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It seems there's been little interest in previous mentions of WebOS on the HD2, and it's not gone anywhere. I saw that there is development of WebOS for the Hero:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401
I wondered if it would be possible to use this development to port to the HD2 as we already have the android builds running well? Correct me if I'm wrong- i know nothing about developing, I just loved the Pre until I got close to the hardware!
Someone posted earlier today in IRC the root.img and the source code for that. I'm sure Mdeejay could do something with it.
ill eat my own **** if this phone can boot into winmo/wp7/android/ubuntu/ and webos lmaoo jk about the eating part haha
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ill eat my own **** if this phone can boot into winmo/wp7/android/ubuntu/ and webos lmaoo jk about the eating part haha
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Most probably you will sir! You can have as many os as you want and it's possible!
I loved WebOS. Just always wished it was on bigger hardware like our HD2. I would give my left Nut to have a functioning WebOS ROM
Guys why is it soo good ?
What does it have over other OSes
WebOs is the best yet. Just need more hardware behind it..
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Guys why is it soo good ?
What does it have over other OSes
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I've got to admit I've not used it extensively, but I walked into O2 stores and tried the demo phones and it was the most fluid experience I've had. I'd love to try WP7, and of course I've loaded froyo ( and ubuntu) but I've found android frustrating as information just isn't accessible without jumping in and out of an app, and I'm worried WP7 will be similar. No multitasking is a big downer for me- I do loads of work and research on my phone. With CHT2 Sense seems great, if only it was abit more stable! I'm hopeful on that one though! but yeah, WebOS seems so smooth I forgot I was moving between applications.
alleyezondisromo:
Meego too- i nearly went an N900 over the HD2, now glad I didn't!
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Guys why is it soo good ?
What does it have over other OSes
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Go play with one for 10 minutes. You'll quickly see why webOS is a juggernaut among mobile operating systems.
Everything else just feels like **** (pretty much) once you use and have experienced webOS's fluidity and easy of use.
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I loved WebOS. Just always wished it was on bigger hardware like our HD2. I would give my left Nut to have a functioning WebOS ROM
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I agree. My nephew has a Palm Pixi and WebOS is truly sweet. Ever since he got his Pixi I have been yearning for WebOS on my HD2. If the Acer Liquid Stream launcher worked better, it would suffice me. But it has some bad issues.
Can we like start a poll for development of webOS on the HD2?
webOS (sorry Google, sorry Apple) is surely the best mobile OS out there. (I Know, I've had them all).
Well one plus side to it, is it supports homebrewing.
What does it take to code a port like that? A bunch of assembly language programming and hardware interfacing? Honestly I have wanted WebOS on any device for a long time. Since it's based on linux, shouldn't there be a way to somehow set it on top of an Ubuntu build/Android build?
And on top of that, wouldn't HP's legal team be raping anyone who even thought about attempting to port WebOS on anything?
http://www.webosroundup.com/2010/12/hacked-webos-appears-on-htc-hero/
According to this source, the entire development on the hero was a hoax. Can anyone confirm?
Any screenshots??
I would be surprised if HP made any attempts to stamp out a port of WebOS. HP has been supportive of the WebOS homebrew scene, and they need to increase their user base by any means necessary. Just like Microsoft with WP7 it's in their best interest to turn a blind eye to this sort of thing at least until their "ecosystem" has a better foothold.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we have webOS on our HD2's
Its more powerful has a bigger screen and well its an HD2...
the Palms are way to small for such an amazing UI.
Where do I donate to help this along ??????
Forreal..i would also donate myself...
I would love to see webOS on our HD2's. Haven't had the opportunity to use it yet, but I've heard nothing but good things about it. Also heard it's very easy to port iPhone games to and it plays them just as good as the iphone... with HP behind it now, we'll probably be seeing lots of games and apps for that os.
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-30-sdk-preview-2d-3d-graphics-and-dual-core-support-honeycomb
Any one insane enough to try a quick and dirty port?
An SDK port of an unreleased tablet-only OS sounds like a major waste of time to me.
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An SDK port of an unreleased tablet-only OS sounds like a major waste of time to me.
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They did it with the SDK of Gingerbread, and this one will earn the devs some serious props (and mentions from virtually every tech site, I presume).
That might just be me, though. I'd certainly like to see it happen, no matter how unstable or unusable it might be.
