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Can't have it all I guess? (Not really a rant thread)

Hello xda-ers!
I have been stalking around, tasting everybody's cooking for a couple of weeks now, and i have got to get something off my chest.
I did search, I do realize that what I am looking for can not be made and that its no one's fault (I might be giving htc a meaningful look right now).
I like a whole lot of roms and chefs here, I really do, but the rom I'm after seems to not exist - one of two options:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
And so I would like to ask of you wizzies, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Are things comming around? How do you see it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
Thank you all so much for all your hard work, you guys are the reason I love smartphones so much, I'm dirt poor but i promise I'll buy you guys a round of beer once I get out of college

Its a matter of time bro. Be batient. A month ago, none of the eclair roms had camera. Now they all do. A month before that none of the eclair roms had N1 voice keyboard. Now they all do. God knows what some of these amazing roms will have and do a month from now. [/good deed for the year]

Love the FAQ sig lol

mnissan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
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What?
MT3G has 192MB Ram just like Dream but has 512 ROM like Hero.Hero has 288MB RAM.

Macrophage001 said:
Love the FAQ sig lol
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^5 to you bro

mnissan said:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem

JAguirre1231 said:
1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.

mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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Well steam out in the right section next time

JAguirre1231 said:
Well steam out in the right section next time
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LOL +2000
"if" you had searched you could have found answers to both of your questions... and maybe posted in the correct section.
maybe that "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look" should be turned into "i actually searched and posted in the Q&A section or the I didn't read before posting..."
No offence but seriously if you would have searched you would have found those 2 answers in almost every thread that had to do with hero or eclair...

mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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I think someone leaked an HTC branded Eclair ROM with the "rosie/sense/whatever," and that's why you see it cooked into a 2.0 ROM.

Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer

shadowch31 said:
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!

Sxyman815 said:
Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.

JAguirre1231 said:
iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iAlwaysPantyLiners come with wings!

Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...

fiktion said:
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
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It went off topic at the same rate the iPad went from wanted to ridiculed. What's so bad about that?

Well back on topic/kinda...
Do we know for sure that htc will release the necessary drivers for video playback/camera? It sounds like some people are positive we'll get them eventually...I switched back to donut because I like being able to watch youtube, but its amazing how far along eclair roms have come, and mad props to NCommander for reverse engineering the camera drivers. Without him we'd still have no camera at this point. But I was just wondering if its confirmed or not that we will indeed get those drivers from htc one day.

Well, T-Mobile is teasing us with an Eclair update for our phones. We shall see.

What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time

Snipe175 said:
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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There's actually one like that, it's called iPhone OS. I suggest you buy an iPhone and try it

What is the best ROM as of 4-21-10?

What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1

amot said:
What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1
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I don't like answering threads like this cause I like people to test them out for themselves cause it's a personal choice. But, if you like Sense builds, check out DarchLegend 5.0.5 (or the stable ROM in the first post of that thread), or Fresh 2.0d. If you like AOSP and don't mind losing camera, definitely check out DarchDroid. I am using it now and it is a solid rom. ZenEXP is fun to play around with, but is not completely functional as of yet. But as I said before, I encourage you to try them all and see what fits you the best.

I like my bread toasted do to OC kernel.
I predict its the future of most hero roms.

I like the MatrixROM.
It's simple, fast, and stable. A good blank slate that you can scale into whatever you want.
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Aloysius
is at 2.0.5 now..

amot said:
What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1
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The point of this thread remains a bit unclear to me. Are you assuming
that we are all the same and your idea of best is the same as ours?
Also everyones exp are different. If you would flash a rom blindly
because someone you dont even know is serious or not suggested it,
then you my friend are probably due for a phone bricking rickrolling.....
Good luck to all those that flash because of others suggestions on
finding something that you yourself truely enjoy. Its bascially the same
as asking ppl to tell you what your favorite sitcom is. I would assume
anyone here already knows their favorite rom(If they havent compiled
it themselves)along with the reasons for it being so. But we all contribute
to the community in different ways, and if this is yours then thanks.

CB.CP is Epic!!! Very Fast!!

Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyways...the only correct answer to your thread OP.....the best rom out there is the one that works best for you and your needs. Sift through all the roms out there and you will find your diamond in the rough.

