Games running very badly - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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I am having problems with games running very slowly, it seems the more simple the graphics are the worse it is
Eg "Clear Vision" runs really badly as do a lot of the games from the latest Humble Bundle but gfx intensive games like Shadowgun seem to run fine!!
Anyone got any ideas?

Define "running badly". Display corruption? Tearing? Banding? Lag? Fuzzy?
The only thing I've had is fuzziness. Some apps don't scale well to our extremely high resolution.

jamesp141 said:
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I am having problems with games running very slowly, it seems the more simple the graphics are the worse it is
Eg "Clear Vision" runs really badly as do a lot of the games from the latest Humble Bundle but gfx intensive games like Shadowgun seem to run fine!!
Anyone got any ideas?
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Many Android games are yet to properly handle the N10's resolution, or badly optimized anyways, the HW can handle everything, the problem lies at the developers,.

BoneXDA said:
Many Android games are yet to properly handle the N10's resolution, or badly optimized anyways, the HW can handle everything, the problem lies at the developers,.
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Sorry, they just seem to run really slowly, they look good, no fuzzyness they just run/render very slowly

jamesp141 said:
Sorry, the just seem to run really slowly, they look good, no fuzzyness they just run/render very slowley
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This video claims otherwise

Beach Buggy Blitz and Riptide - both set to max graphics - run very well here. Don't have the Tegra3 special effects but look otherwise even better to me than on the Nex7.

BoneXDA said:
This video claims otherwise
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Dont get me wrong im not trolling, a lot of games run really well but I have come across a few that dont and it seems to be the more basic graphics games that dont.
Try running: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEwMiwiYWlyLmNsZWFydmlzaW9uMTJwbHVzIl0.
and you will see what I mean

jamesp141 said:
Dont get me wrong im not trolling, a lot of games run really well but I have come across a few that dont and it seems to be the more basic graphics games that dont.
Try running: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEwMiwiYWlyLmNsZWFydmlzaW9uMTJwbHVzIl0.
and you will see what I mean
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the force gpu acceleration option in the developer settings seems to make them run a little better

jamesp141 said:
Dont get me wrong im not trolling, a lot of games run really well but I have come across a few that dont and it seems to be the more basic graphics games that dont.
Try running: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEwMiwiYWlyLmNsZWFydmlzaW9uMTJwbHVzIl0.
and you will see what I mean
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Just tried it, must be a bug because the videos are normal speed, as is the game, but the menus animate in slow mo.

alias_neo said:
Just tried it, must be a bug because the videos are normal speed, as is the game, but the menus animate in slow mo.
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Yeah thats what I get, im guessing we just need to wait for app devs to catch up.

the the force gpu acceleration option has vastly improved some games so this might be a work around if anyone else has any issues :laugh:

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This video claims otherwise
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You may realise no special effects are enabled
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I would worry about running games at 2560x1600 on a PC, the fact that we're doing it on a tablet is crazy.

jamesp141 said:
the force gpu acceleration option in the developer settings seems to make them run a little better
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Where is the developer settings located?

lse4 said:
Where is the developer settings located?
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It`s hidden by default and made visible by tapping on Build number in About Tablet in settings 7 or 8 times

brownsea2989 said:
It`s hidden by default and made visible by tapping on Build number in About Tablet in settings 7 or 8 times
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Thanks

edwinpang said:
You may realise no special effects are enabled
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I turned on Max settings in dead trigger after. Still smooth
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italia0101 said:
I turned on Max settings in dead trigger after. Still smooth
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Dead trigger isnt really that cutiing edge imo
But still u got a pt
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Related

