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I'm a Palm Pre user and in love with WebOS, but as we all know Palm is dying and probably won't last through the year. I'm awaiting the EVO but I'm curious to know if it'll be possible to put WebOS on it. I'm not looking to start a WebOS/Android flame-war, I've just gotten used to WebOS in the past year. What do you guys think, is it do-able/worth the time?
Regardless, I'll probably upgrade to the EVO if the price is right
Thanks!
Is it possible? Probably.. Will it happen? Probably not.
There's already a discussion/wish list for WinMo 6.5 to be ported to the Evo, and even that may be a longshot.
But I'd say that has a much better chance of happening than WebOS... But then, anything is possible!
I was thinking that might happen. In that case, if not a complete port of WebOS is it possible to simulate/emulate the "card" system on Android? That's really my favorite part of the OS and what sets it apart from Android. Honestly, If someone could combine both OS's we'd have one hell of a phone.
Thanks!
TaskOS is about as good as you're going to get at the moment, no previews, just icons for running processes, not as flashy as webOS, but the basic functionality is technically there.
still waiting on the announcement of google buying palm for the acquisition of patents to multi-touch that palm owns the rights to.
Along with that would be webOS... give it some time, their stocks are tanking, another quarter of record losses will put them on the table to be bought up.
http://www.google.com/finance?chdnp...5&chls=IntervalBasedLine&q=NASDAQ:PALM&ntsp=0
Well instead of waiting for someone else to do it, what would I need to do to try to port the OS? Are there any tutorials or instructions available for this sort of thing? Is it standard or does the process vary by phone? I'd love to try it, even try to intergrate some Android functionality -- I think if WebOS and Android were combined it would make the perfect phone OS.
At the very least, would it be possibe to drop the Sense UI from the EVO and just run 2.1?
greymalken said:
Well instead of waiting for someone else to do it, what would I need to do to try to port the OS? Are there any tutorials or instructions available for this sort of thing? Is it standard or does the process vary by phone? I'd love to try it, even try to intergrate some Android functionality -- I think if WebOS and Android were combined it would make the perfect phone OS.
At the very least, would it be possibe to drop the Sense UI from the EVO and just run 2.1?
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webOS isn't open source so you will not be able to compile it.
The open souce part of webOS would be usefull in porting android to a palm phone but not the other way around sadly.
johnsongrantr said:
webOS isn't open source so you will not be able to compile it.
The open souce part of webOS would be usefull in porting android to a palm phone but not the other way around sadly.
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That takes some wind out of my sails. What about dropping the Sense UI in favor of just running 2.1 like the Nexus One?
greymalken said:
That takes some wind out of my sails. What about dropping the Sense UI in favor of just running 2.1 like the Nexus One?
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Go to YouTube and find the video called "Turning an HTC Desire into a Nexus One."
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That takes some wind out of my sails. What about dropping the Sense UI in favor of just running 2.1 like the Nexus One?
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the 2.1 that the nexus one runs is AOSP http://source.android.com/ and a custom built launcher for the nexus (launcher2.apk) which is popular here on xda and is easily obtainable.
These will all come in good time after it's released and rooted and custom roms start popping up. One thing you can hope for as I wish the phone to be successful and bring much attention to wimax in general is that AOSP and cyanogen mods http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ gets ported to the EVO. It's the cleanest version of android without all the crapware that generally comes with feature phones and flagship phones.
Cyanogen mods is where's it's at in the android hacking community. Suggestion if you really get into hacking android, start with AOSP and cyanogen port to the EVO. It will teach you alot about the android OS without all the added htc jazz.
Hope for a quick release of the EVO kernel's source though... once you have that then you can get to work. Without that don't expect much success.
Thanks for the advice! I'll start looking into them as EVO day gets closer. Are there any good tutorials for getting into Android modding/writing apps? Good ones though, not just any result from a google search.
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Thanks for the advice! I'll start looking into them as EVO day gets closer. Are there any good tutorials for getting into Android modding/writing apps? Good ones though, not just any result from a google search.
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like writing apps for anroid? or porting andorid OS? I'm not a programmer, don't know nothing about writing apps, so someone else will have to chime in there.
As far as porting, I do not know of any point and click guides for porting, this is the documented process for the Odroid, it should be relevant to your endeavor. They wrote a step by step for compiling android on Odroid, they do however use Uboot I'm not 100% certian what HTC devices use for their bootstrap.
http://dev.odroid.com/projects/android/
Hopefully that helps some. Good luck.
