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Optimus7 vs Android

It's possible onto this apparatus android to make an operating system?

You want to load up Android on a WP7 device...and ruin it? Why? Do not be so cruel...

if you want Android, then just buy a Android phone and get annoyed with apps that litterly eat your battery and fragmentation .please Leave wp7 alone

gamemanx said:
if you want Android, then just buy a Android phone and get annoyed with apps that litterly eat your battery and fragmentation .please Leave wp7 alone
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This was a reasonable remark, please neglect the one like this!

Please don't compare those two diferent worlds WM is from Wenus and Android is from Mars. I think so that you know what I mean

And WP7 is from ... Mercury...

So tell me from is a Symbian maybe Halley's comet

kapanak said:
You want to load up Android on a WP7 device...and ruin it? Why? Do not be so cruel...
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AHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh ahahahah ahahah ah aha ha ah in other words, lol!!!!!
Have you tried android device?
I have an lg optimus 7 and a Samsung galaxy s... OMG.
One of this is a real device with a real OS. which one?
it's not the optimus
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Android>ios>webos>bada>bbOS>wp7>symbian
This is the fact.
And
Wp7=feature phone
Android=true smartphone.

I was missing the trolls here. Good to see you guys.

LOL why u haven´t buyed a hd2
where u have WP7, Android, Windows mobile, ubuntu, Meego, ... donno what the future brings...
BTW: i buyed this phone only for testing and development.

EagleEye2004 said:
LOL why u haven´t buyed a hd2
where u have WP7, Android, Windows mobile, ubuntu, Meego, ... donno what the future brings...
BTW: i buyed this phone only for testing and development.
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So do I. I think a wp7 gui i very comfortible and useful. Imho the future belongs to wp7 phones.

I was here for a simple wi-fi ad hoc connection and to know if is possible wi fi sharing (now I know that it's so difficult but not impossible) for my lg optimus 7.
Sorry guys, not for offende noone but it's true that wp7 is easy but smartphone IMHO are mini pc and for me they must be able to navigate (if free it's better), have native multitasking, have flash for a best browsing experience, a little bit of game, just for fun or as timekiller, and some tool for syncronize calendar and mail for business. I'm an ex wm 6.1 lover with htc diamond and others, an apple's hater for restricted policy and wp7 is going in this direction. So for me, and I'm so sorry for this, wp7 have all the defects of osx Without the benifits of apple store. The only benifits over apple is that I can choose an economic device or high end device, but there's no compare with Android. Please, try a Samsung Galaxy S or Desire HD with a cooked rom and with lagfix actived. Now my lg optimus 7 is a paperweight.....
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EagleEye2004 said:
LOL why u haven´t buyed a hd2
where u have WP7, Android, Windows mobile, ubuntu, Meego, ... donno what the future brings...
BTW: i buyed this phone only for testing and development.
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Yes, I think that hd2 it's the most beautiful window's device, better than osx and wp7, very close to Android, the only problem the lag after long use...
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Maybe this Android freedom is interesting for who is discovering this kind of thing now, but as a former user of Symbian and WinMo for the last 5 years, this "freedom" isn't interesting for me anymore.
I don't need a "mini PC" in my pocket, I just want to do what I need to do quickly, and for that, WP7 is the best for me.
I don't know for you guys, but I get sick of all those menus and sub-menus to access everything I need on Symbian/WinMo/Android.
I would like to get a little bit more freedom on WP7, but I still can do all I need to do, so it's ok.

Don't you trolls have a cave gathering somewhere? I could swear it was the troll mating season.
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[Q] Do you guys think we'll be getting WP8?

As above, do you think we'll be getting WP8 on the HD2 when it's released?

yes, why not??

I want so, but there is some drawbacks
Like some hardware restrictions, like low cpu clocks...
And the dammm batery drain...

