Might root - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What disadvantages do I have by rooting? Had my n4 since friday
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Have you unlocked the bootloader yet?
There are no disadvantages to root, think of it like having admin permission of your system.
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device, as a safety feature. On a nexus, since it's only one command to unlock, it's recommended to do that straight away if you even think you might start down the road to custom town in the future.
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Yup...as far as I'm concerned, everyone should ALWAYS root. A - it's part of what's truly awesome about Android, B - it will more than likely come in handy at some point and C - there really isn't any reason NOT to do it.
Just do it soon after getting the device (I had my N4 for about 30 min before I started the process...within an hr of getting it, the bootloader was unlocked, it was rooted, had a custom kernel and it was ROMd) since, as stated, a wipe is usually required. And, even still, some know how with titanium can even soften that blow.

Disadvantages? Potentially void your warranty, less secure device (malicious apps that ask for SU permission), rom flashing addiction, spending too much time on XDA.

The occasional app won't run rooted - TWC TV, for example.
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So what happens if I don't root right away? That's what makes me nervous
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ridearoundsolo said:
So what happens if I don't root right away? That's what makes me nervous
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Well, nothing. It's not a requirement.
You won't be able to use apps that need SU permission, that's all.
Unlocking your bootloader is not the same as rooting, you should do that asap if you plan on ever mucking around with your device.

lwfb said:
Well, nothing. It's not a requirement.
You won't be able to use apps that need SU permission, that's all.
Unlocking your bootloader is not the same as rooting, you should do that asap if you plan on ever mucking around with your device.
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Why is required to unlock asap? I know about rooting its just the first time I've heard to unlock boot loader asap like does something get ruined if I hold off on unlocking the bootloader?
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ridearoundsolo said:
Why is required to unlock asap? I know about rooting its just the first time I've heard to unlock boot loader asap like does something get ruined if I hold off on unlocking the bootloader?
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It is not required to do it asap.
Some just recommend doing it quick because unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone. So you lose the data on there.
Story time:
Personally I always use the device for a while before I go near rooting and all the fun that comes with it, just to make sure I have a good product and stable device.
I had a Desire Z before, and had the motherboard replaced once because it had failed. When I got it back I tried it for maybe a day or two. I noticed it was a bit unstable and blamed it on the HTC software just being crap. So I rooted and flashed CM to it.
That turned out to be unstable as wel... Phone would just randomly reboot.
Unrooting and returning that Z to stock was a bit of a challenge. A guy on IRC helped me out tremendously and I'm still thankful for it, because together we succeeded.
And I could RMA once more...
So that's why I tend to wait a bit and confirm my device is solid before I go rooting.

stejoo said:
It is not required to do it asap.
Some just recommend doing it quick because unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone. So you lose the data on there.
Story time:
Personally I always use the device for a while before I go near rooting and all the fun that comes with it, just to make sure I have a good product and stable device.
I had a Desire Z before, and had the motherboard replaced once because it had failed. When I got it back I tried it for maybe a day or two. I noticed it was a bit unstable and blamed it on the HTC software just being crap. So I rooted and flashed CM to it.
That turned out to be unstable as wel... Phone would just randomly reboot.
Unrooting and returning that Z to stock was a bit of a challenge. A guy on IRC helped me out tremendously and I'm still thankful for it, because together we succeeded.
And I could RMA once more...
So that's why I tend to wait a bit and confirm my device is solid before I go rooting.
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I agree about testing the device to see if it can hold on its own before rooting, my last phone the HTC one s was a nightmare with rooting and flashing, but I know this is much easier because I own a nexus 7 which is rooted and running codefirex
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Hello I just receive my Nexus 4 and I Rooted 5 minutes later
Now I have a question If the Nexus 4 is Rooted it will continue receiving Android Os Updates directly from Google?
Thanks

Marioaguado said:
Hello I just receive my Nexus 4 and I Rooted 5 minutes later
Now I have a question If the Nexus 4 is Rooted it will continue receiving Android Os Updates directly from Google?
Thanks
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Yes as long as it is stock and the kernel is stock you can receive OTA (over the air) updates. You might/will probably lose root though when the update is installed but that is not a problem, just reflash it.