EDIT: found this for building for the G1
http://source.android.com/documentation/building-for-dream
Android ported on I Phone..!!!
Well I just read it on the net & saw it in a news show..!!!
I am just gonna try it on my 3G, hope the developers here can work out somethin soon for our LEO's too..!!!
& I know sooner or later we might have successful port, XDA rocks..!!!
Click Here for video... It's defionitely an early stage but 5 starts for the effort.
Ya, I know..!!!
they got the drivers for it as well, why dont we have this on the hd2?
lemonspeakers said:
they got the drivers for it as well, why dont we have this on the hd2?
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They're working on it. It takes time. I heard they have been working on it for 2 years already for the iphone android port. These things don't happen overnight, you know. Wait a year... we'll have a much nicer android port, i'm sure.
if guys are so desperate for android why not just go buy an android phone. I don't get it lol.....
I dont think that its the desperation for it, I think more about the ability to tool around and tinker with the device. For instance, install macOSX on my windows PC just to say I did it and it was easy peasy. And to say I installed android on my hd2. This is just fun stuff. Though I have to admit, Im not a big fan of widgets, etc.
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I dont think that its the desperation for it, I think more about the ability to tool around and tinker with the device. For instance, install macOSX on my windows PC just to say I did it and it was easy peasy. And to say I installed android on my hd2. This is just fun stuff. Though I have to admit, Im not a big fan of widgets, etc.
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I'm not really a fan of Android and its widgets either.
One thing I really want from Android is the speech-to-text input they have on the device that works VERY WELL.
And the Google Maps Navigation.
If I had those two on HD2, I wouldn't even think about an Android Device.
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I'm not really a fan of Android and its widgets either.
One thing I really want from Android is the speech-to-text input they have on the device that works VERY WELL.
And the Google Maps Navigation.
If I had those two on HD2, I wouldn't even think about an Android Device.
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yeah, i have the same issue like you. but mine is different.
the only thing that i want from android is its web browser and the more important FLASH 10 support as the dev for winmo has been stopped by adobe. i wouldn't mind if im using the opera mobile 10, but i need the flash 10 support!!!!
truly, i don't like android since i think its look like the open iphone os
Honestly!...
Why should I flash "googles" Android into my Bad Ass HD2???
No Joke! I need to know what all the fuss is about...
Why you ask? Well for a number of reasons. A search will tell you all of that as im sure this question has been asked over and over lol.
If you need to ask...
Seriously, why don't you just try it? You're not flashing anything. You won't lose any of your current information. I was enjoying the hacked versions of WinMo on my HD2, but now with Android I don't feel I need to ever go back.
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If you need to ask...
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This.
If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
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lol
Let's be nice. Android is pretty limitless many things can be added. Winmo is sorta outdated. Right now winmo has a lot of community support but that's just not enough. Try it . Dont expect anything and see what you get.
Biggest problem I see is winmo users go into android expecting the same experience.
sent from my hd2.
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If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
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Funny one
topic: some things are better with android, some arent. I think the interesting fact is to chose the operating system YOU want to use.
You can compare it with the operating system situation on your PC. Some people want to use Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, MacOSX,.....
I think it's a perfectly legitimate question: Not everyone has the love of digital adventures, tweaking or driving someone with more knowledge up the wall we do.
Why not just say what you like about Android? Unless you're not sure....well?
I enjoy reconfiguring my phone. I must have flashed custom WinMo ROM's a hundred times and radios tens of times. Configuring script to put my applications back the way they were, testing the build for smooth operation, stability and features had been a thrill of mine...my hobby, I guess you'd say, since the HD stemming from late 2008.
Android just kind of picks up where Winmo left off. I'm using Elegancia ROM and have been for months. It works great with the Android offerings.
Is Android better? If that's your question, then in my opinion, WinMo is better than Android on the HD2 as of this writing, by Android on this device is catching up incredibly fast.
Maybe you'll like it, maybe not. If your interested enough to chance getting flamed, then you are most likely a candidate to give it a go.
3 simple reasons
1. faster internet browsing
-android have simply a faster browsing experience for me, faster than opera on wm anyday
2. market
-the abundance of customization and application in the android market vs the wm store is like comparing a walmart to a gas convience store for choice of app and avaibility of apps
3. utility
-android simply utilize our screen and hardware much more efficently than windows. try the foursquare app on windows, and then try the foursquare app on android, it's like comparing a dirt road to a 5 lane highway in terms of usability and speed
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I think it's a perfectly legitimate question: Not everyone has the love of digital adventures, tweaking or driving someone with more knowledge up the wall we do.
