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RAZR HD's radio versus your previous phone...

I have a Rezound and it's radio held on to a LTE signal a lot better than my RAZR Maxx HD.. Could it be due to the way HTC implemented the Rezound's antenna in the battery cover, could be... Although when I have a strong signal with the RAZR HD, the through-put speeds are greater on speed tests. More side-by-side testing before I make my decision on whether I keep this new toy....
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Which antenna? 1x/3G or 4G? I was testing Razr M and it lost 10dbm in 4G just from getting picked up. 3G was hardly affected and voice was rock solid. Looking at the two side by side in the store, the Maxx HD didn't have that issue.

The Razr HD would drop 4G LTE and fall back to 3G in building and driving down on the highway. Same exact places with the Rezound 4G LTE never drops. Side by side on 4G, there is a 10-15 dBm difference..
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Jay A whY said:
I have a Rezound and it's radio held on to a LTE signal a lot better than my RAZR Maxx HD.. Could it be due to the way HTC implemented the Rezound's antenna in the battery cover, could be... Although when I have a strong signal with the RAZR HD, the through-put speeds are greater on speed tests. More side-by-side testing before I make my decision on whether I keep this new toy....
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Out of all of Verizon's 4G phones I've used/reviewed (which is all of them) the HTC Rezound still has the best 4G reception in my opinion.
Inside my house, most phones will cycle between 4G & 3G depending on what room you are in, and others (like the HTC Thunderbolt and Samsung Galaxy Nexus) won't get 4G at all. But the HTC Rezound stays on 4G. From what I heard a while back, HTC didn't want a repeat of the Thunderbolt with 4G issues, so they redesigned the antenna and increase the power to it.
With the RAZR HD and Galaxy S III here, both of those do have the 4G/3G cycling in my house, but the RAZR HD is still pulling a better signal around -112dBm with the GS3 at -116dBm.
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dandar said:
Which antenna? 1x/3G or 4G? I was testing Razr M and it lost 10dbm in 4G just from getting picked up. 3G was hardly affected and voice was rock solid. Looking at the two side by side in the store, the Maxx HD didn't have that issue.
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When looking at the dBm numbers, 4G at the 700MHz spectrum will be about 22dBm less than 1X or 3G 800/1900MHz. This was discussed in another tread, where the guy went into great detail about how the signal is measured by phones.
So for example, if your connected to the same Verizon tower with voice, 3G, and 4G, you might show -90dBm for 1X voice or 3G data, but -112dBm for 4G.

Just did another test via "Phone info" app
Rezound = -76 dBm / 8 ASU
RAZR Max HD = -98 dBm / 43 ASU
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Same thing here when comparing my Maxx HD to the Rezound. I notice a 15 to 20 dbm difference side by side with the Rez holding a 4g signal indoors while the Maxx drops to 3g. Glad I am not the only one who noticed this as I was ready to return the Maxx as defective. Anyone else with weaker than expected signals? Otherwise love love love this phone. Even an iPhone 4 user commented how nice this is.
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I really like Razr Maxx HD! The build quality is the best I've seen in a long time and battery life is second to none.
I just wished I never had the Rezound, so I wouldn't know what a real radio is suppose to be like..
..... the jury is still out, should I keep my New Moto?!
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At least from my perspective, I can tell you that the radio in this phone is better than the one in my Thunderbolt...Everything is better than my Thunderbolt...:good:

I'm really enjoying the Motorola Razr HD Maxx, It's a really great phone. As far as the radio, the only other Verizon LTE phones I used have been this one, the s iii, gnex, and the iPhone 5. In terms of radio, I think the Razr has the best the signal of the 4 I used with the the iPhone coming in a close second. The gnex signal for me was not that great compared to the other phones. But I'm really thinking long and hard whether or not to keep the device or not. Moto tracked record for not updating devices is well known. I know they said the phone will get a jelly bean update, but remember how long the original droid Razr take to get ICS? I mean they were advertising ICS upgradable when the phone came out. My second concern is the hardware the phone was released with, I originally got this phone for the all day battery life and so far it's been serving that purpose. Btw I love the new moto skin, feel real close to stock and the tweaks they made complement the phone well. But releasing the phone with a single gb of ram and dual core s4 to me leaving a lot to be desired, had the phone came the summer that just passed, I wouldn't think twice of not recommending this phone to someone over a s iii or hox. I think this phone could been moto chance to shine ahead of the other oems had they put 2gb ram,s4 pro and keeping that huge battery. I know the hardware specs dont matter that much untill there software thats optmized well enough to run smooth on.That would off been a phone to definitely hold me over a 2 year contract agreement and rival the competition for a awhile. But fortunate for me, I don't really lock myself into contracts, I mostly just buy outright . I have untill the 1st of November to decide whether or not to keep the phone or not. Been considering the note ii, If The Verizon model comes out before November 1, I'll definitely switch.

