) but I believe that this thread would belong in the vibrant general forum as opposed to the dev forum. Just a heads up so you don't get flamed in the future

andershizzle said:
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Don't worry, we won't scold you. It's not your fault being new and all.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com

I just wish you would realize that your question is for general section

stillyone said:
I just wish you would realize that your question is for general section
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Helpful post, alludes to something I remember mentioning
@andershizzle: if you do decide on running any roms such as CM6, the best tip that can be offered is to make sure you understand what you are doing and read any instructions carefully before you proceed, and make sure you understand the instructions too. Remember to ask for help before doing something that might turn your phone into a $500 paperweight (or in the vibrants case its more of an expensive decoration since I wouldn't trust it to hold down paper. It'd probably blow away too.)

Aphotix said:
Helpful post, alludes to something I remember mentioning
@andershizzle: if you do decide on running any roms such as CM6, the best tip that can be offered is to make sure you understand what you are doing and read any instructions carefully before you proceed, and make sure you understand the instructions too. Remember to ask for help before doing something that might turn your phone into a $500 paperweight (or in the vibrants case its more of an expensive decoration since I wouldn't trust it to hold down paper. It'd probably blow away too.)
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I haven't laughed so loud at any post on XDA as I did with this little comment. Funny, its probably true. LOL!

Aphotix said:
you can probably expect Android 2.2 and a lot of optimizations that would may the vibrant what it should have been on launch day.
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Not being a 'nit-picker', but CM6 uses 2.2 (froyo). CM5 is 2.1 (eclair) and CM4 was 1.6 (donut). Hmm....now I'm getting hungry.
But yes, I'm definitely looking forward to see CM6 on the Vibrant. Only downside is it will look like the stock CM6 (meaning our Vibrant png's will be replaced ).
Guess I might start working on the replacement Vibrant theme.

Moved to General forum. The development forum is only for development threads. (Threads with actual development happening.)
Questions should always be in the General forums (or Q&A if your device has a Q&A forum.)

MINUS Stl said:
Not being a 'nit-picker', but CM6 uses 2.2 (froyo). CM5 is 2.1 (eclair) and CM4 was 1.6 (donut). Hmm....now I'm getting hungry.
But yes, I'm definitely looking forward to see CM6 on the Vibrant. Only downside is it will look like the stock CM6 (meaning our Vibrant png's will be replaced ).
Guess I might start working on the replacement Vibrant theme.
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When I'd made the decision to move from my N1 to Vibrant, I was all excited to find out there was going to be a CM for Vibrant. Now, I don't care so much. Vibrant has so many things I was already replacing that it's cut down on my apps somewhat.
I got into rooting for App2SD, and with my Vibrant it just isn't necessary now to run a custom rom. I will miss the undervolting and overclocking, though I sort of hope someone will work on kernels which will work with the stock build. I did a simple root just to use my root apps. Otherwise, Vibrant is pretty good for me.
BTW, this isn't any sort of anti CM post ... I love the work he and his cronies do, and some times I hope that they'll get snapped up by one of the big guys out there. They should be making bank for their talents.

Well I feel like an idiot for posting in the Dev section. Accident. Lmao.
Anyways I've flashed ROMs on a Touch Pro 2 (WinMo *cough*terrible) before so I'm decently familiar with that.
Is CM6 like, Stock 2.2? I'm looking for a stock-as-possible ROM, is that what I should be getting?
Hehe, guess I'll just try it when it comes. But thanks for all info.

