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I want to know am I the only one that does not feel the need to root this phone. I mean I come from a g1 day one buyer mytouch 3g the g2 a nexus one, and I lived for installing roms just like everybody else I was flashing everyday lol. But on this I just don't want to I mean it's sorta perfect. I mean the no notification thing I hate. The samsung on back I hate. And a camara in the front that I can only use to look at my self what the hell is the point. how many pictures of my self can I really take? But the phone, the hardware gingerbread it perfect. What do u guys think?
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I certainly don't feel compelled to flash any custom roms or kernels on mine; it's damn close to perfect. There's a few CM or DocRambone extras I sort of miss, but it's nice to be off the ROM-A-Day or ROM-A-Week treadmill I'd gotten on with my Nexus One and Galaxy S phones.
Root, though, that's a much different story. There are still things you need Root for that I don't want to give up:
Screen captures.
Titanium Backup.
adb wireless widget
Not to mention just the feeling that it's my phone, and I should have full access to the file system if I want it.
You shouldn't feel pressured to root, though. If the phone does all you want and you're not missing any of the features root gives you, don't bother. No one will look down on you for it...
I can't live without Titanium Backup and other various root-required apps, so I definitely have to root. Plus, it's not like it's a complicated process.
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I don't feel like rooting mine either, at least for the moment. I feel mine is pretty perfect too. Considering I came from a G1 with Froyo and constantly lagging and taking 30 seconds to load the home screen, I am completely happy with my NS.
Rooting is mainly for tweakers who like to customize beyond the norm. I can't think of anything substantial it would provide me personally to do so. A little bit faster? Meh. Better battery life? Meh. HD video? Meh.
Yes its a great phone, but to purchase this phone and not tweak on it, that I will never understand...
Couldn't imagine running a non-rooted stock N1.... oh how far we've come!
jacksonj51 said:
Yes its a great phone, but to purchase this phone and not tweak on it, that I will never understand...
Couldn't imagine running a non-rooted stock N1.... oh how far we've come!
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I'm sure most will end up rooting it, but as it is right now some people don't feel the need since it's still quite early in life.
Honestly the only reason I rooted was to get rid of ads. Some of the other root only apps like Titanium (get rid of google earth, email (I only use gmail), etc) was nice but not needed.
I haven't decided yet if I am going to do ROMs although I probably will eventually do CM.
I totally felt the same way, until I found out my received MMS pics were compressed and thumbnail quality/resolution. I had to root and replace the Mms.apk, now it works fine.
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I totally felt the same way, until I found out my received MMS pics were compressed and thumbnail quality/resolution. I had to root and replace the Mms.apk, now it works fine.
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Ahh, that's interesting. I don't use MMS, but I've read numerous threads where people complain of the compression. I suggested they try Handcent or other 3rd party app to see if problem addressed, but most seemed to think it was a T-Mobile server setting.
What apk did you use to replace it with?
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I totally felt the same way, until I found out my received MMS pics were compressed and thumbnail quality/resolution. I had to root and replace the Mms.apk, now it works fine.
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Could you point me to where I can get that Mms.apk? I'm having the same problem. Thanks
I hadn't planned on rooting as quickly as I ended up doing....but waking up one morning to see that my stock device was bootlooping for fun caused me to rethink that one.
I still don't plan on flashing another rom, at least not yet. This is the first device that I've been happy with from the get go, and I'd like to keep that feeling for as long as I possibly can.
As fun and beneficial as rooting is, it'd be nice to get a "Google phone" with clean Android iterations already packed with all the features that rooting brings.
If developers can create better custom ROMs, why can't Google make these implementations themselves? It's a little baffling to me.
I think everything is ok on this device but I will still root because I love the freedom!
I also haven't thought about rooting, I used to flash new roms like 5 times a day on my faithful g1.
The only thing that bothers me is the compressed photos I get in the messaging app. Hopefully they will fix that soon.
