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Figured I would finally start a thread.
I've had my EVO for awhile now, 6-9 months. I love it. Initially when I bought it, I had every intention of rooting it, but after having used the native fw I'm not even sure it's necessary. What am I missing that rooting my EVO has to offer?
rrasco said:
Figured I would finally start a thread.
I've had my EVO for awhile now, 6-9 months. I love it. Initially when I bought it, I had every intention of rooting it, but after having used the native fw I'm not even sure it's necessary. What am I missing that rooting my EVO has to offer?
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Wen you root your phone you can flash custom roms free wifi theder you can overclock the CPU also you Dan download titanium backup and backup all your apps and app data. I would recommended rooting
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Root. It's not a question, its a must. The benefits are endless
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there is nothing wrong with stock, in fact you won't need to deal with a lot of the bugs and hiccups of custom ROMS.
However, there are many benefits of rooting. There is tethering (or pay for it), over/under clocking, battery saving features, AOSP ROMS (which in my mind make it worth while), and different sense versions to try. Rooting also helps optimize your phone. the amount you will learn is priceless. Everytime you flash a new ROM it is almost like getting a brand new phone.
If you don't like be rooted, you can easily unroot.
I rooted my Evo soon after getting it but I remained stock quite a while.
There are plenty of reasons to root even if you want to remain totally stock.
For me the reasons were:
- Occasional use of tethering. Never needed it enough to pay for it and I never used that much data.
- to back up my apps and all data.
- to remove apps that I did not want to prevent them from running. (Amazon MP3, Sprint Navigation, etc).
- to be able to integrate updates (to Maps, Gmail, Facebook) into the ROM using Titanium Backup. Saved space in the Data partition for other apps.
- Modify the hosts file to block some ads.
- etc...
When I decided to flash something I started with the kernel (to try SBC and then just to use HAVS).
The 'brick' warnings always made me edgy about doing it. Any recommended ROMs worth giving a shot? Would be nice to get a better swype-like keyboard, can't really think of anything else I 'need'.
I wouldn't use tethering either, I barely use my laptop as is and if I did I would get a verizon 4g LTE mifi since Sprint's 4g is a joke.
rrasco said:
The 'brick' warnings always made me edgy about doing it. Any recommended ROMs worth giving a shot? Would be nice to get a better swype-like keyboard, can't really think of anything else I 'need'.
I wouldn't use tethering either, I barely use my laptop as is and if I did I would get a verizon 4g LTE mifi since Sprint's 4g is a joke.
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U can still get a better keyboard without rooting. And the bricking part if anything goes wrong people here will gladly help you if you ask. Also if your not that type person who mess around with your phone just leave it be. You can always bring your phone back to factory stock if you need it too.
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I always thought bricked was unfix-able. Good to know. I'm a developer, so completely open to modding my phone, so long as there is added benefit.
Is there an easy way to move your current apps over to the new fw, or is that one of the caveats to having stock fw? SD data is untouched, I'm assuming?
I did it to get rid of Nova. That app gave me nightmaress.
Yes you can alwayz do a nondroid backup and if you brick you phone you can bring it back to your last backup.. right now I'm using team noctunals xplod e4g rom based of Sony experia working very well
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Truballa4real7 said:
Yes you can alwayz do a nondroid backup and if you brick you phone you can bring it back to your last backup.. right now I'm using team noctunals xplod e4g rom based of Sony experia working very well
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You will not be able to restore a nandroid if you brick your phone. When the phone is truly bricked you can not get into the bootloader or recovery. The good news is it is very difficult to brick your Evo unless you really screw up. Just about the only way is to pull the battery while flashing the radio. Flashing a ROM is pretty safe. Even if you screw it up you can always get into the bootloader or recovery and reflash.
I suggest you don't, and if you do, make sure it's not from cyanogenmod.
Good Luck!!
Hey guys i just got my Nexus 7 and i was wondering if it is worth rooting it. Is there a good amount of development and mods and kerms and nice ROMS? Thanks a lot...
Since people might say its a stupid question and i should root my main point is about the ROMs... Can youll suggest me the best ROMs for N7?
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Hey guys i just got my Nexus 7 and i was wondering if it is worth rooting it. Is there a good amount of development and mods and kerms and nice ROMS? Thanks a lot...
Since people might say its a stupid question and i should root my main point is about the ROMs... Can youll suggest me the best ROMs for N7?
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Oh yes of course !!!
If you dont want to root, youd be better off buying iCrap! Just joking.....
Rooting is like opening Pandoras box!!!
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Oh yes of course !!!
If you dont want to root, youd be better off buying iCrap! Just joking.....
Rooting is like opening Pandoras box!!!
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Ok.. Thanks a lot... Can you guide me out through the whole process? Kind of doing it now.. I have the toolkit for N7... But it says 2.0 and there is an update to 3.0 for donation verison.. Is 2.0 fine or should i get 3.0? And secondly where does this backup get stored?