Will we be able to install CM6 with ROM Manager?

andershizzle said:
Well I feel like an idiot for posting in the Dev section. Accident. Lmao.
Anyways I've flashed ROMs on a Touch Pro 2 (WinMo *cough*terrible) before so I'm decently familiar with that.
Is CM6 like, Stock 2.2? I'm looking for a stock-as-possible ROM, is that what I should be getting?
Hehe, guess I'll just try it when it comes. But thanks for all info.
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If you look at his changelog on his site he shows you the common Froyo bits and then shows the bits for different phone types. I would call it a Custom/Stock Hybrid

Pneumatic said:
Will we be able to install CM6 with ROM Manager?
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From browsing the vibrant forum on cyanogenmod.com it looks like mostly speculation at this point.

davbran said:
From browsing the vibrant forum on cyanogenmod.com it looks like mostly speculation at this point.
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It's not speculation. There is active development for the Vibrant going on. It's just not far along enough yet for an experimental release.
You can follow wesgarner and scepterr on Twitter for the latest updates since they're heading the Vibrant branch. Wes is primarily focused on the MT3G Slide a the moment though since he promised to work on that one first and it's farther along, but he has also been actively working on the Vibrant too.

I just want CM6 on Vibrant to see Wes work his hiney off
No, not really. But I know he will.
The CM team adds a year to our gadgets. All I really want is to get rid of the stinky calendar app right now, and I can do that without CM6 (4,5 or 7, whatever). In eight months, though, when 1.5 or 2gH processors are selling, some ingenious JIT tweak revolutionizes speed, and/or the size of Google Earth becomes more commonplace, I'm going to want CM. I'm going to want it to be in its ruts, hashed & rehashed. Im not necessarily expecting it, but I sure am gonna want it, and be grateful if it's there for me and my old phone.
The CM team is also willing to try new stuff, and can get a load of people to test it. So Apps2SD started where? Got popular how? It's stock now?
CM is open source, and has got a lot of people using and understanding what open source is. The social aspect of software is all too often misunderstood, or just plain dismissed. XDA-developers has revolutionized software as we know it. We'd all be spoon fed M$ users without this site, and possilby without CM specifically. These guys will be in software history textbooks.
So, I'm working donations into my budget. I'ts much cheaper than buying a new phone every few months, or putting up with stock software on old hardware. I will pay these guys as long as they're willing to work their magic.
(By the way, every once is a while I crack out my old Tmo MDA, just for kicks for a few hours. It works beautifully thanks to a custom ROM. Thinking about giving it to my Mom just so she can have a Tmo "smartphone." I love XDA. I love open source, even when it's not exactly.)

Rom Overload?

Is it just me or does it seem like everyone and their mother are posting Roms in the Evo development subforum?
I'm not going to name names or anything, but there seem to be a few teams that work very hard at distinguishing themselves as great releases only to get overtaken by people launching derivatives that are not much more than wallpaper changes of the very same roms?
Many of us can tell the distinction between the two, but I worry about new folks coming in who have no idea. I'm not going to spread FUD, but installing roms from an untrustworthy source is a great way for real problems to be introduced into the security model of the Android platform.
Does anyone else see this as a concern? Are there any solutions we as a group can come up with? Is this really not a big deal?

Yes you are correct
OMG I changed the color of the call [email protected]!!!!! NEW ROM!!!!!
Instead of theme change.
Either go cyanogen (uber premium) or stay rooted stock.
No need for the other bs. They don't do anything.
Now the kernels, I like, keep them going though. But the roms need to stop.

I think people are just making them in a sad attempt to gain free donations for their "efforts" or lack thereof.

kthejoker20 said:
Either go cyanogen (uber premium) or stay rooted stock.
No need for the other bs. They don't do anything.
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so let me get this straight. you're automatically dismissing OMJ's work, Baked Snack, Fresh, Damage Control, etc. just to name a few, simply because they are not cyanogen? better at ease son.
secondly, you can't simply lock down the forum for the "legendary" cooks. what happens if a noobie comes in with a simply stellar rom that gives us 12 years of battery life and the ability to teleport but because he's not Cyanogen, he can't release? that seems a little asinine.
i think people need to be responsible for their own phones. research, do a little leg work, talk with some forum members, make an informed decision and go with it.