I'll ditch HD2 for a WP8 device as soon as it comes out

i highly doubt it, but who knows if WP8 can run on HD2, i'm not against it.
but agreed. As soon as WP8 devices become available, i'll try to get my hands on one.

ill not be getting any WP phone unless its fully unlocked like the HD2, the improvement in hardware is minimal anyway and the HD2 does more or less anything the new bloody can do....in saying that, from what ive read the WP8 update would be back ported to current first and second gen WP7 devices, this back port would be limited as some hardware features will not be present....obviously!
the big question is will the HD2 get the update and that I can not answer with even a guess, our ROM cooking overlords will need to answer that one.

Lets look at the history.
Htc Hd2 Windows Mobile handset? yes.
Rumored to receive WP7 as update? Yes.
Test for upcoming WP7 devices? Yes.
Officially announced update for HD2? No.
Latest unofficial update of WP7 for HD2? yes.
It's a possibility of having on it but more of a yes cause I'm assuming Microsoft and their partners are using current Windows Phone handsets for Apollo (WP8). Just like how Microsoft and HTC used the HD2 as a test phone for the "new" OS (Windows Phone 7.0). Also, several Windows Phone devices have similar specs to the HTC HD2.

I waiting on IT!!
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will it be much different that the current WP 7.5 thou ??
I have downloaded and installed WIN 8 on a PC and played around with it for a while . Some nice effects with tiles etc clearly moving towards touch screen interaction.
It was after playing with it that i realized WP 7.5 is actually quite a MS pioneer.
I dont think WP8 will be that much different than what we have now to be honest and lets face it , making a call , sending SMS & MMS , email wont change much ...what is there to change.
MS will be focusing on PC and tablets is my guess so i wouldn't hold your breath for a true certified WP version any time soon
Just my 2 cents worth

I think there is a chance, because the HD2 can run so many operating systems. But also the older hardware is probably not going to help either.

bigfilsing said:
will it be much different that the current WP 7.5 thou ??
I have downloaded and installed WIN 8 on a PC and played around with it for a while . Some nice effects with tiles etc clearly moving towards touch screen interaction.
It was after playing with it that i realized WP 7.5 is actually quite a MS pioneer.
I dont think WP8 will be that much different than what we have now to be honest and lets face it , making a call , sending SMS & MMS , email wont change much ...what is there to change.
MS will be focusing on PC and tablets is my guess so i wouldn't hold your breath for a true certified WP version any time soon
Just my 2 cents worth
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I agree with you.windows 8 and wp8 are very good operation.We hd2 owners are happy with seeing wp8 ported on leo.

So do you guys think that WP8 will get a section of its own under the "LEO: HD2" if it is ported to the HTC HD2? Or will it be combined with WP7?

AZNSNSAZN said:
So do you guys think that WP8 will get a section of its own under the "LEO: HD2" if it is ported to the HTC HD2? Or will it be combined with WP7?
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Combined
if it runs WP8 then there would be no use for WP7 on our device and there wouldn't be enough interest to warrant having another forum

dazza9075 said:
Combined
if it runs WP8 then there would be no use for WP7 on our device and there wouldn't be enough interest to warrant having another forum
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I think it should be its own forum. There would still be people who like WP7 and prefer that instead of 8 like people that prefer XP over Windows 7. Then there would be further development of WP7 that branches away from WP8 like current XP customizations and development that branches away from Windows 7.

i agree.
I think the Wp7 (.5) dev will be around for a long time to come. Certainly until the release of the WP8 Apollo
and even then there's the question can it be ported to HD2 and of course what are the requirements of WP8.
Current rumors wont even commit to it being available on current WP7 devices ( Nokia Lumia etc)
Then there's the issue of connecting with WP8 desktop ( and win 7 win XP). Nobody knows for sure what can and cant be done. It would seem MS are slowly turning into apple with regard to their policies. Before you know it we'll be tied to MS market place and MS music etc. Dont think so
I really don't think you will get any better performance . software or battery out of WP8 ( if it comes) SO why worry?
If it loks your after then WP 8 already looks like our WP 7.
If it is really breaking your heart then make a WP8 lock screen