I came from the galaxy nexus and i'm much happier with the razr hd maxx. the MUCH improved battery life alone gives me an e-boner and moto's skin atop of ICS isn't too bad. the radio is also much better than the g'nexus and the build quality is awesome!

shock2sys said:
I came from the galaxy nexus and i'm much happier with the razr hd maxx. the MUCH improved battery life alone gives me an e-boner and moto's skin atop of ICS isn't too bad. the radio is also much better than the g'nexus and the build quality is awesome!
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I've also ditched my G'nex. I've had my RAZR HD MAXX for a couple of days now and am loving the hardware. There is a big difference in radio quality. My Bionic owned the G'Nex in signal reception as well.

Hi,
Same reception as my Galaxy S3 little better,
Razr HD GSM version on 2G and 3G networks

Rezound and Incredible 4G hold a usable 4G connection better than any device I've had (and I've had almost all of them). However, the Maxx HD (and original Maxx for that matter) are second in my experience.
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I have pretty much had every verizon 4g phone but most recently I came from the GS3 and at home and work the signal is almost identical which is a complement to the GS3.. although unlike the GS3 I can actually use GPS to locate me and use navigation if needed..
At my house the 4G -dbm signal can go into the-70's so any phone does good at my house
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lazarus2297 said:
I have pretty much had every verizon 4g phone but most recently I came from the GS3 and at home and work the signal is almost identical which is a complement to the GS3.. although unlike the GS3 I can actually use GPS to locate me and use navigation if needed..
At my house the 4G -dbm signal can go into the-70's so any phone does good at my house
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There is a fix for the GS3 GPS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880411&highlight=gps
Download the Galaxy S III Test 2 zip file listed in post 1, then follow the instructions in post 2. It worked for me.

I sold the GS3.. but all the same I hate having to apply a "fix" for something that should work out of the box...
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Jay A whY said:
I have a Rezound and it's radio held on to a LTE signal a lot better than my RAZR Maxx HD.. Could it be due to the way HTC implemented the Rezound's antenna in the battery cover, could be... Although when I have a strong signal with the RAZR HD, the through-put speeds are greater on speed tests. More side-by-side testing before I make my decision on whether I keep this new toy....
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Great deal!

gwhaley said:
I've also ditched my G'nex. I've had my RAZR HD MAXX for a couple of days now and am loving the hardware. There is a big difference in radio quality.
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Same here. Still flashing ROMs on the GNex for grins, but loving my rooted MAXX HD. Battery and build are amazing.

So I got a replacement last night due to the the previous phone kept cycling from 4G to 3G and then loosing signal all together. The replacement is doing the same (So the previous phone was not defective, second phone confirms it for now). So I decided to force set the phone to LTE only and man this radio is a champ! I got LTE coverage on a rural two lane highway in Colorado (Highway 83, 20+ mile stretch, Castlewood State Park to Black Forest @ 60mph) where I normally couldn't with my Rezound... LTE only dropped twice, but reestablished connection promptly.. Download speeds ranged from 6mb - 50mb, upload speeds 256kb - 25mb.. This phone is a keeper!
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How are you forcing it to stay in 4g?

From Gnex to Maxx HD...

Thinking about picking up a Maxx HD because I am starting to dislike the Gnex battery life. Its a tough decision since I would have to buy the Maxx HD off contract. Has anyone done this? Do they feel like they have given anything up (besides the ROMS). I feel with the JB leak and forthcoming official OTA it seems like the software is catching up. I know 4.2 is out there but it seems like the changes are more modular (Google Now being an update to Google Search, keyboard can be updated with root, camera can be updated with root, etc.) and am not sure 4.2 will be that critical. It seems the under the hood improvements are done in 4.1. So anyone have any thoughts on if its worth it to spend that much for the battery?

Well, I didn't come directly from Gnex to Maxx HD, but after 6 replacement Gnexes VzW let me swap out my Gnex for a Maxx. Loved the Gnex as a device, but for me it fell way short as a phone... I had constant call quality issues. I had been running mostly stock ROM's on my Gnex anyway, so flashing and modding weren't high on my priority list - I just wanted a phone that worked as a PHONE!
Right away I loved the Maxx - far superior call quality and, of course, insane batter life. All I wanted was call quality as charging my Gnex never really bothered me. That is until I got spoiled by the Maxx LOL. Not having to constantly monitor your usage in order to preserve battery was a (great) added benefit of making the switch.
Anyway, I decided to go ahead and get the Maxx HD at full retail. As much as I loved my Maxx I really missed my on screen navigation keys (as silly as that sounds). I thought I would return after the 14 days cuz $650 for on screen keys is crazy LOL. Well, today is day 15! This device is truly amazing IMO ... JB will make it that much better (so tempting to flash that leak, but I am trying to hold out for OTA).
My advice is this: if you got the cash and are on the market for a new device I'd definitely recommend the MAXX HD! Great battery, build and radios.
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Thanks for the advice. What really is putting me over the edge is I had this Android night class a couple of weeks ago. I would go into the 3.5 hour class with 100% battery or maybe less since it was at the end of the day. The room killed my reception, I had maybe a bar if I pointed it the right direction. I kid you not, the battery would be done by the end of that 3.5 hours. And I maybe sent a text or two or checked an ebay auction but it was basically unusable without the signal. So its not really about the radio, its more about the battery. Now I have times where I let it sit over night then wake up with maybe 90% if i am lucky and then its a while till I get to a power source. At work I can have it plugged in all the time if I want and in the car I can plug it it. But its starting to become a "wired" device instead of wireless since I have it plugged in all the time so I have 100% when I go somewhere. I hate having to turn this and that off to get a days worth of a charge.