I think the port would be more a case of. LOOK WHAT I CAN DO, then any thing else.
(Have a peek at www.twitter.com/blackal1ce , I'm posting up screenshots from the REALLY slow SDK)
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They did it with the SDK of Gingerbread, and this one will earn the devs some serious props (and mentions from virtually every tech site, I presume).
That might just be me, though. I'd certainly like to see it happen, no matter how unstable or unusable it might be.
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They started porting it - as they did with every release before - and got fed up after a while because it's too much effort for something that Google's gonna release a couple of weeks later anyway.
Although the GB SDK port was still majorly flawed, it was at least meant to run on phones with this kind of hardware. Have you seen the previews of Honeycomb? Even if someone did a pretty decent SDK port (which on itself is already quite impossible) it still wouldn't be any good because even our big-ass 4.3" screen is still nothing compared to a tablet. The UI just wouldn't be useable.
And yes I know there's gonna be people willing to give it a shot anyway, and of course that's fine by me, best of luck. Just trying to keep it real here: don't get your hopes up for a somewhat useable port because I don't see that happening before Google decides to put it in AOSP.
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An SDK port of an unreleased tablet-only OS sounds like a major waste of time to me.
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While I agree you couldn't just compile and run this thing on a HD2, it's not just for tablets. It's optimised to be used on higher resolutions and bigger screens, but will still run fine on phones.
I reckon we'll be seeing ports of this in the near future
No, as of now it really is officially tablet-only, and I'm not talking just about the technical stuff. A tablet OS isn't quite useable on a phone, not because you can't run it, but because it's really hard to use its UI.
I did hear originally that is was tablet only, but I've since heard reports that it's viable for phones as well. You know what t'internet's like. I guess we'll only know when it's actually out proper!
Very good news, waiting to see who's the first want to put their hands dirty
Hello all.
So I've been around the forum for a few weeks now, and so far we have booted Kubuntu mobile, Debian, a custom Android version and Ubuntu on our devices.
Maybe they won't work completely, but the people who started it are still working on it.
Now it got me thinking.
Meego, a linux based OS developed for mobile use (example the N900 which also uses ARM chipset) created by Nokia and Intel, could, in theory, work on our devices.
At the moment I don't have any access to a PC where I can try some stuff out ( maybe in a week or so, I'm on vacation).
But maybe someone else could look into it?
I would really like to see the Handset version, and later on the Tablet version of Meego on our devices.
Dympy-
I would love that too. I have used a maemo tablet before my archos and think that meego is way better than android, so I really welcome any efforts to port it.
The openaos guys are working part time on a port but there hasn't been much to use yet.
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The guys from openaos did this already on the Archos Gen7 (A5IT)
I think they could answers many questions about this
But my opinion is, why many developers work on many projects?? Many developers on one project is way better think about this...
After owning and using an N900, I am very reluctant to have any OS developed by Nokia on any hardware. I had such a bad time with Maemo (another OS that Nokia heavily invested in and then dropped in less than a year) that I had to install a hacked Android (NITDroid) OS onto my N900.
Nokia just doesn't seem to make good software these days. I don't know if they ever did.
I think LennB is right. We need more devs working on things like Cyanogen or Ginger/Honeycomb ports. Or even full root without the need for SDE.
That's the "Problem" with open source.
Everybody thinks that his solution is "the cure" and that others are doing the wrong thing.
Thats why most OS Projects are not advancing as fast as they could or will be crap.
Look at OO vs. Libre, so much manpower wasted.
I have to disagree about more devs on one project.
The devs themselves decide what they want to develop, if anyone feels like developing Meego, he (or she) should do that.
Right now I'm reading the ARM wiki of Meego and will see if I can find anything useful.
Dympy-
This is exactly what i was just thinking! I've had my a70 for about a month and i've been busy with school i just started looking through these hacks and i've tried debian. its nice and I was about to start to try to create a ubuntu version but Meego would be much better!
Not sure how far i can get but this is going to be my goal for the summer! =)
First of all, try to build an IMG that can work with the Angström Kernel, after that, you'll be able to boot on it with the OpenAOS Boot menu ^^
Boot to Gecko is coming! if you haven't heard of b2g, its a web based replacement OS designed to take on android, apple and WP7, the exciting thing is, to speed up the release, it is relying on similar linux based processes to run. see here ;
https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G
I'm in no way associated with this project, just wanted you guys to see it. Some industrious developers are already working at a port for the galaxy s2 and the nexus. I know we have talented dev's right here, can we be far behind?
exciting yes??!!