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I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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Technically with the locked bootloader everybody is running a Motorola released version. This new version of gb that was released was by an ota to a few phones. While not a full fledged update to gb it is very stable and reliable. I have been on it and have zero problems. All of my apps appeared. And no bootloops. The directions for everything that needs to be done are very well done and there is almost a zero percent chance of truly bricking your phone. And with sbf'ing and everything I had to do to get to gb it only took me about fifteen total minutes to get there. Enjoy your stable Froyo and popcorn and I will enjoy my stable Gingerbread.
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I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.
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wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.
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lol that's funny.
He must have got this site confused with facebook.
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Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes
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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes
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+1. With the locked bootloader and no way for people to try to flash the radio or kernel. It has made this phone nearly impossible to hard brick. I only know of one. Every other person has worked through there problems by the helpful people and guides on this and other forums. You stick around here long enough and you will be eating gingerbread instead of popcorn.
Edit: I should say no way to flash a custom kernel or custom radio.
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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.
I'm not trying to go against the tone of the thread here by saying this, but I have Gingerbread and am really not looking back. Stock Froyo was boring, everyone will agree with that. From there you had either ApeX or rubiX (or later Liberty). I ran all three actually and settled between Apex and rubiX Focused. Apex is/was good for battery life and overall stability. rubiX Focused is/was good for speed and stability, battery life was a bit less than Apex. But to me Gingerbread is the best of both worlds. 30-40 hour battery life PLUS the much improved (for most) Quadrant scores and overall speed and snappiness is like rubiX + ApeX. (video here)
I guess all I'm trying to say is that *when done properly*, if you flash from your favorite ROM to Gingerbread it's completely doable without any hitches or hangups. The thing to remember here is this: you're going from your favorite build/ROM/setup to something completely foreign. When I first flashed 2.3 (the most recent OTA, deodexed & rooted) there were some things I complained about. Then, with time and just playing around with it, I figured them out. I think most people are "having issues" with it because it's really that much of a change. It's not the jump from 2.2 to 2.2.1. It's a whole new setup, interface and all. I think it's the process that scares people, and that's understandable, but just remember.. it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to brick your phone. With SBF, you'd almost have to be trying to mess things ups. Find a decent guide and give it a shot. You can always flash back to your current setup.
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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.
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Just a heads up, be careful with Wireless Tether on 2.3.. or even 2.2 if you're going over 5GB. People are saying that's being watched now.
I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I am definitely getting better battery life. The other day I calibrated my battery and had to wait for 1 day 13 hours and change before the thing finally died. Also if the drivers aren't working for you try this. http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...-solution-your-windows-rsd-lite-problems.html
just put it on a cd and go. It is linux. I haven't used it since my windows 7 64 bit system did the job for me just fine, but I have heard a really good response with this. Also, if you have any questions about it the guy is really good at answering them.
Since you are on stock....you are really in the perfect position to upgrade to gb the easiest. Root, Droid 2 Bootstrap, wipe, run the 3 files from tbh, wipe, and reboot. Off you go.
Just to note TBH has put out a rooted version of the GB leak....
I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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1. No it will redownload after you flash
2. Yes. No idea why or how to fix
3. Over-the-air. It is an update sent directly to your phone from Verizon.
4. No. But SBF'ing is not difficult at all, it's just the idea that scares people and that people make stupid mistakes
5. I think two, or four maybe. But that is completely unrelated. Look it up
Thx....damn quick response.
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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all links work here
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...3-3-4-5-588-install-patch-root.html#post68035
No joy.
Got an abort on the first file. (Good place to get one I guess). These files were downloaded to the wifey's laptop and copied over.
One distinction ...instructions here included "wipe", but the instructions from the modderX site did not mention wipe.
Furthermore there are 2 wipes .... I tried wiping the cache...no joy. The other wipe looked too scary..sumpin about reset factory blah blah blah.....
Its good to be on vacation.
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What disadvantages do I have by rooting? Had my n4 since friday
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Have you unlocked the bootloader yet?
There are no disadvantages to root, think of it like having admin permission of your system.
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device, as a safety feature. On a nexus, since it's only one command to unlock, it's recommended to do that straight away if you even think you might start down the road to custom town in the future.
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Yup...as far as I'm concerned, everyone should ALWAYS root. A - it's part of what's truly awesome about Android, B - it will more than likely come in handy at some point and C - there really isn't any reason NOT to do it.