I hear ya... I am not a heavy user (by my definition of the phrase), but I have been averaging about 1 day / 15 to 17 hours on my MAXX HD. Around 2-3 hours screen time, 1.5 - 2 hours of calls, about an hour or so on Pandora and sometimes there's GPS in the mix as well on a single charge.
Bad reception will kill any phone's battery, but at least with the Maxx you've got a big reservoir ...
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Coming from an Inc4G to the Maxx HD its like night and day. While I did like the Inc this phone blows it out of the water in pretty much every department, and seeing as this is my first Moto phone I am very impressed with the quality. As everyone's saying once JB comes and perhaps we get a few good devs supporting this new Razr line (read: roms and mods lol), this phone will be a BEAST
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I also went from gnex to HD Maxx. Got it first weekend of release.
I love it. It's really in a different class in terms of build quality, design, and audio. It's got the best speakerphone that I've ever heard in a cell. The battery of course is great and with our extended post-Sandy outage it's been very useful.
I had the giant extended battery on the gnex and the HD Max gets longer life.
Sure it's a drag with no JB at launch, but the leak is already out and hopefully the dev community will latch on to the phone. The HD is a serious device with a pro-quality feel to it. I haven't looked back.
John

If you have to buy off contract check out the HD dev edition.. It is unlockable just like the Gnex. I get over a days worth of battery with moderate use.

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If you have to buy off contract check out the HD dev edition.. It is unlockable just like the Gnex. I get over a days worth of battery with moderate use.
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I thought about that but I would love to just have so much battery I don't know what to do with it. I am kind of tired of turning all this stuff off in regards to saving battery. I am kind of done with ROMS, I hate flashing over and over, I just like to keep my set up. And with ICS and JB, Android is at a pretty sweet spot with Google Now being the one thing that is missing from the Razr HD a the moment. But with a leak or officially soon that will be fixed. I am getting bored with the hardware now, and I think from what I have read, the radios and call quality might be better than the Gnex. I had a Bionic for a short time and liked it.

There is a general consensus on the build quality and radios of the Moto phones... hard to beat.
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I am in the exact same boat. Using a Verizon Gnex with unlimited data plan, means I have to buy at full retail to keep it. I was set to to switch to TMO when the Nexus 4 was announced, but I found its tiny storage and no LTE underwhelming. And the Gnex/JB battery life is atrocious. ~5hrs with heavy use and moderate signal strength. And thats with the ext battery.
The HD Maxx is about the only Vzw phone I can consider though.
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this is the perfect pick for you, unbeatable battery life, even on the RazrHD, the MaxxHD is in its own league. Plus awesome build, and aosp inspired moto ui

check this out, from the other day... my Gnex couldn't touch it, so glad I switched
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Bateluer said:
I am in the exact same boat. Using a Verizon Gnex with unlimited data plan, means I have to buy at full retail to keep it. I was set to to switch to TMO when the Nexus 4 was announced, but I found its tiny storage and no LTE underwhelming. And the Gnex/JB battery life is atrocious. ~5hrs with heavy use and moderate signal strength. And thats with the ext battery.
The HD Maxx is about the only Vzw phone I can consider though.
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5 hours with extended battery!?!? that is insane

I came from a vzw gnex. Battery life was just too horrible for me to mess with anymore. My razr maxx hd is averaging 1 day 17 hours with 4.5 hrs on screen time. My gnex never got 2hrs on screen time. For these reasons im glad i switched.
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PA212 said:
5 hours with extended battery!?!? that is insane
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OEM extended battery was only 2100mah. :-/ Hardly worthy of the name.
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Also with Team Maxx HD
I have the Maxx HD too. Signed a two year contract to get it. But all of you guys boasting about the battery, i'll need some advice. I havent really noticed the rave. i mean it's better than my epic but not by a lot. I heard after the first few charges of any new battery it reaches it's potential..Could that be it??? Also ive been using it every day for pretty much of the day but no heavy use...could that be it as well??
Last question is i wanted to put the JB leak but was afraid since it's not official from Verizon i could start seeing battery drainage..Has anyone else considered putting the JB leak on their phone?