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Boot to Gecko is coming! if you haven't heard of b2g, its a web based replacement OS designed to take on android, apple and WP7, the exciting thing is, to speed up the release, it is relying on similar linux based processes to run. see here ;
https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G
I'm in no way associated with this project, just wanted you guys to see it. Some industrious developers are already working at a port for the galaxy s2 and the nexus. I know we have talented dev's right here, can we be far behind?
exciting yes??!!
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Yeah, true, we really have quite wonderful devs for our G3 community, it shall just be a matter of time, I think
I'm pretty sure that rubbensolie will look forward to boot gecko to our phone ;P
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I'm pretty sure that rubbensolie will look forward to boot gecko to our phone ;P
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I already did look into it actually xD. But no progress, because i think we need another kernel for it.
Ava.tar said:
Boot to Gecko is coming! if you haven't heard of b2g, its a web based replacement OS designed to take on android, apple and WP7, the exciting thing is, to speed up the release, it is relying on similar linux based processes to run. see here ;
https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G
I'm in no way associated with this project, just wanted you guys to see it. Some industrious developers are already working at a port for the galaxy s2 and the nexus. I know we have talented dev's right here, can we be far behind?
exciting yes??!!
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As it is not a different Android version, but a totally different system, it will require developing a new kernel, whole new drivers and of course porting the system.
Kernel and driver developing are much a pain in the a*s, so it won't be "easy" like porting MIUI (i do not mean to offend anyone).
I think it will require months of hard work from a c/c++ skilled dev....
Of course, i would be more than happy if someone is able to state the opposite!
I did a bit more poking around and found that mozilla marketplace (the boot to gecko play store) is now open to devs!
Admittedly this wont be an easy port but the similarities between b2g and android will surely put our devs here ahead of the pack in the race to port b2g. And they are already having a good try on other android devices. I have so much faith in our devs!
https://marketplace.mozilla.org/en-US/login?to=/en-US/developers/
Heres the link
Well, i know how to develop web apps but i don't get the point on mozilla choice...
And performances of webapps in mobile phones are VERY low. I mean REALLY VERY low. At least, they are low until you provide optimized code for the underlying hardware but if you do so, you will need to provide a different interface for every kinf od hardware, ie: you will need to build a kernel with proper dirvers...
I'm not saying it can't be done, of course it can be, but as i stated before, it will be a major work from a skilled dev.
From my point of view, having CM7 /and then 9) fully working is much more interesting than trying to port mozilla OS.
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Well, i know how to develop web apps but i don't get the point on mozilla choice...
And performances of webapps in mobile phones are VERY low. I mean REALLY VERY low. At least, they are low until you provide optimized code for the underlying hardware but if you do so, you will need to provide a different interface for every kinf od hardware, ie: you will need to build a kernel with proper dirvers...
I'm not saying it can't be done, of course it can be, but as i stated before, it will be a major work from a skilled dev.
From my point of view, having CM7 /and then 9) fully working is much more interesting than trying to port mozilla OS.
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Well looking at the work already being done it doesnt look slow, it looks blazing fast! the interface looks brilliant and incredibly user friendly. I am pretty excited about a finished cm9 too but chasing released android firmwares to port is surely not as fun for talented devs as getting in on something at ground level? this isnt even out yet! its not even a blip on apple or androids radar, it is exciting!
its just another option. Im sure it will be something being discussed more and more in the very near future
Updates
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gaia/Hacking
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/nightly/latest-mozilla-central/
Very exited about this project. Even if takes a year to get it working on our phones.
In my opinion I don't think you should over work devs because they work in their own time and users expect them to be robots who just port roms and develop day and night. Let our devs work on their current projects and finish them to a high standard. Its quality over quantity right?
I don't mean to offend anyone. Just voicing my opinion.
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I've got a question I tried to answer myself, but I couldn't resist to post it on the forum.
Is the ICS leak a great step forward for all Atrix users ?
For those who wanted HWA, fingerprint scanner, working camera, of course it is... But is it a step forward for the release of a STABLE CM10 with a STABLE kernel ? This question is more open to a debate than a simple answer.
This leak didn't provide any option for those who have the wrong tegrapart (Mine is OK), or a lapdock, or those who use Chrome and want a generally reliable ROM (Stability, I/O perfs, battery life). They have to make a compromise but we still didn't reach THE ROM(s) that makes everybody happy.
The missing thing to get the ROM(s) that will make us all happy is the kernel source... Why didn't we get it with the ICS leak ? Well let's exclude this question from this thread and maybe talk about it after this debate is (almost) closed.
Personally I'm happy to have this new ROM, it's fast, smooth etc. but my lapdock is still borked so I'm really frustrated not to have this awesome tablet display that works with EVERYTHING but not MOTOROLA's own peripheral... Damn it !
So, what's your case ? Of course you may have found satisfaction with the ICS leak, but are you as frustrated as I am to be this close to the ultimate goal ?
The debate is open, I hope I broke the ice for some people who are in my case and feel like forgotten.
I think that leak does not come with the source code. Thus there will not be any practical improvement right now.
Or, most likely ever. I doubt things will go much farther, and I'm usually the optimistic one
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nope, i think the ics leak was just a one off leak from what motorola actually got round to doing before they abandoned the project, which personally is really bad the roms are just crappy (no offence to developers but the lack of resources means they will always be crappy), everyone says the roms are good but every ics rom iv used is awful, overheating, bugs, battery life sucks, cameras lag, and doesnt compare to a stable cm7 which works completely fine and does everything ics can do anyway.. hmm... i guess everyone just keeps giving themselves false hope, although the possibility of a stable ics is much more than the chance of jellybean & as for the cm10/jellybean thing dont get your hopes up the signs of HWA are non existent and i really dont think they ever will be unless somebody makes a kernel from scratch which for a mobile device would take endless hours of work and testing each boot would probably get your through about 50 atrix phones from hard bricks etc... and i dont think our developers have the time or money to do so... even with donations.
its just not worth it, the atrix is a dying breed if you dont like cm7 then buy a new phone, its that simple, confuses me why everyone acts like cm7 is some sort of bugged crappy software that doesnt work? yet its still a very stable software.
i think everyone should stop concentrating on ICS and jellybean until we actually hear news that will be helpful to creating a stable build and in the mean time focus on improving cm7 with mods and other things, right now cm7 is basically abandoned and the thing its been abandoned for has been on hold for around 3 months.
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nope, i think the ics leak was just a one off leak from what motorola actually got round to doing before they abandoned the project, which personally is really bad the roms are just crappy (no offence to developers but the lack of resources means they will always be crappy), everyone says the roms are good but every ics rom iv used is awful, overheating, bugs, battery life sucks, cameras lag, and doesnt compare to a stable cm7 which works completely fine and does everything ics can do anyway.. hmm... i guess everyone just keeps giving themselves false hope, although the possibility of a stable ics is much more than the chance of jellybean & as for the cm10/jellybean thing dont get your hopes up the signs of HWA are non existent and i really dont think they ever will be unless somebody makes a kernel from scratch which for a mobile device would take endless hours of work and testing each boot would probably get your through about 50 atrix phones from hard bricks etc... and i dont think our developers have the time or money to do so... even with donations.
its just not worth it, the atrix is a dying breed if you dont like cm7 then buy a new phone, its that simple, confuses me why everyone acts like cm7 is some sort of bugged crappy software that doesnt work? yet its still a very stable software.
i think everyone should stop concentrating on ICS and jellybean until we actually hear news that will be helpful to creating a stable build and in the mean time focus on improving cm7 with mods and other things, right now cm7 is basically abandoned and the thing its been abandoned for has been on hold for around 3 months.
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Its not that simple. Once you've had a taste of Android 4.X, its nearly impossible to go back. I'm stuck on Epinter's CM10 because of that, every time I try switching back to a CM7 based rom I find it randomly jittery and with a lot of small annoyances. Both of which I never noticed before trying Joker's CM9.
Even when I switched from CM7 to CM9, I remember CM7 was more or less perfect in its current state. Work stopped on it because there's not much else that can be done with it. Its hit its peak, and for those not spoiled by the more polished versions of Android it is indeed the ideal rom for our device. That does not mean work should stop on ICS/JB, though. The big issue we have is the kernel, of which there are several projects in the works to port kernels from other devices. Its something that'll take (a lot of) time, but long term it'll be much better for our devices than making barely noticeable changes to Gingerbread roms.