Just do it soon after getting the device (I had my N4 for about 30 min before I started the process...within an hr of getting it, the bootloader was unlocked, it was rooted, had a custom kernel and it was ROMd) since, as stated, a wipe is usually required. And, even still, some know how with titanium can even soften that blow.
Disadvantages? Potentially void your warranty, less secure device (malicious apps that ask for SU permission), rom flashing addiction, spending too much time on XDA.
The occasional app won't run rooted - TWC TV, for example.
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So what happens if I don't root right away? That's what makes me nervous
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So what happens if I don't root right away? That's what makes me nervous
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Well, nothing. It's not a requirement.
You won't be able to use apps that need SU permission, that's all.
Unlocking your bootloader is not the same as rooting, you should do that asap if you plan on ever mucking around with your device.
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Well, nothing. It's not a requirement.
You won't be able to use apps that need SU permission, that's all.
Unlocking your bootloader is not the same as rooting, you should do that asap if you plan on ever mucking around with your device.
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Why is required to unlock asap? I know about rooting its just the first time I've heard to unlock boot loader asap like does something get ruined if I hold off on unlocking the bootloader?
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Why is required to unlock asap? I know about rooting its just the first time I've heard to unlock boot loader asap like does something get ruined if I hold off on unlocking the bootloader?
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It is not required to do it asap.
Some just recommend doing it quick because unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone. So you lose the data on there.
Story time:
Personally I always use the device for a while before I go near rooting and all the fun that comes with it, just to make sure I have a good product and stable device.
I had a Desire Z before, and had the motherboard replaced once because it had failed. When I got it back I tried it for maybe a day or two. I noticed it was a bit unstable and blamed it on the HTC software just being crap. So I rooted and flashed CM to it.
That turned out to be unstable as wel... Phone would just randomly reboot.
Unrooting and returning that Z to stock was a bit of a challenge. A guy on IRC helped me out tremendously and I'm still thankful for it, because together we succeeded.
And I could RMA once more...
So that's why I tend to wait a bit and confirm my device is solid before I go rooting.
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It is not required to do it asap.
Some just recommend doing it quick because unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone. So you lose the data on there.
Story time:
Personally I always use the device for a while before I go near rooting and all the fun that comes with it, just to make sure I have a good product and stable device.
I had a Desire Z before, and had the motherboard replaced once because it had failed. When I got it back I tried it for maybe a day or two. I noticed it was a bit unstable and blamed it on the HTC software just being crap. So I rooted and flashed CM to it.
That turned out to be unstable as wel... Phone would just randomly reboot.
Unrooting and returning that Z to stock was a bit of a challenge. A guy on IRC helped me out tremendously and I'm still thankful for it, because together we succeeded.
And I could RMA once more...
So that's why I tend to wait a bit and confirm my device is solid before I go rooting.
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I agree about testing the device to see if it can hold on its own before rooting, my last phone the HTC one s was a nightmare with rooting and flashing, but I know this is much easier because I own a nexus 7 which is rooted and running codefirex
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Hello I just receive my Nexus 4 and I Rooted 5 minutes later
Now I have a question If the Nexus 4 is Rooted it will continue receiving Android Os Updates directly from Google?
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Marioaguado said:
Hello I just receive my Nexus 4 and I Rooted 5 minutes later
Now I have a question If the Nexus 4 is Rooted it will continue receiving Android Os Updates directly from Google?
Thanks
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Yes as long as it is stock and the kernel is stock you can receive OTA (over the air) updates. You might/will probably lose root though when the update is installed but that is not a problem, just reflash it.
Yea...you will possibly void the warranty. You can usually flash back to stock if need be and, if you break your screen or something and just want to use insurance or something, just dip it in water for an hr or so...they'll never know what you did to it other than dip it in water.
And yes, you do open the door to malware, possibly. Gotta be careful about what you install and what you grant permissions to.
The reason I say to do it soon, as was said, unlocking, (sometimes) rooting and romming will usually wipe your device. If you do all this as soon as you get the device, it doesn't matter. If you use the phone for however long, you'll lose all that data. That's the logic behind it.