SilverStone641 said:
so let me get this straight. you're automatically dismissing OMJ's work, Baked Snack, Fresh, Damage Control, etc. just to name a few, simply because they are not cyanogen? better at ease son.
secondly, you can't simply lock down the forum for the "legendary" cooks. what happens if a noobie comes in with a simply stellar rom that gives us 12 years of battery life and the ability to teleport but because he's not Cyanogen, he can't release? that seems a little asinine.
i think people need to be responsible for their own phones. research, do a little leg work, talk with some forum members, make an informed decision and go with it.
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Nice way of twisting what I said. BTW...
Nice upoad speed dude 44mb

I'm still a relative newb to Android, but I can see how it would be easy to get overloaded with all the ROMs out there. I've bounced back and forth between Fresh, CM6, and rooted stock for a while and I finally got sick of having to set up my phone over and over again (yes, I know about Titanium, but it's not good for certain types of things). Anyway, I finally said f*** it and flashed CM6 again and have left it there. None of them are perfect, but CM6 works the best for me.

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Nice way of twisting what I said. BTW...
Nice upoad speed dude 44mb
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Less twisting then what you think. It's not CM or stay stock. I personally ran CM nightlies and CM6, both times I left them because even with all the fine work he's done there are very large and blatant things I don't think are great about it.
Does that mean it's low end, no, but there are lots of Roms every bit as highend and polished as CM.
Now on the main OP, I agree that we are seeing a flood, but also that there is nothing to do about it in an open community which is pushing people to tweak and express and share. It is what it is, and if they aren't calling out the people who put in the actual time into said Rom and giving them all the praise for the actual work then shame on them.

One way to help new users do research, is if there was a chart comparing the more popular roms... o wait there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
pretty unbiased test that compares several features that most people would look for in a rom.

nief1313 said:
One way to help new users do research, is if there was a chart comparing the more popular roms... o wait there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
pretty unbiased test that compares several features that most people would look for in a rom.
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Neif, you crack me up whenever I see you pushing your grid. I've been dircting people to the wiki to check it out, but good luck trying to stay on top of all of the new releases. More power to you.
And to bring the thread back on topic - there do seem to be a lot of roms floating around that don't really seem to bring anything new to the table.

People are just posting what works for them. I am glad there are so many ROMs. If you think this is bad, I guess you never had a G1.

This really isnt something I'd be complaining about. Check out SDX forums (Moment support). Theres like one rom still receiving updates. The Hero forum is also losing support. Im more than happy to see people pushing a rom they cooked. It means the kitchens out there are actually getting used for the reason they were made available. Imo thats what open source is all about. If you dont trust it, dont flash it. Its that simple.
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dglowe343 said:
This really isnt something I'd be complaining about. Check out SDX forums (Moment support). Theres like one rom still receiving updates. The Hero forum is also losing support. Im more than happy to see people pushing a rom they cooked. It means the kitchens out there are actually getting used for the reason they were made available. Imo thats what open source is all about. If you dont trust it, dont flash it. Its that simple.
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I also love that the kitchens are being used - I'm dying to try one myself. I don't think its a trust issue though, I think its that some of these roms don't bring anything unique to the table, other than some theming and the removal of some apps.
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I do wish there was a subforum in the dev forum for roms. Perhaps a sticky's for the top 10 roms based on votes or downloads or some other type of ranking system.

fachadick said:
I also love that the kitchens are being used - I'm dying to try one myself. I don't think its a trust issue though, I think its that some of these roms don't bring anything unique to the table, other than some theming and the removal of some apps.
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dsixda's kitchen has pretty much everything you need. I installed Ubuntu in Virtual Machine and have started messing around, but unless you know what to and not to change, there isnt alot you can do to make the rom unique. But its worth doing if you're interested in learning about rom development.
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I've been looking at cooking my own rom but the thing is I would not only give credit where credit is due but also call it what it is.
I may come up with the perfect setup of base rom, kernal, apps, theme and just want to share with people who maybe like me are looking for that specific setup.
Easier to flash a rom with all that baked in then flashing everything individually. As long as someone credits correctly and doesn't try and say they did it all themselves why does it matter if it's documented properly.
Doesn't make it a worthless rom just makes it a colaboration of great work.