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Ok.. Thanks a lot... Can you guide me out through the whole process? Kind of doing it now.. I have the toolkit for N7... But it says 2.0 and there is an update to 3.0 for donation verison.. Is 2.0 fine or should i get 3.0? And secondly where does this backup get stored?
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Version 2.0 is fine. I am still using it. Once you installed the toolkit on your pc, you should be good to go as the software is self explanatory, and it also explains everything right there and then. Jsut do numbers 1 to 7 ( I skip no. 2 though)
Only thing to note is you need to enable USB debugging on your Nexus 7, and sometimes you need to enable PTP instead of MTP. You can easily switch/change the setting after you connected your Nexus to the pc by opening the app drawer and clicking the necessary box.
Good luck
Not seen the need to root mine yet, all of our droid phones are rooted & running custom tons, so I do know the benefits of rooting, CWM, custom roms etc.
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Yes root it
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Do not... I repeat do not use a toolkit. Those are only helpful IF AND WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
Do it the manual way, the same way it is for all nexi.
Also there is no best ROM... that's for you to decide yourself no one can tell you ehat you'll think the best ROM will be.
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alferret said:
Not seen the need to root mine yet, all of our droid phones are rooted & running custom tons, so I do know the benefits of rooting, CWM, custom roms etc.
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I Totally agree......
My main issue with Android phones is battery life and I feel rooting is a must for phones but my battery life with the Nexus 7 has been very good..
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jshashwat93 said:
Hey guys i just got my Nexus 7 and i was wondering if it is worth rooting it. Is there a good amount of development and mods and kerms and nice ROMS? Thanks a lot...
Since people might say its a stupid question and i should root my main point is about the ROMs... Can youll suggest me the best ROMs for N7?
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I doubt there's a circumstance under which I'd say no. Even if you never use a custom rom/kernel (which, yes, there are some good ones out there) there's still adblock, titanium backup, betterbatterystats, etc.
I used glazed rom + motley kernel. paranoid android is also another common recommendation, due to being able to change the sizes of each app.
I say go for it, you got nothing to lose. You can get it back to an out-of-the-box state very easily with http://forums.androidcentral.com/ne...ide-factory-image-restore-your-nexus-7-a.html
Captpt said:
My main issue with Android phones is battery life and I feel rooting is a must for phones but my battery life with the Nexus 7 has been very good..
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Rooting doesn't improve battery life.
Salty Wagyu said:
I say go for it, you got nothing to lose. You can get it back to an out-of-the-box state very easily with http://forums.androidcentral.com/ne...ide-factory-image-restore-your-nexus-7-a.html
Rooting doesn't improve battery life.
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At least rooting by its self doesnt. Getting a custom ROM and Kernel and tuning the too does help improve battery life.
I want to root my Nexus 7, but then I cant use my Google wallet right?
And rooting voids warranty right?
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I say go for it, you got nothing to lose. You can get it back to an out-of-the-box state very easily with http://forums.androidcentral.com/ne...ide-factory-image-restore-your-nexus-7-a.html
Rooting doesn't improve battery life.
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Absolutely correct BUT finding the right ROM/Kernel does...
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AlleN7 said:
I want to root my Nexus 7, but then I cant use my Google wallet right?
And rooting voids warranty right?
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You can still use Google Wallet it will just say unsupported device it still works regardless. And rooting does not void warranty.
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Hey guys i just got my Nexus 7 and i was wondering if it is worth rooting it. Is there a good amount of development and mods and kerms and nice ROMS? Thanks a lot...
Since people might say its a stupid question and i should root my main point is about the ROMs... Can youll suggest me the best ROMs for N7?
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Of course It let you modify and customize anything you want, well give you the right to
Every single android device I had has been rooted the very first day.
With the nexus 7 I can't see the point to be frank. It is doing everything I want minus the ad blocking.
Any advantages of rooting? Please let me know. I feel like an apple fan boy
Is this even a question?
What kind of disadvantages is there to rooting unless your messing with things you shouldnt be.
An advantage could be that you could backup and restore all your apps and data, if you ever needed to.
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Is this even a question?
What kind of disadvantages is there to rooting unless your messing with things you shouldnt be.
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Spending one hour every single day just to try another rom. Losing the social life. You know, general disadvantages of being a flashoholic.
calyxim said:
Every single android device I had has been rooted the very first day.
With the nexus 7 I can't see the point to be frank. It is doing everything I want minus the ad blocking.
Any advantages of rooting? Please let me know. I feel like an apple fan boy
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My nexus 7 is the only Droid device I haven't rooted, no point IMO.