I've had the phone for little over a month now and I just rooted it yesterday. I had no intention of rooting, but I got myself a Moga controller and to get the most out of that controller, it requires root.
Of course, by that time I already had all my apps & such configured exactly as I like them, so it was a bummer to have to re-download and reconfigure everything. ESPECIALLY the internal "sdcard"s contents. I was used to being able to restore and wipe without losing my personal files because all my prior phones had sdcard slots. It completely slipped my mind that the Nexus 4 "sdcard" is pretty much just its internal memory so I lost a handful of pics and other things. For these reasons, I would recommend that even if you thitnk you MIGHT want to root in the future, you might as well do it now and save yourself the time of further redownloading and reconfiguring everything a month from now.
This was a question I had so the responses have been interesting. I've rooted my previous non-Nexus devices (Mytouch 4G, HTC Sensation 4G) mostly so I could get an aosp like ROM. I had a Nexus One but never rooted it. Still trying to decide if I'm going to root my Nexus 4 because I haven't really experienced a ROM that comes without minor issues (Picasa, GPS/Navigation, etc.) The custom ROMs do have a lot of cool features though.
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The features and theming is tempting but I'm a bit worried if there's a performance drop, are there Roms that completely surpass stock speed and without bugs?
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I've had the phone for little over a month now and I just rooted it yesterday. I had no intention of rooting, but I got myself a Moga controller and to get the most out of that controller, it requires root.
Of course, by that time I already had all my apps & such configured exactly as I like them, so it was a bummer to have to re-download and reconfigure everything. ESPECIALLY the internal "sdcard"s contents. I was used to being able to restore and wipe without losing my personal files because all my prior phones had sdcard slots. It completely slipped my mind that the Nexus 4 "sdcard" is pretty much just its internal memory so I lost a handful of pics and other things. For these reasons, I would recommend that even if you thitnk you MIGHT want to root in the future, you might as well do it now and save yourself the time of further redownloading and reconfiguring everything a month from now.
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Always backup your apps and data with Titanium Backup or with adb before unlocking your bootloader =/
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The features and theming is tempting but I'm a bit worried if there's a performance drop, are there Roms that completely surpass stock speed and without bugs?
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If you're only worried about performance, CyanogenMod is as stable if not better than stock roms. If you're looking for optimization, I would suggest ParanoidAndroid. Most roms out there are pretty stable, except for a few hiccups, and I think the best advice is that you should try it personally and have a feel at it. :good:
I would say do it if you are interested constantly flashing ROMs. The only reason I've flashed my S2 because of the T-Mobile bloat. But then I messed more until I bricked.
The N4 is very clean and good as it is and I keep it that way.
I rooted my optimus s but all the roms for it sucksuck
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So I ended up rooting and tried pa but am liking xylon stable a lot and about to give rasbean a try
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Im a pure n00b. I'm About to buy my first droid phone. Im very knowledgeable about iphones and the jailbreak world but I'm not sure what would be the benefit of rooting a droid phone. I've heard the droid community is pretty wide open without rooting.
What would be some benefits of rooting a phone like the samsung galaxy s4? I did see that it will allow you to tweak bluetooth to connect a ps3 controller to it wirelessly for emulators but is it anything else that XDA could share to help push me in that direction? any cool features?
Thanks in advance.
I'd say the biggest benefit from rooting is getting rid of that crap that both Samsung and AT&T put on the S4
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
Pretty much still running the stock rom on mine, but used root to flash a mod that allows free wifi tethering and hot spot, and an extended power menu.
Flashing roms is also a big reason most people root phones. You can pick and choose what you want(touchwiz roms or aosp) and find one you like.
I wouldnt want an android phone without rooting it.
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I mainly rooted for faux's kernel which removed the launcher lag and the messaging lag that occurs sometimes. I also rooted to removed all the bloatware.
Biggest reasons to root, for me personally, are custom roms, custom kernels, debloating, backing up and restoring apps, theming, overclocking, and undervolting. These are just my reasons personally. There are literally hundreds of other things you can do as a root user that you couldnt do otherwise.
