Hello I have Novathor U8500 device Xperia U with dual core processor and Mali 400 GPU.
Problem is as title says most simple games lag while heavy one are working great.
By doing some tests I found phone can't push more than 58 fps,no matter phone sometimes simply jumps to 90 then below 30 and I can't debug this.
I'm asking is there any way to fix this or cap fps to for ex. 55 fps.
Thanks.
XperianPro said:
Hello I have Novathor U8500 device Xperia U with dual core processor and Mali 400 GPU.
Problem is as title says most simple games lag while heavy one are working great.
By doing some tests I found phone can't push more than 58 fps,no matter phone sometimes simply jumps to 90 then below 30 and I can't debug this.
I'm asking is there any way to fix this or cap fps to for ex. 55 fps.
Thanks.
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i think u can enable v-snyc somewhere.. i just dont remember how to do it..
kopter36 said:
i think u can enable v-snyc somewhere.. i just dont remember how to do it..
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Its enabled but graphic card is not stable and I can't stabilize it.
Try forcing GPU rendering?
Use pimp my rom and disable vsync
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ajeteja said:
Use pimp my rom and disable vsync.
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Its not so simple also it doesn't work.
Enabling GPU Rendering also not helping.
This is my last time buying Mali phone
looks like maybe ics might help...
http://communities-origin.sonyericsson.com/thread/64517
n3wt said:
looks like maybe ics might help...
http://communities-origin.sonyericsson.com/thread/64517
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Its not that problem yes they fixed lagging in some games but not in entire system,I am using CM9 right now but problem still occur,I can't scroll home screen without lag even simple scrolling like in Root Explorer lags.
I'm not sure what to do beside buy new device.
have you tried stock ICS?
n3wt said:
have you tried stock ICS?
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Yes I did all a viable versions but none is smooth.
XperianPro said:
Yes I did all a viable versions but none is smooth.
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Hmm strange.. Im not an XP user but i have XSOLA.. As i know they share very2 same hardware n spec xcept for the illumination and floating touch.. I've tried several rom like FXP 207,eXperience v2.1,MiUI and more but i dont have that kind of lag.. Usually right after i flashed a new rom i will debloated as much as i can then reboot into CWM and wipe cache and dalvik.. I admit some simple 2D games got a lag but none in UI.. Maybe your CPU governor?
CPU throttling due to temperatures?
CPU Bottleneck?
you cant just jump to the conclusion that mali devices are bad lol..
spazzy1912 said:
CPU throttling due to temperatures?
CPU Bottleneck?
you cant just jump to the conclusion that mali devices are bad lol..
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You sure it happens all the time,even when its 30 degrees.
XperianPro said:
You sure it happens all the time,even when its 30 degrees.
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hmm, very strange.
anyone else with your device having similar issues?
any other mali devices with these issues?
spazzy1912 said:
hmm, very strange.
anyone else with your device having similar issues?
any other mali devices with these issues?
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Yes it is strange,even my old Xperia X8 is somewhat "smooth" I mean simple actions like scrolling are smooth while on Xperia U are not. :silly:
XperianPro said:
Yes it is strange,even my old Xperia X8 is somewhat "smooth" I mean simple actions like scrolling are smooth while on Xperia U are not. :silly:
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might be some software optimisation issues? :S
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might be some software optimisation issues? :S
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I thought that too.
But why company would launch phone that lags?
XperianPro said:
I thought that too.
But why company would launch phone that lags?
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hmm, so you have tried factory resetting?
is it still under warranty? try sending it back :S
spazzy1912 said:
hmm, so you have tried factory resetting?
is it still under warranty? try sending it back :S
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I'm using CM9 and my friend U has got same problem.
Related
it is true gameloft nova hd run galaxy 5 watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4wffRKZ-Yc&feature=youtube_gdata_player but why its not running galaxy 3
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galaxy 5 has a different cpu with 3D gpu...
hodostamas said:
galaxy 5 has a different cpu with 3D gpu...