N00dle said:
I've been looking at cooking my own rom but the thing is I would not only give credit where credit is due but also call it what it is.
I may come up with the perfect setup of base rom, kernal, apps, theme and just want to share with people who maybe like me are looking for that specific setup.
Easier to flash a rom with all that baked in then flashing everything individually. As long as someone credits correctly and doesn't try and say they did it all themselves why does it matter if it's documented properly.
Doesn't make it a worthless rom just makes it a colaboration of great work.
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Its not a question of worth, simply a question of signal to noise.
I've run DC, Cal's, Netarchy's, Baked, Fresh, CM, Nightlies, and probably ecen a few others...I still think some sort of metric is required.
I'm gonna try thinking of something.

First I think we should be happy the evo has a strong community. We may even lose some with the galaxy s phones coming out.
Next a agree many aren't much of a difference, but for those that don't have time to tweak stuff in the kitchen before installing, it is nice to find exactly what you want.
Finally I'm sorry to sound like an elitist, but this is a hackers forum. There shouldn't be such an expectation of things always being safe and working.
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VSack said:
Its not a question of worth, simply a question of signal to noise.
I've run DC, Cal's, Netarchy's, Baked, Fresh, CM, Nightlies, and probably ecen a few others...I still think some sort of metric is required.
I'm gonna try thinking of something.
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I do agree there are a lot out there and it can be tough for people to tell what is what. I don't think it's a bad thing though, device support is good, it means that hopefully things will be running for a long time to come.

HD2 Android development stall

I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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yes...so why not starting today...make a ROM urself ???

We are all waiting for .35 desire kernel source from HTC?

Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl,
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No, that is because there are less top devs on the device now, Some have moved on to different devices.
Peteryoung said:
we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such.
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Not at all, ist do to with view counts, posts created etc.
Peteryoung said:
Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues,
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What you "need" has nothing to do with it, devs dont work on the roms because they have to, They do it because they WANT to, They work on what they "need" or want to and then share the work.
Peteryoung said:
and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know,
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Correct.
Peteryoung said:
but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...
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Completely disagree, The work and progress done on the Sense 3 roms is amazing, Sorry you are too ignorant and ungrateful to appreciate that.
Peteryoung said:
I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works,
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Then go and download one of the older non-sense froyo/GB roms like NexusHD2.
Peteryoung said:
just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead.
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Well that's your problem, The fact that you are having to do this means that you are CHOOSING to install work in progress builds rather then more developed builds, Its your fault and your problem.
Peteryoung said:
The roms used to work 100%,
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Err no they didn't, They was developed into a state where they eventually worked and the same will happen to Sense roms.
Peteryoung said:
but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round.
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Then go download one?!?!
Peteryoung said:
And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing!
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sense Roms where never designed to run on HD2 and that is why they are been developed to do so! If you don't want to be patient or be part of the testing then that's your choice, go and download a simple stock rom!
Peteryoung said:
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Desire base has been ported already and doesn't need more work until the desire gets and update. If you like the desire base so much why don't you just stick to the roms already available? Ill tell you why because you enjoy trying new builds, again that's your decision but you cant then complain just because most of the devs are hard at work on what THEY want to work on rather then what YOU want them to work on!
I personally don't want them to work on anything else apart from the kingdom, why? because its down to personal preference just like yours, at the end of the day its upto each individual dev what they work on!
PS. Please go and learn how to use paragraphs and sentence breaks etc as it just gets on your nerves when trying to read big long blocks like that.

ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on

jsmccabe78 said:
ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on
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Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.

TheATHEiST said:
Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.
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Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.