The worst case scenario of rooting being, if you really dont find the benefit for yourself personally, its pretty easy to revert back to stock unrooted. These samsung phones now are basically unbrickable and flashing is really easy, especially if youve went through jailbreaking an iphone... lol rooting a samsung device is way easier imo.
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I root for the deep-level backup capabilities, custom kernels that improve speed and battery life, Pie Control (makes navigating & using a large phone much easier), custom ROMs, mods like Hot Spot and custom themes, and deeper level security apps (firewall, find your phone, etc).
Here are the main reasons while people usually root. In no particular order.
1. Ad blocking
2. Remove unwanted apps "bloatware"
3. Custom ROMs/ advanced custom theming
4. Custom kernels and features such as nandroid backups and under/over clocking etc.
5. Tethering/free hot spot
6. Aosp ROMs
Ultimately think of rooting as taking complete control of your device. You can do pretty much anything depending on your knowledge after you are rooted.
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thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
wotandsdwys said:
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
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I was thinking the same thing..lol
How much space are you guys saving when you root and get rid of all the bloatware? How much available space is on your phone before all of your additional aps?
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djv3n0m said:
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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Exactly what I was going to say! Sextape always came thru on the e4gt as well. The next update would always be out before the official release. So glad to see him have stuff for the s4 as well.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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This is generally the case with OTA's, but every year it seems like rooting becomes more straight forwsrd, especially for Samsung. As for MDL it was a specific attribute added by Samsung to tighten up control on deeper root access that broke root, but it was hardly a locked bootloader or anything that severe. Re-rooting was as simple as loading a kernel and then Odining. At this point, most manufacturers are beginning to understand the benefits of the development community. Now if we can just get the carriers to "get it."
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To put it very simple I root my phone to be free and to have my phone the way I wanted it not the way a company wants me to have it
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Once you root your phone and learn all the possibilities that come along with it, you won't go back haha It's a lot of fun after knowing your stuff. reading in this forum is probably one of, if not, the best thing/s you can do
Without root it beats the purpose of checking in every day. I used to check XDA multiple times a day. Now I check it every other day and there's always nothing interesting. If we had ROOT man it'll be different. Miss downloading flashing roms. Waiting for new updates with new features. I miss ROMS but without an unlocked bootloader this phone is F'ed. Locked down till lord knows when. Seriously thinking about buying another galaxy. I sold my note 4. Should of kept it lol
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I feel your frustration, but have to say one thing here. I've been using Android since the G1, I've rooted every device I've owned (too numerous to list) until now. The GS7E is really quite amazing, even without root. I had planned on leaving it stock as long as I could tolerate it anyways, so I was not entirely crushed to learn it was locked down so tightly. I mean, had root been a requirement for me, I'd have gone with a Nexus - where bootloader unlock is a right, not a gift.
I do miss proper hosts based ad blocking, but Samsung/Android Pay make up for the shortcomings of root-free ad blocking. The ability to change dpi without root (although it breaks Android Pay, but a quick reboot sets that right) and the AOSP like appearance of the Good lock screen helps me not miss Xposed. And the fact that things simply work, without the additional burden of wondering if it was something I flashed causing weirdness on my device, means I can spend more time playing with my phone... and less time backing up, flashing, restoring, adb'ing, fastbooting, installing/updating drivers, and debugging.
Would I have it the other way around? Certainly, but either way is a compromise, and there is no going back. So, perhaps it's good (for me) that we don't have root. Or, I might already be missing Samsung/Android Pay, and the stability of the stock rom.
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I feel your frustration, but have to say one thing here. I've been using Android since the G1, I've rooted every device I've owned (too numerous to list) until now. The GS7E is really quite amazing, even without root. I had planned on leaving it stock as long as I could tolerate it anyways, so I was not entirely crushed to learn it was locked down so tightly. I mean, had root been a requirement for me, I'd have gone with a Nexus - where bootloader unlock is a right, not a gift.