I've had the Verizon g nex, SGSIII, Rezound, dinc 2, Droid X (lol) and the iPhone 4s. Now I have the Maxx HD and this phone smokes all of them IMO. My wife and daughter both have the SGSIII and my son has the Razr Maxx. I've done side by side with all of them and the Maxx HD wins in every department.
Some of you may say "well of course chef is gonna say this he owns a Maxx HD now!". I've had em all (except the Note 2 ) and this phone is my personal favorite.
The Note 2 is around the corner too. So maybe wait a couple weeks and play with the Maxx HD and note 2 and see which you like better if you're going to pay off contract pricing. I'm hearing reports that the Note 2 has great battery life also.
Hope that info helps ya.
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The Max HD is hands down my favorite android device. Here is how I came upon owning one.
First and foremost, I am an att customer. I have been on my family plan for years and I am always trying out new phones,whether they are att released phones or internationally released phones. I like apple's products and currently own an iPhone 5 and an iPad. I also really like a lot of thibgs about android devices and feel they are coming closer and closer to the polish that ios carries. I most recently tested out an international note 2 (good device).
For work my company uses Verizon and I have a company provided blackberry to handle my work emails and calls etc.
Anyway I live in the suburbs of new jersey, outside of art lte coverage, so lte has never really been an important feature for me. Sure I could hop on it when I work in new York city but for the most part I'm on hspa+
When hurricane sandy hit, we lost power and basically all att service. Our phones would not call out,receive calls, send texts,emails, NOTHING. on the other hand, my Verizon blackberry was our window to the world phone call wise- at this time the blackberry screen decided to **** the bed.
Then our devices (my current iPhone 5) began dying. All and all the situation was extremely frustrating. Having no cell or data service at a time where there is nothing else to do but sit in the dark and drink was a huge bummer.
This week, I caught up with one of our office administrators to discuss how we were going to replace my broken blackberry. During our discussion she brought up how it is an option to buy your own phone, and use it as one business/personal device since our service is unlimited (and it was definitely annoying to have to carry around two phones at all times)
So here I am. I walked into Verizon yesterday and purchased the Max HD. I have unlimited late everywhere I have gone so far (I have yet to see the 3g symbol). I am pulling down speeds averaging around 18mbps, and have yet to even switch wifi on. The phone is plenty snappy for everyday usage and then some. Call quality and reception are phenominal thanks to motos awesome radios
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Last night I downloaded an episode of a show I had missed via torrents. That is simply stuff you just can't do in iOS.
Tldr :
I love this phone. Build quality and performance as well as practicality and use ability as a phone is second to none.
The note 2 does have a big battery,but then again I was using the GSM international version. I haven't paid attention to any reviews of the us lte version. The quad core does run some higher end games better than the Max, but that is nit important to me. I don't have the time or the energy to play games other than casual stuff like scramble, doodle jump and rayman jungle run - all of which run fine on the Max. If you're a power user this probably is your better bet. I however am a casual user, that uses their phone heavily. This device is perfect for that. Also, motos skin is much nicer than touchwiz. The build quality is also much nicer.
Max HD, best phone you could get, and paired with my iPad for tablet use, graphically intensive games and couch use, it is the best of both worlds. I'm siked on my current setup.
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I am currently a Verizon GNex User. However after a rash of replacements I am now approved for a "Replacement Device" after comparing all the features of the Gnex I am pushing for a Maxx HD as it offers the battery life and storage capacity I am looking for plus the option for a micro SD has me excited. I have been using JB for a while so to downgrade back down to ICS will be a challenge however I know of the JB Leak and as long as it's Stock and preforms I am going to be very happy I believe. I am currently awaiting the call back from VZW Tech Support to give me the recommended replacement options. It should be noted I bought the extended life battery and Otterbox. I will be happy to toss the otterbox.
I will update when I "hopefully" get the good news.
Update ** -- They offered a Original RAZR - I indicated that I use NFC and have 32GB of storage and have an extended batter with a 4.7 inch screen. I paid 400.00 with a 2 year at launch so I would not accept anything less then a RAZR HD 16GB.
2nd Update ** -- They have now offered me a Galaxy S3 with Extended Life Battery. The Razr HD is not on the table because it is a "Iconic" premotional device.But at least I will get a great replacement with data now.

DeadPhoenix said:
I am currently a Verizon GNex User. However after a rash of replacements I am now approved for a "Replacement Device" after comparing all the features of the Gnex I am pushing for a Maxx HD as it offers the battery life and storage capacity I am looking for plus the option for a micro SD has me excited. I have been using JB for a while so to downgrade back down to ICS will be a challenge however I know of the JB Leak and as long as it's Stock and preforms I am going to be very happy I believe. I am currently awaiting the call back from VZW Tech Support to give me the recommended replacement options. It should be noted I bought the extended life battery and Otterbox. I will be happy to toss the otterbox.
I will update when I "hopefully" get the good news.
Update ** -- They offered a Original RAZR - I indicated that I use NFC and have 32GB of storage and have an extended batter with a 4.7 inch screen. I paid 400.00 with a 2 year at launch so I would not accept anything less then a RAZR HD 16GB.
2nd Update ** -- They have now offered me a Galaxy S3 with Extended Life Battery. The Razr HD is not on the table because it is a "Iconic" premotional device.But at least I will get a great replacement with data now.
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Iconic promotional device? Or do they just have a bunch if gs3 refurbs laying around? Are they giving you a new phone?
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Disappointed With Razr HD