Yea...you will possibly void the warranty. You can usually flash back to stock if need be and, if you break your screen or something and just want to use insurance or something, just dip it in water for an hr or so...they'll never know what you did to it other than dip it in water.
And yes, you do open the door to malware, possibly. Gotta be careful about what you install and what you grant permissions to.
The reason I say to do it soon, as was said, unlocking, (sometimes) rooting and romming will usually wipe your device. If you do all this as soon as you get the device, it doesn't matter. If you use the phone for however long, you'll lose all that data. That's the logic behind it.

I've had the phone for little over a month now and I just rooted it yesterday. I had no intention of rooting, but I got myself a Moga controller and to get the most out of that controller, it requires root.
Of course, by that time I already had all my apps & such configured exactly as I like them, so it was a bummer to have to re-download and reconfigure everything. ESPECIALLY the internal "sdcard"s contents. I was used to being able to restore and wipe without losing my personal files because all my prior phones had sdcard slots. It completely slipped my mind that the Nexus 4 "sdcard" is pretty much just its internal memory so I lost a handful of pics and other things. For these reasons, I would recommend that even if you thitnk you MIGHT want to root in the future, you might as well do it now and save yourself the time of further redownloading and reconfiguring everything a month from now.

This was a question I had so the responses have been interesting. I've rooted my previous non-Nexus devices (Mytouch 4G, HTC Sensation 4G) mostly so I could get an aosp like ROM. I had a Nexus One but never rooted it. Still trying to decide if I'm going to root my Nexus 4 because I haven't really experienced a ROM that comes without minor issues (Picasa, GPS/Navigation, etc.) The custom ROMs do have a lot of cool features though.
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The features and theming is tempting but I'm a bit worried if there's a performance drop, are there Roms that completely surpass stock speed and without bugs?
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phon00b said:
I've had the phone for little over a month now and I just rooted it yesterday. I had no intention of rooting, but I got myself a Moga controller and to get the most out of that controller, it requires root.
Of course, by that time I already had all my apps & such configured exactly as I like them, so it was a bummer to have to re-download and reconfigure everything. ESPECIALLY the internal "sdcard"s contents. I was used to being able to restore and wipe without losing my personal files because all my prior phones had sdcard slots. It completely slipped my mind that the Nexus 4 "sdcard" is pretty much just its internal memory so I lost a handful of pics and other things. For these reasons, I would recommend that even if you thitnk you MIGHT want to root in the future, you might as well do it now and save yourself the time of further redownloading and reconfiguring everything a month from now.
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Always backup your apps and data with Titanium Backup or with adb before unlocking your bootloader =/
ridearoundsolo said:
The features and theming is tempting but I'm a bit worried if there's a performance drop, are there Roms that completely surpass stock speed and without bugs?
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If you're only worried about performance, CyanogenMod is as stable if not better than stock roms. If you're looking for optimization, I would suggest ParanoidAndroid. Most roms out there are pretty stable, except for a few hiccups, and I think the best advice is that you should try it personally and have a feel at it. :good:

I would say do it if you are interested constantly flashing ROMs. The only reason I've flashed my S2 because of the T-Mobile bloat. But then I messed more until I bricked.
The N4 is very clean and good as it is and I keep it that way.

I rooted my optimus s but all the roms for it sucksuck
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So I ended up rooting and tried pa but am liking xylon stable a lot and about to give rasbean a try
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To root or not to root?