MagnusRagnarok said:
The point of this thread remains a bit unclear to me. Are you assuming
that we are all the same and your idea of best is the same as ours?
Also everyones exp are different. If you would flash a rom blindly
because someone you dont even know is serious or not suggested it,
then you my friend are probably due for a phone bricking rickrolling.....
Good luck to all those that flash because of others suggestions on
finding something that you yourself truely enjoy. Its bascially the same
as asking ppl to tell you what your favorite sitcom is. I would assume
anyone here already knows their favorite rom(If they havent compiled
it themselves)along with the reasons for it being so. But we all contribute
to the community in different ways, and if this is yours then thanks.
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lol! +1
yes, this thread is pointless. responses here will only be a watered down version of the roms original thread. id advice trying all of them to gain your own idea of what is the best rom.

nighteyes_wolf said:
Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyways...the only correct answer to your thread OP.....the best rom out there is the one that works best for you and your needs. Sift through all the roms out there and you will find your diamond in the rough.
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+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.

kbizzle said:
CakeButt.ClownPenis is Epic!!! Very Fast!!
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I've seen this in at least 4 threads (not to include the one were this was created and deleted) it's now officially a meme
not that one.... the other one where one of our "devs" rage quited

I agree with this but this isn't as obscene as the whole 2.1 is out garbage.
Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyway
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+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.
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kbizzle said:
+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.
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Ya but there are people out there who don't have the patience of doing that........ *hulk smash* I lost count how many times I've flashed the last two months since the 2.1 roms started to roll in. Sometimes even if I flash the same rom, wiping in between, I don't always have the same experience twice.
It's a process...but one that leads to happiness in the end once you find that one that makes your phone go 'ahhhhhhhh thats more like it'
I buy my computer chairs the same way...I basically blindfold myself and just start sitting in every damn chair in the store from cheap to expensive till my body lets me know I've made the right choice. Sure....it ends up being a gawd damn $350 chair but it was worth it haha /tangent
Mods please lock this thread

Maybe we can stop calling things pointless and leave it has a just a poll..
We can see what most people prefer and what everyones personal feeling is to the rom they are using.
And also for people rooting for the first time. I wouldnt recommend "just flash every rom you can and make a decision".
I would recommend flashing what the majority of people use and feel comfortable with. And then experiment from there.
This thread can also be informational if people stop complaining and post why they think a certain rom is better.
I understand there is more threads like this, but this has all current roms.

nighteyes_wolf said:
Mods please lock this thread
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um... why? It's a pretty good poll, it would be nice to see what everyone's favorite would be

johnsongrantr said:
um... why? It's a pretty good poll, it would be nice to see what everyone's favorite would be
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Well, ok maybe I'm just mentally exhausted and was a little on the harsh side, but if anything, can this be merged with the other threads asking what the best/fastest/stable roms out there are.....

Agreed w/ a majority of the posters so far....ROM flashing, be it w/ a Droid, a WinMo, or other O/S...is always about user preference. There will never be a consensus "best" in that regard...
That said, while I tend to gloss or skip over threads like this, I do attentively examine the "most stable ROM" threads, as ultimately....regardless of what eye candy or features I want in a phone, it still needs to function AS A PHONE!
I'm sure this priority will vary in rank w/ people who may use their phone for business purposes as much or more than personal (ie. myself), but when it comes down to it, I could care less how many zoom features I have in my camera, so long as my system lag is minimal, SMS works, and I can hear a caller on the other end of the line!
Off my soapbox now, and back to the original question...I'm toggling between the Darchdroid ROM for it's lightning speed and DC's latest w/ the today's latest mod updates. Tomorrow....who the F knows?

pwrmedia said:
Off my soapbox now, and back to the original question...I'm toggling between the Darchdroid ROM for it's lightning speed and DC's latest w/ the today's latest mod updates. Tomorrow....who the F knows?
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I would normally agree with the darchdroid as I really do truely love his work, it feels the fastest, but I'm running into waay too many problems with push gmail, battery life, vm notification, and some other stuff. v2 (pre-OC) worked really well, guess I'll go back to it after stuff gets fixed.
My vote is for fresh-toast as of the time of this post

Jus10o said:
Maybe we can stop calling things pointless and leave it has a just a poll..
We can see what most people prefer and what everyones personal feeling is to the rom they are using.
And also for people rooting for the first time. I wouldnt recommend "just flash every rom you can and make a decision".
I would recommend flashing what the majority of people use and feel comfortable with. And then experiment from there.
This thread can also be informational if people stop complaining and post why they think a certain rom is better.
I understand there is more threads like this, but this has all current roms.
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Obviously you are not speaking of me since i went out of my way to avoid
the word pointless. If this thead was titled "Whats your favorite rom and
why" i never wouldve posted. I didnt come in to find a new rom, i came in
to comment hoping maybe the op will be a little more specific in his/her
next post as not to mislead and waste ppls time. There can never BE a
BEST rom, and hopefully most of us here know that. If not continue to
scour this post by all means, if you look hard enough you might even be
able to find one that imitates the iphone os. If not you should prolly just
go buy one

im the best rom available as of 4-21

Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One

Hi,
Does any one know if there is a Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One?
If so is it any good / stable, if not any ideas when?
Cool thanks guys.

Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there

nexus9988 said:
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future

cymru said:
Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
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I'd rather post a quick question to people who are dealing with this frequently, than trawl the web, sift through junk and install something which has lots of bugs.
Cheer up, its not all bad.
Thanks for the link.

you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.

Without a criteria of what he is looking for other than good and stable it's hard to give a good answer. It's not about e-toughness, it's about searching, putting together an informative post, and reading the forum rules.
'cymru' is 100% correct. All it took was a search and reading comments about what does and does not work, then nandroid backup and try the rom and see if it passes the "good and stable" test.

DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)

stuff said:
WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!

LevitateJay said:
I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
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Well there are some roms that have ported sense camera, and apps.
I do believe my "The Official" rom has them. It didn't come stock with the sense camera, but I had it installed (easy to do from spare parts, plus I have 720p recording).
The best you can do is look for a rom with those things ported over.

Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing

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Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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I might check that out...I tried KingKlick's latest rom and my phone rebooted all night long with it. Lamesauce.

I agree with cymru, its not that hard to click one section over to development and see what's there instead of someone making a new thread everytime, and xda agrees. Not a big a deal yes, just saying I agree
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DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
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Luckily i've been a member for a number of years so don't fall into this category...
If it wasn't for XDA recently attracting many young people that weren't taught at home or school in how to do something for themselves once in a while they wouldn't have to come and anonymously display their e-laziness. Just shut up.
EDIT: THANKS JRBOURQUE ^

Hi guys, if the battle for whos the cleverist is now over, heres some feed back for the advice given.
I've installed, Evils q&d sensefroyo. Been running it for a few days, its cool. A little buggy, a few force closes, high battery use, no bluetooth, but very usable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Again thanks for the input, hope this helps anyone else who was looking for similar info.
Cheers.

I tried kingxclikz and Paul's r23 roms, I must say the first one is very buggy and there are no ways to use it even for 24h(though I think it needs an eclair radio),Paul's rom is way more stable but the lack of Metamorph themes,trackball mods and BT are too important.
He promised to release a new version soon so all we can do is wait and see!

Ughh. No BT on any sense ROM then?

Is anybody even working on bluetooth for Desire roms? I don't think anybody actually is. There are a few people I think might be capable like Paul but he's busy with other things now by the looks of it

Rom Overload?

Is it just me or does it seem like everyone and their mother are posting Roms in the Evo development subforum?
I'm not going to name names or anything, but there seem to be a few teams that work very hard at distinguishing themselves as great releases only to get overtaken by people launching derivatives that are not much more than wallpaper changes of the very same roms?
Many of us can tell the distinction between the two, but I worry about new folks coming in who have no idea. I'm not going to spread FUD, but installing roms from an untrustworthy source is a great way for real problems to be introduced into the security model of the Android platform.
Does anyone else see this as a concern? Are there any solutions we as a group can come up with? Is this really not a big deal?

Yes you are correct
OMG I changed the color of the call [email protected]!!!!! NEW ROM!!!!!
Instead of theme change.
Either go cyanogen (uber premium) or stay rooted stock.
No need for the other bs. They don't do anything.
Now the kernels, I like, keep them going though. But the roms need to stop.

I think people are just making them in a sad attempt to gain free donations for their "efforts" or lack thereof.

kthejoker20 said:
Either go cyanogen (uber premium) or stay rooted stock.
No need for the other bs. They don't do anything.
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so let me get this straight. you're automatically dismissing OMJ's work, Baked Snack, Fresh, Damage Control, etc. just to name a few, simply because they are not cyanogen? better at ease son.
secondly, you can't simply lock down the forum for the "legendary" cooks. what happens if a noobie comes in with a simply stellar rom that gives us 12 years of battery life and the ability to teleport but because he's not Cyanogen, he can't release? that seems a little asinine.
i think people need to be responsible for their own phones. research, do a little leg work, talk with some forum members, make an informed decision and go with it.