Playing the devil here:
At some point I can understand Peteryoung and I have seen several other people complain about this as well.
I have the HD2 just to toy around next to my E71 which makes it easy to say that I don't need a +90% working image. If something doesn't work tough ... and I will try another.
It would be nice to have the old trusty working roms like the one from Rafdroid updated to the latest working apps and all of the known fixes in 1 package.
I'm no developer but I am sure some of you could tweak the 'older' sense roms and incorperate all the latest working things. The GPS fixes are a nice example.
I personally applaud the devs in that thread for feedback and just trying to get it to work using feedback and interacting on it.
If the devs are focusing on newer type of roms, so be it and let them do it.
Lets face it, Android is fun on the HD2 but still it is a bit 'playing' around.

A retraction
Guys, I'm sorry
I think I was having a right cranky day when I penned that last grouchy missive.
I stand thoroughly ashamed and rightfully corrected on my last thoughts.
I really do appreciate all the work the devs put in for free here. I really do love the older desire roms and I guess I'm getting old, starting to refuse the changes of the times
I take it all back, I guess I really should stick to what I know best and let the youngsters do what they do best...making NEW stuff, not old.
I must say, I feel a little aggrieved at the sheer vitriol my post gained in response, but hey I guess after I'd battered everybody else with my tirade - that's just what I deserve.
Anyway, I hope the community can find it in their collective hearts to forgive this old sinner - I promise I won't write any more critical tirades on xda any more!
Apologies xda, I love you really xx
Peteryoung
P.S - Was the paragraph structure a little easier on the eye this time round?

Some just are not happy with ****...hey, you don't like it, move on back to WM6.5 where everything works. This is not a native android device so be lucky these developers are spending hours and days and more hours and more days so whiney ass spoiled brats like you can use their work for FREE. Be lucky you can even have ANDROID on the HD2! Another thing is there are plenty of what I consider perfect roms to choose from and many I have donated too.
Your apology is a joke you are still just acting like a *****...man up and get over yourself....

fred_up said:
Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.
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Exactly
we are at liberty to choose any rom available here irrespective of the development progress
it is fun to flash...Ah, I miss old time when I had to flash ROM 2-3 times a week
Cheers...

Best ROM right now?

Right now, I am on Smoothrom 3.4, and am looking to either upgrade to 4.0, or instead, choose another one entirely. My other choices are Paranoid Android (Maybe Cookies and Cream?) or Glazed Jelly Bean. What do you guys think?

To subjectional. Everybody is just gunna tell you what ROM THEY think is the best and its just gunna be a bag of opinions. Flash one you like don't listen to what a bunch of others think.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

All of them are equally good, just look at the features of each and decide which one fits your needs.

Ok fine, what do you guys recommend?

I like Paranoid Android, very smooth, awesome customization options, and very responsive developer (aaronpoweruser).

TedT100 said:
I like Paranoid Android, very smooth, awesome customization options, and very responsive developer (aaronpoweruser).
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Can you update it simply by wiping cache and dalvik cache.?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Bilge656 said:
Can you update it simply by wiping cache and dalvik cache.?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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most roms can be updated by flashing straight over the top. just check the thread, if it is a major update it may require full wipe first.
you can wipe cache and dalvik before, though more important is that you nandroid backup first!
seriously, try a few roms out for yourself and find out what YOU like. the beauty of a nandroid backup is that you can always go back if you don't like it

It really is very subjective. I've tried so many and it is very hard to really see the differences sometimes.
What is missing from stock that you want? Have you simply tried another kernel?
My personal favorites now are Codename Android and SmoothROM. Both are smooth, I haven't had any bugs that drive me crazy.
Definitely, you'll probably need to flash a few different ones to figure out what you like the most.
I normally do an ADB backup and then restore to put the apps back on. Since I use Nova, I just have to set that as my Launcher and majority of my settings are restored.

