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Leo or Nokia N900

I'm anxious to know what you all think about the HTC Leo and the Nokia N900. Which of these two devices is a suitable repacement for our beloved Touch HD??
regards, Kuzibri

Leo........

ArtieQ said:
Leo........
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could you explain why?

kuzibri said:
could you explain why?
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I hate Nokia and love HTC?

ArtieQ said:
I hate Nokia and love HTC?
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not really an objective answer. I love HTC too, but the N900 isn't that bad. Why do you hate Nokia?

kuzibri said:
not really an objective answer. I love HTC too, but the N900 isn't that bad. Why do you hate Nokia?
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I hate Nokia because of Symbian OS.

ArtieQ said:
I hate Nokia because of Symbian OS.
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N900 is not Symbian but Maemo (Linux)

i am actualy considering the N900 , i love HTC as a company ,
but i am very dissapointed from the HTC speed .
and because of that , the Leo is a device with strong processor , and a very bad OS.
if he had the N900 OS , or android , that was nice .
anyway , N900 for me !
and someone should tell HTC to stop sell a good device with bad OS !

Leo looks as though it could be a great device, but Windows Mobile 6.5 is just really starting to show its age and bulkiness(slow even on a Snapdragon). HTC also gimped it by giving it a 65k screen - what's the point of having such a large screen if everything looks like crap on it?
I love my Touch HD, but compared to my friend's 3GS it doesn't have many strong points(and compared to the n900 it loses on all accounts). I'd still wait for more announcement concerning the Xperia X3 before making my final choice.

N900 is interesting but the "Landscape Only" is ugly... Linux OS makes it like PC and this is good but CPU/RAM/Battery moving it?
I have Touch HD and I don't think to buy Leo because no real improvements but not N900 too
I'm waiting for something in future
D'rath

I'm with you D'rath on this one as Archos just announced their 4.3 Inch Phone Tablet outfitted with a 1Ghz Hummingbird and android. February 2010 is going to be an interesting month for sure!

I'l be waiting for Tegra/WinMo 7 before i change my HD

when i saw the leo video review i decided to keep my hd leo camera still sucks only improvement is the processor but in the review it is not also so fast don't differ allot the only issue with hd is that it will not get wm6.5 officially when talking about memo5 in nokia n900 it has not allot of applications and not good support for games and applications

Toss3 said:
...Archos just announced their 4.3 Inch Phone Tablet outfitted with a 1Ghz Hummingbird and android.
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Has it actually been announced or is it just more rumours?
If it's the former, do you have a link?

Toss3 said:
HTC also gimped it by giving it a 65k screen - what's the point of having such a large screen if everything looks like crap on it?
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It was probably gimped because WM 6.5 only supports 65k colors... still.
The appeal of getting a enormous screen and a much faster processor in Leo is tempting. N900 is interesting, but being a completely new OS think it's best to wait and see. The X3 / SE Rachel also looks tasty, but again too few details to make it a sure-buy.
If nuerom can get overclocking working stablely on the MSM 720x devices I think I'll stay on HD for until end of next year at least

I got for the Leo, I will buy it when it hit the streets.
N900 is bulky compared to leo (because the hardward qwerty keyboard), Leo seems to be faster and more polished in the picture viewer and video playback. Not to mention the multitouch of Leo, wich can become a standard for WM7 and future high end devices.
So for leo:
+Multitouch
+4.3" screen
+I like touchflo
+I love TouchFlo3d
-Dont like WM 6.5 (perhaps with some tweking start menu can be set to work like 6.1,need to read further about this)
...and for Nokia:
+hardware qwerty
-Not symbian (how many aplicacions exist for that varely unused "new" os?)
-Not like the interface

I don't think I would spend that much money on a Htc Leo, and only get a litle faster, a bigger screen and multi touch. I would rather keep my HD, which can do almost anything that Leo can.
If i buy a new phone it has to be much better than the HD, the HD can do almost anything (with a leo rom, its even much better)
The N900 looks like a nice phone. A qwerty keyboard is nice, and I like on the first sight the new Linux os. But I will wait for a while till I get a new device.