Bad graphic performance

Hi guys,
like many of you. i just received nexus 10 yesterday after some basic browsing, everything went fine.
now i want to try google earth to see how screen will perform. it was so laggy to the unusable.
then i tried some tablet made game (http://machinarium.net/), is also very slow.
please see youtube video 1 & video 2.
so is my unit defected? or this normal can anyone confirm please.
thank you in advance
Games running very badly
Overall Responsiveness?
On the first link, some people there are also experiencing some FPS issues, but a possible fix for that seems to be to Force GPU Acceleration. The second link has a reviewer mentioning dropped frames a lot, which might mean it could be a common experience. Forcing GPU Acceleration though might help.
i cannot find where the developer setting on my nex10 can you please tell me where?
pao_revolt said:
i cannot find where the developer setting on my nex10 can you please tell me where?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996510
espionage724 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996510
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thanks mate,
will give it a try.
Force gpu didn't seem to affect Machinarium on mine
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Runs slow for me too. Its not just you. I have a feeling...and I hope I'm wrong. The resolution this thing outputs cannot be handled by the GPU in graphic intensive games...
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Instead of knee jerking why don't you send an email to the developers to report the issue and find out when they're going to optimize their apps for Nexus 10.
If demanding games like NFS MW, Dead Trigger, MC 3, etc. run smoothly I don't how they can't optimize that child's game.

Change build.prop to nexus 7

Can we change the build.prop to look like a nexus 7 so tegra games can be downloaded?
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EYEramid said:
Can we change the build.prop to look like a nexus 7 so tegra games can be downloaded?
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Maybe, but they will not run ... because they run on Tegra, Nexus 10 is not Tegra, or if they do run they will run like crap ...
I figured they wouldn't run good, but I gotta try
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EYEramid said:
I figured they wouldn't run good, but I gotta try
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Just use google , find an apk , sideload it, see if it runs ...
Better than screwing with your build.prop ...
Watcher64 said:
Maybe, but they will not run ... because they run on Tegra, Nexus 10 is not Tegra, or if they do run they will run like crap ...
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From what I've heard, Tegra-only effects are bs. In other words, it'll run fine on any hardware that is capable of pushing the extra load (and a Mali-T604 should have no problem with that seeing as it seems to be better then Tegra 3 by a significant bit).
In any case, if someone could get a hold of Fruit Ninja THD Free, that would be a fine test to see if Tegra games can even be played.
espionage724 said:
From what I've heard, Tegra-only effects are bs. In other words, it'll run fine on any hardware that is capable of pushing the extra load (and a Mali-T604 should have no problem with that seeing as it seems to be better then Tegra 3 by a significant bit).
In any case, if someone could get a hold of Fruit Ninja THD Free, that would be a fine test to see if Tegra games can even be played.
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Fruit Ninja THD = Force Close
Riptide GP THD = Force Close
ShadowGUN THD = Force Close
Watcher64 said:
Fruit Ninja THD = Force Close
Riptide GP THD = Force Close
ShadowGUN THD = Force Close
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Just to be sure, but these are also fully updated, straight from the market and nowhere else versions of the games, on Stock ROM?
espionage724 said:
Just to be sure, but these are also fully updated, straight from the market and nowhere else versions of the games, on Stock ROM?
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Pulled them off my nexus 7 , they were installed from the market ...
not my first rodeo ...
They probably will not work since they use Tegra specific API for rendering... the best you could do is use Chainfire3D, but I don't know if or how well that'll work with Android 4.2
craigacgomez said:
They probably will not work since they use Tegra specific API for rendering... the best you could do is use Chainfire3D, but I don't know if or how well that'll work with Android 4.2
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Maybe they will listen to you ....
I thought about trying chainfire3d, but its hasn't been updated in a year
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Unfortunately, Chainfire 3D is a dead project, there is no other way to try tegra games .
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Watcher64 said:
Maybe they will listen to you ....
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There's pages of people using Tegra Effects on non-tegra devices for DEAD TRIGGER, so if anything, it's possible maybe for a few games.
There are plenty of people in the Themes & Apps forum, mentioning that they've got various games working in the N10 gaming thread, so some of them do work, it's just getting hold of the ones you own legitimately that's the difficult part.
I tried modding my build.prop but my market died and failed to connect to the server until I restored it. A reboot at that stage would likely cause you to bootloop so I didn't try rebooting.
espionage724 said:
There's pages of people using Tegra Effects on non-tegra devices for DEAD TRIGGER, so if anything, it's possible maybe for a few games.
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That was because it used standard GPU API for the advanced effects, but just turned it on for Tegra only devices... the game itself euns even on non-Tegra devices... any game with Tegra specific API calls will not work... some may start up, but may FC when they reach a point when such a call is made... but most apps written specifically for Tegra check the GPU and don't continue...