SilverStone641 said:
so let me get this straight. you're automatically dismissing OMJ's work, Baked Snack, Fresh, Damage Control, etc. just to name a few, simply because they are not cyanogen? better at ease son.
secondly, you can't simply lock down the forum for the "legendary" cooks. what happens if a noobie comes in with a simply stellar rom that gives us 12 years of battery life and the ability to teleport but because he's not Cyanogen, he can't release? that seems a little asinine.
i think people need to be responsible for their own phones. research, do a little leg work, talk with some forum members, make an informed decision and go with it.
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Nice way of twisting what I said. BTW...
Nice upoad speed dude 44mb

I'm still a relative newb to Android, but I can see how it would be easy to get overloaded with all the ROMs out there. I've bounced back and forth between Fresh, CM6, and rooted stock for a while and I finally got sick of having to set up my phone over and over again (yes, I know about Titanium, but it's not good for certain types of things). Anyway, I finally said f*** it and flashed CM6 again and have left it there. None of them are perfect, but CM6 works the best for me.

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Nice way of twisting what I said. BTW...
Nice upoad speed dude 44mb
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Less twisting then what you think. It's not CM or stay stock. I personally ran CM nightlies and CM6, both times I left them because even with all the fine work he's done there are very large and blatant things I don't think are great about it.
Does that mean it's low end, no, but there are lots of Roms every bit as highend and polished as CM.
Now on the main OP, I agree that we are seeing a flood, but also that there is nothing to do about it in an open community which is pushing people to tweak and express and share. It is what it is, and if they aren't calling out the people who put in the actual time into said Rom and giving them all the praise for the actual work then shame on them.

One way to help new users do research, is if there was a chart comparing the more popular roms... o wait there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
pretty unbiased test that compares several features that most people would look for in a rom.

nief1313 said:
One way to help new users do research, is if there was a chart comparing the more popular roms... o wait there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
pretty unbiased test that compares several features that most people would look for in a rom.
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Neif, you crack me up whenever I see you pushing your grid. I've been dircting people to the wiki to check it out, but good luck trying to stay on top of all of the new releases. More power to you.
And to bring the thread back on topic - there do seem to be a lot of roms floating around that don't really seem to bring anything new to the table.

People are just posting what works for them. I am glad there are so many ROMs. If you think this is bad, I guess you never had a G1.

This really isnt something I'd be complaining about. Check out SDX forums (Moment support). Theres like one rom still receiving updates. The Hero forum is also losing support. Im more than happy to see people pushing a rom they cooked. It means the kitchens out there are actually getting used for the reason they were made available. Imo thats what open source is all about. If you dont trust it, dont flash it. Its that simple.
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dglowe343 said:
This really isnt something I'd be complaining about. Check out SDX forums (Moment support). Theres like one rom still receiving updates. The Hero forum is also losing support. Im more than happy to see people pushing a rom they cooked. It means the kitchens out there are actually getting used for the reason they were made available. Imo thats what open source is all about. If you dont trust it, dont flash it. Its that simple.
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I also love that the kitchens are being used - I'm dying to try one myself. I don't think its a trust issue though, I think its that some of these roms don't bring anything unique to the table, other than some theming and the removal of some apps.
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I do wish there was a subforum in the dev forum for roms. Perhaps a sticky's for the top 10 roms based on votes or downloads or some other type of ranking system.

fachadick said:
I also love that the kitchens are being used - I'm dying to try one myself. I don't think its a trust issue though, I think its that some of these roms don't bring anything unique to the table, other than some theming and the removal of some apps.
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dsixda's kitchen has pretty much everything you need. I installed Ubuntu in Virtual Machine and have started messing around, but unless you know what to and not to change, there isnt alot you can do to make the rom unique. But its worth doing if you're interested in learning about rom development.
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I've been looking at cooking my own rom but the thing is I would not only give credit where credit is due but also call it what it is.
I may come up with the perfect setup of base rom, kernal, apps, theme and just want to share with people who maybe like me are looking for that specific setup.
Easier to flash a rom with all that baked in then flashing everything individually. As long as someone credits correctly and doesn't try and say they did it all themselves why does it matter if it's documented properly.
Doesn't make it a worthless rom just makes it a colaboration of great work.