Well my friend yesterday received his razr Hd and I was really excited to see what that device has to offer.
I went to my friend's house, used it and then found out that it is the same product as Atrix Hd except that this phone just has a bigger battery and nothing else.
It was a let off for me, I compared it to my razr I and believe me Razr I smoked this phone .
If you don't believe me then walk into a store and compare it head to head against the razr I

well, neither of those are on Verizon, so its a mute point for 95% of this board

I honestly dont believe you. Ive messed with the original razr and this phone beats it in every aspect. Way faster in my opinion and better battery life. I really dont have a single complaint with this phone and im a pretty heavy user.
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clouse2013 said:
I honestly dont believe you. Ive messed with the original razr and this phone beats it in every aspect. Way faster in my opinion and better battery life. I really dont have a single complaint with this phone and im a pretty heavy user.
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agreed. I loged about 36 hours of mixed usage over thel last week on a single charge. Angry Birds Star Wars, NFL Red Zone etc. I'm a heavy user and i have enjoyed it thoroughly.

Op is just mad he's stuck with an OG Razr and his friend has a Maxx HD. Lmao. Jealousy is the worst emotion.
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chefdave12118 said:
Op is just mad he's stuck with an OG Razr and his friend has a Maxx HD. Lmao. Jealousy is the worst emotion.
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That's my sentiments too.....LOL

Xdais Chutiya said:
my friend yesterday received his razr Hd and I was really excited to see what that device has to offer.
I went to my friend's house, used it and then found out that it is the same product as Atrix Hd except that this phone just has a bigger battery and nothing else.
It was a let off for me, I compared it to my razr I and believe me Razr I smoked this phone .
If you don't believe me then walk into a store and compare it head to head against the razr I
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What an absolute ridiculous fail of a post.
The RAZR HD has the following advantages over the Atrix HD:
Larger screen
Amoled screen
Bigger battery
NFC
Aluminum unibody frame
Kevlar back
Better camera
Same phone right? Also your comparison of the ancient cpu in the original razr vs the s4 in the new razr is almost equally as laughable. Please don't post in this thread again until you actually own a razr Hd. And even then I don't know...

He was talking about the RAZR I not the original RAZR. The RAZR I is an Intel Medfield GSM version of the RAZR M. Not available in the US I don't think.
Not sure why they (XDA) insist on combining forums for different (CDMA/GSM) versions of phones but that's why we have confusion like this...
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clouse2013 said:
I honestly dont believe you. Ive messed with the original razr and this phone beats it in every aspect. Way faster in my opinion and better battery life. I really dont have a single complaint with this phone and im a pretty heavy user.
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Amen, I have used the sh!t out of this phone already and it's a beast. Hasn't failed me yet in what I'd consider extremely heavy use (so heavy I have used up near 70GB of data this month doing many different things putting it to what I would consider for me the ultimate test... streaming, downloading, wireless tethering, gaming, apps, music, movies - praise the lord for unlimited data). Not to mention the build, battery life, call quality, volumes, usb flash drive hookup, HDMI cable hook up, and radios giving excellent 4G signal coverage.
People who trash this phone either 1) don't know what they're talking about, or 2) just aren't a fan of it from the start and go into it with a biased opinion.

LoL What?!
The "I" is essentially a RAZR M with the ARM processor swapped for an intel atom. Intel still has a long ways to go to run as efficiently as the arm architecture.
That being said: Smaller battery, smaller screen, lower rez and PPI, less memory, many apps not compatible from google play. How in any way, shape, or form can you say the I "smokes" the RAZR HD? Sounds more like jealousy that you can't get the HD or HD MAXX locally because noone in their right mind that knows absolutely anything about phones would ever compare these. You may as well be a iPhone fanatic saying it's far superior due to the "experience".

Zodwraith said:
LoL What?!
The "I" is essentially a RAZR M with the ARM processor swapped for an intel atom. Intel still has a long ways to go to run as efficiently as the arm architecture.
That being said: Smaller battery, smaller screen, lower rez and PPI, less memory, many apps not compatible from google play. How in any way, shape, or form can you say the I "smokes" the RAZR HD? Sounds more like jealousy that you can't get the HD or HD MAXX locally because noone in their right mind that knows absolutely anything about phones would ever compare these. You may as well be a iPhone fanatic saying it's far superior due to the "experience".
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But apple fanboys like the "bend over and take it from Apple" experience, why else would they keep going back?