With that said, you are right in that the ICS leak is more or less useless without source code. Crappy battery and display issues on some variants of Atrix completely ruin it.
Having the kernel source would solve many issues, but after Motorola abandoned the device it's very unlikely they'll commit any more resources into releasing the half working source code. Of course we'd like to see the source released as it existed under development, but from what I understand, the the source that gets released isn't always exactly the same as what they work with when they compile it and things like extremely helpful comments in the code get removed because of things like NDA's. And although many of the libs and drivers can be extracted from the ROM, the code to use them has been lost.
As it stands, the Atrix Rebirth Project is probably the best chance for seeing a fully functional kernel source for ICS and beyond. But as has been pointed out already, interest in the device has been dying, and even if the project does manage to make it happen, it's not going to happen overnight.
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Its not that simple. Once you've had a taste of Android 4.X, its nearly impossible to go back. I'm stuck on Epinter's CM10 because of that, every time I try switching back to a CM7 based rom I find it randomly jittery and with a lot of small annoyances. Both of which I never noticed before trying Joker's CM9.
Even when I switched from CM7 to CM9, I remember CM7 was more or less perfect in its current state. Work stopped on it because there's not much else that can be done with it. Its hit its peak, and for those not spoiled by the more polished versions of Android it is indeed the ideal rom for our device. That does not mean work should stop on ICS/JB, though. The big issue we have is the kernel, of which there are several projects in the works to port kernels from other devices. Its something that'll take (a lot of) time, but long term it'll be much better for our devices than making barely noticeable changes to Gingerbread roms.
With that said, you are right in that the ICS leak is more or less useless without source code. Crappy battery and display issues on some variants of Atrix completely ruin it.
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hmm i used pinters cm10 for a week and went back to MROM cm7 and customised it to my liking with ICS themes and text changers, looks just like ICS runs just as smooth as a buggy JB rom, thats the problem the performance of CM10 roms without HWA is about the same as a good CM7 rom... just with a few features like google now which nobody really uses anyway, although i understand where your coming from when it comes too the UI and animations on JB roms they are very nice but id rather sacrafice them and have a phone that will work 100%
I'm very naive to the inner workings of android
I also returned to mrom from epinters cm 10 and icsrom because of lack of camcorder or terrible battery life.
Now with mrom I have a very smooth launcher and all apps working. I do miss jellybeans nice interface, but what are the more fundamental improvements that gingerbread lacks? Besides feeling outdated and old of course :/
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Zero usefulness. Novelty item at best.
It's interesting to read opinion of no-developers is it something useful or not. Only developers could say something about it. Also most of you are so pessimistic, complaining that developing is dying.
xda-developers is for site and forum for developers. If you think that developing is dying, come on, do something about. Join Atrix Rebirth Project, start to learn how to develop kernel and rom. There is a lot of guides here and on Internet. Instead of spending time on forum and waiting that someone else do it for you and for free. If you don't have time to learn, contribute on another way: support developers, donate money or device, try to find solution, use your contacts to get leaked sources...
The easiest way is to buy a new device and start complain after a while
I have been very pleased with the stock GB rom. I have a Nexus 7 and an old HTC Aria, both running the latest version of JB and, other than a more up-to-date appearance, there's really nothing I can't do on the Atrix that I can do on the JB devices.
Its amazing what the developers have been able to do with the HTC Aria. It has very little memory, but they have created virtually unlimited program memory by using an extended partition on the SD card. The Aria also runs JB almost flawlessly.
If JB could run on the Atrix 4G the way it runs on my Aria, I would use it. But from what I've read, it has a long way to go. I am not even sure I would even be able to root my Atrix, which has the latest GB update from Motorola.
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Slymayer said:
I've got a question I tried to answer myself, but I couldn't resist to post it on the forum.
Is the ICS leak a great step forward for all Atrix users ?
For those who wanted HWA, fingerprint scanner, working camera, of course it is... But is it a step forward for the release of a STABLE CM10 with a STABLE kernel ? This question is more open to a debate than a simple answer.
This leak didn't provide any option for those who have the wrong tegrapart (Mine is OK), or a lapdock, or those who use Chrome and want a generally reliable ROM (Stability, I/O perfs, battery life). They have to make a compromise but we still didn't reach THE ROM(s) that makes everybody happy.
The missing thing to get the ROM(s) that will make us all happy is the kernel source... Why didn't we get it with the ICS leak ? Well let's exclude this question from this thread and maybe talk about it after this debate is (almost) closed.