bigfilsing said:
i agree.
I think the Wp7 (.5) dev will be around for a long time to come. Certainly until the release of the WP8 Apollo
and even then there's the question can it be ported to HD2 and of course what are the requirements of WP8.
Current rumors wont even commit to it being available on current WP7 devices ( Nokia Lumia etc)
Then there's the issue of connecting with WP8 desktop ( and win 7 win XP). Nobody knows for sure what can and cant be done. It would seem MS are slowly turning into apple with regard to their policies. Before you know it we'll be tied to MS market place and MS music etc. Dont think so
I really don't think you will get any better performance . software or battery out of WP8 ( if it comes) SO why worry?
If it loks your after then WP 8 already looks like our WP 7.
If it is really breaking your heart then make a WP8 lock screen
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by the same logic we should have android forums for every revision and WM 6 forums and WM 6.5 forums.
the reality is, there is plenty of sub forums
HD2 Android development
HD2 WM development
HD2 WP development
and even the questionable HD2 Linux and meego development
you dont need sub forums for every single thing, IF WP8 is ported to the HD2 i would propose the forum be renamed to WP rather than WP7 people will more than liklely move to WP8 ROMS.
The WP7 Overall development should be renamed WP and incompass all versions of WP
The same

Long live HD2 - just waiting for Windows Phone 8 to be ported

AZNSNSAZN said:
So do you guys think that WP8 will get a section of its own under the "LEO: HD2" if it is ported to the HTC HD2? Or will it be combined with WP7?
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Either a section of its own or sub section (like android 1. SD Card 2 NAND)
I say that as it is likely to take a while to get it really usable as was the case with WP7. So early adopters can converse and solve problems. But WP7 can still keep running along nicely and forum members not have to content with the issues to do with WP8. Personally I hate it when we have completely different aspects mixed in forums - gets just too hard to follow - I used to manage a couple of forums, so speaking from experience.
My strong vote is for a WP7 forum and a separate WP8 forum

Win_XP said:
Long live HD2 - just waiting for Windows Phone 8 to be ported
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Yes but why are you waiting for WP8 to be ported ? I am genuinely interested to know what you think you'll get from WP8 that you don't already have in WP7
One thing i'd like to see is the return of direct contacts syncing via usb . Although im not holding my breath
Even Apple itards can sync their phone with outlook

HD2 is the king!
Hehe,I hope our HD2 can update to wp8.In fact i like the mag2.0.1 batter than this.

Its on the move but is Windows phone 8 [Apollo] possible for our old HD2?

well our phone has just been amazing knowing that the past three years there have been major developments improving our phone's ability. Thanks to the devs android, WP7, ubuntu is now possible (and meego well almost) but MS has just relased windows phone 8 for development and it has many potential features like native code and external slot features, mango apps are even compatible..
So now I wonder (what DFT have to say about this) could this new OS be possibly ported in our device? what do you guys think?

They are saying that existing phones won't be upgraded...are there real technical limitations in play here? If the new "shared core" of Win8/Windows Phone 8 just doesn't support the hardware we have, then I'm not sure there is much hope. Maybe an expert can weigh in here...
At a minimum we can probably get WP7.8, but that's literally the new start screen and nothing else from what I gather.

Apparently all WP7 devices will be upgraded. If this is true we might see a WP8 ROM.

keller112 said:
Apparently all WP7 devices will be upgraded. If this is true we might see a WP8 ROM.
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Microsoft said that's not the case.
I feel sorry for those who brought the Lumia 900 for $700ish (aud) which just got released here (Australia) and now they can't get Apollo.

old windows phones will get an upgrade but its called 7.8 not 8. i'm guessing there's a hardware limitation because there really isn't any other reason to screw over all the current windows phone owners specially lumia, but then again Microsoft said wp7 is not compatible with hd2 ...