I too Have DROID Razr Hd nd Atrix Hd And Razr I is Faster Than RHD OR AHD Coz of Intel Processor But in terms of Display RHD AND AHD Beats RAZR i
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Zodwraith said:
LoL What?!
The "I" is essentially a RAZR M with the ARM processor swapped for an intel atom. Intel still has a long ways to go to run as efficiently as the arm architecture.
That being said: Smaller battery, smaller screen, lower rez and PPI, less memory, many apps not compatible from google play. How in any way, shape, or form can you say the I "smokes" the RAZR HD? Sounds more like jealousy that you can't get the HD or HD MAXX locally because noone in their right mind that knows absolutely anything about phones would ever compare these. You may as well be a iPhone fanatic saying it's far superior due to the "experience".
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The RAZR i (which I own) has been shown to have better battery than the RAZR M by most reviewers. The Intel CPU is at least as fast though not quite as good for 3D gaming. I have yet to find an app that doesn't work, though I have only tried about 50 or so. Just to give you an idea, I regularly get 50 hours of battery life with 4 hours screen time. The form factor of the i is simply astonishing, it is so small for the size of screen, but I have not held an HD so cannot compare.
The screen on the HD is obviously going to be significantly better. I wonder if the camera is better too - not sure if it can be worse! I really want an HD, mainly for the screen, but giving up the i will be tough. Best phone I have personally used.

People y u no read everything clearly and properly?
I was comparing this Razr HD to My Razr I Not the old Razr .
And when u say it has this advantage and that advantage over the Atrix Hd, i know what u r trying to say, The razr Hd is better in terms of display, camera and battery but the performance of both these phones are same in terms of cpu and gpu.
On the other hand compare the razr Hd to the razr I , razr hd wins only display against the razr I, otherwise razr I is currently the fastest motorola.

chefdave12118 said:
Op is just mad he's stuck with an OG Razr and his friend has a Maxx HD. Lmao. Jealousy is the worst emotion.
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I believe that you can't read that I have a razr I not the old razr

Xdais Chutiya said:
People y u no read everything clearly and properly?
I was comparing this Razr HD to My Razr I Not the old Razr .
And when u say it has this advantage and that advantage over the Atrix Hd, i know what u r trying to say, The razr Hd is better in terms of display, camera and battery but the performance of both these phones are same in terms of cpu and gpu.
On the other hand compare the razr Hd to the razr I , razr hd wins only display against the razr I, otherwise razr I is currently the fastest motorola.
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The only place the atom processor shines is browser navigation. If you only opened a browser window and compared the two the atom will feel snappy. Also your coverage is going to make a difference.
The 2ghz means nothing as 1. That's the max speed and Intel won't say where the CPU usually sits. 2. Clock for clock arm CPUs are well ahead of x86 architecture.
The big drawback is compatibility. Many play store apps simply won't run on an atom processor. Devs are working on this but I'd bet they're focusing on HD versions of apps first to take advantage of the influx of HD tablets before the trickle of atom powered devices.
Personally i like Intel but in the mobile arena it's been a sputtering start. I like the form of the M and I but the screens are just too ancient tech.
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Xdais Chutiya said:
Well my friend yesterday received his razr Hd and I was really excited to see what that device has to offer.
I went to my friend's house, used it and then found out that it is the same product as Atrix Hd except that this phone just has a bigger battery and nothing else.
It was a let off for me, I compared it to my razr I and believe me Razr I smoked this phone .
If you don't believe me then walk into a store and compare it head to head against the razr I
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LMAO....yeah right

I upgraded from the RAZR Maxx to the Maxx HD and the HD is much faster than my RAZR.

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I upgraded from the RAZR Maxx to the Maxx HD and the HD is much faster than my RAZR.
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we are not talking about the old razr

Xdais Chutiya said:
we are not talking about the old razr
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I don't care what RAZR you're talking about. The HD smokes all of them hands down. What are we talking about here? Its not even close.
Edit. Happy Thanksgiving
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Trading htc dna for razr hd maxx

Hello,
I currently own an HTC DNA and I have a buddy that wants to trade me his maxx. I was wondering if it was worth it? the reason why I am posting this here is because I want to know the ups and down about this phone.
I know that the DNA has better specs but software sucks and battery is average. I would love to have a huge battery like the Maxx but does the phone lag at all? I know that it only has 1 gig of ram but does it bog down the phone a lot?
I am not starting a flame war, I just need honest opinions from Maxx owners.
Thanks.

Its an awesome phone, I love my maxx hd
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It's super smoooooth and def an upgrade from the OG Maxx....I havent tried the DNA yet but I cant stand having crap battery life and spending half my day near the wall socket
I've messed around with it at Verizon but just bought one off of Ebay....ill post more when i have more time to play around with it

Well that's good to know....so the phone is smooth and doesn't bog down because of the ram?
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The HD maxx is amazing. It's a near perfect phone. I would definitely recommend it. I use the nova prime launcher and it is extremely fast and buttery smooth and I get around a day of battery with heavy use.
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I have an regular HD. But to give you some perspective. My average usage battery cycle is 22 hours. Before I need to reach for a charger. If you play games it goes down to about 6 hours of gaming. From my experience.
The stock launcher has some minute lag. I have Nova and its buttery smooth. Overall its a fast phone, and sense bogs down the DNA's CPU. But that being said this phone does have those small derpy moments, but to be honest the battery life is more important than screen or performance, for me at least. Especially since the lag is far and few between.
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Xiaoxion said:
I have an regular HD. But to give you some perspective. My average usage battery cycle is 22 hours. Before I need to reach for a charger. If you play games it goes down to about 6 hours of gaming. From my experience.
The stock launcher has some minute lag. I have Nova and its buttery smooth. Overall its a fast phone, and sense bogs down the DNA's CPU. But that being said this phone does have those small derpy moments, but to be honest the battery life is more important than screen or performance, for me at least. Especially since the lag is far and few between.
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Again, Thanks for the information.
I might do the trade but still dropping down to a dual core and 1 Gig of ram is a pain! I barely game soo that wont be a problem.