Most simple games and UI lag while heavy games work fine

Hello I have Novathor U8500 device Xperia U with dual core processor and Mali 400 GPU.
Problem is as title says most simple games lag while heavy one are working great.
By doing some tests I found phone can't push more than 58 fps,no matter phone sometimes simply jumps to 90 then below 30 and I can't debug this.
I'm asking is there any way to fix this or cap fps to for ex. 55 fps.
Thanks.
XperianPro said:
Hello I have Novathor U8500 device Xperia U with dual core processor and Mali 400 GPU.
Problem is as title says most simple games lag while heavy one are working great.
By doing some tests I found phone can't push more than 58 fps,no matter phone sometimes simply jumps to 90 then below 30 and I can't debug this.
I'm asking is there any way to fix this or cap fps to for ex. 55 fps.
Thanks.
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i think u can enable v-snyc somewhere.. i just dont remember how to do it..
kopter36 said:
i think u can enable v-snyc somewhere.. i just dont remember how to do it..
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Its enabled but graphic card is not stable and I can't stabilize it.
Try forcing GPU rendering?
Use pimp my rom and disable vsync
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ajeteja said:
Use pimp my rom and disable vsync.
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Its not so simple also it doesn't work.
Enabling GPU Rendering also not helping.
This is my last time buying Mali phone
looks like maybe ics might help...
http://communities-origin.sonyericsson.com/thread/64517
n3wt said:
looks like maybe ics might help...
http://communities-origin.sonyericsson.com/thread/64517
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Its not that problem yes they fixed lagging in some games but not in entire system,I am using CM9 right now but problem still occur,I can't scroll home screen without lag even simple scrolling like in Root Explorer lags.
I'm not sure what to do beside buy new device.
have you tried stock ICS?
n3wt said:
have you tried stock ICS?
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Yes I did all a viable versions but none is smooth.
XperianPro said:
Yes I did all a viable versions but none is smooth.
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Hmm strange.. Im not an XP user but i have XSOLA.. As i know they share very2 same hardware n spec xcept for the illumination and floating touch.. I've tried several rom like FXP 207,eXperience v2.1,MiUI and more but i dont have that kind of lag.. Usually right after i flashed a new rom i will debloated as much as i can then reboot into CWM and wipe cache and dalvik.. I admit some simple 2D games got a lag but none in UI.. Maybe your CPU governor?
CPU throttling due to temperatures?
CPU Bottleneck?
you cant just jump to the conclusion that mali devices are bad lol..
spazzy1912 said:
CPU throttling due to temperatures?
CPU Bottleneck?
you cant just jump to the conclusion that mali devices are bad lol..
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You sure it happens all the time,even when its 30 degrees.
XperianPro said:
You sure it happens all the time,even when its 30 degrees.
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hmm, very strange.
anyone else with your device having similar issues?
any other mali devices with these issues?
spazzy1912 said:
hmm, very strange.
anyone else with your device having similar issues?
any other mali devices with these issues?
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Yes it is strange,even my old Xperia X8 is somewhat "smooth" I mean simple actions like scrolling are smooth while on Xperia U are not. :silly:
XperianPro said:
Yes it is strange,even my old Xperia X8 is somewhat "smooth" I mean simple actions like scrolling are smooth while on Xperia U are not. :silly:
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might be some software optimisation issues? :S
spazzy1912 said:
might be some software optimisation issues? :S
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I thought that too.
But why company would launch phone that lags?
XperianPro said:
I thought that too.
But why company would launch phone that lags?
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hmm, so you have tried factory resetting?
is it still under warranty? try sending it back :S
spazzy1912 said:
hmm, so you have tried factory resetting?
is it still under warranty? try sending it back :S
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I'm using CM9 and my friend U has got same problem.

