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Does anyone here think it possible, or perhaps even worth developing a windows MOBILE 7 rom for the HD2? Perhaps based on windows embedded mobile? Even better, does anyone care?
After seeing the Android rom working for about 5 minutes I'm more excited for that than Win7.
I wouldn't doubt if there are people making a Win7 ROM for the HD2.
Am I the only one who thinks that Winmo 6.5 Energy + Modded manila > Android ? Energy Winmo just looks and feels better... Androis is overhyped, but I may need to play with it a bit more.
I don't care for windows phone 7, but about the time wm 6.1 was released, i got excited for wm7. i thought it would be awesome. instead we get wp7. crap.
Silencer23 said:
Am I the only one who thinks that Winmo 6.5 Energy + Modded manila > Android ? Energy Winmo just looks and feels better... Androis is overhyped, but I may need to play with it a bit more.
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I was with Android from 1.0 to 1.5 to 1.6 to 2.1 on my g1 and having switched to WinMo I do not want to go back. I am not intetested in Android or Phone 7 for my Hd2.
I have to agree with freeincolorado and silencer, android just doesn't cut the mustard. I finally loaded it on my TP2 and have been playing with it all weekend, and while there's a few things about it that I wish winmo had, I was still very relieved when popped my sim back in my HD2 this afternoon.
As for the original topic of this post, I feel extrememly confident that someone will try to to get wp7 working on the HD2, if only for the accomplishment. Even if it's never tried with any other existing phone, the HD2's hardware should certainly be capable, if the drivers etc can be made to work with it.
I like both OS of android and win mo. Both are open source and highly customizable. I just preordered the T-Mobile Vibrant but will be keeping my HD2 for work and will end up flashing some cool new roms on it.
I've been sticking with android because unlike Win Mo 6.5x, it's not a dying platform. It's completely on the rise with the upcoming Froyo and Gingerbread updates. Google has also promised even more updates in the future. I see LOADS of potential. The Android market is constantly growing along with XDA development e.g., CyanogenMod, etc..
But don't get me wrong I love Win Mo. It's by far and truely open source vs. android. I was surprised that I can already do things on my stock HD2 that a stock and unrooted android device can't (saving apps to sd, overclock the cpu, playing Flash etc). But with these forthcoming android OS updates, these features will finally be included.
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I don't care for windows phone 7, but about the time wm 6.1 was released, i got excited for wm7. i thought it would be awesome. instead we get wp7. crap.
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Well we got great devs here on our side so were gonna be just fine. I see a modified Win 6.75 coming out once WP7 is out. Taking key features and benefits from WP7 and merging them into Win6.5. Hell I'm running Kumars Classic rom and haven't had to reboot in like 10 days now. Then I see dual boot with an android port that works good but has a few bugs. Then I dream of possibly WINXP or a good UBUNTU running as a 3rd or dare it 4th os. With all the tablets coming out we may have many more OS options and choices floating around.
winmo 6.5 crushes android 1.6 imo...I Had a g1 running 1.6 and absolutely loved it, great device and great os..i use winmo 6.1 on a motorola mc55 for work so i thought i would hate the hd2 but compared to the motorola cliq which was my only android "upgrade" option from tmous at the time, the hd2 ran circles so I went with it and got the xt for the wife to compare...no contest hd2 ftw...she's still waiting for 2.1, moto delayed it again she's still at 1.5! haha . I do miss some android features but i just look at that huge screen and forget all about it...
i realize that many people want windows phone 7 for hd2, but this thread is really about windows mobile 7. I'm thinking photon. do you think thats possible?
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I like both OS of android and win mo. Both are open source and highly customizable.
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First off - Windows Mobile is NOT open source.
As for WM7 - I'm sure it will be ported to the HD2. The real question is will the GPS, bluetooth, and camera work with it properly - which is my complaint about Android. If those 3 things don't also work along with everything else (I *suppose* I could live without the FM radio) - then it's pointless as far as I'm concerned.
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First off - Windows Mobile is NOT open source.
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Yeah i'm hoping he meant the platform is more open, not open source. Quite a difference there.
As far as platforms being open, Android and WinMo are probably on even playing fields. But WinMo probably has more seasoned developers/hackers that know a lot of the tricks with the OS
And actually WinMo may be more open as far as user rights, because google does have the ability to withdraw an app from their store and uninstall it from users handhelds remotely. I don't think MS has that ability from their app store, and they most certainly don't have that ability to uninstall apps loaded from downloaded cabs
Google has already done this once http://www.dailytech.com/Google+Use...+Removal+Tech+for+First+Time/article18843.htm Though it does seem legitimate to protect the users. whats to stop some app, say like DeCSS for decrypting DVDs being deemed illegal, and then google being forced to remove something due to a lawsuit, not because it is in any way is dangerous to a user.
It really rubs me the wrong way for a 3rd party to be able to uninstall and maybe even possibly remotely install code onto a piece of hardware that i OWN!
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Yeah i'm hoping he meant the platform is more open, not open source. Quite a difference there.
As far as platforms being open, Android and WinMo are probably on even playing fields. But WinMo probably has more seasoned developers/hackers that know a lot of the tricks with the OS
And actually WinMo may be more open as far as user rights, because google does have the ability to withdraw an app from their store and uninstall it from users handhelds remotely. I don't think MS has that ability from their app store, and they most certainly don't have that ability to uninstall apps loaded from downloaded cabs
Google has already done this once http://www.dailytech.com/Google+Use...+Removal+Tech+for+First+Time/article18843.htm Though it does seem legitimate to protect the users. whats to stop some app, say like DeCSS for decrypting DVDs being deemed illegal, and then google being forced to remove something due to a lawsuit, not because it is in any way is dangerous to a user.
It really rubs me the wrong way for a 3rd party to be able to uninstall and maybe even possibly remotely install code onto a piece of hardware that i OWN!
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i remember reading that on engadget. google *seems* to be acting in good faith to protect themselves from liability from apps that would violate certain copyright infringements and the like. but i just hope they would use this feature to get rid of all the trashy porn searching programs on the market. steve jobs wasn't joking when he made a comment about that.
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just hope they would use this feature to get rid of all the trashy porn searching programs on the market.
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what right do you or big steve or the chocolate factory have to decide what someone else can or can't search for? who defines "trashy porn"?
first step towards a fascist totalitarian state is controlling the populace's reading/viewing material.
first they came for the pornographers, and no one spoke up, because we werent pornographers
then they came for the app devs they didn't like, still no one spoke, because we arent devs
next they took control of the adding/removing of apps on devices they didn't own, and still we were silent,
when they come for us, who is left to speak out?
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google *seems* to be acting in good faith
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practically every horror story in history can be seen as acting 'in good faith' when viewed from teh correct (incorrect?) stand point. Good faith is no measure of goodness.
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what right do you or big steve or the chocolate factory have to decide what someone else can or can't search for? who defines "trashy porn"?
first step towards a fascist totalitarian state is controlling the populace's reading/viewing material.
first they came for the pornographers, and no one spoke up, because we werent pornographers
then they came for the app devs they didn't like, still no one spoke, because we arent devs
next they took control of the adding/removing of apps on devices they didn't own, and still we were silent,
when they come for us, who is left to speak out?
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its also my right to protect my kids who have droid phones from seeing those types of programs.google should at least have the devs place an "18 and up" disclaimer for these apps. i wasn't too happy to see my lil nephew dl and use one of these apps.
yea, but what does any of this have to do with windows mobile 7 (photon)?