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Correct..thats why
Galaxy 3 complete blog
I try it and doesn`t work...still white textures and not full screen...so is not playable..if you find a good game for our resolution we ``maybe`` can play it...At this moment i wait for tom3q drivers for galaxy spica(he said we can use it too cuz is same cpu but he need some g3 devs to help him.I think marcell is the best in this cause).
clarkkov said:
AND FOR THE LAST TIME: SG3 HAS A GPU! It uses ARM11 chipset GPU - which is very bad, other low end phones use Adreno 200 (or similar GPUs) which are much better.
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lol yeah i find many ppl say "NO GPU" that makes me laugh.
Thanks for letting them know
clarkkov said:
Yeah, I posted this a couple of times but people still believe it's otherwise :/
Shame it's so slow, 14 fps in benches where sg5 and se x8 get 40+ fps.
Sent from my Nexus 3
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maybe they got a better gpu but its not like we dont have one..
saying that would be so lame
nova have been optimised on devices with resolution 320x240 and yes they will ork on our device and you need to use chainfire3D. Nova runs well.
It does not work
it doesnt work
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It does not work
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...........me too
clarkkov said:
For this game to run properly on SG3 it needs to be ported to it. The same goes for NFS Shift and other cool games.
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Where can i found game like nfs shift for g3 ?
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why would you open a thread that doesnt solve anything.. at all.
Will try to contact him too, games look awesome
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Lol prob at 5-6 fps but lets wait for tom to make it better.
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Why is it when there are any articles on the Xperia Play the comment sections are always full of "know it all's" that slag the device off without even trying it?
Take a look at Eurogamers new article for example then go down to the comments section - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-06-sony-ericsson-no-need-for-xperia-play-2
grrrrrrr
just a tip,1.6 GHZ is abit to hot.I've being using 1.4 and 1.5 and they work just as great
Also,ignore the comments,IRL if you show your hacked/Modded PLay their brains would go out the window
Atleast thats whats happened to me once i showed how fast it was,oh and gamepaddd
Cat_On_Droid said:
just a tip,1.6 GHZ is abit to hot.I've being using 1.4 and 1.5 and they work just as great
Also,ignore the comments,IRL if you show your hacked/Modded PLay their brains would go out the window
Atleast thats whats happened to me once i showed how fast it was,oh and gamepaddd
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I've actually put mine down to 1.4ghz only to try and balance the battery a bit as 1.6ghz was going through the battery rather quickly!
FK1983 said:
I've actually put mine down to 1.4ghz only to try and balance the battery a bit as 1.6ghz was going through the battery rather quickly!
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Lowering the voltages will have a better effect on battery than lowering the clock speed
can't blame them for wanting more power.but..
whats the good of dual core if you just use is to call and text people
They are just jelly because they don't have one.
subcu1ture said:
They are just jelly because they don't have one.
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+1 Totally agree
AndroHero said:
Lowering the voltages will have a better effect on battery than lowering the clock speed
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What do you have yours set to? when I tried it I froze the screen so had to reboot!
Yeah, the nobs probably don't have one and are jealous because they signed a 4 year contract and still paid 400 for an iphone that is obsolete this month or next.
FK1983 said:
What do you have yours set to? when I tried it I froze the screen so had to reboot!
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Same here xD
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Problem its people look at specs and benchmarks and never do their own research, very annoying that people including supposedly respectable reviewers are too bothered about the silly specs!
IMO this phone is better than any I've tried, sensation, galaxy s2, desire hd and s none hold up to the gaming and general experience of the XP, just need more advocates like us!
Sony have done really well with the software and all the xda people make things loads better!
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Zombie iPhone fanboys, don't even bother reading their comments.
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people look at specs and benchmarks and never do their own research
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Ditto.
People using 'single core' as an argument against it automatically revoke any chance that their opinion is reputable. People who know what they're talking about know it has some blazing fast high-quality memory and acceleration that's great enough to keep it's performance right up there with the dual cores.