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Im like you, i ve had 11 different android devices over the years and each one was rooted within a few days, but for some reason It took me about 4 months to finally root mine, I know what you mean its damn near perfect out of the box. But the 4.2 update changed my mind and I was forced to root. And I'm glad I did, I've flashed 5 or 6 custom ROMs now for this and have settled on slimbean for a while, I can't see changing it until I get the urge to flash as this is perfect - and I can use all my rooted apps now, along with being able to make nandroids.
Just root, and try to find an awesome ROM to stick with for a bit... you won't loose your social life for more than an evening or so and you'll be much happier in the long run!
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Look at how many features aokp adds, I'd say that's a good enough reason.
What disadvantages do I have by rooting? Had my n4 since friday
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Have you unlocked the bootloader yet?
There are no disadvantages to root, think of it like having admin permission of your system.
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device, as a safety feature. On a nexus, since it's only one command to unlock, it's recommended to do that straight away if you even think you might start down the road to custom town in the future.
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Yup...as far as I'm concerned, everyone should ALWAYS root. A - it's part of what's truly awesome about Android, B - it will more than likely come in handy at some point and C - there really isn't any reason NOT to do it.
Just do it soon after getting the device (I had my N4 for about 30 min before I started the process...within an hr of getting it, the bootloader was unlocked, it was rooted, had a custom kernel and it was ROMd) since, as stated, a wipe is usually required. And, even still, some know how with titanium can even soften that blow.
Disadvantages? Potentially void your warranty, less secure device (malicious apps that ask for SU permission), rom flashing addiction, spending too much time on XDA.
The occasional app won't run rooted - TWC TV, for example.
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So what happens if I don't root right away? That's what makes me nervous
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So what happens if I don't root right away? That's what makes me nervous
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Well, nothing. It's not a requirement.
You won't be able to use apps that need SU permission, that's all.
Unlocking your bootloader is not the same as rooting, you should do that asap if you plan on ever mucking around with your device.
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Well, nothing. It's not a requirement.
You won't be able to use apps that need SU permission, that's all.
Unlocking your bootloader is not the same as rooting, you should do that asap if you plan on ever mucking around with your device.
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Why is required to unlock asap? I know about rooting its just the first time I've heard to unlock boot loader asap like does something get ruined if I hold off on unlocking the bootloader?
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ridearoundsolo said:
Why is required to unlock asap? I know about rooting its just the first time I've heard to unlock boot loader asap like does something get ruined if I hold off on unlocking the bootloader?
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It is not required to do it asap.
Some just recommend doing it quick because unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone. So you lose the data on there.
Story time:
Personally I always use the device for a while before I go near rooting and all the fun that comes with it, just to make sure I have a good product and stable device.
I had a Desire Z before, and had the motherboard replaced once because it had failed. When I got it back I tried it for maybe a day or two. I noticed it was a bit unstable and blamed it on the HTC software just being crap. So I rooted and flashed CM to it.
That turned out to be unstable as wel... Phone would just randomly reboot.
Unrooting and returning that Z to stock was a bit of a challenge. A guy on IRC helped me out tremendously and I'm still thankful for it, because together we succeeded.
And I could RMA once more...
So that's why I tend to wait a bit and confirm my device is solid before I go rooting.
stejoo said:
It is not required to do it asap.
Some just recommend doing it quick because unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone. So you lose the data on there.
Story time:
Personally I always use the device for a while before I go near rooting and all the fun that comes with it, just to make sure I have a good product and stable device.
I had a Desire Z before, and had the motherboard replaced once because it had failed. When I got it back I tried it for maybe a day or two. I noticed it was a bit unstable and blamed it on the HTC software just being crap. So I rooted and flashed CM to it.
That turned out to be unstable as wel... Phone would just randomly reboot.
Unrooting and returning that Z to stock was a bit of a challenge. A guy on IRC helped me out tremendously and I'm still thankful for it, because together we succeeded.
And I could RMA once more...
So that's why I tend to wait a bit and confirm my device is solid before I go rooting.
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I agree about testing the device to see if it can hold on its own before rooting, my last phone the HTC one s was a nightmare with rooting and flashing, but I know this is much easier because I own a nexus 7 which is rooted and running codefirex
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Hello I just receive my Nexus 4 and I Rooted 5 minutes later
Now I have a question If the Nexus 4 is Rooted it will continue receiving Android Os Updates directly from Google?
Thanks
Marioaguado said:
Hello I just receive my Nexus 4 and I Rooted 5 minutes later
Now I have a question If the Nexus 4 is Rooted it will continue receiving Android Os Updates directly from Google?
Thanks
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Yes as long as it is stock and the kernel is stock you can receive OTA (over the air) updates. You might/will probably lose root though when the update is installed but that is not a problem, just reflash it.
Yea...you will possibly void the warranty. You can usually flash back to stock if need be and, if you break your screen or something and just want to use insurance or something, just dip it in water for an hr or so...they'll never know what you did to it other than dip it in water.