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Does anyone here think it possible, or perhaps even worth developing a windows MOBILE 7 rom for the HD2? Perhaps based on windows embedded mobile? Even better, does anyone care?
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What do you think this would gain you vs. 6.5?
Perhaps more enjoyment of a longer lasting device?
....and FUN! But just imagine, working really hard to create something that no one gives a rats butt about. Thats why I posed the question, would it be interesting, would anyone even care?
Yeah, I know its so locked down and blah blah blah but in all actuality with the amount of support it's getting already it could be an amazing OS. Android didn't get this much love upon initial release. Most people who bought the first run of G1s couldnt tell the difference between a cellphone and a toaster and look where it's at now. WM6.5 is dead... I mean I love it, I love the amount of customization but I would like to have a phone that is relevant again also... In all honesty I wouldnt care if Cotulla released the version that was more or less a glorified feature phone, I would be right on top of it. We all know it will be app-unlocked in time and when thats the case who needs a marketplace? I know HD2 can run android and WP7 but android, regardless of how awesome it is, will always be lacking in the same manner as iphones are in terms of physical appeal. There is none. Just like no other type of phone has a music program that doesnt just more or less suck (If you think iphones music player is just the best then you're likely a tool.) I think that we should be working more on WP7 than gingerbread and its almost non-existent updates.
You can all go ahead and flame me now
Who's this? Steve ballmer?
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Yes, I'd be speaking ill of 6.5 if I was that incompetent republican. I'm not even sure that antique knows what a cellphone is. He probably bought his current one second-hand from Zack on Saved by the Bell.
Android didn't get as much love on the release because it was took up by people that know something. WM7 was taken up with love by people that know no better, unless hacked proper, wm7 will not remain on the hd2 and droid itself is a better system all-round. WM7 is better than WM6.5 yes agreed, but it isn't looking better than droid and probably never will.
Do learn a little bit more before you go ahead and big up an os with gaming capabilities of a comodore 64...wm7 is the touchy feely os for kids and people who know little about smart-phones or are scared by them.
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WM7 is better than WM6.5 yes agreed
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How in the hell could it be better, if it's completly different? It's like if you'd say that green is better than skateboard - makes no sense at all.
The core WP7 might be better than WM6.5.
WP7 was built with only touchscreen phones in mind, whereas WM6.5 can work on touchscreen phones, non-touchscreen phones, PDAs and loads of industrial units. And WP7 isn't designed for many phones, but basically due to the specification laid out by MS, one phone (ie the Windows iPhone).
After all WP7 doesn't have to deal with legacy issues that the more generalised WM6.5 has to.
If MS had just stuck to the core and put on their front, but allowed the manufacturers to put their own front end on (and thus the XDA Developers to really develop the system) then maybe I would be more inclined to move to WP7.
As for the specification, why go down the fixed internal memory? HTC tried it with my HTC Diamond (4GB) only to see an 8GB microSD card come out not long after. Thus the Diamond 2 went back to the microSD card.
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How in the hell could it be better, if it's completly different? It's like if you'd say that green is better than skateboard - makes no sense at all.
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It's from the same OS's branch, (your comparison is wrong) you may say a Modern house is better than a shack, However they're made in a completely different way and structure .
Microsoft's OS will remain Microsoft's. wether they called it Windows Mobile 7 or Windows Phone 7
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lol. that's well put my friend.
IMHO, the entire HD2 comunity will switch to Android,sooner than later,including myself,my son already did,he havent used WM since over a moth now.
The reason is obvious every each one of us had the chance to compare the two OSs side by side,even someone sceptical as myself keeps on visiting to my Android neighbour living on my SD card.well should confess that its already starting to grow on me.
I wish we had the chance to test the WP7 side by side with the Android as well on our HD2,but seems to me that MS may be is not confident enough that His new OS will hold itself against Android,or may be the mnufacturers want to sell more phones.in either case I want to say this:
Our HD2s will wear out in few months,we will need to get new phones,the overwhelming portion of the users will no doubt switch to Android,it is in the interest of MS to port the WP7 full experience not just to the HD2 but to every single phone out there,to IOS devices,Android devices,people must have the chance to see what it is all about.
Looks like the WP7 devices sales are dissmal so far,if it turns out to be a fail,the Manufacturers will be the first to abandon the ship.
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How in the hell could it be better, if it's completly different? It's like if you'd say that green is better than skateboard - makes no sense at all.
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Its like me saying im better sober than drunk.
Its better in my opinion due to its difference so it can be better, its from the same OS maker so how cant it be....that means you cant say one football team is doing better than the other cause they are different....wise up.
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Our HD2s will wear out in few months,we will need to get new phones
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No way man, I think your underestimating the longevity of the HD2, by all accounts it should have died out already, it was saved by droid porting, it wasn't going to have survived with WM6.5, but look it has survived and is still standing up to phones like the EVO and thats something.
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Android didn't get as much love on the release because it was took up by people that know something. WM7 was taken up with love by people that know no better, unless hacked proper, wm7 will not remain on the hd2 and droid itself is a better system all-round. WM7 is better than WM6.5 yes agreed, but it isn't looking better than droid and probably never will.
Do learn a little bit more before you go ahead and big up an os with gaming capabilities of a comodore 64...wm7 is the touchy feely os for kids and people who know little about smart-phones or are scared by them.
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I've got both a nexus one and an HD2 running android and for those of us who are big in the gaming aspects of android sure it's awesome but hell, if that was my core interest I'd sell out and buy an iphone. Call me greedy but I want something functional that also looks clean and iphones jumbled mess certainly never pulled that off, same goes for android, I don't care how many widgets you have on there or anything. I keep a plain black screen with minimal dock options in launcher pro and it is still just unattractive. I'm all for functionality over form but until wp7 it's as though no one ever even bothered trying to make a phone look nice. Windows mobile is still the most functional OS to date if you really know what you're doing but honestly, who wants to play on a system whos best games look like they were released for the sega saturn? Android has all the gaming in the world but is not very pretty regardless of what launcher you use. iOS is just trash, no reason needed. but WP7 may be the first phone that in time has a pretty UI and a great app community and that is what I want in a phone.
We need to understand that we represent a small number of cell phone users. Most are happy with what they get from the manufacturer. A small number of us love hacking our phones and making them do things they weren't meant to do. That being said, comparing OS's is useless. Everyone has different needs and wants. I, for example, don't care anything about gaming on a phone. So Android has no appeal to me (and yes I have owned an Android phone). Each OS appeals to folks with different needs. We are all entitled to our opinion as to what OS we like to use. I am one of those folks still impressed with the HD2. When it is tiime for me to upgrade (and I don't see a need for that anytime soon) it won't be Android. I'll be looking seriously at the Win7 phones or will be returning to Blackberry.
agree with Illusive Man.
I'm using WinMo 6.5 over years now, but I also used iOS and Android due to my work.
iOS is perfect for noob Users. Really, everything you need to know is how to register to the AppStore.
But don't want something special from your phone like to store youre files on a special place...
Android is perfect for Gaming and perfect for all "Open Source is better than Microsoft" users don't forget google won't save your data, and the earth is a disc
WinMo 6.5 is perfect for Business Users espacially when the Business Infrastructure itself is based upon Microsoft/Office/Exchange. Also for industrial Use.
WP7
Microsofts answer to iOS/iPhone. It's simple. When I don't have to take care about that someone put/change Files in my System and don't have to care about supporting so many different phones, than it's easier to bring up a smooth and stable OS
So we see, each OS has it's right to live all over this world, they're different and each user should choose for his own preferences....