n900 for me - I've had guts-full of winmo, and android just doesnt do it for me (dont really like the interface or the architecture tbh).
And btw to the people who say they 'love' these companies because of x, y or z - get real lol. the only time I can imagine someone loving a company is if they either work for that company and they are being paid to say it or they have developed some twisted form of Stockholm syndrome around their employer... if you don't fit into either of these categories, you are a fanboi idiot both are capitalist scumbag companies nearly as bad as apple they cant help it, its just how the world works.
as for the actual devices the n900 interests me greatly, being the smallest posix compliant device ever (afaik?). to 'tarded joe public that probably doesnt mean anything, but to a coder/geek its fantastic!
andriod imo is hacky and not very mmmm.. viable(?) for a range of application areas (e.g. video players?) - is it true that all the apps for android have to be written in java? for real? why?
to me, the n900 looks to be suffering from early run hw problems - these im told should be fixed in the 2nd and 3rd runs. as for the software, anything that is currently not working im very sure will be working very soon - simply due to the community around the device and the openness of the platform - this alone sets the n900 apart from everything else - including android (which although linux based, is very different) - a great example of this fact is the fmradio app (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/fmradio/).
if i've offended you with my opinion in this post, you may consider yourself offended - i don't care!
so, come January, ill be picking up an n900 its the only path of progression for me. btw, if im wrong on anything here please correct me.
my 2p (;
fusi

I know people complain about HTC all the time (myself included) but they do produce nice phones. My main concern is that they create new phones all the time with no real improvement between them. I think you'll find the next release (or 2-3 after) will be the device worth moving to from the HD.
Also, I'm addicted like many other to flashing (phones ), customizing and tweaking my HD as well as finding new fixes, helping others and constantly being online at XDA. If I was to get the N900 I would lose all this.....................

i'm moving at the moment from the touch pro 2 to n900. why? because as someone posted above im sick of sloweliness of my device (altough latest AthineOS was excellent )
im also a flashing n customizing addict, and on every single device from htc ive had, after installing mod's the OS was simply slowing down.. even changing the wallpaper was a pain in the a**(especially in Manila- u know what i mean ).
im not saying that htc is crap or something, but n900 seems to better fit my needs now.
Getting it in couple days n we'll se was it worth going back to nokia ( god save me from that filthy n sh*tty Symbian) or not.
Surely i'll be missing htc in some way

XDANDROID - Is there hope to see it workin' on the i8000?

Hi there
I've seen the works from XDA on getting android working on some HTC...
and i have too say... Lucky bastards!!
Is there hope to see it working on Omnia i8000... and next on the B7610 ?
Maybe some changes in the drivers could do the job

also looking for android to work on i8000

I guess that it's a huge new project, 'cause Omnia II have a totally different processor (Samsung S3C6410) and all other devices XDANDROID supports have Qualcomm MSM chips.

real_life said:
Hi there
I've seen the works from XDA on getting android working on some HTC...
and i have too say... Lucky bastards!!
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No offence, but if you really like the ...droid so much, why not get a Samsung galaxy instead of the i8000?
I can appreciate, stictly out of experimental interest, why someone would like to run a MacOS on top of Windows. But if somone really likes the Mac so much, why not simply go and get a Mac instead?
Oh well, but then again, it takes all kinds. Some people think it's smart to run win95 on WM....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=626376
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hkwildboy said:
real_life said:
Hi there
I've seen the works from XDA on getting android working on some HTC...
and i have too say... Lucky bastards!!
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No offence, but if you really like the ...droid so much, why not get a Samsung galaxy instead of the i8000?
I can appreciate, stictly out of experimental interest, why someone would like to run a MacOS on top of Windows. But if somone really likes the Mac so much, why not simply go and get a Mac instead?
Oh well, but then again, it takes all kinds. Some people think it's smart to run win95 on WM....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=626376
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First of all, i don't own a i8000 but a b7610...
If i could afford a different gadget, i would have an android, an iphone, even a sciphone... but i can't... too bad for me, right
I got the b7610 because it was (and it still is) the most suited for me...
If i can run linux and windows on a single pc, it's the best of both worlds...
The same for windows mobile and android, win 95, whatever OS...
More diversity, more utility, more i can get from my expensive hardware
It has been proved that it can run on the original omnia, and on some HTC's...
So i only ask if is too difficult to port it to omnia II (and Omnia Pro)
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I wanna try Android on O2... the reason is that the speed is said to be much better than WM. Yet, I'd to keep my WM OS on when I play games coz I still like my WM games.

Maybe there is a little chance for Android for i8000
Look at this link. This device seems to have hardware (especially CPU) similar to our Omnias

Shiryu said:
Maybe there is a little chance for Android for i8000
Look at this link. This device seems to have hardware (especially CPU) similar to our Omnias
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Yeah, it seems to be most of the some hardware, there's a change to see it working.