Figured I would finally start a thread.
I've had my EVO for awhile now, 6-9 months. I love it. Initially when I bought it, I had every intention of rooting it, but after having used the native fw I'm not even sure it's necessary. What am I missing that rooting my EVO has to offer?
rrasco said:
Figured I would finally start a thread.
I've had my EVO for awhile now, 6-9 months. I love it. Initially when I bought it, I had every intention of rooting it, but after having used the native fw I'm not even sure it's necessary. What am I missing that rooting my EVO has to offer?
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Wen you root your phone you can flash custom roms free wifi theder you can overclock the CPU also you Dan download titanium backup and backup all your apps and app data. I would recommended rooting
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Root. It's not a question, its a must. The benefits are endless
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there is nothing wrong with stock, in fact you won't need to deal with a lot of the bugs and hiccups of custom ROMS.
However, there are many benefits of rooting. There is tethering (or pay for it), over/under clocking, battery saving features, AOSP ROMS (which in my mind make it worth while), and different sense versions to try. Rooting also helps optimize your phone. the amount you will learn is priceless. Everytime you flash a new ROM it is almost like getting a brand new phone.
If you don't like be rooted, you can easily unroot.
I rooted my Evo soon after getting it but I remained stock quite a while.
There are plenty of reasons to root even if you want to remain totally stock.
For me the reasons were:
- Occasional use of tethering. Never needed it enough to pay for it and I never used that much data.
- to back up my apps and all data.
- to remove apps that I did not want to prevent them from running. (Amazon MP3, Sprint Navigation, etc).
- to be able to integrate updates (to Maps, Gmail, Facebook) into the ROM using Titanium Backup. Saved space in the Data partition for other apps.
- Modify the hosts file to block some ads.
- etc...
When I decided to flash something I started with the kernel (to try SBC and then just to use HAVS).
The 'brick' warnings always made me edgy about doing it. Any recommended ROMs worth giving a shot? Would be nice to get a better swype-like keyboard, can't really think of anything else I 'need'.
I wouldn't use tethering either, I barely use my laptop as is and if I did I would get a verizon 4g LTE mifi since Sprint's 4g is a joke.
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The 'brick' warnings always made me edgy about doing it. Any recommended ROMs worth giving a shot? Would be nice to get a better swype-like keyboard, can't really think of anything else I 'need'.
I wouldn't use tethering either, I barely use my laptop as is and if I did I would get a verizon 4g LTE mifi since Sprint's 4g is a joke.
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U can still get a better keyboard without rooting. And the bricking part if anything goes wrong people here will gladly help you if you ask. Also if your not that type person who mess around with your phone just leave it be. You can always bring your phone back to factory stock if you need it too.
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I always thought bricked was unfix-able. Good to know. I'm a developer, so completely open to modding my phone, so long as there is added benefit.
Is there an easy way to move your current apps over to the new fw, or is that one of the caveats to having stock fw? SD data is untouched, I'm assuming?
I did it to get rid of Nova. That app gave me nightmaress.
Yes you can alwayz do a nondroid backup and if you brick you phone you can bring it back to your last backup.. right now I'm using team noctunals xplod e4g rom based of Sony experia working very well
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Yes you can alwayz do a nondroid backup and if you brick you phone you can bring it back to your last backup.. right now I'm using team noctunals xplod e4g rom based of Sony experia working very well
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You will not be able to restore a nandroid if you brick your phone. When the phone is truly bricked you can not get into the bootloader or recovery. The good news is it is very difficult to brick your Evo unless you really screw up. Just about the only way is to pull the battery while flashing the radio. Flashing a ROM is pretty safe. Even if you screw it up you can always get into the bootloader or recovery and reflash.
I suggest you don't, and if you do, make sure it's not from cyanogenmod.
Good Luck!!

should I root

Every single android device I had has been rooted the very first day.
With the nexus 7 I can't see the point to be frank. It is doing everything I want minus the ad blocking.
Any advantages of rooting? Please let me know. I feel like an apple fan boy
Is this even a question?
What kind of disadvantages is there to rooting unless your messing with things you shouldnt be.
An advantage could be that you could backup and restore all your apps and data, if you ever needed to.
jon7701 said:
Is this even a question?
What kind of disadvantages is there to rooting unless your messing with things you shouldnt be.
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Spending one hour every single day just to try another rom. Losing the social life. You know, general disadvantages of being a flashoholic.
calyxim said:
Every single android device I had has been rooted the very first day.
With the nexus 7 I can't see the point to be frank. It is doing everything I want minus the ad blocking.
Any advantages of rooting? Please let me know. I feel like an apple fan boy
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My nexus 7 is the only Droid device I haven't rooted, no point IMO.
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Im like you, i ve had 11 different android devices over the years and each one was rooted within a few days, but for some reason It took me about 4 months to finally root mine, I know what you mean its damn near perfect out of the box. But the 4.2 update changed my mind and I was forced to root. And I'm glad I did, I've flashed 5 or 6 custom ROMs now for this and have settled on slimbean for a while, I can't see changing it until I get the urge to flash as this is perfect - and I can use all my rooted apps now, along with being able to make nandroids.
Just root, and try to find an awesome ROM to stick with for a bit... you won't loose your social life for more than an evening or so and you'll be much happier in the long run!
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Look at how many features aokp adds, I'd say that's a good enough reason.