Samurai II on Xperia PLAY runs just as smoothly as it does on the Atrix.
Don't mind them.. I came from iPhone also, but nothing compares our phone for now.. I know deep inside of them they want this phone too, they just dont admit that they made a wrong decision by choosing their current phone over this..
I’m happy with it and that is all that matters to me.
Hello,
Sorry for new thread but i cant write in ICS because of 10 post limit...
I Got a very annoying lag when i wakeup to phone... Its remain until i move to cursor 1-2 sec. There is a way to fix it ? Its not just in aurora miui same... i really hate that lag...
Sorry for my bad english....
Best regards...
Change your governator to SmartassV2
Min clock freq: 368MHz
Max clock freq: 1.2GHz
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Change your governator to SmartassV2
Min clock freq: 368MHz
Max clock freq: 1.2GHz
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I tried that when i am using miui but not worked even performance governor. I Cant change cpu settings o aurora so i cant try on aurora...
OFFlee said:
I tried that when i am using miui but not worked even performance governor. I Cant change cpu settings o aurora so i cant try on aurora...
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install No Frills CPU or SetCpu and you can change the default clock settings.
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install No Frills CPU or SetCpu and you can change the default clock settings.
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I tried but not worked even minimum 1.2 Ghz...
Try Zephyr1988 scripts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710233
The package has loopy smoothness tweak that should fix the lag.
Ryoupe said:
Try Zephyr1988 scripts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710233
The package has loopy smoothness tweak that should fix the lag.
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Not worked
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Not worked
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Try reinstalling the ROM with all wipes. I assure you lockscreen has absolutely no lag, even with 300Mhz minimum CPU (will post a video in a while)
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Try reinstalling the ROM with all wipes. I assure you lockscreen has absolutely no lag, even with 300Mhz minimum CPU (will post a video in a while)
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As i say, when i move to circle 1-2 second lag is gone but first 2 sec its like 3-4 fps...
Edit: I ask other users too they got this lag too... Maybe its about screen.. My phone has atmel...
It's inherent to the OS. There is nothing you can do.
OFFlee said:
As i say, when i move to circle 1-2 second lag is gone but first 2 sec its like 3-4 fps...
Edit: I ask other users too they got this lag too... Maybe its about screen.. My phone has atmel...
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That's a good point... maybe it's really a problem with AMTEL screens... I have synaptics, and, as you can see in this video, I have absolutely no lag whatsoever :S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVtJuQVZT1E
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It's inherent to the OS. There is nothing you can do.
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Thats hurt Thanks anyway
I have a synaptics touch and I also have lag.
That YouTube video is useless because it's obvious that if you don't have lag with the screen on, it not simply locking the screen that it will get lagged.
As far as I know it's been like this forever and there are several topics discussing this.
If the phone enters deep sleep, sometimes the touch events will lag a lot and it seems to stop detecting multi touch points. Sometimes locking and unlocking seems to avoid that problem.
I have a PIN unlock and this really bugs me but it's been like this forever, so I take it as a consequence of owning budget phones.
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That's a good point... maybe it's really a problem with AMTEL screens... I have synaptics, and, as you can see in this video, I have absolutely no lag whatsoever :S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVtJuQVZT1E
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Atmel here with scripts and no lag.
Ryoupe said:
Atmel here with scripts and no lag.
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Without scripts ?
I had little lag without the scripts
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VuDuCuRSe said:
I have a synaptics touch and I also have lag.
That YouTube video is useless because it's obvious that if you don't have lag with the screen on, it not simply locking the screen that it will get lagged.
As far as I know it's been like this forever and there are several topics discussing this.
If the phone enters deep sleep, sometimes the touch events will lag a lot and it seems to stop detecting multi touch points. Sometimes locking and unlocking seems to avoid that problem.
I have a PIN unlock and this really bugs me but it's been like this forever, so I take it as a consequence of owning budget phones.
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Not really, my phones sleeps like a baby, and I never experience any lags... I don't know what the problem is, but I have never noticed it. Also, I use use init.d scripts, and they don't seem to have any adverse effects whatsoever. Don't know how to help, but I'm sure this is not a general problem...