I do miss proper hosts based ad blocking, but Samsung/Android Pay make up for the shortcomings of root-free ad blocking. The ability to change dpi without root (although it breaks Android Pay, but a quick reboot sets that right) and the AOSP like appearance of the Good lock screen helps me not miss Xposed. And the fact that things simply work, without the additional burden of wondering if it was something I flashed causing weirdness on my device, means I can spend more time playing with my phone... and less time backing up, flashing, restoring, adb'ing, fastbooting, installing/updating drivers, and debugging.
Would I have it the other way around? Certainly, but either way is a compromise, and there is no going back. So, perhaps it's good (for me) that we don't have root. Or, I might already be missing Samsung/Android Pay, and the stability of the stock rom.
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That's cool bro, but like you I like the s7 edge. But being XDA I miss coming here to look for roms and being exited about getting an update. Yea I can customize it how I want it. Yes there no YouTube adds with RED. but being XDA that's just what I miss lol. Should probably just delete the app. Not like I'm going anywhere with this phone. Still believe rooting isn't a necessity with the galaxy s7 edge. I can't use Samsung pay so I could care less .
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I would like root mainly for adaway. Other than that I don't need to do anything. I honestly don't have time for the flashing game anymore.
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i want root for viper4android and changing mixerpaths file its just not loud or clear enough without those 2 things
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mrro82 said:
I would like root mainly for adaway. Other than that I don't need to do anything. I honestly don't have time for the flashing game anymore.
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Plus one. And for viper4android . Other wise this phone is perfect and I love samsung pay
sonkameja said:
Mods are even more useless letting skinomi threads fly in general discussion area, and deleting comments
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I could not disagree more. Mods are even more important in device forums where there is no active development, as the entire device forum becomes a pissing contest where everyone who doesn't have anything to contribute just argue with each other - making it even harder to find what useful information there is.
I appreciate the work mods do here due to the fact that the mods here are volunteers who don't get paid (with anything but insults from people like you apparently).
So if you are mad at the mods for removing something you posted, perhaps you should read the forum rules to understand why your post was removed. That and take it to PM, instead of *crapping on all mods in a public post.
I upgraded to this from a note 3 and I'm devastated to learn the bootloader is locked. I'm tempted to return the device or sell it after its payed off. We should make a group that shows interest in not locking the bootloader of the Note 6 do when it's released at least there was a movement.
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nano303 said:
Without root it beats the purpose of checking in every day. I used to check XDA multiple times a day. Now I check it every other day and there's always nothing interesting. If we had ROOT man it'll be different. Miss downloading flashing roms. Waiting for new updates with new features. I miss ROMS but without an unlocked bootloader this phone is F'ed. Locked down till lord knows when. Seriously thinking about buying another galaxy. I sold my note 4. Should of kept it lol
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Yep. Getting my s5 back. Im sick of no root. Battery draining. Im sick sick of it
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I think without root I have become a more productive person with life in general
I just want root so I can delete the unwanted apps and for cyanogen roms.
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the reason we don't have root is simple... no one is working on it.
anyone capable of actually doing it has already been hired by the people who don't want you to do it
After using this device for a month or so I really don't care about root. Yes I would like adaway and Viper but all in all I would make the same choice all over again.
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htc 10 all the way, rooted
matteosaeed said:
htc 10 all the way, rooted
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Lol
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matteosaeed said:
htc 10 all the way, rooted
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Screen is too small and the quality is garbage compared to OLED, otherwise I'd agree.
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Is there anyone actively working on root that I can get with? I haven't been in the dev game for a long time, but browsing the web without adaway is getting ridiculous
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Nitemare3219 said:
Screen is too small and the quality is garbage compared to OLED, otherwise I'd agree.
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It is not that small bigger than the s7 that I had. The oled and amoled is great but it feels more fluid on the HTC with this LCD. Rooted and custom ROM, that beats the s7 and edge any day of the week. Battery is going great now. I am at 51 percent with 3 hours sot unplugged since 8 this morning and now it is almost 8.
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It is not that small bigger than the s7 that I had. The oled and amoled is great but it feels more fluid on the HTC with this LCD. Rooted and custom ROM, that beats the s7 and edge any day of the week. Battery is going great now. I am at 51 percent with 3 hours sot unplugged since 8 this morning and now it is almost 8.
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Sorry no offense but who cares.
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