PEACE
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How in the hell could it be better, if it's completly different? It's like if you'd say that green is better than skateboard - makes no sense at all.
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I totally agree man, I tried skateboard and it was not for me - but I got into green in late '08 and there is no turning back!
When my co. took away windows phone and went all BB, I did not like bb's and while they improved it was never remotely close enough. Got HD2 when it came out, showed the co. all the productive things I can do with it, still no go - in fact they said "you can have iPhone or BB, pick one now." I took iPhone since at least that helps our bb-centric IT guys get used to pop3 mail handling. But for some odd reason I can't stand iPhone and just love WP7. Maybe it's the difference between built-in Office 2010 mobile w/sync-to-cloud and sync-to-sharepoint, vs... what, angry birds?
You can all go ahead and flame me now
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WP7 Sucks and so do you.
Go buy an iphone.
All in all it comes down to what you want to use it for. When I want to play games with a pocket sized device, I whip out my PSP. When I have to edit a spreadsheet or word document while I just happen to be at my kid's Tae Kwon Do practice it's nice to be able to do that on a pocket sized device rather than lug around a lap top and hope you can find Wifi service.
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WP7 Sucks and so do you.
Go buy an iphone.
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Just about every time Microsoft updates to a new and improved OS, it mucks with the end users ability to change some things.
I guess with Andriod, it will never change in that respect.
I would like to see the capabilities of WM7 but I fear the phones comming out with it are left a bit short even by WM 6.5 standards.
I dont see anything wrong with WM 6.5 as long as I don't bloat it down with alot of shortcuts and what not.
I am not saying the apps and tools here don't cut it... just I would think some body would program each hard key to do funtions like toggle and page flip on shortcuts.
They are there and you dont need to make some new fangled gui or shell.
No I am not a programmer, but it seems so obvious that this is the only touch phone with 5 hard keys. To me that would be pretty damn awsome yet they are so rarely used for anything but short cuts to options that are already available as a sof tbutton or short cut.
Here is my 2 cents.
I was an avid Symbian S60 fan for a good 5 or 6 years, enjoyed playing with it and tweaking here and there, hell, I had it set up as a wifi hotspot long before the mainstream caught wind.
I then went to WinMo 6.1 on my X1, a nice shiny 'new' toy with more bells and whistles than I could ever dream of, I loved it. Unfortunately it seemed O2 and Sony conspired against me, and decided I couldn't have an X1 as a warranty replacement when mine broke. I managed to talk them into giving me a HD2 instead.
There it was, 4.3" of tweakable goodyness. I loved it, and still do, but I've just got bored, or no longer bothered with fiddling. Maybe its my change of career (from IT guy to developer) but I've just lost interest in what my latest gadget can do.
My girlfriend has got hold of a HTC 7 Trophy, and after playing with it for a weekend, I'm pretty impressed. I was one of the first to scream "OMG WTF is that UI all about?", but once in my hand, it is very smooth and intuitive.
Granted, it has it's faults, like no bluetooth contact transfer (you have to put your phonebook in the cloud (LiveMail or Facebook), but overall, its not bad for a locked in system, much to my disbelief.
Its not got features that I need (like the wifi hotspot) and bluetooth file transfers, which are ultimately putting me off for now, but I can see where it's going.
Android I don't think is for me, I've played with 1.6 and 2.2 (froyo) but I just can't get into the loads of homescreens, it just feels cluttered (Yes, I am aware of the one long start menu in WinPho7)
guyz... we should change our thinking style... HD2 has not only the hardware capability of running WM6.5 but also Android builds, iOS, WP7 OS and MeeGO... sooo we must respect this device... till now android is the most usable nd userfriendly OS,now some peoples might like WP7 OS,after this when gingerbread will run fully then we will run it...
after that we will use HONEYCOMB...
i used HD2 in WM6.5 then i loved it...
now running android builds(2builds on 2SD cards) my love is getting deeper and deeper
will love it more and more day by day in future
At the end i wanna say HD2 is a great(1of the best) device we got so far ..
in the near future it will be replaced by multicore 3D screened devices
until then long LIVE HD2 ...
My new HD2 comes in tomorrow. ANd I am looking to take away the stock windows 6.5 and put either windows phone 7 or Andriod on it.
Now I come from using an iphone where i never used the ipod part of it. I did alot of gaming, and mostly organization for my job. It was a good phone book.
I dont use the internet much, so i just want to do basic browsing etc.
Im just not sure on which one is best. I have heard good things about windows 7
Now I am a mac guy, i have not had windows anything for over 10 years. So getting this windows system is it going to mess with my mac with sycing etc?
Just want to hear suggestioons. Thanks!
Apparently you can dual boot that thing
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Android for sure. Check out WP7 if we get the next update.
You will have to have Windows to flash MAGLDR or cLK which ever one you choose to go with as your bootloader. MAGLDR can boot Android and WP7, cLK can only boot Android. I suggest you have a look at the thread I linked seeing as you are running a MAC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039235
My question is this... what I am looking for in a phone. I dont want to have to worry about going form one OS to another.
I do not use the browser a lot. And I am not looking for many 3g apps. I am interested in apps in general.
What Im looking for is just a more organized phone. I loved my iphone for organization. I just hated how they did it (their folders suck).
I enjoy games, and i enjoy apps, dont get me wrong.
I dont facebook, i dont twitter. Mostly this phone will be used as a phone, and calendar and e-mail.
I played around with a windows 7 phone very briefly and LOVED the speed. I felt the layout would take a bit to get use to.
I never really played around with android ever. I have only seen video, and i like the fact that it has live wall paper.. other then that, I did not see anything that said use this!
I just want to make sure i get the OS that I want and is going to be best for me.
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My question is this... what I am looking for in a phone. I dont want to have to worry about going form one OS to another.
I do not use the browser a lot. And I am not looking for many 3g apps. I am interested in apps in general.
What Im looking for is just a more organized phone. I loved my iphone for organization. I just hated how they did it (their folders suck).
I enjoy games, and i enjoy apps, dont get me wrong.
I dont facebook, i dont twitter. Mostly this phone will be used as a phone, and calendar and e-mail.
I played around with a windows 7 phone very briefly and LOVED the speed. I felt the layout would take a bit to get use to.
I never really played around with android ever. I have only seen video, and i like the fact that it has live wall paper.. other then that, I did not see anything that said use this!
I just want to make sure i get the OS that I want and is going to be best for me.
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Best thing to do is just keep the Windows Mobile and dual boot Android from your SD card to getca good feel for how Android is and if you like it or not. Go to the HD2 Android SD development forums and checkout some of the SD cardcAndroid build. Also seens you mentioned games, Android has full flash support so that opens the gaming up a bit for Android. If you don't like Android you can then flash HSPL, MAGLDR, and then a WP7 ROM. Remember you will have to contact Microsoft to get a activation code to activate your live/cloud services, this includes the app market. Go to the HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A and General forums there are plenty of threads there on how to do this, it will not cost you a thing.
If you did like Android though you Can just flash Android to NAND and not WP7.
Now that is what is great about having a HTC HD2!!!!
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I dont facebook, i dont twitter. Mostly this phone will be used as a phone, and calendar and e-mail.
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In my opinion, you should go for WM6.5 or WP7.
Android is all eye candy and nonsense. Sure it can perform serious functions as well but if you want a hard working, organised OS then Microsoft is your friend.
Either that or a blackberry, but I couldn't condone that sort of behavior .......
IMO / JM2C etc....etc....