New TMo Nexus 4 Owner - Worth it to Root/Mod it?

I'm coming from the LG G2X, and it was a nightmare. I'm very glad to be into a phone that is actually working, and working well, It's a beautiful phone as well.
So with the G2X I rooted it fairly early on to try out the various mods, since LG and TMO elected not to support the phone at all. I kinda HAD to mod it to make it work in some respects.
So, with the Nexus 4, it seems to be awfully good just as it is. So what's the reason TO root or mod this phone? Just to have the experience of CM or another mod?
You should unlock the boot loader now at least because it will wipe everything. That way if you want to mod in the future you won't lose data.
I'd say run the phone stock until you run into something you want to change that requires root. This phone doesn't need anything out of the box but there is a ton available.
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A funny story about rooting.
http://m.androidcentral.com/rooting-it-me-some-qa
3UR0TR45H said:
You should unlock the boot loader now at least because it will wipe everything. That way if you want to mod in the future you won't lose data.
I'd say run the phone stock until you run into something you want to change that requires root. This phone doesn't need anything out of the box but there is a ton available.
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+1. I waited a few days to unlock my bootloader/root and lost all the apps that I installed. I mean they were backed up to google so i just had to install them twice lol. But stock is more than efficient right now.
When I initially got the phone, I did not want to flash any custom roms, but I did want to root and unlock it in case I wanted to flash a custom rom down the road. I didn't see anything that peaked my interest when I had my Nexus 7 for a while and that is still pretty much stock. Come the N4 and PIE and I had to go and try it. Now I am hook all over again lol.
It's fun! And more stable than the MIUI days of the Nexus one and Sensation. :good:
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When I initially got the phone, I did not want to flash any custom roms, but I did want to root and unlock it in case I wanted to flash a custom rom down the road. I didn't see anything that peaked my interest when I had my Nexus 7 for a while and that is still pretty much stock. Come the N4 and PIE and I had to go and try it. Now I am hook all over again lol.
It's fun! And more stable than the MIUI days of the Nexus one and Sensation. :good:
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I said the same thing lol. Unlocked and rooted to use Titanium Backup and told myself no ROMs, just kernels. Lasted for about 2 weeks and started flashing like crazy.
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Debating on Rooting the S4

Im a pure n00b. I'm About to buy my first droid phone. Im very knowledgeable about iphones and the jailbreak world but I'm not sure what would be the benefit of rooting a droid phone. I've heard the droid community is pretty wide open without rooting.
What would be some benefits of rooting a phone like the samsung galaxy s4? I did see that it will allow you to tweak bluetooth to connect a ps3 controller to it wirelessly for emulators but is it anything else that XDA could share to help push me in that direction? any cool features?
Thanks in advance.
I'd say the biggest benefit from rooting is getting rid of that crap that both Samsung and AT&T put on the S4
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
Pretty much still running the stock rom on mine, but used root to flash a mod that allows free wifi tethering and hot spot, and an extended power menu.
Flashing roms is also a big reason most people root phones. You can pick and choose what you want(touchwiz roms or aosp) and find one you like.
I wouldnt want an android phone without rooting it.
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I mainly rooted for faux's kernel which removed the launcher lag and the messaging lag that occurs sometimes. I also rooted to removed all the bloatware.
Biggest reasons to root, for me personally, are custom roms, custom kernels, debloating, backing up and restoring apps, theming, overclocking, and undervolting. These are just my reasons personally. There are literally hundreds of other things you can do as a root user that you couldnt do otherwise.
The worst case scenario of rooting being, if you really dont find the benefit for yourself personally, its pretty easy to revert back to stock unrooted. These samsung phones now are basically unbrickable and flashing is really easy, especially if youve went through jailbreaking an iphone... lol rooting a samsung device is way easier imo.
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I root for the deep-level backup capabilities, custom kernels that improve speed and battery life, Pie Control (makes navigating & using a large phone much easier), custom ROMs, mods like Hot Spot and custom themes, and deeper level security apps (firewall, find your phone, etc).
Here are the main reasons while people usually root. In no particular order.
1. Ad blocking
2. Remove unwanted apps "bloatware"
3. Custom ROMs/ advanced custom theming
4. Custom kernels and features such as nandroid backups and under/over clocking etc.
5. Tethering/free hot spot
6. Aosp ROMs
Ultimately think of rooting as taking complete control of your device. You can do pretty much anything depending on your knowledge after you are rooted.
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thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
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I was thinking the same thing..lol
How much space are you guys saving when you root and get rid of all the bloatware? How much available space is on your phone before all of your additional aps?
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djv3n0m said:
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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Exactly what I was going to say! Sextape always came thru on the e4gt as well. The next update would always be out before the official release. So glad to see him have stuff for the s4 as well.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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This is generally the case with OTA's, but every year it seems like rooting becomes more straight forwsrd, especially for Samsung. As for MDL it was a specific attribute added by Samsung to tighten up control on deeper root access that broke root, but it was hardly a locked bootloader or anything that severe. Re-rooting was as simple as loading a kernel and then Odining. At this point, most manufacturers are beginning to understand the benefits of the development community. Now if we can just get the carriers to "get it."
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To put it very simple I root my phone to be free and to have my phone the way I wanted it not the way a company wants me to have it
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Once you root your phone and learn all the possibilities that come along with it, you won't go back haha It's a lot of fun after knowing your stuff. reading in this forum is probably one of, if not, the best thing/s you can do