Which roms are bug free? I am in the same boat as opposed.. I know I could flash roms and decide but it's easier to ask and even though is personal preference it helps to know what you guys like.. it basically helps noobs siphon out the average roms from the great ones.. it does seem like the top are glazed, paranoid, and smooth Rom.. but please do give your personal opinions:thumbup:

ÜBER™ said:
To subjectional. Everybody is just gunna tell you what ROM THEY think is the best and its just gunna be a bag of opinions. Flash one you like don't listen to what a bunch of others think.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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^ This..

skwon said:
Which roms are bug free? I am in the same boat as opposed.. I know I could flash roms and decide but it's easier to ask and even though is personal preference it helps to know what you guys like.. it basically helps noobs siphon out the average roms from the great ones.. it does seem like the top are glazed, paranoid, and smooth Rom.. but please do give your personal opinions:thumbup:
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No rom is 100% bug-free. Threads like this are a waste of bandwidth for the very simple reason that the answer is totally subjective. Hence, they are summarily locked as soon as a moderator catches wind of them.
While I can understand and appreciate not wanting to spend a considerable amount of time flashing rom after rom, questions such as the subject matter of this thread are as pointless as "what color should I like best" or " what should my favorite tv show be." No one can answer that but you. No offense, and I'm not singling you out with this, but "what rom..." questions come across as wanting to be spoon fed the answer rather than putting even a minimal amount of effort into finding the answer.
Invest a bit of time researching. Give at least a cursory glance to some of the threads in the development forums. Generally, the features of the rom will be detailed in the OP and screenshots may even be posted. Read the last few pages of the threads to see how the current version is playing out. Look at how much traffic the various threads are getting, comparatively, to see which roms might have a fairly large user base or have been around awhile.

I would recommend Paranoid Android.
Everything is great !:good:

I'm using [ROM][KANG] CM10 with Tablet UI and I'm very happy with it. All I needed was a clean and stable rom with Tablet-UI. This one has it all!

Codename in original development...
Sent From My Nexus 7- Corrupted by Trinity

I appreciate everyones response to the question in this thread. as it helps me to know where to start flashing roms. Thanks everyone. i started with GlazedJelly( great rom). and now running paranoid 2.5 (another great rom) i like PA as it has the option for stock or tablet ui.

Anyone can compile JellyBam or Pacman?

Anyone could make a pacman rom or jellybam rom? for our nexus 4 ?
it would be really appreciated , now i know i have asked about pacman but how about jellybam ??

lokenok said:
Anyone could make a pacman rom or jellybam rom? for our nexus 4 ?
it would be really appreciated , now i know i have asked about pacman but how about jellybam ??
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lets be patient and wait for the developers to cook em
we are not allowed to ask for ETAs or requests on XDA. but otherwise, just my 2 cents that atleast JellyBAM will be here without much ado considering its on Galaxy Nexus too. im sure its just that the dev couldnt get hands on a Nexus 4 yet

i guess i shouldnt even write, but boy, i hope it takes them a while. when a new nexus comes out i always enjoy how sane and nice everything is. users friendly. roms fresh. no bull****. and mashup roms are probably amongst the worst things that xda can offer, its pretty much the 9th circle of rom hell. : P
seriously, the conflicts between these three roms, which are different and follow different strategies, are so vast that its getting dangerous. we pulled out completely, mostly because we fear retribution from google which does not take app breaking lightly. the way i see it, what they do abuses our work in the worst way possible. this is not cherry-picking or kanging, this is rom raping and the laziest most uninspired and unoriginal dev work i can imagine. not sure if aokp and cm agree but thats our impression.
its xda, things are open source and all, you do what you want but im telling you, you miss out badly. each of these three projects gives you so much more, if consistency and love for detail is something you value, that is. sorry for the rant, couldnt resist.

well played, moles well played

konfuzed said:
well played, moles well played
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i know i should just shut my mouth, it just doesn't listen to me.