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I just edited my last message cause the GD productive text on Android. I had meant for my blue text to say "Now that is" not "Now that OS" made it mean something totally different. I absolutely hate the productive text on Android.
To each their own
You would need to BootCamp your Mac to get Windows on a partition to get Stuff Flashed
IMO Android should be the first OS to try out since you never tried it and its a lot easier to setup compared to WP7... Even thou WP7 is simplified the fact that their are bugs in WP7 like SDcard incompatibility and random restarts, there are some Android ROMS that are amazingly stable and you don't have to worry about activation to get the marketplace working
I had Gingerbread on my HD2 and it worked perfectly.. yesterday I switched back to WP7 and at first it would restart after a couple seconds but I somehow managed to get it stable and no more restarts
Sure you can stick with WM6.5 but the fact that you can load up an entire different OS that's newer will have you going crazy and in the end WM and your HD2 will part ways
Im torn between Android and WP7 but since everything is backed up in both Googles and Windows Live Servers I don't have to worry about loosing anything.. Just a matter of flashing and re-syncing
If you are into organization I will try a custom windows mobile Rom. It seems like Android and wp7 is based around entertainment. The office apps suck on wp7 and android.
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Personaly both fit your criteria. However android has a lot more apps than WP7. However you might also like the simplicity and fluidity of WP7. So my suggestion is to simply try each OS. Truthfully do you even really need to get your phone all organized just yet? Will a few days of testing really hurt your life? If not, then just take a few days to test both android and WP7.
To be completely honest with anyone who buys an hd2 just to run one operating system in my mind the big question, WHY?
the hd2 can dual boot perfectly, the hd2 has evolved into the tinker tailors mixenmatious ultimate device.
If you only want Android buy a hd desire.
If you only want wp7 buy an hd7
But if you want a device that can run them all and more, but never quite 100%, where you have to put lots of hours, time and patient into testing constantly changing tweaking and reading, asking questions, failing, crashing, frustration, confusion but overall HUGE interaction with a device. Then you came to the right device the hd2
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Also an iPhone owner here and someone who cares a lot about organization, so perhaps I could give some decent advice.
To start -- I hate Windows Phone 7. Well, perhaps 'hate' is a bit too strong. Maybe it's better to say I really, really dislike it.
The best part about it is that it's ridiculously fast and smooth (maybe even moreso than iOS) and it's a very stylish OS, but many other things are fairly poor. The 'Hubs' style of UI interface doesn't seem to work so well (things got cluttered fast). Furthermore, the Marketplace is terrible; small selection with rather expensive apps and searching through the thing is pretty unintuitive.
There's also a bunch of little annoyances that got on my nerves quickly, such as the 'Resuming' nonsense that ends up forcing me to start over in whatever app I'm using or the fact that IE only allows me to have six tabs or the fact that there's no battery percentage (and no third party app that can access the info either!). Little things like that.
To summarize my feelings, WP7 resembles Android a lot. It sucks in the beginning, but it'll probably get better later on. If you were to ask me, I would wholly recommend installing Android over WP7; Android's Market is pretty horrible compare to iOS, but overall, it's worlds better than WP7.
It also helps that Android doesn't require some sort of special microSD like WP7.
P.S. Regarding potential issues with Mac...I honestly can't offer any advice here. I own a MacBook, but I always do these kind of things on my Windows desktop.
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If you are into organization I will try a custom windows mobile Rom. It seems like Android and wp7 is based around entertainment. The office apps suck on wp7 and android.
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I Agree ......, I am using Android as it looks good and feels good to use android and lot of apps and games ... win phone 7 good but there are bugs knw like camera , no copy paste , and some other stuff that gives me a headache but win phone 7 is much faster than other roms ( for me)
for me Windows mobile 6.5 roms are good but boring
Well, im going to start with trying Android I guess for one week. then Try WP7 for one week. I guess thats the only way... I can see both sides.. but I will only know once i tried it.
If you are a person who uses mostly phone calls and texts, and data and Facebook, then there is not much problem with Windows Phone 7, but you cannot expect anything more from it. Yet to get proper messengers, tethering support, battery questionable.
Whereas Android will play a good part till the latter is developed in the coming days. Android will offer all the functionality and use your HD2 to full potential.
after selling my iphone, i've had this hd2 for 3 months. i customized it as much as possible. i thought i was getting the best phone in the world - i was dead wrong. the hd2 falls WAY short of my expectations. for one, the battery is horrible - lasts 1 day with some use. on the iphone, my batt lasted 2 days with lots of use.
another issue was scrolling, like scrolling through tons of albums. the albums would have to refresh as you scrolled - very slow. on the iphone, the ablums appeared as fast as you scroll. and the menu and typing was not as responsive as the iphone.
but what clinched it for me was the lack of important apps. for some unknown reason, theres no nyc subway map for the hd2 - thats unbelievable!! why is that?? on the iphone, theres literally DOZENS of them.
i know i'm comparing the hd2 to the iphone. but when youre justified in trashing a product, you got no choice but to compare it to something else.
i was thinking about installing android on it.. but android has a windows '95 look to it. the icons look so old and doesnt look as modern as other phone o/ses.
anyway, i'm highly disappointed in the hd2. the only good thing about it is the screen size, thats all. i'm finally selling it - good riddance.
my phone of choice now is the iphone 4... cant wait to get it and feel free again!!!
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after selling my iphone, i've had this hd2 for 3 months. i customized it as much as possible. i thought i was getting the best phone in the world - i was dead wrong. the hd2 falls WAY short of my expectations. for one, the battery is horrible - lasts 1 day with some use. on the iphone, my batt lasted 2 days with lots of use.
another issue was scrolling, like scrolling through tons of albums. the albums would have to refresh as you scrolled - very slow. on the iphone, the ablums appeared as fast as you scroll. and the menu and typing was not as responsive as the iphone.
but what clinched it for me was the lack of important apps. for some unknown reason, theres no nyc subway map for the hd2 - thats unbelievable!! why is that?? on the iphone, theres literally DOZENS of them.
i know i'm comparing the hd2 to the iphone. but when youre justified in trashing a product, you got no choice but to compare it to something else.
i was thinking about installing android on it.. but android has a windows '95 look to it. the icons look so old and doesnt look as modern as other phone o/ses.
anyway, i'm highly disappointed in the hd2. the only good thing about it is the screen size, thats all.
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Your frustrations are the result of your ignorance, not the phone.
Obviously you are unware that Android has literally hundreds of themes that change the way the icons look. You can also add/change widgets and pretty much anything about your UI. You can also tweak settings to get better battery life. You have no clue how to operate Android, I'd suggest you learn before dismissing it.
As far as WM6.5 is concerned, it is an outdated OS with a lack of apps. It has some awesome features, but apps is not one of them. Android will have MORE apps all around than iOS in about 2 months at the current rate and already has more free apps.
You also dismiss WP7, which has growing development and will give you that modern UI you are looking for, if you think Android's icons are anachronistic you should abhor iOS icons, check out Metro UI, you'll love it.
If you are too lazy to learn how to fully utilize this amazing machine, then I suggest you sell your HD2 and go get an iPhone.
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i know i'm comparing the hd2 to the iphone. but when youre justified in trashing a product, you got no choice but to compare it to something else.
i was thinking about installing android on it.. but android has a windows '95 look to it. the icons look so old and doesnt look as modern as other phone o/ses.
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I know they say not to feed the trolls but... Ha.. HAHA.. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
That made my DAY...
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Your frustrations are the result of your ignorance, not the phone.