N00dle said:
I've been looking at cooking my own rom but the thing is I would not only give credit where credit is due but also call it what it is.
I may come up with the perfect setup of base rom, kernal, apps, theme and just want to share with people who maybe like me are looking for that specific setup.
Easier to flash a rom with all that baked in then flashing everything individually. As long as someone credits correctly and doesn't try and say they did it all themselves why does it matter if it's documented properly.
Doesn't make it a worthless rom just makes it a colaboration of great work.
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Its not a question of worth, simply a question of signal to noise.
I've run DC, Cal's, Netarchy's, Baked, Fresh, CM, Nightlies, and probably ecen a few others...I still think some sort of metric is required.
I'm gonna try thinking of something.

First I think we should be happy the evo has a strong community. We may even lose some with the galaxy s phones coming out.
Next a agree many aren't much of a difference, but for those that don't have time to tweak stuff in the kitchen before installing, it is nice to find exactly what you want.
Finally I'm sorry to sound like an elitist, but this is a hackers forum. There shouldn't be such an expectation of things always being safe and working.
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VSack said:
Its not a question of worth, simply a question of signal to noise.
I've run DC, Cal's, Netarchy's, Baked, Fresh, CM, Nightlies, and probably ecen a few others...I still think some sort of metric is required.
I'm gonna try thinking of something.
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I do agree there are a lot out there and it can be tough for people to tell what is what. I don't think it's a bad thing though, device support is good, it means that hopefully things will be running for a long time to come.

[Q] What is rasbeanjelly?

I googled for a bit and found a few screenshots here and there..and this is the closest I've found to a definition
This is not cyanogenmod. Everything is hand codes by rascarlo and not cherry picked like jelly bro. Means instead of getting the code for all the phones cm supports you get only the necessary code. Its a real bare bones ROM. Its only for a select few and an acquired taste.
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Is that it? Basically a minimal pure JB experience for the N4 "mako" specifically that we can then add customizations as we like?
Just trying to understand.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34981366
Read the first post to see what's included in the ROM
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A name of a ROM.

i read that post..much of those items listed in the first post went right over my head.
i was looking more for a philosophical answer; why this over cynanagen or paranoid (both of which i understand).

zephiK said:
A name of a ROM.
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i thought this forum was to ask any question no matter how stupid

Reading the OP sounds like a AOSP rom built from Nexus 4 source.

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i thought this forum was to ask any question no matter how stupid
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And I answered it?
All ROMs are free. Just flash it and try out the ROM. It's not like once you flash a ROM you can't go back.
Make a nandroid backup, flash ROM + gapps, try it.
Don't like it? Nandroid restore from your backup and it'll feel like you just time traveled.

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It is. That is, if you're willing to deal with the consequences.

tarro, thats kind of what i'm getting at. i'm trying to juggle like 3 phone forums (mytouch, hd2 and nexus 4) and its hard to keep up with all the toolkits and ROMs for each when you're not immersed in this every day.
it took me a month to wrap my head around cyanogen, AOSP, paranoid and now rasbean just showed up so i'm trying to educate myself on all these different products.

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tarro, thats kind of what i'm getting at. i'm trying to juggle like 3 phone forums (mytouch, hd2 and nexus 4) and its hard to keep up with all the toolkits and ROMs for each when you're not immersed in this every day.
it took me a month to wrap my head around cyanogen, AOSP, paranoid and now rasbean just showed up so i'm trying to educate myself on all these different products.
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I think rasbeanjelly is far less modified than CM. It is VERY quick and stable. Not everyone wants all those extras. If you're curious, make a nandroid and flash the ROM.

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tarro, thats kind of what i'm getting at. i'm trying to juggle like 3 phone forums (mytouch, hd2 and nexus 4) and its hard to keep up with all the toolkits and ROMs for each when you're not immersed in this every day.
it took me a month to wrap my head around cyanogen, AOSP, paranoid and now rasbean just showed up so i'm trying to educate myself on all these different products.
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Rasbeanjelly is a very niche Rom that is heavily themed and customized by Rascarlo to HIS liking. It is very fast, very stable, but also not as customizeable as CM or AOKP. If you like the theme and the way it comes configured it is an extremely nice Rom. However, if you like to tweak every aspect and have tons of goodies you wont like it.....oh, and the blue everywhere takes some getting used to also.

zephiK said:
And I answered it?
All ROMs are free..
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not really. there's a time commitment in going to the trouble to start down the custom ROM path with any phone. i konw this..been doing ROM updates on here since my old SDA.
i just want to know what it is..things like paranoid are NOT just ROMs..they're completely different way of approaching your phone and it would be stupid to flash if you didnt have a basic understanding of what is going on there.
i admit to being a thicky whale omelet, but it took me about an hour of reading before it finally clicked what paranoid did for you.
thats all i was trying to ask here was if i was understanding the point of rasbean.