MTN_HD2 said:
old windows phones will get an upgrade but its called 7.8 not 8. i'm guessing there's a hardware limitation because there really isn't any other reason to screw over all the current windows phone owners specially lumia, but then again Microsoft said wp7 is not compatible with hd2 ...
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Essentially WP7.8 will be WP8 minus the hardware-specific features such as the multi-core support and the NFC things. From what I've heard it will have exactly the same UI everywhere else.

based on the specs of HTC Rio, I could say WP8 is possible for our phones!

Nigeldg said:
Essentially WP7.8 will be WP8 minus the hardware-specific features such as the multi-core support and the NFC things. From what I've heard it will have exactly the same UI everywhere else.
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It will just be like a WP8 theme for WP7. WP7.8 won't run any WP8 apps at all.
drmodify said:
based on the specs of HTC Rio, I could say WP8 is possible for our phones!
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HTC Rio uses a Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor while the HD2 only has a Snapdragon S1. I would worry that the WP8 user experience might not be so good on the old Snapdragon S1. However, I think the bigger obstacle is WP8 is supposed to require DirectX10 while the HD2 GPU is an Adreno 200 which only supports DirectX9.

GnatGoSplat said:
It will just be like a WP8 theme for WP7. WP7.8 won't run any WP8 apps at all.
HTC Rio uses a Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor while the HD2 only has a Snapdragon S1. I would worry that the WP8 user experience might not be so good on the old Snapdragon S1. However, I think the bigger obstacle is WP8 is supposed to require DirectX10 while the HD2 GPU is an Adreno 200 which only supports DirectX9.
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yeah that will be the problem but I think there will be ways to circumvent it just like the touch drivers for the WP7. In general I see it with minor set backs in speed but it would be functional

drmodify said:
yeah that will be the problem but I think there will be ways to circumvent it just like the touch drivers for the WP7. In general I see it with minor set backs in speed but it would be functional
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That would be great, I guess I will hold onto my HD2 until someone like Cotulla says it can or can not be done.

Not to break your heart but to clear your mind
Well here's the evidence we needed for HD2
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So to some of the users that still have questions about Windows Phone 8 on our HD2:
There are no drivers for the windows 8 kernel available. Also Secure Boot for the WinRT kernel might pose issues
We only made it this far because WP7 is based on the WinCE kernel (as Windows Mobile was), the similairity with the HTC HD7 and beta drivers were maybe developed for platform development/testing purposes back in 2009/2010
After sticking with the HD2 for about 3 years and actively updating, I think a Windows 8 device will be my next upgrade.
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!
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the verdict:
WP7.8 Possible
WP8: not possible
any helpful intellectual inputs on this guys?

To add some hope though
check this out! look at paragraph 3!
Microsoft’s senior marketing manager for Windows Phone, Greg Sullivan, says that it's not impossible to port WP8 on older devices, but the cost of doing that would be very high and the benefit very little
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So I guess there is some hope afterall, mods will decide on this :good:

drmodify said:
Well here's the evidence we needed for HD2
the verdict:
WP7.8 Possible
WP8: not possible
any helpful intellectual inputs on this guys?
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Well, I never heard of "kid1988", but I don't get around much. Is he a reputable source of tech info like Cotulla?

GnatGoSplat said:
Well, I never heard of "kid1988", but I don't get around much. Is he a reputable source of tech info like Cotulla?
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he's not a mod but a long time HD2 experienced user. You can check his profile out but for me he seems legit. Anyway the good thing is there still is hope

I see. Kid1988 might know his stuff, and I mean no offense to him when I say this, but I will wait till the HD2 guru master Cotulla says WP8 is a no-go. After all, he was the one that brought WP7 to the HD2 and knows how to write custom SPLs and bootloaders.

drmodify said:
check this out! look at paragraph 3!
So I guess there is some hope afterall, mods will decide on this :good:
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WP8 enables multi-core support, higher resolution screens, NFC, microSD card support and so on
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This alone would be reason to port WP8. I guess if there will be MicroSD support, this would mean that the cards wouldn't be encrypted, and would make things for WP+SD Android users much, much easier. There wouldn't be so much partitioning and stuff involved.