Obviously you are unware that Android has literally hundreds of themes that change the way the icons look. You can also add/change widgets and pretty much anything about your UI. You can also tweak settings to get better battery life. You have no clue how to operate Android, I'd suggest you learn before dismissing it.
As far as WM6.5 is concerned, it is an outdated OS with a lack of apps. It has some awesome features, but apps is not one of them. Android will have MORE apps all around than iOS in about 2 months at the current rate and already has more free apps.
You also dismiss WP7, which has growing development and will give you that modern UI you are looking for, if you think Android's icons are anachronistic you should abhor iOS icons, check out Metro UI, you'll love it.
If you are too lazy to learn how to fully utilize this amazing machine, then I suggest you sell your HD2 and go get an iPhone.
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calling someone a name here is a violation of forum rules. dont do it again. its so easy to mock someone over the net. but you wouldnt dare say that to my face... and you know it.
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I know they say not to feed the trolls but... Ha.. HAHA.. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
That made my DAY...
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the only troll here is you, for inciting such activity. and your immature behavior proves it.
alright, i'm going to give my hd2 one more chance.. i'll install android.. but on 2 conditions:
1) that i install an android o/s that has excellent batt life and thats fast.
2) that i install a skin for it that looks like stock 6.5.
if any SERIOUS (note the quotes) members here want to recommend any versions based on these conditions, i will install it.
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after selling my iphone, i've had this hd2 for 3 months. i customized it as much as possible. i thought i was getting the best phone in the world - i was dead wrong. the hd2 falls WAY short of my expectations. for one, the battery is horrible - lasts 1 day with some use. on the iphone, my batt lasted 2 days with lots of use.
another issue was scrolling, like scrolling through tons of albums. the albums would have to refresh as you scrolled - very slow. on the iphone, the ablums appeared as fast as you scroll. and the menu and typing was not as responsive as the iphone.
but what clinched it for me was the lack of important apps. for some unknown reason, theres no nyc subway map for the hd2 - thats unbelievable!! why is that?? on the iphone, theres literally DOZENS of them.
i know i'm comparing the hd2 to the iphone. but when youre justified in trashing a product, you got no choice but to compare it to something else.
i was thinking about installing android on it.. but android has a windows '95 look to it. the icons look so old and doesnt look as modern as other phone o/ses.
anyway, i'm highly disappointed in the hd2. the only good thing about it is the screen size, thats all. i'm finally selling it - good riddance.
my phone of choice now is the iphone 4... cant wait to get it and feel free again!!!
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Just for grins, I looked up subway software for WM, found this in a few seconds:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-subway.html
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-visitor-guide-subway-new-york-weekend-2-06a.html
And those are freeware. I'm not sure you looked in the right places.
EDIT: There were also some WP7 titles, but I was looking at WM.
As to scrolling through titles, yes the Iphone will be better there, it is a consumer phone not a pocket PC.
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calling someone a name here is a violation of forum rules. dont do it again. its so easy to mock someone over the net. but you wouldnt dare say that to my face... and you know it.
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To be quite honest, he did not even call you a name . He said you were ignorant. Thats a verb not a noun. Either way, I agree with him wholeheartedly.
This phone is not like any other (not any I know of in this exact replica), it comes with Windows Mobile, but yet you can put almost anything you want on it OTHER than Windows Mobile. Know ANY phone that can do that? No Android phone will run Windows Mobile (not that I think anyone would want to - just saying).
Not to re-state what orange had stated but, you can try Android for FREE. You can try Ubuntu ON YOUR PHONE, for FREE. You can TRY Windows Phone 7, for FREE. Dont have to 'upgrade' (pay 100's) just to TRY the NEW Windows OS...makes sense to me .
Can you do that with the iPhone? No, impossible. You can get a jailbreak that will do what exactly? Get you some apps and wallpapers that you cant do/get normally. How fun.
Not putting down the iphone at all, just stating the FACTS.
Someone once said, ohhh android has all junk apps. For 1, you have to look. For 2, more are free than paid. For 3, iOs you have to pay for what, 75% of what you want to use? Android you can purchase plenty too, and get great apps, but some really nice ones for free where on ios you have to pay...nice
Please do try Android before you dismiss the wonderful phone. Windows Mobile I will agree, was absolutely junk on this phone, I honestly changed (back in the android-sd days where we were booting android from WINDOWS on our SD card. - how awesome) as soon as I could. Never went back. Now, its an Android phone, TRY IT OUT.
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As for the best android? Well, TBH, its different for everyone. Its a WHOLE NEW GAME. Just look at the android section under the HD2 here. Its LOADED with various ROMS, which is WHY ITS AWESOME! You have so many options its crazy. Windows Mobile, you had almost none (various themes, about it). You can almost never brick this phone. READ READ READ ALL the Noob guides, they will point you in the right direction. Flashing an updated radio, bootloader, then rom. Once you figure it out, anytime you want to 'try' something new, it takes all of 10 min., 5 to download the ROM, 5 min for it to install. Thats it.
My bad for long post. Just trying to push ya back over the fence. Its not a bad phone by any means, its a piece of [excellent] hardware (very good for multitasking). Try some new software.
Your right the hd2 is crap. I have a iPhone 3g 8gb in great condition. Jail broken with old fully flashable firmware. Trade ya for your hd2.
“We are legion,”
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To be quite honest, he did not even call you a name . He said you were ignorant. Thats a verb not a noun. Either way, I agree with him wholeheartedly.
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I think thats the end of that argument because I doubt he can come back from facts.
I have no idea how a iphone kid can come here and bash the HD2. Then again I actually wont go into any of that since you guys already nailed it right on the head.
Love this phone and even though I am still on winmo I am still in love with it.....down the road I'll go droid HD2.
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calling someone a name here is a violation of forum rules. dont do it again. its so easy to mock someone over the net. but you wouldnt dare say that to my face... and you know it.
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Your a TIT!
Please PM me and ill give you my home address, You can come round and I'll say worse directly to your face
If you haven't got the intelligence to realise you are ignorant and are missing out on an amazing device I pitty you very much.
It's not the phone's fault. It's yours for trading your blessed iPhone for that sucky HD2. I mean really? You traded a holy iPhone for some piece for garbage? Man, that's the stupidest thing I've ever read.
I mean like dude, don't you know the iPhone is the absolutely best phone you can get? Whatever the version may be. I mean the 1st gen iPhone blows the galaxy s 2 any day.
Anyways enough with my trolling. xD
It is your fault really, you should recognize your needs and desires first. Judging from your personality, attitude, experiences and desires, the iPhone is obviously your device. You don't want to customize, you don't want to hack, so obviously you want a device just to use. So in other words, why the hell did you get a device that wasn't meant for you? Next time, think about what you want before you get it.
From what I've read it's an excellent phone if you're willing to go through the motions and change it. I'm not sure what you have done with it but I'm sure if you had the time you could change it to how you want it.
However, the beauty of the iPhone ( and it's biggest problem) is that it's so controlled that you can have a perfectly consistent experience and it takes little effort (though I would argue the same with WP7, though it has fewer apps).
However if you really do not want it I'm curious as to what kind of HD2 you have and how much you are willing to sell it for.
WOW!!! you are going to sell out ur hd2!!! ... i cant believe it ..i have made up my mind to never sell it (it will like go into the world phone museum cuz this is the device is the starting point of all these new ones) this is the best phone i have ever used cuz it is higly customizable (except for on winmo) ..i am currently on android (NAND) as far as u r searching for a nice rom i would suggest hyperdroid cm7 ...its a pitty that u want to sell ur hd2!!