Why not just say what you like about Android? Unless you're not sure....well?
I enjoy reconfiguring my phone. I must have flashed custom WinMo ROM's a hundred times and radios tens of times. Configuring script to put my applications back the way they were, testing the build for smooth operation, stability and features had been a thrill of mine...my hobby, I guess you'd say, since the HD stemming from late 2008.
Android just kind of picks up where Winmo left off. I'm using Elegancia ROM and have been for months. It works great with the Android offerings.
Is Android better? If that's your question, then in my opinion, WinMo is better than Android on the HD2 as of this writing, by Android on this device is catching up incredibly fast.
Maybe you'll like it, maybe not. If your interested enough to chance getting flamed, then you are most likely a candidate to give it a go.
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perfectly put but still deserved a flame or two lol
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If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
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LMAO
To the OP: Exactly what everyone else said (apart from infiniteecho)
Try it and see. Nothing to lose except maybe half an hour of your time.
As said above its 'hoarses for coarses'. I wasnt expecting much from Android because Minmo did everything I needed +more, plus it looked ok visually IMHO using CHT etc.
But android just feels slicker somehow...plus I'm not yet missing any of the features that I thought I really loved in winmo. Just the fact of having a good Market is a BIG plus for some people (myself now included although I always thought I'd never care for thousands of mainly pointless apps )....Android is generally a LOT more finger friendly than any 6.5.x build..... the list goes on.
Personally I am becoming a convert FAST. I will almost deffinately switch soley to Android when a proper android rom is released.
Dual booting is great and its always nice to have the option of two O/S's, but I find myself wanting to see Winmo less and less everytime I wake my new Android phone from its beuty sleep I just dont love Winmo like I used too lol.
But the only way you will ever really know is if you try it for yourself go on you (probably) wont be dissapointed.
WinMo stock = sack of **** on the HD2, you have to hack and slash away until you eventually get something that works. Then, and only then can you continue to play around with it.
Android, out of the box it works, and your free to play around with it and make it your own. If it wasn't for Android my HD2 would have be sold.
The touch screen and general Windows Mobile performance just pissed me off, you could triple the power of the HD2 and you still wouldn't get a smooth, slick experience.
Phil
thatruth132 said:
perfectly put but still deserved a flame or two lol
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LOL,
hmmm... yeah true it was flameworthy I suppose
NATIVE FULL ADOBE FLASH 10.1! Only available in Android.
memin1857 said:
NATIVE FULL ADOBE FLASH 10.1! Only available in Android.
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Reason enough for anyone imo.
lonelykatana said:
Reason enough for anyone imo.
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1+ on this one!
Thousands of apps straight from the marketplace, as opposed to a few hundred you have to get off the internet.
Oh, and flash.
Android is so good, why the hell did htc ship the hd2 with winmo?
Also hats off to the devs for making this possible, to use android on the best phone out there!
Good One.
infiniteecho said:
This.
If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
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Please go back to WinMo...too funny.
i like android because of the limitless apps, you'll never need for anything again for a phone. the market was the main reason for me because most apps are free, now google maps include free navigation! windows mobile who? lol plus even with android being ported to our hd2 it out performs windows mobile, less freezes and errors. programmed to work better! internet browsing, smoother and faster. once u learn all the features and how to use widgets u will like wmo less and less. i never seen myself becoming a fan of android when i was solely against it when i had touch pro 2
Me??? Because WinMo is Sh*t. If I couldn't have loaded Android on this HD2... it would have been on Craigslist an hour after I got it.
Unless of course bloated, clunky, slow, crashing, lack luster garbage is someone's thing... l would advice them to stay away from Android.
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It seems there's been little interest in previous mentions of WebOS on the HD2, and it's not gone anywhere. I saw that there is development of WebOS for the Hero:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401
I wondered if it would be possible to use this development to port to the HD2 as we already have the android builds running well? Correct me if I'm wrong- i know nothing about developing, I just loved the Pre until I got close to the hardware!
Someone posted earlier today in IRC the root.img and the source code for that. I'm sure Mdeejay could do something with it.
ill eat my own **** if this phone can boot into winmo/wp7/android/ubuntu/ and webos lmaoo jk about the eating part haha
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ill eat my own **** if this phone can boot into winmo/wp7/android/ubuntu/ and webos lmaoo jk about the eating part haha
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Most probably you will sir! You can have as many os as you want and it's possible!