Personally I'm happy to have this new ROM, it's fast, smooth etc. but my lapdock is still borked so I'm really frustrated not to have this awesome tablet display that works with EVERYTHING but not MOTOROLA's own peripheral... Damn it !
So, what's your case ? Of course you may have found satisfaction with the ICS leak, but are you as frustrated as I am to be this close to the ultimate goal ?
The debate is open, I hope I broke the ice for some people who are in my case and feel like forgotten.
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Yeah right ! talking about this leak ... is a >small< step foward !
Just imagine Michael Montuori out of here, Or the Bill ?! epinter !? Faux, or jocker that has made a wonderfull job and the other in the early days of the atrix .... all source code builder out of this atrix family at once !
Well ... Motorola doesnt have a great support for the moment ! as their Blur OS is ****ty slow ! :S
I own a Car dock, A HD Multimedia Dock and a great lapdock !
I approve that this is still frustrating (and i know the devs out there are NOT getting Paid enough for a better work than MOTOROLA itself,) that motorola own product doesnt have support yet ! but still have on a direct DHMI cable straight to the tv !! WTF ?!?!!
Well, its not going to change anything here, i mean this thread ... but .. well .. you know ! YEAH its awkward and " fais chier bordel" hahaha
Our devs are GREAT but unfortunately, we still need that damn MOTO support for their drivers source for the new OS :S
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Well, its not going to change anything here, i mean this thread ... but .. well .. you know ! YEAH its awkward and " fais chier bordel" hahaha
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I would even say "Bordel à couilles de constructeur de mes deux !". I'm writing this using my lapock... On my tiny screen, with my main screen at 45° so I can still read what I'm writing. I dreamt about WT3.0 with working LAPDOCK, it would have been so gorgeous, but it's currently not happening. "Nique cette merde !", I'm buying a Windows Phone next year when the ecosystem gets more apps and stuff. The news are getting warmer for this OS ! The amazing keyboard made in WP7/8 will replace my lapdock I use as a keyboard.
Development IS actually dying, look at the Atrix 4G development section where there used to be several ROMs under active development there are now just a few. Nearly everything that can be done has been done with the exception of what the Atrix rebirth project is doing. But there is no guarantee of success. If you have the money or a device to donate to the rebirth project, great, by all means go for it. Maybe one of the other tegra based moto devices might help a bit too. Unfortanately I think it's pretty hard to hold any level of optimism for the device after such a long string of let downs.
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I see the ICS leak as interesting but not overly useful.
Now, if they'd also leaked the source code, I don't doubt that the devs could have created a fully-features and stable ICS/JB within a couple of months. However, with no source for such a buggy leak, we're reliant on a few people trying to create a kernel almost from scratch. I wish them well, but I'm not holding my breath...
When you feel like the development is hopeless , waste all of your time and try fixing things yourself get a new phone.
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When you feel like the development is hopeless , waste all of your time and try fixing things yourself get a new phone.
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Like you? And you think that you're smart. That's exactly what vendors wish, get a new device. Bravo
Edit: With your latest posts in Atrix forum you're the same as maggedo or member with Atrix in name. Ups, you have Motorola
How long N4 will be the best device for you? What I see not so long
I think it's interesting how people work:
First everyone was crying about the fact, that Motorola left us out in the cold and now that we have a actually really good leak, people cry that it's not good enough... That's just sad. The leak is useful and it's a big step into the right direction. A lot of people put in hours of work for you (and for FREE!!!), to make this leak better. All you need is PATIENCE. Be grateful that some devs stick to this EOL-device and provide great work for us.
-Just my 2 cents-
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BravoMotorola said:
When you feel like the development is hopeless , waste all of your time and try fixing things yourself get a new phone.
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And... What about people who can't get a new device ? I bought mine like 6 months ago, it was for my birthday and I can't waste money on a newer phone like this.
But there must be some kind of "break-even" ahead.
How many hours of work and energy may be put from the most "valuable brains" into the leak (without having sourcecode), until they must decide: "enough is enough, it just will never turn out as "stable"?
From what I've understood there exists some good chances that maybe some day valuable parts of the XOOM kernel get migrated to the Atrix (see respective thread under development area).
May the last remaining devs of a dying device - whose work I greatly respect and appreciate! - join forces and turn more efforts into porting the xoom?