EDIT:: n what u saying huge battery drain... i just loose 5% in 7 hours of standby and my phone lasts full 1.5 days with heavy usage
Also, if you have problems with the battery life you can get a larger battery ( they do exist and you can get them for reasonable prices on eBay and the like), so you do have options available.
I would suggest to save you the potential of regret to at least try other options like Android ( on which there are a number of excellent launchers that can suit your needs well) and WP7 ( which I personally think has an exquisite UI) on your phone.
siddharth singh said:
WOW!!! you are going to sell out ur hd2!!! ... i cant believe it ..i have made up my mind to never sell it (it will like go into the world phone museum cuz this is the device is the starting point of all these new ones) this is the best phone i have ever used cuz it is higly customizable (except for on winmo) ..i am currently on android (NAND) as far as u r searching for a nice rom i would suggest hyperdroid cm7 ...its a pitty that u want to sell ur hd2!!
EDIT:: n what u saying huge battery drain... i just loose 5% in 7 hours of standby and my phone lasts full 1.5 days with heavy usage
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Hey...can you please tell me...what ROM you have on your HD2 ? Android NAND ?
stevedebi said:
Just for grins, I looked up subway software for WM, found this in a few seconds:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-subway.html
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-visitor-guide-subway-new-york-weekend-2-06a.html
And those are freeware. I'm not sure you looked in the right places.
EDIT: There were also some WP7 titles, but I was looking at WM.
As to scrolling through titles, yes the Iphone will be better there, it is a consumer phone not a pocket PC.
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hi, stevedebi. thanks for replying. i checked out the apps a while ago. theyre old as hell. but i was checking out some android apps. heres one i checked out:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-episode6-android-nycsubwaymap-wE.aspx
it looks modern. i'll be installing android just for the hell of it and download some apps and judge for myself. so lets see.
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To be quite honest, he did not even call you a name . He said you were ignorant. Thats a verb not a noun. Either way, I agree with him wholeheartedly.
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'ignorant' is a verb??? looks like someone here needs english lessons..try learning english before correcting someone who was born in england. and why are you defending him?? you sound interested.
This phone is not like any other (not any I know of in this exact replica), it comes with Windows Mobile, but yet you can put almost anything you want on it OTHER than Windows Mobile. Know ANY phone that can do that? No Android phone will run Windows Mobile (not that I think anyone would want to - just saying).
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huh??
Someone once said, ohhh android has all junk apps. For 1, you have to look. For 2, more are free than paid. For 3, iOs you have to pay for what, 75% of what you want to use? Android you can purchase plenty too, and get great apps, but some really nice ones for free where on ios you have to pay...nice
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thats funny, when i had my iphone i never paid a penny for my apps... i got them off the net.
Please do try Android before you dismiss the wonderful phone. Windows Mobile I will agree, was absolutely junk on this phone.
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wait a minute... if you agree with me about the windows mobile o/s, then why are you bashing me? i dont get it, but to each their own.
My bad for long post. Just trying to push ya back over the fence. Its not a bad phone by any means, its a piece of [excellent] hardware (very good for multitasking). Try some new software.
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and thats why i've requested advice on android builds before i sell off my hd2.
tageeboy said:
Your right the hd2 is crap. I have a iPhone 3g 8gb in great condition. Jail broken with old fully flashable firmware. Trade ya for your hd2.
“We are legion,”
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come on, grow up.
grifter024 said:
I think thats the end of that argument because I doubt he can come back from facts.
I have no idea how a iphone kid can come here and bash the HD2. Then again I actually wont go into any of that since you guys already nailed it right on the head.
Love this phone and even though I am still on winmo I am still in love with it.....down the road I'll go droid HD2.
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i think grifter has a new fan (or possibly more than that.. ha ha), but again, to each their own.
i have no idea how an hd2 nerd can come here and bash the number one phone in the world. but then again, i wont go into that since you guys agree that windows mobile is crap.. but he stilll thinks it isnt for some fanboy reason. gotta feel sorry for the runt.
i love the iphone.. its fast and smooth.. i'll install droid tomorrow and judge it for myself.
hi, guys. i was about to sell my htc hd2 becuz after modding it, it just fell short of my expectations.. it caused huge batt drain and was slow. i want to give it one more chance. i never installed android on it, but i want to. but, i want an android version that:
1) saves battery life the most, and is fast.
2) and one that looks like the 6.5 stock with sense from the hd2.
if any of you can suggest an android version based on these needs, please let me. thanks.
koolxx said:
hi, guys. i was about to sell my htc hd2 becuz after modding it, it just fell short of my expectations.. it caused huge batt drain and was slow. i want to give it one more chance. i never installed android on it, but i want to. but, i want an android version that:
1) saves battery life the most, and is fast.
2) and one that looks like the 6.5 stock with sense from the hd2.
if any of you can suggest an android version based on these needs, please let me. thanks.
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1) "Android" drains more battery than Windows Mobile, always. The reason I quote it is because Android itself doesn't drain more battery, the user drains more battery. Android is much more versatile and user friendly than any other OS out there so you have more things on it and use it more, therefore...less battery life. Sense roms drain the battery even further, more eye candy/features = more drain. Non-Sense roms drain the least battery and CyanogenMod roms (CM/CM6/CM7 as they're referred to) are a little better than Sense roms when it comes to battery drain (most of the time), however, I prefer Sense as it just looks better and has more handy features; for Sense I recommend CMYLXGO's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159) or CoreDroid's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507) --- I personally use CoreDroid's as CMY's has been giving me crashes when changing notifications and sometimes the dialer hangs, CoreDroid is fantastic though and looks nice with the theming, I'll stick to that for quite a while. As for Non-Sense roms, I recommend HyberDroidGBX (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899).
2) As for one that looks like WM6.5, I don't see it happening. None come like that stock that I've seen and I've never seen a theme that looks like it, in my opinion, it would take far too many apps/widgets to make it look like WM6.5 to keep it stable.
In my opinion, if you want to get rid of you HD2 because of the battery life/speed, you won't be happy with another phone ever again.
I assume this is your first 'true' smart phone, their battery is just as good as an old Nokia/Motorola phone when it comes to standby, but what do you expect when you have a screen 4 times the size and features out the ass? If you want a smartphone AND long battery life, there's one solution...use it for Phone calls only (and render it useless as a smart phone in the process)
The HD2 is an extremely fast phone, it was on the top for speed for quite awhile.
The HD2 was meant for Android, why they limited it to WM blows my mind but it crippled it.
Run Android on your HD2 and you'll be happy; Android beats WM in every way possible IMO, they're almost perfectly stable now too. VERY minor bugs left with these Android builds.
1) "Android" drains more battery than Windows Mobile, always. The reason I quote it is because Android itself doesn't drain more battery, the user drains more battery. Android is much more versatile and user friendly than any other OS out there so you have more things on it and use it more, therefore...less battery life. Sense roms drain the battery even further, more eye candy/features = more drain. Non-Sense roms drain the least battery and CyanogenMod roms (CM/CM6/CM7 as they're referred to) are a little better than Sense roms when it comes to battery drain (most of the time), however, I prefer Sense as it just looks better and has more handy features; for Sense I recommend CMYLXGO's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159) or CoreDroid's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507) --- I personally use CoreDroid's as CMY's has been giving me crashes when changing notifications and sometimes the dialer hangs, CoreDroid is fantastic though and looks nice with the theming, I'll stick to that for quite a while. As for Non-Sense roms, I recommend HyberDroidGBX (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899).
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thank you for your good input. i think at this point i'm going to sell my phone. this is just too much for me.
In my opinion, if you want to get rid of you HD2 because of the battery life/speed, you won't be happy with another phone ever again.
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thats not true.. i was checking out my friend's iphone 4 and i got to say, i'm addicted to it.
I assume this is your first 'true' smart phone, their battery is just as good as an old Nokia/Motorola phone when it comes to standby,
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actually, this is my 6th phone.
The HD2 is an extremely fast phone, it was on the top for speed for quite awhile.
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thats not true! the iphone beats it in terms of speed. its been tested and proven. i dont mean to advertise the iphone, but based on what i've experienced with and read about it, it comes on top in terms of speed, apps, battery, and stability.
iPhone is actually slower than the HD2 in terms of specs, iPhones just 'appear' faster because iOS is as simple as Windows 95 and Windows Mobile is as slow as...I don't really have a pun for this one but it's slow.
The battery life is based upon the user, I will admit that iPhone's have a little bit of a better battery life (as long as you don't abuse 3/4G).
Keep in mind, you're basing your assumptions about the HD2 off of WM which is slow and lacking features all on its own.
Hey Koolxx glad to see you in the Android forums.
I truly hate to see you say you are considering selling (I read your other thread in the HD2 General forum too) your HD2 as the HD2 is not just your run of the mill smartphone. It was the first in a new wave of smartphones because of the screen size, screen resolution, and 1gz Snapdragon processor. If you take a look at the new smartphones that have been and are being released after the HD2 you will see exactly what I mean.
I loved and still do love Windows Mobile, it was a pioneer as far as a what a truly functional mobile OS should be and the capabilities it has. I have considered several times going back to Windows Mobile since I made the switch to Android, but have not for several reasons.
1. I just can not bare the thought of having to deal with the quirkiness of Windows Mobile, everyone should know what I mean by that.
2. I truly believe Android is the OS of the future. Android is growing at such a rapid pace it is leaving other OS's behind. One reason for this is not because of the popularity of Android but because Android is a open sourced system meaning anyone who can contribute to it as far as improvements and features can. This is what is meant when you hear "When it is no limits to what Droid gets, it is no limit to what Droid does."
3. Android has way more apps, development, and hacking support than Windows Mobile at this point.
4. I am learning everything I can about Android right now as I want to be a developer.
I could give more but those are the basic reasons. If you are still interested in going Android please click on the link in my sig that says "Guide" at the front. It can help you out a whole lot. Plus I have links in there to two of the best guides on installing Android to your HD2. My guide is meant to be more of a educational tool than a tutorial on how to flash Android or WP7.
I know you said you like the iPhone and Apply does have some good products. But I hate Apply because to me they are totally disrespectful to the consumer, you know the people that actually by their products. If I pay a large chunk of money for a device I want to be able to do what I want to with it. Not be told I can only use it in they way that the manufacture or OS developer wants me to. After all I paid my money for the device so it belongs to me not them. I could go way deeper into the conversation but this post is already massive.
Let me know if I can help you out any.
koolxx said:
hi, guys. i was about to sell my htc hd2 becuz after modding it, it just fell short of my expectations.. it caused huge batt drain and was slow. i want to give it one more chance. i never installed android on it, but i want to. but, i want an android version that:
1) saves battery life the most, and is fast.
2) and one that looks like the 6.5 stock with sense from the hd2.
if any of you can suggest an android version based on these needs, please let me. thanks.
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I am not going to argue about the iPhone. I never used it, I don't like it so I have nothing to say about it.
About android.
Really? You want a build which is themed to look like a WinMo stock? Why?
check this thread to see what Android GUI is about and the endless customizations you can do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743301
I cannot accept the fact that you want to sell your HD2 (the only device that support so many OSs) before even trying Android.
I am using Android since the firsts SD build came out and once NAND was out I have never changed back to WinMo.
Battery life for me is better than WinMo in equal use but as hd2k10 said it is the user who is draining the battery and not the OS.
There are Sense, Non-Sence and MIUI builds.
If you want an iPhone GUI you can always check MIUI builds.
koolxx said:
the iphone beats it in terms of speed. its been tested and proven. i
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By whom and when? IMO iPhone 4 is equally fast as HD2 with stock Android. And YES, I have used iPhone 4 a lot (my father owns it and I'm always helping him with something, intuitive OS my a** ) and both phones are just instant. I mean there is no lag at anything. But often iOS has to load something and you just sit there and admire blank screen before stuff appears. Never seen that on my HD2.
Android is as fast as the device it's running on. HD2 is amazingly fast, and so is OS running on it.
koolxx said:
thank you for your good input. i think at this point i'm going to sell my phone. this is just too much for me.
thats not true.. i was checking out my friend's iphone 4 and i got to say, i'm addicted to it.
actually, this is my 6th phone.
thats not true! the iphone beats it in terms of speed. its been tested and proven. i dont mean to advertise the iphone, but based on what i've experienced with and read about it, it comes on top in terms of speed, apps, battery, and stability.
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I Cam buy your hd2, how much do you want for it?
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hd2k10 said:
iPhone is actually slower than the HD2 in terms of specs, iPhones just 'appear' faster because iOS is as simple as Windows 95 and Windows Mobile is as slow as...I don't really have a pun for this one but it's slow.
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i think youre saying that an hd2 with droid may be faster that an iphone. if thats the case, i might agree with you, since i did see gingerbread 2.3.2 on an hd2 and its just incredibly fast!
The battery life is based upon the user, I will admit that iPhone's have a little bit of a better battery life (as long as you don't abuse 3/4G).
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i've never used 3/4g.. i'm on wifi.
Keep in mind, you're basing your assumptions about the HD2 off of WM which is slow and lacking features all on its own.
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yes this is very true. which is why i'm thinking about instlling gingerbread 2.3.2 that some russian guy called imilka has created. it looks VERY fast. i just hope he updated the cam though.. thats the only thing that worries me cuz the cam runs very very slow.
T-Macgnolia said:
Hey Koolxx glad to see you in the Android forums.
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thanks t-mac.. yeah, hopefully droid can save my hd2 from being sold. lets see.
1. I just can not bare the thought of having to deal with the quirkiness of Windows Mobile.
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yeah i know. winmo was a dissapointment for me.
If you are still interested in going Android please click on the link in my sig that says "Guide" at the front. It can help you out a whole lot. Plus I have links in there to two of the best guides on installing Android to your HD2. My guide is meant to be more of a educational tool than a tutorial on how to flash Android or WP7.
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yeah i'm thking about installing gingerbread 2.3.2. it looks very sleek and modern, unlike the other droid builds that are horrible, that look like win '95 and look so nerdy. and thats for the positive feedback. i will install droid. and i appreciate you helping me. thanks, man.
zach.antre said:
I cannot accept the fact that you want to sell your HD2 (the only device that support so many OSs) before even trying Android.
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dont worry, i'm giving my hd2 a 2nd chance when i install droid. then i'll see if i'll give it the axe or breath of life.
There are Sense, Non-Sence and MIUI builds.
If you want an iPhone GUI you can always check MIUI builds.
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wow, theres more to choose from in terms of builds. i didnt know this. i will be chekcing this out.
Just explain me why do you have to post THREE post one after another instead of ONE?
raven_raven said:
Just explain me why do you have to post THREE post one after another instead of ONE?
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if you dont like the way i post, DONT COME to my threads again. youre a pest. go away troll.
koolxx said:
if you dont like the way i post, DONT COME to my threads again. youre a pest. go away troll.