nyvram1 said:
tarro, thats kind of what i'm getting at. i'm trying to juggle like 3 phone forums (mytouch, hd2 and nexus 4) and its hard to keep up with all the toolkits and ROMs for each when you're not immersed in this every day.
it took me a month to wrap my head around cyanogen, AOSP, paranoid and now rasbean just showed up so i'm trying to educate myself on all these different products.
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Then dont juggle between those 3 phones. Its obvious that N4 is the most superior one out of the three. You don't have to keep up with anything. A dev forum is like a shopping guide. You just don't know how to distinguish what makes that ROM popular, just read the features / search on youtube.
They're FREE roms.. just flash and experiment. It's not that difficult. Rasbeanjelly is a minimalistic ROM skinned to be all black.
not really. there's a time commitment in going to the trouble to start down the custom ROM path with any phone. i konw this..been doing ROM updates on here since my old SDA.
i just want to know what it is..things like paranoid are NOT just ROMs..they're completely different way of approaching your phone and it would be stupid to flash if you didnt have a basic understanding of what is going on there.
i admit to being a thicky whale omelet, but it took me about an hour of reading before it finally clicked what paranoid did for you.
thats all i was trying to ask here was if i was understanding the point of rasbean.
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You don't have to commit anything for a ROM. You just look at it, if it impresses you. Read the last couple pages for user feedback. Still like it? Flash it.
Don't like it? Nandroid restore back to what you were using before.
Go watch a youtube video. People do videos on these ROMs. Basic understanding of what? A lot of roms are identical and "kang" features off of each other and give credit where its due. Even what YOU quoted says that.

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Then dont juggle between those 3 phones. Its obvious that N4 is the most superior one out of the three. lack.
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my wife has the HD2, my kids have the myTouch phones (christmas gifts) and i wanted to make all 3 phones as nice for them as possible.

nyvram1 said:
my wife has the HD2, my kids have the myTouch phones (christmas gifts) and i wanted to make all 3 phones as nice for them as possible.
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Flashing ROMs on other peoples' phone is a huge nono. It puts a responsibility on yourself.
You don't have to update their ROM everyday. They're not "phone nerds" and want their phone to be flashed new ROMs. Some people just want a phone that works out of the box. Not to mention, development for those phones aren't as huge as Nexus devices. myTouch brand has been declining.

the kids got the phones off ebay at christmas; they're capable little devices but i needed to remove the TMOBILE bloat first to make them usable.
the HD2 was retired with cracked glass for ages until i saw the android forum, dusted it off and put JB on it. it was so wonderful i had a guy in town put a new piece of glass on it and she's been loving it ever since.
i don't update their roms all the time; but the point was i have been all over the boards on here getting everyone's phone up and going and can't keep up with it all.
would you disagree i should have left those other phones alone?

nyvram1 said:
the kids got the phones off ebay at christmas; they're capable little devices but i needed to remove the TMOBILE bloat first to make them usable.
the HD2 was retired with cracked glass for ages until i saw the android forum, dusted it off and put JB on it. it was so wonderful i had a guy in town put a new piece of glass on it and she's been loving it ever since.
i don't update their roms all the time; but the point was i have been all over the boards on here getting everyone's phone up and going and can't keep up with it all.
would you disagree i should have left those other phones alone?
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You don't need a ROM to remove T-Mobile bloatware. All you need is root access. Development on those devices are vary limited and its hardware is starting to show its age to the point where newer ROMs with newer Android versions actually slow down the phone and a lot of 'hacks' are done to have that particular Android version because HTC/Huawei abandoned support for the phone.
HD2: You kind of went off-topic as my point is that you don't have to maintain all of their devices and keep flashing stuff for them. I'm sure they just want a phone that works and they don't care what Android version is on their phone. Most of the people I know in person don't really care unless they're tech savvy.
In the end to answer your question, Rasbeanjelly is a ROM.
Each ROM has their own features and the developer can choose to implement whichever features they want in their ROM. Some ROMs are minimal, feature-heavy, clean code, themed, 'kangs' (unofficial releases based off their source) with 'cherry picks' (stuff that isnt in their ROM but included their commits that are pending approval or stuff that just simply works)

nyvram1 said:
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No matter how stupid questions go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980135
No need to start a new thread for this.

This question isn't really about the nexus as much as a general question about that rom

Best daily driver rom for my N4...
Fast, bloat free, and very stable...
Take it for a spin... Happy Flashing...