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I installed supercharger its not work too... But i find something, when i touch somewhere from screen (not circle) lag is gone... iam continue searching around web but not yet find anything usual...
try this
go to settings--> all the way down settings for developers i think seccond from the end, go again all the way down and find background process limit, make it 2 or 3 i hope i helpd
tixo-tixo said:
go to settings--> all the way down settings for developers i think seccond from the end, go again all the way down and find background process limit, make it 2 or 3 i hope i helpd
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Thanks for advice m8... But its not worked too Btw iam waiting more advice until fix this issue... Too much people will glad...
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I am having problems with games running very slowly, it seems the more simple the graphics are the worse it is
Eg "Clear Vision" runs really badly as do a lot of the games from the latest Humble Bundle but gfx intensive games like Shadowgun seem to run fine!!
Anyone got any ideas?
Define "running badly". Display corruption? Tearing? Banding? Lag? Fuzzy?
The only thing I've had is fuzziness. Some apps don't scale well to our extremely high resolution.
jamesp141 said:
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I am having problems with games running very slowly, it seems the more simple the graphics are the worse it is
Eg "Clear Vision" runs really badly as do a lot of the games from the latest Humble Bundle but gfx intensive games like Shadowgun seem to run fine!!
Anyone got any ideas?
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Many Android games are yet to properly handle the N10's resolution, or badly optimized anyways, the HW can handle everything, the problem lies at the developers,.
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Many Android games are yet to properly handle the N10's resolution, or badly optimized anyways, the HW can handle everything, the problem lies at the developers,.
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Sorry, they just seem to run really slowly, they look good, no fuzzyness they just run/render very slowly
jamesp141 said:
Sorry, the just seem to run really slowly, they look good, no fuzzyness they just run/render very slowley
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This video claims otherwise
Beach Buggy Blitz and Riptide - both set to max graphics - run very well here. Don't have the Tegra3 special effects but look otherwise even better to me than on the Nex7.
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This video claims otherwise
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Dont get me wrong im not trolling, a lot of games run really well but I have come across a few that dont and it seems to be the more basic graphics games that dont.
Try running: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEwMiwiYWlyLmNsZWFydmlzaW9uMTJwbHVzIl0.
and you will see what I mean
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Dont get me wrong im not trolling, a lot of games run really well but I have come across a few that dont and it seems to be the more basic graphics games that dont.
Try running: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEwMiwiYWlyLmNsZWFydmlzaW9uMTJwbHVzIl0.
and you will see what I mean
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the force gpu acceleration option in the developer settings seems to make them run a little better
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Dont get me wrong im not trolling, a lot of games run really well but I have come across a few that dont and it seems to be the more basic graphics games that dont.
Try running: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEwMiwiYWlyLmNsZWFydmlzaW9uMTJwbHVzIl0.
and you will see what I mean
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Just tried it, must be a bug because the videos are normal speed, as is the game, but the menus animate in slow mo.
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Just tried it, must be a bug because the videos are normal speed, as is the game, but the menus animate in slow mo.
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Yeah thats what I get, im guessing we just need to wait for app devs to catch up.
the the force gpu acceleration option has vastly improved some games so this might be a work around if anyone else has any issues :laugh:
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You may realise no special effects are enabled
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I would worry about running games at 2560x1600 on a PC, the fact that we're doing it on a tablet is crazy.
jamesp141 said:
the force gpu acceleration option in the developer settings seems to make them run a little better
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Where is the developer settings located?
lse4 said:
Where is the developer settings located?