Itzvik said:
Again, Thanks for the information.
I might do the trade but still dropping down to a dual core and 1 Gig of ram is a pain! I barely game soo that wont be a problem.
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Don't forget its a Snapdragon 1.5GHz dual core, it does beat some quad cores out there. I have the razr HD, and this phone has never lagged on me yet. I do play games on my phone a lot. I do, because even like that, my phone lasts the whole day! 1gb ram is still a lot, I find it hard to use the whole gig at a time.
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You just have to ask yourself what features are most important to you, then decide what phone best met your needs. If I was in your position, I'd make the trade in a heartbeat.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2

The kevlar and solid build quality alone was enough for me to ditch my Nexus 4 for the Razr HD.
I am not sure what camera is in the MAXX version, but this is probably the only let down - I would say the HTC is much better than the Moto.
I also use an aftermarket Jellybean 4.1 launcher instead of the stock Moto one, and it makes the phone buttery smooth. I get about 2 days of battery even on the HD with moderate use.

Yeah the HTC has a snapdragon s4 pro which is better than the moto one.
I like the answers here.
Thanks guys.
Sent from my HTC DROID DNA.

Sounds like your larger concerns are the RAM and processor. If that's the case, stick with the DNA. I remember playing with it in the store, the screen was the best I had seen. I went with the Maxx HD because my biggest complaint has always been battery life, and because of the larger memory and SD card slot. The quad core, RAM, and camera weren't as important to me, especially since I upgrade about every year (by paying Ebay prices when I don't have an upgrade available). I figure this phone will be great for me for at least the next year.

I recently had the choice to buy a Razr HD (not Maxx) or the DNA. I have the HD.
I don't care how fast the processor is. The non-removable storage is a deal killer for me.
That and coming from a Razr Maxx, the HD style had me hooked.
I'm lasting easily one full day away from the charger.
Today I'm at 82% after 7 hours off the charger. My regular Maxx was nowhere near this good.

Well I mean the ram and processor are not my biggest concern. The thing is that I am one of those people that always needs the best Lol and I am talking about hardware not functionality. The RAZR will be more useful to me. I like the DNA because it is slim and I love the display but on the other hand sense sucks.
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Itzvik said:
Well I mean the ram and processor are not my biggest concern. The thing is that I am one of those people that always needs the best Lol and I am talking about hardware not functionality. The RAZR will be more useful to me. I like the DNA because it is slim and I love the display but on the other hand sense sucks.
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no point having the best in this case if u can't fully utilize it. Although less ram and smaller screen, it sounds like the RAZR specs will still far exceed what u need it for, probably surfing, texting, social media, phone calls. And its battery will let u do that much longer than the DNA.
if u played games or such i would say different, but ultimately the choice is yours of course

Itzvik said:
Well I mean the ram and processor are not my biggest concern. The thing is that I am one of those people that always needs the best Lol and I am talking about hardware not functionality. The RAZR will be more useful to me. I like the DNA because it is slim and I love the display but on the other hand sense sucks.
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The HD is probably the best smart phone I've had to date, solid, fast, reliable, good looks etc. i used to always try and have the"best" phone too...nowadays that's just fighting a losing battle. Get what you like and when time comes get something better, but there will always be something better right around the corner.
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Thanks for the information! I might go a hard and do the trade then.
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Itzvik said:
Again, Thanks for the information.
I might do the trade but still dropping down to a dual core and 1 Gig of ram is a pain! I barely game soo that wont be a problem.
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If you don't game you more than likely wouldn't really be able to tell that much of a difference.

Looking to upgrade to Droid Turbo

Hello all, currently im running the Droid Razr MAXX (2012), its starting to show its age and i have been due for a upgrade for awhile now, i was originally looking at the Note 4 but the Droid Tubro has gained my attention. The Droid Razr MAXX has been the only smartphone i have owned so im not sure how much i would enjoy touchwiz. With my limited experince using the liquid smooth rom on my razr maxx and using my nexus 7 i believe that stock android is something that i more prefer, i assume that the droid turbo is closer to that aspect.
I want opinions from people, preferablly that have owned/have experince with the Razr MAXX or its successor (Droid Maxx) on wether or not the 64GB Droid Turbo is a good pickup for 250$ Contract price.