And yes, you do open the door to malware, possibly. Gotta be careful about what you install and what you grant permissions to.
The reason I say to do it soon, as was said, unlocking, (sometimes) rooting and romming will usually wipe your device. If you do all this as soon as you get the device, it doesn't matter. If you use the phone for however long, you'll lose all that data. That's the logic behind it.
I've had the phone for little over a month now and I just rooted it yesterday. I had no intention of rooting, but I got myself a Moga controller and to get the most out of that controller, it requires root.
Of course, by that time I already had all my apps & such configured exactly as I like them, so it was a bummer to have to re-download and reconfigure everything. ESPECIALLY the internal "sdcard"s contents. I was used to being able to restore and wipe without losing my personal files because all my prior phones had sdcard slots. It completely slipped my mind that the Nexus 4 "sdcard" is pretty much just its internal memory so I lost a handful of pics and other things. For these reasons, I would recommend that even if you thitnk you MIGHT want to root in the future, you might as well do it now and save yourself the time of further redownloading and reconfiguring everything a month from now.
This was a question I had so the responses have been interesting. I've rooted my previous non-Nexus devices (Mytouch 4G, HTC Sensation 4G) mostly so I could get an aosp like ROM. I had a Nexus One but never rooted it. Still trying to decide if I'm going to root my Nexus 4 because I haven't really experienced a ROM that comes without minor issues (Picasa, GPS/Navigation, etc.) The custom ROMs do have a lot of cool features though.
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The features and theming is tempting but I'm a bit worried if there's a performance drop, are there Roms that completely surpass stock speed and without bugs?
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phon00b said:
I've had the phone for little over a month now and I just rooted it yesterday. I had no intention of rooting, but I got myself a Moga controller and to get the most out of that controller, it requires root.
Of course, by that time I already had all my apps & such configured exactly as I like them, so it was a bummer to have to re-download and reconfigure everything. ESPECIALLY the internal "sdcard"s contents. I was used to being able to restore and wipe without losing my personal files because all my prior phones had sdcard slots. It completely slipped my mind that the Nexus 4 "sdcard" is pretty much just its internal memory so I lost a handful of pics and other things. For these reasons, I would recommend that even if you thitnk you MIGHT want to root in the future, you might as well do it now and save yourself the time of further redownloading and reconfiguring everything a month from now.
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Always backup your apps and data with Titanium Backup or with adb before unlocking your bootloader =/
ridearoundsolo said:
The features and theming is tempting but I'm a bit worried if there's a performance drop, are there Roms that completely surpass stock speed and without bugs?
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If you're only worried about performance, CyanogenMod is as stable if not better than stock roms. If you're looking for optimization, I would suggest ParanoidAndroid. Most roms out there are pretty stable, except for a few hiccups, and I think the best advice is that you should try it personally and have a feel at it. :good:
I would say do it if you are interested constantly flashing ROMs. The only reason I've flashed my S2 because of the T-Mobile bloat. But then I messed more until I bricked.
The N4 is very clean and good as it is and I keep it that way.
I rooted my optimus s but all the roms for it sucksuck
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So I ended up rooting and tried pa but am liking xylon stable a lot and about to give rasbean a try
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I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
Yea it's been a while homie... The creator of it is working on trying to achieve it in our device as well
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I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
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Oh man let's hope for the best. This is all kind of new to me having these issues. Even my One X was a pain in the ass, but not THIS bad with unlocking.
Will safe strap include being able to flash a kernel? That's honestly the #1 reason for an unlocked bootloader for me. I love playing around with cpu and gpu parameters trying to achieve best battery to performance. Plus faux123 has his kernel and coming from it with a nexus 4 I wish I had it on this device.
Safe strap will not allow kernel flashing. Only ROMs. It high-jacks boot up and redirects the device to boot from a secondary partition you create on the internal memory. You will lose space on internal memory to use safestrap. Although the Verizon folks (me included) have been able to overwrite the factory partition to avoid space lose. If you want to flash kernels you need to drop the 700 dollars on development edition of the phone. I can't believe how dead the development thread is for this device I was just looking for some options for a friend of mine who just got his AT&T N3.
I got more jelly beans than jelly belly, on my S3, S4, and both my Notes
Guess I should have stuck with nexus. Oh well ill trade the ability to flash kernels and roms for a removable battery and an sd card and large screen.
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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Jayster0966 said:
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I would be shocked, but thanks. I hope your right because this sucks. I want to run Jedi bad.
tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I have a locked S4 and have been waiting since I got it the wait will be long.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Agreed +1
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Will be a nice xmas gift to have an unlocked bootloader. 3 month mark should be a good gauge as to whether it will ever happen
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
9wire said:
They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
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good news...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/105617-safestrap-for-the-n3-vzw-and-att-testing-started/?p=1567258