HTC HD2 and Windows Phone 8

Well,
What do u guys Think? Can the HD2 handle Wp8? or maybe only Windows Phone 7.8? Im acutally going to base my desicion of buying a new phone upon whether HD2 will get windows phone 8 or not.
All devs busted there asses working on the HD2, i mean what more can we ask from them?

7.8 yes but WP8 no... WP8 have different hardware.... maybe someone cook lite version but look how many problems we have with drivers for now...

so true, there are so many bugs and more and more devs drop their developing for HD2 and moves on to new devices, which means we are in a down hill and it will be harder and harder to fix many bugs and strange behaviours. Correct me if im wrong, but I guess we should be happy if we even get WP 7.8 anytime before summer of 2013

bigx86 said:
so true, there are so many bugs and more and more devs drop their developing for HD2 and moves on to new devices, which means we are in a down hill and it will be harder and harder to fix many bugs and strange behaviours. Correct me if im wrong, but I guess we should be happy if we even get WP 7.8 anytime before summer of 2013
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+1 on this.. i'm pretty sure it wont get a wp8. the device is pretty old now. but i believe wp 7.8 will be out soon(almost in sync with hd7) as we have all the drivers. :good:

bigx86 said:
so true, there are so many bugs and more and more devs drop their developing for HD2 and moves on to new devices, which means we are in a down hill and it will be harder and harder to fix many bugs and strange behaviours. Correct me if im wrong, but I guess we should be happy if we even get WP 7.8 anytime before summer of 2013
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Sorry, but when exactly is the Summer of 2013? What month? I don't live in the US, and my country doesn't even have seasons, so I'm not sure what month you're talking about.

Well, if the rumors are true, HTC could will release the HTC Rio, a WP8 device witch same specifications that HTC HD2. In this case, HD2 can update to Windows Phone 8 witch the help of developers.

Is it the same Snapdragon ? Same Ram ? Same Sensors? Same Screen?

daedric said:
Is it the same Snapdragon ? Same Ram ? Same Sensors? Same Screen?
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You should google before asking questions :angel:

Well, if the rumors are true, HTC could will release the HTC Rio, a WP8 device witch same specifications that HTC HD2. In this case, HD2 can update to Windows Phone 8 witch the help of developers
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I wouldnt bet on that if I were you .
We said this so many times before, until I lost count loll. Just because there is another phone with smiliar specs as the HD2 doesnt mean that all we need is move the software and we are good to go...There is alot of diffrences in the code (not to mention Windows CE => Windows NT) between WP 7.5 and WP8, I think we need to rewrite some drivers!!!

iliendo said:
You should google before asking questions :angel:
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Sir, i was not asking, just doing a rethorical question, trying to explain the user that just because it have the same amount of ram, or a Snapdragon 1ghz, doesn't mean it has similar specs.

bigx86 said:
I wouldnt bet on that if I were you .
We said this so many times before, until I lost count loll. Just because there is another phone with smiliar specs as the HD2 doesnt mean that all we need is move the software and we are good to go...There is alot of diffrences in the code (not to mention Windows CE => Windows NT) between WP 7.5 and WP8, I think we need to rewrite some drivers!!!
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It´s true. Drivers could be diferent of the HD2, but also is posible that the HTC Rio have got similar chipset and the drivers ports could be easy. I don´t lose the hope.

HTC Rio is a S4 device and our is S1.
There is still hope though, WP8 has more documentation compared to Windows Phone 7.

Nokia Lumia 920 is out today..
Windows phone 8 looks fantastic, i really hope that you guys can make it.
Please make it happen
Flickr and blur free camera shoots would be just great!

no chance for WP8 on HD2... especially when i see today presentation of Lumia 920....
hardware is toooo low for WP8 and too different....
P.S.
i love Smart Shoot on Lumia 920 automatically remove walking people from photography

lumia 900 can't up to WP8, so i think our HD2 can't too ^^

bigx86 said:
so true, there are so many bugs and more and more devs drop their developing for HD2 and moves on to new devices, which means we are in a down hill and it will be harder and harder to fix many bugs and strange behaviours. Correct me if im wrong, but I guess we should be happy if we even get WP 7.8 anytime before summer of 2013
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"2013" its so long
i hope batteray drain not like wp7..