I loved WebOS. Just always wished it was on bigger hardware like our HD2. I would give my left Nut to have a functioning WebOS ROM
Guys why is it soo good ?
What does it have over other OSes
WebOs is the best yet. Just need more hardware behind it..
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Guys why is it soo good ?
What does it have over other OSes
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I've got to admit I've not used it extensively, but I walked into O2 stores and tried the demo phones and it was the most fluid experience I've had. I'd love to try WP7, and of course I've loaded froyo ( and ubuntu) but I've found android frustrating as information just isn't accessible without jumping in and out of an app, and I'm worried WP7 will be similar. No multitasking is a big downer for me- I do loads of work and research on my phone. With CHT2 Sense seems great, if only it was abit more stable! I'm hopeful on that one though! but yeah, WebOS seems so smooth I forgot I was moving between applications.
alleyezondisromo:
Meego too- i nearly went an N900 over the HD2, now glad I didn't!
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Guys why is it soo good ?
What does it have over other OSes
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Go play with one for 10 minutes. You'll quickly see why webOS is a juggernaut among mobile operating systems.
Everything else just feels like **** (pretty much) once you use and have experienced webOS's fluidity and easy of use.
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I loved WebOS. Just always wished it was on bigger hardware like our HD2. I would give my left Nut to have a functioning WebOS ROM
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I agree. My nephew has a Palm Pixi and WebOS is truly sweet. Ever since he got his Pixi I have been yearning for WebOS on my HD2. If the Acer Liquid Stream launcher worked better, it would suffice me. But it has some bad issues.
Can we like start a poll for development of webOS on the HD2?
webOS (sorry Google, sorry Apple) is surely the best mobile OS out there. (I Know, I've had them all).
Well one plus side to it, is it supports homebrewing.
What does it take to code a port like that? A bunch of assembly language programming and hardware interfacing? Honestly I have wanted WebOS on any device for a long time. Since it's based on linux, shouldn't there be a way to somehow set it on top of an Ubuntu build/Android build?
And on top of that, wouldn't HP's legal team be raping anyone who even thought about attempting to port WebOS on anything?
http://www.webosroundup.com/2010/12/hacked-webos-appears-on-htc-hero/
According to this source, the entire development on the hero was a hoax. Can anyone confirm?
Any screenshots??
I would be surprised if HP made any attempts to stamp out a port of WebOS. HP has been supportive of the WebOS homebrew scene, and they need to increase their user base by any means necessary. Just like Microsoft with WP7 it's in their best interest to turn a blind eye to this sort of thing at least until their "ecosystem" has a better foothold.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we have webOS on our HD2's
Its more powerful has a bigger screen and well its an HD2...
the Palms are way to small for such an amazing UI.
Where do I donate to help this along ??????
Forreal..i would also donate myself...
I would love to see webOS on our HD2's. Haven't had the opportunity to use it yet, but I've heard nothing but good things about it. Also heard it's very easy to port iPhone games to and it plays them just as good as the iphone... with HP behind it now, we'll probably be seeing lots of games and apps for that os.
Hi folks!
I'm sure many of you already know about it, but still sharing it
After Teasing Its Touch-Friendly Future, Canonical Officially Reveals The Ubuntu Phone OS
Is there even the slightest chance of seeing it on our phone?
Would love to have it!
I would love new Ubuntu os
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I cannot find anywhere supported devices...
I am little sick of android beta versions for our phone. I would also like to see this running
Ubuntu OS looked great on the GNexus
I wish they would release a standard image so devs can port it to our defy. However its not going to be released any soon till 2014.
i only have heard of gnexus versions of the os, but if the device compatibility is not deeply integrated into the os, it should be possible.
but keep in mind, that this is not android, this is something totally different, devs must learn a whole bunch of new things to be able to port this to the defy. and frankly, being quite an old device, its not really worth the effort imo. but true, would be great to see it/use it on the defy.
very good os, it really has potential.
The truth made me sad!
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i only have heard of gnexus versions of the os, but if the device compatibility is not deeply integrated into the os, it should be possible.
but keep in mind, that this is not android, this is something totally different, devs must learn a whole bunch of new things to be able to port this to the defy. and frankly, being quite an old device, its not really worth the effort imo. but true, would be great to see it/use it on the defy.
very good os, it really has potential.
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Ya, I know, maybe I could do it if I get enough free time (which I barely get).
But your reply made me :crying: