Hello all,
I am really interested in trying out the Franco Kernel on my Nexus 4 but would still like the ability to update OTA in the future if possible.
From my research I understand that you lose the ability to do OTA updates once a custom kernel is installed.
If I ever wish to update OTA in the future is there a way? Can I just install the stock kernel and do an OTA update (without losing data on the phone)?
Appreciate your help on this.
FaeLLe said:
Hello all,
I am really interested in trying out the Franco Kernel on my Nexus 4 but would still like the ability to update OTA in the future if possible.
From my research I understand that you lose the ability to do OTA updates once a custom kernel is installed.
If I ever wish to update OTA in the future is there a way? Can I just install the stock kernel and do an OTA update (without losing data on the phone)?
Appreciate your help on this.
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Yes you can after flashing back the stock kernel
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eainyow said:
Yes you can after flashing back the stock kernel
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Will I lose any data on phone after I flash stock kernel?
What about root, does flashing stock kernel affect root status? I think not since Su binary is in file system.
FaeLLe said:
Will I lose any data on phone after I flash stock kernel?
What about root, does flashing stock kernel affect root status? I think not since Su binary is in file system.
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You won't lose any data or root access by flashing kernels.
Even if you have a custom recovery with the stock kernel, you can still receive OTAs?
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KrimsonChin said:
Even if you have a custom recovery with the stock kernel, you can still receive OTAs?
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As long as everything else is stock yes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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Sorry for the noob questions but I tried to update my Nexus 4 currently rooted with 4.2.2 and Franco Kernel and I'm getting the error message "Installation Aborted". Do I need to unroot my phone in order to update to the 4.3 OTA?
Everything needs to be stock for the ota update.
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MidtownHD said:
Everything needs to be stock for the ota update.
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Is is possible to go back to stock without losing all my data such as photos, messages, apps etc...?
What else did you change besides rooting it and installing Franco kernel?
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MidtownHD said:
What else did you change besides rooting it and installing Franco kernel?
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Those were the only 2 modifications that I made. Would it possible to sideload 4.3 without having to return back to stock?
lawrenceny said:
Those were the only 2 modifications that I made. Would it possible to sideload 4.3 without having to return back to stock?
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To install the ota, you can be rooted, but you have to root again. You have to be on the stock kernel and on stock recovery (for both how-tos can be found in the forums). Hopefully you didn't modification anything on the system ui or deinstalled some of the system apps, if you did you have to reflash a stock image, this can also be done without losing your data(how-to can be found in the forum), but In this case it would be easier to flash a 4.3 directly.
I'm sure you will manage your way. Good luck and happy reading :thumbup:
Franco kernel changes a lot of stuff, so u might get a bootloop. Just find the 4.2.2 stock kernel and flash of, then try to sideload the ota update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101488
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My N10 has Twrp recovery installed and stock 4.3 but earlier on it received a 'minor' 4.3 OTA update. It Rebooted and just went to Twrp and just sat there.
Can someone please tell me how to install this update?
Where is the downloaded firmware update stored and can I install it using Twrp once I've found it?
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Anyone, please?
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Others are having the same problem. Have a look on this thread for more info.
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Others are having the same problem. Have a look on this thread for more info.
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Thanks but that's not the problem I'm having. When I ask it to don't he update, it simply reboots to turn, obviously it's expecting to find the stock recovery but it doesn't. I was just wondering if the updated stock room was available so I could just flash it again.
I don't think is anything other than a minor update anyway so I guess I could just ignore it and wait for the next biggie!
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Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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sacramento458 said:
Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
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Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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Alright thanks will do
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Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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playya said:
my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
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You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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sacramento458 said:
You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
Tricepz said:
Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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Not to sure but as long as you're on stock ROM and stock kernel you should be fine although I don't know if custom recovery keeps you from getting update.
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playya said:
you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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sacramento458 said:
Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
playya said:
no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
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Absolutely bro
You do have to be on stock recovery, stock bootloader for the update to go thru properly otherwise it'll fail.
Tricepz said:
Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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RASTAVIPER said:
If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
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The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
Tricepz said:
The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
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Here a direct link for stock kernel 0.84 from JWR66V factory image
http://d-h.st/cIJ
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
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Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recover?
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Schur1k said:
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recovery?
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maritimesbob said:
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
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I'm sure that radio doesn't affect your ability to flash certain ROMs so you shouldn't have a problem flashing 4.4. As far as losing SD data not sure how that's happening.
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Hello everyone, my question is hopefully simple. I'm rooted and safestrapped. I would like to know if I take OTAs in the future that break my root will safestrap still be there? Like for example, can I run a nonrooted stock ROM with safestrap installed or will safestrap get uninstalled if I take an OTA Update?
Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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QbanXpress said:
Hello everyone, my question is hopefully simple. I'm rooted and safestrapped. I would like to know if I take OTAs in the future that break my root will safestrap still be there? Like for example, can I run a nonrooted stock ROM with safestrap installed or will safestrap get uninstalled if I take an OTA Update?
Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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You shouldn't be able to even accept an OTA if you're rooted, it won't let you go through with it. You should never accept an OTA regardless, and rather wait until someone packages the update up within a ROM so you can still get the benefits
I wasn't aware that being routed would not allow me to accept an OTA. Are you site this happens when the stock ROM is installed? Or, are you talking about if I have a prerooted ROM installed?
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QbanXpress said:
I wasn't aware that being routed would not allow me to accept an OTA. Are you site this happens when the stock ROM is installed? Or, are you talking about if I have a prerooted ROM installed?
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Good question, it's been a long long time on a previous device since I accepted an OTA :laugh:
Someone always packages it up as a flashable for us, just like the MJ7 Note 3 update....it's up the same week
OK then what I will be doing tonight is flashing the rooted stock ROM. This way I don't have to do worry about any OTA updates. I will be flashing in safestrap over the stock slot. No need to create a second ROM slot for the same ROM just rooted.
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