Playing Mario Party 3?

So I got a Nexus 7, and it's pretty cool.
I downgraded to 4.1.2 so I could use the Wii classic controller.
ANYWAYS. I downloaded the three top N64 emulator from the google store, N64oid, Mupen+ and something else...
Anyways, trying to play Mario Party 1, 2, or 3 and it runs at full speed. The game runs okay during the setup, but once you get into play, the sprites disappear and the spots on the board are all moved around and off the path of the actual map.
It's not a frame rate issue, it's graphical glitches.
I'm just wondering if there is any way of fixing it? Is there a setting I can change, or a different type of rom or emulator I need?
Any help would be great.
If you're wondering, yes, I do own a physical copy of Mario Party 1, 2, and 3. Going on a trip soon and would love to play it along the way.
Thanks guys!
Make sure opengl hardware rendering is enabled.
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BlackFire27 said:
Make sure opengl hardware rendering is enabled.
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Is that a setting on the emulator itself? And to which emulator may you be referring? Thank you.
I tried playing mario party 2 and everything was just flickering, using N64oid.
Bump? Anybody else having this issue and or resolved it? It's a pretty popular n64 game, I'm actually kinda surprised it hasn't been discussed.
BlackFire did as much as he could to help, but we couldn't solve it.
Make sure opengl hardware rendering is enabled.
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Make sure opengl hardware rendering is enabled.
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How do I do that?
retrogamer24 said:
How do I do that?
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It's in developer settings.
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scream4cheese said:
It's in developer settings.
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Okay, I see Enable Open GL traces currently set to none, but with options for
Logcat
Systrace (Graphics)
Call stack on glGetError
Which would I choose?
Thanks!
The n64 emulators are not polished yet on any platform including PC and wii and of course Android I doubt you will play a game without some kind of graphical tears or glitches especially games that originally needed the expansion pack and whatever settings you try you will have some glitches
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1eyedmonster said:
The n64 emulators are not polished yet on any platform including PC and wii and of course Android I doubt you will play a game without some kind of graphical tears or glitches especially games that originally needed the expansion pack and whatever settings you try you will have some glitches
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I've been told by people around here they've had it running perfectly on their Nexus. Just haven't been able to communicate with them enough to figure out how they do it.
Could somebody please be kind enough to explain to me exactly how to enable opengl hardware acceleration? Thanks!
Also interested in this.

For All The People Who Faces Lag in Games or Generally using the device!