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Hi,
You should use the multi-quote button instead, thats why is there for. Dont offend anyone, thats one of forum rules. He mentioned about it, cause you should keep forumclear and clean.
Back to topic, if you looking for fast, smooth and stable rom, check that one I have in my sig. I use it for months now and Im very satsified. Only you know, what are you looking for. Every rom thread has description of it, what is working and what is not, screenshots and users personal feelings about it. For me instaling Android from scratch to fully working phone is about 20mins and its not difficult. Just read, read and read again. Good luck
czacha234 said:
Hi,
You should use the multi-quote button instead, thats why is there for. Dont offend anyone, thats one of forum rules. He mentioned about it, cause you should keep forumclear and clean.
Back to topic, if you looking for fast, smooth and stable rom, check that one I have in my sig. I use it for months now and Im very satsified. Only you know, what are you looking for. Every rom thread has description of it, what is working and what is not, screenshots and users personal feelings about it. For me instaling Android from scratch to fully working phone is about 20mins and its not difficult. Just read, read and read again. Good luck
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using the multi-quote button is to my discretion. and the only one insulting anyone here is raven. hes one of the trolls on my other thread that insulted me. if you want to curtail insults, consult with him, not me.
anyway, back on topic. i checked out the rom you suggested. it looks nerdy, no offense. but i was checking out imilka's Gingerbread on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
i like it a lot. but, the camera has issues. and its based on gingerbread 2.3.3.
i want gingerbread 2.3.4, but i want it looking like imilks'a gingerbread. how can i get gingerbread 2.3.4 installed looking like imilka's gingerbread? let me know and i thank you for your input.
koolxx said:
using the multi-quote button is to my discretion. and the only one insulting anyone here is raven. hes one of the trolls on my other thread that insulted me. if you want to curtail insults, consult with him, not me.
anyway, back on topic. i checked out the rom you suggested. it looks nerdy, no offense. but i was checking out imilka's Gingerbread on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
i like it a lot. but, the camera has issues. and its based on gingerbread 2.3.3.
i want gingerbread 2.3.4, but i want it looking like imilks'a gingerbread. how can i get gingerbread 2.3.4 installed looking like imilka's gingerbread? let me know and i thank you for your input.
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Well, everybody got his own preferences regarding to rom. As for you question, you cant have Android 2.3.4 until imilka release update to his rom. Maybe if you ask in his thread, you should get an answer. Besides, there is not much difference between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4. Just small improvements and bug fixes. Give it a try, you want to sell your HD2 anyway.
koolxx said:
using the multi-quote button is to my discretion. and the only one insulting anyone here is raven. hes one of the trolls on my other thread that insulted me. if you want to curtail insults, consult with him, not me.
anyway, back on topic. i checked out the rom you suggested. it looks nerdy, no offense. but i was checking out imilka's Gingerbread on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
i want gingerbread 2.3.4, but i want it looking like imilks'a gingerbread. how can i get gingerbread 2.3.4 installed looking like imilka's gingerbread? let me know and i thank you for your input.
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If you want 2.3.4 you need to go with Unofficial [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940684&highlight=Cynagen+Nighly+7"]Cynogan Nighlies for HD2, NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.7 , or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2. Now as far as getting the look of the Imilka ROM, well his ROM has the look you are talking about because it is based off of the Desire HD and that is the UI the Desire HD has. I do not know if you can get a launcher or theme like that on your HD2 but the chances are very high that you can. You will just have to go into the Android Market and grab some launchers and then look at what themes the launchers offer. Or you can always download a Android Kitchen and start modding the ROM to your liking. Also check out these two sections HD2 Android apps and thems and Android Themes .
T-Macgnolia said:
If you want 2.3.4 you need to go with Unofficial Cynogan Nighlies for HD2, NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.7 , or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2. Now as far as getting the look of the Imilka ROM, well his ROM has the look you are talking about because it is based off of the Desire HD and that is the UI the Desire HD has. I do not know if you can get a launcher or theme like that on your HD2 but the chances are very high that you can. You will just have to go into the Android Market and grab some launchers and then look at what themes the launchers offer. Or you can always download a Android Kitchen and start modding the ROM to your liking. Also check out these two sections HD2 Android apps and thems and Android Themes .
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hello once again, t-mac. and thanks for the support. i checked out the links you posted. the droids look good and similar. ok, i got some questions for you:
1) which do you recommend based on my needs of being very fast, no glitches/bugs, and long batt life?
2) i need launchers that look like the Desire HD. hopefully, there are for this droid.
3) can you tell me the advantages of 2.3.4 over 2.3.3?
4) and i see that you on 2.3.3. any reason why you wont switch to 2.3.4?
5) in imilka's gingerbread based on 2.3.3, why isnt the cam working? is there a fix for it?
6) is v2.3.4 the latest gingerbread version?
koolxx said:
hello once again, t-mac. and thanks for the support. i checked out the links you posted. the droids look good and similar. ok, i got some questions for you:
1) which do you recommend based on my needs of being very fast, no glitches/bugs, and long batt life?
2) i need launchers that look like the Desire HD. hopefully, there are for this droid.
3) can you tell me the advantages of 2.3.4 over 2.3.3?
4) and i see that you on 2.3.3. any reason why you wont switch to 2.3.4?
5) in imilka's gingerbread based on 2.3.3, why isnt the cam working? is there a fix for it?
6) is v2.3.4 the latest gingerbread version?
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1) I recommend Cynogan Nighlies for HD2 ( have not tried yet but will soon) or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2 (I have tried and liked it but I was using MAGLDR).
2) As long as the launcher supports the Android version which most launches support all Android versions including 2.3.4 then you can use them on any android device or Android ROM, you get the lauchers from the Android Market or do a Google search for Android launchers and download the .apk file and put it on your SD card and then use a file explorer in Android to find the apk and open it. Andropid will ask if you want to install the apk.
3) I really do not know all the advantages just yet but I know that you can get a couple of themes on 2.3.4 that you can not on 2.3.3. But i am sure there is more differences than that although I highly doubt they are very drastic.
4) The man reason is becaus I have been real busy around my house lately and have not had time to go to a WiFi spot to download some more ROMs. Plus I have been trying to get a Android kitchen up and running on my computer. But I keep getting a damn Bash.exe error saying cynwin.dll is missing from your computer and I have not been able to correct it yet. So you see I have been kinda preoccupied.
5) This I really do not know, I would have to be able to look at his ROM in a kitchen and also use ADB on it to see if I could track down the source of the problem, might would even have to decompile it. You have to remember the Andriod ROMs for the HD2 all come from other devices so they have to be modded to work with the HD2's hardware.
6) Yes 2.3.4 is the most resent Android phone release and it has not been out very long. You do have Android 3.0 Honeycomb but it is suppose to be just for tablets. But devs have been porting it to phones. The HD2 has a 3.0 honeycomb port but it is still really buggy still.
T-Macgnolia said:
1) I recommend Cynogan Nighlies for HD2 ( have not tried yet but will soon) or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2 (I have tried and liked it but I was using MAGLDR).
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hi, t-mac. at this point, i'm confused. i looked at the droids you recommended and to be honest, i'm just not feeling them. i just want a very fast and reliable droid where everything (including wifi and cam) works with no glitches. and one where i can install a theme that looks like the desire hd. if that means installing 2.3.3 instead of 2.3.4, then so be it. but i got to have these conditions met.
i know i'm asking alot out of you. and i appreciate your time. but i just ask for more recommendations based on my needs. thanks man.