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It`s hidden by default and made visible by tapping on Build number in About Tablet in settings 7 or 8 times
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It`s hidden by default and made visible by tapping on Build number in About Tablet in settings 7 or 8 times
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Thanks
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You may realise no special effects are enabled
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I turned on Max settings in dead trigger after. Still smooth
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italia0101 said:
I turned on Max settings in dead trigger after. Still smooth
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Dead trigger isnt really that cutiing edge imo
But still u got a pt
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Guys i want to upgrade from my galaxy nexus.i have some questions. How is build quality? It will break in just one drop? Does it scratch easily?i mean both back and display..does it get very hot during games? Are there any problems with this device?i am afraid of this nexus being LG( i am not sure about device quality..the main reason i am switching from galaxy nexus is display problem.it got burn in problem on bottom of navbar....please help me. thanks in advance:thumbup:
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Nightwish sgsl said:
Guys i want to upgrade from my galaxy nexus.i have some questions. How is build quality? It will break in just one drop? Does it scratch easily?i mean both back and display..does it get very hot during games? Are there any problems with this device?i am afraid of this nexus being LG( i am not sure about device quality..the main reason i am switching from galaxy nexus is display problem.it got burn in problem on bottom of navbar....please help me. thanks in advance:thumbup:
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It slipped out of my (very dry) hands three times yesterday, nothing happened! Very proud of her actually. Simple case on it.
It might scratch, yes. Need to be careful. Small scratch at the front, had one on the gn too.
Best phone I ever owned, go for it!
thanks bro for reply. does this phone have usb on the go?)in some forums it says not.and does it have screen problems like we have on gnex?
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thanks bro for reply. does this phone have usb on the go?)in some forums it says not.and does it have screen problems like we have on gnex?
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No, can't burn in because it's lcd. I think..
Usb otg: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048545
[Dev] USB OTG Tests
hmm)do you play heavy games from gameloft or ea games?or from nvidia?
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hmm)do you play heavy games from gameloft or ea games?or from nvidia?
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There's nothing the phone can't handle mate. Temple Run 2 on max quality, no problem. Haven't heard of any issues for others either. Which games do you mean? I can try one.
Battery is also great compared to the gn, even the gsm gn that I had.
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hmm)do you play heavy games from gameloft or ea games?or from nvidia?
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Yes, I've tried:
NFS Most Wanted
GBA Emulator
Dead trigger(max graphics)
Temple run 2
Riptide
contract killer zombies 2
Dead space
Amazing spiderman
Deadzone
rayman legends
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Yes, I've tried:
NFS Most Wanted
GBA Emulator
Dead trigger(max graphics)
Temple run 2
Riptide
contract killer zombies 2
Dead space
Amazing spiderman
Deadzone
rayman legends
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Aaand..?
i know it can handle everything.its bloody beast )) but i want to know.is it getting very hot while gaming?
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i know it can handle everything.its bloody beast )) but i want to know.is it getting very hot while gaming?
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On stock kernel probably yes. But I only stayed on it for about 4 minutes so I wouldn't know..
Nah, flash franco or trinity and you're good to go.
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i know it can handle everything.its bloody beast )) but i want to know.is it getting very hot while gaming?
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It would get warm, but not too warm because the thermal throttling prevents the heat from getting too ridiculous by ramping down CPU speed which in turn shows up as stutter in intensive games.
Run custom kernels to get through this problem. =)
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i know it can handle everything.its bloody beast )) but i want to know.is it getting very hot while gaming?
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On stock it'll get hot. However, with custom kernel I lowered the GPU's clock, lowered max freq and lowered the voltaged via faux clock and now it rarely exceeds the 30-40C range. Also some of the games I listed are very basic(rayman, temple run, etc) and don't require much power, heck you can play a lot of these on a galaxy S1.
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Aaand..?
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I've tried more but listing them would be unnecessary.
Ace42 said:
I've tried more but listing them would be unnecessary.
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I mean, they run flawlessly, no?
okay bro)thanks .i think i am coming to Nexus 4
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I mean, they run flawlessly, no?
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Of course, it's just that some games get very boring/repetitive. Dead Trigger for instance doesn't have a large variation in levels, which is also an issue with contact killer.
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okay bro)thanks .i think i am coming to Nexus 4
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You won't regret it. Hope you can get one soon!
i hope so )