Today I found something interesting happened to my phone it was running buttery smooth like it should be (821), and most of all the game i play everyday wasnt lagging at all, PUBG
Solution: DO NOT USE SMART CLEANING app or any other kind of it, your phone will start running smooth in next 3 4 days or maybe less.
Try this and share me your experiences.
Comment to let me know you're trying this.
Thanks. I'll give it a try and see if it makes a difference, because the amount of lag I experience while playing Cytus II is unbearably bad and makes the game nearly unplayable.
So dont use anything at all and itll work smooth? ok ill try that
Hi
Are you referring to the Smart Doctor build in app?
Did you disable or uninstall it?
It's been 3 days and I've reached a verdict. Doing as the OP said actually made games run better. By that, I mean I disabled Smart Cleaning via LG Package Disabler and deleted Google Files Go.
I'm not kidding about this helping. Cytus II is playable now at full 1440p 60fps, with very few lagspikes. Other games I've played, like Alto's Odyssey, run somewhat better as well.
Go try it out yourself, it may help a lot!
Kaioh_shin said:
Hi
Are you referring to the Smart Doctor build in app?
Did you disable or uninstall it?
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The name is "Smart Cleaning" app. No disable/uninstall, I'm just not using it that's it. You can disable/uninstall it if you want.
fegitoli said:
It's been 3 days and I've reached a verdict. Doing as the OP said actually made games run better. By that, I mean I disabled Smart Cleaning via LG Package Disabler and deleted Google Files Go.
I'm not kidding about this helping. Cytus II is playable now at full 2160p 60fps, with very few lagspikes. Other games I've played, like Alto's Odyssey, run somewhat better as well.
Go try it out yourself, it may help a lot!
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Good to hear that it helped you, Share as far as possible to people having problems w/ LG G6
fegitoli said:
It's been 3 days and I've reached a verdict. Doing as the OP said actually made games run better. By that, I mean I disabled Smart Cleaning via LG Package Disabler and deleted Google Files Go.
I'm not kidding about this helping. Cytus II is playable now at full 2160p 60fps, with very few lagspikes. Other games I've played, like Alto's Odyssey, run somewhat better as well.
Go try it out yourself, it may help a lot!
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After a factory reset a couple days ago the antutu graphics benchmark got noticeably choppier, especially the "marooned" scene which was previously completely fluid. That was a disappointment since that was one of the reasons for going through that process! I've now removed Google files go and I will see if that makes a difference, I hope it does. If so, thank you in advance.
Btw I think you meant "1440p" (QHD) not "2160p", that's 4k! ?
MDW 100 said:
After a factory reset a couple days ago the antutu graphics benchmark got noticeably choppier, especially the "marooned" scene which was previously completely fluid. That was a disappointment since that was one of the reasons for going through that process! I've now removed Google files go and I will see if that makes a difference, I hope it does. If so, thank you in advance.
Btw I think you meant "1440p" (QHD) not "2160p", that's 4k! ?
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Yeah, that's right. Thanks for pointing that out!
This is serious guys, I deleted Smart Cleaning by ADB and my gaming experience increase magically, Shadowgun Legends can run quite good with Ultra high 60fps setting, it couldn't do that before. Unbelievable
PS: Tested only with latest Android 7.0
I have zero lag and i use smart doctor every other day.
Matt.
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Well, two weeks from when i see this thread and i stop using SmartDoctor / SmartCleaning app, just to say, this guy is right, using SmartDoctor / SmartCleaning app will (somehow, and i dont know how and why) make you phone laggy and in my tests if i open it like between 2 or 3 days and make a clean all UI and the app frezzes and i need to wait almost 1 minute to phone get out of the app and all be OK again.
So, my test really gives reason to this guy and i will delete the app from the phone, and i recomend all people with rooted G6 to do the same and use CCleaner instead to clean cache from apps and so on...
to the guy who discover the guilty of the lag: i cant pay you a beer, but you will be my hero forever.
Not working for me unfortunately... Still quite a bit of lag playing heavier games like csr2, Rr3 (practically unplayable), hungry shark world ?
I've had the phone since September last year and I don't think I've used it for more than 10 times. It lags anyway. Lowering the resolution does wonders, but it has some bugs that I don't like so I've switched back to lag.
MDW 100 said:
Not working for me unfortunately... Still quite a bit of lag playing heavier games like csr2, Rr3 (practically unplayable), hungry shark world ?
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What phone?
DaGameChanger said:
What phone?
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LG G6 ?
akashx101 said:
Today I found something interesting happened to my phone it was running buttery smooth like it should be (821), and most of all the game i play everyday wasnt lagging at all, PUBG
Solution: DO NOT USE SMART CLEANING app or any other kind of it, your phone will start running smooth in next 3 4 days or maybe less.
Try this and share me your experiences.
Comment to let me know you're trying this.
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If you are rooted, I highly recommend installing the new Adreno 530 driver, there is a decent improvement in games and definitely in Antutu...
does this stil work as of now?
This reads like bull****. What is "smart cleaning"? Is it supposed to be an app? The instructions are super unclear.
Smart Doctor cannot be disabled either. You can just disable it running in the background.
WedErdat said:
This reads like bull****. What is "smart cleaning"? Is it supposed to be an app? The instructions are super unclear.
Smart Doctor cannot be disabled either. You can just disable it running in the background.
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You can disable it with abd

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