Shiryu said:
Maybe there is a little chance for Android for i8000
Look at this link. This device seems to have hardware (especially CPU) similar to our Omnias
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good news
It looks almost the same like a i8000.
I hope samsung isn't going to put a lot of there junk software in this device so we can pick the rom of this device and put it on our device

also looking for android on samsung b7610. every startup.txt fails on loading the kernel...

i just found a tutorial how to compile a kernel. the tutorial is for i900 but may work by loading other cpu driver or whatever
http://andromnia.net/wiki/docs/howto_build_linux_kernel

well over @ modaca, i today dl'ed almar's android,for i800,
and it worked, it booted up after a few tries, but nothing is functional...
no radio, no wifi, no Bt, etc.
and no real performance either
i think we'll never get android working as good on Xperia x1 or touch pro2..

Loading different OS into Omnia II

Hi All,
I'd like to know if it is possible or not to load a different OS ROM into Samsung Omnia II i8000 ? eg. Android 2.2 ROM ? is it possible or vice versa, loading Windows Mobile 6.5.3 Pro into Samsung Galaxy S.
Thanks.

I was thinking same thing!
I'm ready to buy a Galaxy S and I was wondering if can be converted to WM 6.5.x as the hardware is better than my actual Omnia II.

momyc said:
I was thinking same thing!
I'm ready to buy a Galaxy S and I was wondering if can be converted to WM 6.5.x as the hardware is better than my actual Omnia II.
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exactly yes, that is what I was thinking to do
i wonder if it is possible here.

Must be possible, but nobody have made it. Windows Mobile 6.5 is outdated, i would like android at least.

pitymonkey said:
Must be possible, but nobody have made it. Windows Mobile 6.5 is outdated, i would like android at least.
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yes, so do I man, I wish someone can share the instruction here or at least their experience in loading Android OS in Samsung Omnia II i8000 mobile ?

Guys there isnt a real forum here for android on omnia II. But we have a great deal of the hardware working on it. Now the phone function isnt that long away. Look at:
bbbq1
You can see it is quite speedy. It has a 3x times higher filebenchmark than the galaxy s.
There will be a functional beta soon.
Because I dont have a topic here, you can follow the work on twitter:
INB2ENSECURITY
Greetings Almar

almar2 said:
Guys there isnt a real forum here for android on omnia II. But we have a great deal of the hardware working on it. Now the phone function isnt that long away. Look at:
bbbq1
You can see it is quite speedy. It has a 3x times higher filebenchmark than the galaxy s.
There will be a functional beta soon.
Because I dont have a topic here, you can follow the work on twitter:
INB2ENSECURITY
Greetings Almar
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ah...
that sounds promising
I'm keen to load Android in my current Omnia II once there is stable release.
thanks for letting me know Sir.
Cheers,
Albert

momyc said:
I was thinking same thing!
I'm ready to buy a Galaxy S and I was wondering if can be converted to WM 6.5.x as the hardware is better than my actual Omnia II.
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I have ordered a Galaxy S (White) but intend to keep my Omnia II for other things, such as GPS/Navigation unless the Galaxy S proves itself a worthy contender with FroYo 2.2
As for Android on Omnia II, check this link out http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000-omnia-ii-gsm-rom-discussion/298997/android-on-omnia-2-17-10-2010-see-first-post/
Sad to see the Topic is closed now....

How to load different OS
I'm interested in doing the same but I would like to try Symbian. Just the method in how to load a new OS is kinda unknown. WM 6.1 (on my Omnia II) is pretty slow, and have heard symbian works extremely well on Omnia. My mate has it on his omnia I and man it's smooth. He's not one too available for helping though. Other options are cookers for WM but not so sure yet
Any help on where and how? Recommendations?
Cheers

urrently there are no plans for porting to Symbian omnia 2, and I do not think is even possible, given the different resolutions (symbian 640x360 omnia 2480x800 )

AmdPhenomII said:
I have ordered a Galaxy S (White) but intend to keep my Omnia II for other things, such as GPS/Navigation unless the Galaxy S proves itself a worthy contender with FroYo 2.2
As for Android on Omnia II, check this link out http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000-omnia-ii-gsm-rom-discussion/298997/android-on-omnia-2-17-10-2010-see-first-post/
Sad to see the Topic is closed now....
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Guess what, currently the progress seems promising as Almar team already managed to make BlueTooth and WiFi stable and workable...(probably still contain some bug) They are still working on it and these guys are doing an awesome job in keeping our Omnia i8000 alive....cheers and salute to Almar and the Omnia2Droid team!!!! Can't wait to try out Android on my phone..LOL
To check out the progress,
Omnia2Droid homepage: http://code.google.com/p/omnia2droid/
Almar Twitter account: http://twitter.com/#!/INB2ENSECURITY
Latest MoDaCo thread "Android on Omnia 2": http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000-omnia-ii-gsm-rom-discussion/322429/android-on-omnia-ii-i8000/
Youtube links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufrPC8T2Dw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZGdYJn73aM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQMfaMbHWgM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNREXsyOzC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7GvZGedWpQ

Looks quite promising. Tell you what:
If we can get developers here to actively get android working on the Omnia II, I'll get you guys an Android development forum. (i'll have to pull some strings of course...)