I want to root but I have a few concerns

So I want to root my device but I haven't rooted/had a rooted device in 2 years since the HTC One M7.
My main concerns are:
Worried that my banking app won't work once rooted and I need this app.
Every phone I rooted/flashed ROMs on had some sort of slow down issues or other little issues here and there.
I some how managed to bork the radio on the HTC One and I have no clue how I broke it as all I did was flash a rom which I had done many times before on that device and many before it. I did fix the problem about 3 months after getting a new phone and then sold the HTC after it was fixed, but still, that issue plagued me for about 6 months of my time with the phone.
I think these are my only real concerns. And what has sort of kept me from rooting the last 5 phones I've had and as I'm back on a nexus device for the first time since the galaxy nexus I thought it may be time to start rooting and flashing again. Oh I have missed having a nexus.
Does anyone have any advice? Or does anyone know if there's a work around so that the mobile banking apps still work when rooted?
undeadadd said:
So I want to root my device but I haven't rooted/had a rooted device in 2 years since the HTC One M7.
My main concerns are:
Worried that my banking app won't work once rooted and I need this app.
Every phone I rooted/flashed ROMs on had some sort of slow down issues or other little issues here and there.
I some how managed to bork the radio on the HTC One and I have no clue how I broke it as all I did was flash a rom which I had done many times before on that device and many before it. I did fix the problem about 3 months after getting a new phone and then sold the HTC after it was fixed, but still, that issue plagued me for about 6 months of my time with the phone.
I think these are my only real concerns. And what has sort of kept me from rooting the last 5 phones I've had and as I'm back on a nexus device for the first time since the galaxy nexus I thought it may be time to start rooting and flashing again. Oh I have missed having a nexus.
Does anyone have any advice? Or does anyone know if there's a work around so that the mobile banking apps still work when rooted?
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The banking apps generally won't work with root, and some won't work with an unlocked bootloader either. I'm lucky, my banking app does work with root.
It's virtually impossible to brick a Nexus unless you do something really crazy and flash something to the bootloader partition that isn't actually a bootloader image. As long as you have your bootloader you can pretty much recover from anything with the factory images.
I have a guide you might find helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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OK thanks. I really need my banking app lol
Try it and find out. You can always unroot and re-lock the boot loader.
You don't need to run a different ROM, it really depends on what you want to do. I tend to run the OEM ROM with a custom kernel and do the minor tweaks I like myself. Why do you feel you want root, and need for it?
It's weird my 5x didn't have wells fargo app available and it was not compatible, but for some reason the 6p it works no problem and lets me install it. Chase and wells fargo works for me
Wells Fargo go here since my nexus 6
400ixl said:
Try it and find out. You can always unroot and re-lock the boot loader.
You don't need to run a different ROM, it really depends on what you want to do. I tend to run the OEM ROM with a custom kernel and do the minor tweaks I like myself. Why do you feel you want root, and need for it?
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I always liked tinkering with my phone,flashing ROMs and all the additional tweaks.

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