If you prefer a stock experience, don't need a 6 inch screen and don't mind VZWs handprint, then you should be quite happy. It's a really nice phone and the 64 gig version looks and feels sweet.

SmileAsTheyDie said:
Hello all, currently im running the Droid Razr MAXX (2012), its starting to show its age and i have been due for a upgrade for awhile now, i was originally looking at the Note 4 but the Droid Tubro has gained my attention. The Droid Razr MAXX has been the only smartphone i have owned so im not sure how much i would enjoy touchwiz. With my limited experince using the liquid smooth rom on my razr maxx and using my nexus 7 i believe that stock android is something that i more prefer, i assume that the droid turbo is closer to that aspect.
I want opinions from people, preferablly that have owned/have experince with the Razr MAXX or its successor (Droid Maxx) on wether or not the 64GB Droid Turbo is a good pickup for 250$ Contract price.
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Do you use Smart Actions? If so, and you like it, you will be frustrated with Assist. Like really frustrated. Also, no notification light on the Turbo if that's important to you. The speaker is a step down from the Razr as well. Other than that the Turbo will feel like a big upgrade. The screen is beautiful and the phone runs very fast. Some have commented on the screens lack of brightness. It may be less bright than other phones on the market but I held it side by side with my Razr Maxx HD (both on max setting) and the Turbo was brighter. The battery on the Turbo isn't what I hoped but it certainly lasts longer than the 2 year old battery in my Maxx HD and it will get you through a day of heavy use no problem. Can't speak to Touch Wiz and the other Note 4 features as I haven't used one. Hope that helps.

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Do you use Smart Actions? If so, and you like it, you will be frustrated with Assist. Like really frustrated. Also, no notification light on the Turbo if that's important to you. The speaker is a step down from the Razr as well. Other than that the Turbo will feel like a big upgrade. The screen is beautiful and the phone runs very fast. Some have commented on the screens lack of brightness. It may be less bright than other phones on the market but I held it side by side with my Razr Maxx HD (both on max setting) and the Turbo was brighter. The battery on the Turbo isn't what I hoped but it certainly lasts longer than the 2 year old battery in my Maxx HD and it will get you through a day of heavy use no problem. Can't speak to Touch Wiz and the other Note 4 features as I haven't used one. Hope that helps.
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Well its been awhile since i used smart action as i have not been on the stock rom for over a year now. When i was on the stock rom all i used it for was to setup a profile to turn off all sound during school hours. With the rom im currently using their is a "profile" system that allows me to do that without the need for a standalone app like smartactions.

This phone is super awesome! I never ever liked Samsung touchwiz. So much ram is uses and is complicated too! My turbo makes me to not look back at my previous razr maxx and atrix hd (which was the first chassis design for the razer) and I always stock android for it was always simple even though I use nova launcher which is the same really. The turbo is worth to get for the screen is super clear, battery lasts all day no matter how hardcore you use it, camera is acceptable for its 20.7 mp, and the ballistic nylon back is so amazing! Only drawback I dislike is in calls that the speaker is not so loud compared to other phones and some times having to put it on speakerphone to hear. The turbo is worth to get!

I've had both the droid RAZR MAXX and the droid MAXX.
RAZR MAXX to droid maxx is a big upgrade in terms of screen size/quality, speed and features (active notifications, always listening). Droid MAXX to turbo is a more incremental upgrade.
Note that the turbo does not do simultaneous voice and data so that may be a deal breaker. This, to me, gives the old droid MAXX a big leg up.
Either the droid MAXX or the turbo are both a huge step up from the RAZR MAXX.
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adrialk said:
I've had both the droid RAZR MAXX and the droid MAXX.
RAZR MAXX to droid maxx is a big upgrade in terms of screen size/quality, speed and features (active notifications, always listening). Droid MAXX to turbo is a more incremental upgrade.
Note that the turbo does not do simultaneous voice and data so that may be a deal breaker. This, to me, gives the old droid MAXX a big leg up.
Either the droid MAXX or the turbo are both a huge step up from the RAZR MAXX.
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From what i read the simultaneous voice and data thing is going to be patched before the end of the year

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From what i read the simultaneous voice and data thing is going to be patched before the end of the year
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They are going to enable VoLTE ... Which will enable it when you are connected to LTE, same as it is right now for last years phones.
The difference is that right now, with a phone with dual radios (XT1080M, moto x 2013) if you leave an LTE area while doing both, you loose data (no big deal usually). With the new breed of phones (turbo, moto x 2014) with VoLTE and one radio, if you loose LTE while talking - you drop the call.
Net result? The new generation of phones will have more dropped calls, when using VoLTE.
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From what I've read on here, the lack of voice+data is a limitation on Verizon's network. Some have taken the Droid Turbo to AT&T where voice+data works, so the phone has the capability, just not on Verizon.
I'm thinking of going from an AT&T Galaxy S3 to the Droid Turbo. I currently have Straight Talk service. I would imagine, since the Turbo's unlocked, that I can just pop my Straight Talk SIM into the Turbo and it should work, with a few APN adjustments.