I love it when the " all knowing" members try to make fun of someone's question. Instead of just replying with a "yes" or "no" someone always has to be a real jerk. They probably will make a wp8 ROM for the HTC hd2, because people enjoy it.
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Only if DFT and yuki get working back on the project
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jojojoey123 said:
I love it when the " all knowing" members try to make fun of someone's question. Instead of just replying with a "yes" or "no" someone always has to be a real jerk. They probably will make a wp8 ROM for the HTC hd2, because people enjoy it.
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It's not just people enjoying it. Sure, it has its weight, but remember, this ain't Android. We have the source code of almost nothing.
If we can find a device with very similar (read, almost all) hardware, we might have a chance of using it's drivers on HD2.
Has it stands, i hardly doubt there will be a single core, adreno200 WP8 device. Even on WP7 we're strugling with driver incompatibility.Why do you think we have such weird battery usage? And that camera trick? That's a exploit that's probably reseting some driver/process and lowering our battery consumption.
Where there's a will, there's a way... it's not impossible, just very difficult and highly improvable.

the porting of 7.8 has been very simple for devs, i think that we have serious possibilities to see WP8 on hd2!

[News] Windows Phone 8 on the HD2

Hi guys !
Firstly, this is a NEWS thread and we can still not say for 100% whether this news is true but..
Windows Phone 8 has been ported to the HD2 by DFT!
These are the sources I have looked at
https://twitter.com/CotullaCode
http://pocketnow.com/2012/11/29/windows-phone-8-htc-hd2
http://translate.google.com/transla....darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-145281-1-1.html
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-145281-1-1.html
Let's hope for the best !
Cotulla has updated his twitter with more info so please check his twitter out !
And for now, Fingers Crossed !
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P.S. I have a feeling that this may only be for the T-Mobile version of the HD2

WP8 may boot from SD
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You may also want to look at the thread a couple of posts below yours in which Cotulla himself has posted some info about it

Same thing I posted on the other thread.
There are going to be a mountain of problems getting the thing actually to work completely and reliably on WP8.
There is a huge difference between getting it to sort of boot and sort of work (easy), and making it something actually usable, reliable, and fast (very very hard).
UEFI loader might be done, but ACPI is going to be screwed, power management screwed, WiFi screwed, Bluetooth screwed, phone modem screwed, graphics not/partially GPU accelerated, audio hw codecs, video hw codecs... list is gonna go on and on.
There is gonna be a mountain of work ahead if u want to make such a ROM actually self-hostable, good luck with that.

Yes huge work and not sure many people are interested. WP8 on HD2, an old phone, still good but not quick enough for that. I'm happy with android rom and will not try WP8 on it.

I would like say it is very good news. HD2 never die

I hope so.
I think that will be WP8 for HD2, but not for everyday use. Just as Ubuntu or MeeGo.

might give this a try thanks

Windows8
DuffyLaad said:
might give this a try thanks
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I think stable Android is goog enough for HD2

WP8 will never work optimally on hd2
we shall see whether WP8 comes on hd2
Cotulla is testing the rom but it is far from certain that he is giving the rom to the public

Windows Phone 8 OS 8.0.97...
When it is available for download

That will be great to dual boot, from android to wp8

That sounds realy good!!!!!:laugh:

Windows Phone 7.8 is a little bit laggy on HD2. I deceide to go back to Android after a few day using it

I can't wait it any more

Nigeldg said:
You may also want to look at the thread a couple of posts below yours in which Cotulla himself has posted some info about it
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This thread will be closed as it is almost a duplicate of another thread.
Sorry guys i didn't see the Other threads