WIN PHONE 7 on Omnia 2

All who would like to request developers for Win Phone 7 on their omnia 2 plzz post a request it below

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Yes I would like

I would like too

Even though porting of WP7 has been successful on device such as HD2, however, Microsoft seems not planning to help the developers and hackers in realizing the dream of running WP7, so most likely even if the porting is successful, most or some features and applications are NOT likely to work.
Refer to: http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-comments-on-windows-phone-7-htc-hd2-port/

i would still like to have another OS on my phone just wna get rid of winmo 6.5

fusioncoast said:
i would still like to have another OS on my phone just wna get rid of winmo 6.5
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LOL...aren't you satisfied with Android?

Omnia II Runs winmo

lj27416 said:
Omnia II Runs winmo
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There's a Android porting over now and I'm talking to Fusioncoast btw.

sure I do too
bu i have read before it's not possible cause of the buttons and minimume requirements
i hope u can do it

Yes please, that would be nice to play with.

I want it too...

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I would like to play with wp7 on my omnia2

i would love to have wp7 too! i support your team, gurus!

who wouldn't want if possible?
Omnia2 isn't in the same league with HD2 in terms of hardware specs.even if it's possible, i guess it will be extremely slow

Microsoft has officiallly announced that no WM6.5 or WM6.1 operator can upgrade to Windows Phone 7....even by flashing......

count me in, i want winmo7 too...

7827505059 said:
Microsoft has officiallly announced that no WM6.5 or WM6.1 operator can upgrade to Windows Phone 7....even by flashing......
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This is the truth, sadly. And this thread is going nowhere.
Sorry guys.

Windows 8 on hd²

is it possible on our legendary phone ? :d

oh please... first turn on brain before posting.... Windows 8 is PC platform not mobile...

dxdy said:
oh please... first turn on brain before posting.... Windows 8 is PC platform not mobile...
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Well, not exactly. There will be an ARM-based version, too. And the base of win phone 8 will be nearly the same as win 8. But i guess we should wait until its realesed
greetz,
Spider

yes but only one is now available and is clear for which he ask

LOL .. I´m talking about the update after Tango ..called Appollooo

younut said:
LOL .. I´m talking about the update after Tango ..called Appollooo
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wait and see...

Only Time will tell. Patience will show us the way to many things much rewarding.

The hd2 has already done so much more than it was ever meant to, nothing would really surprise me...i just upgraded to a galaxy s2 and still go back to my hd2 every couple of days because i miss it's versatility...i hope some day there is another device like it in terms of development

I don't think there will ever be another hd2
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium

Windows 8 on mobile?
Oh god what an advance thought - LOL

I think it all depends if the first generation devices (HD7,...) get the update to apollo. then we can expect an update to our hd2 to apollo or even to the real arm windows 8 (since they share the same kernel)

younut said:
LOL .. I´m talking about the update after Tango ..called Appollooo
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Apollo is not "WP8/Win8 ARM" and it should be the last update for WP7 devices, so you can count on it on HD2 I think.

einherie said:
Apollo is not "WP8/Win8 ARM" and it should be the last update for WP7 devices, so you can count on it on HD2 I think.
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I read that apollo will be WP8. if it's going to be 7.x that would be wonderful. you saying " WP8/Win8 ARM " do you mean that there isn't going to be a separate WP8 from the pc win8 arm (except the same kernel). that would be even better.... now imagine we get it on our hd2s just imagination

doniGforce said:
I read that apollo will be WP8. if it's going to be 7.x that would be wonderful. you saying " WP8/Win8 ARM " do you mean that there isn't going to be a separate WP8 from the pc win8 arm (except the same kernel). that would be even better.... now imagine we get it on our hd2s just imagination
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Indeed I've also always read that Apollo is the codename for WP8.
Anyway I hope that there will be a WP8 rom that is runnable on HD2. I sometimes think to buy a native WP8 device, like HTC Titan or Nokia Lumia 800, but than I wouldn't need to follow the HD2 rom development anymore, something I couldn't live without at the moment