Well,
What do u guys Think? Can the HD2 handle Wp8? or maybe only Windows Phone 7.8? Im acutally going to base my desicion of buying a new phone upon whether HD2 will get windows phone 8 or not.
All devs busted there asses working on the HD2, i mean what more can we ask from them?
7.8 yes but WP8 no... WP8 have different hardware.... maybe someone cook lite version but look how many problems we have with drivers for now...
so true, there are so many bugs and more and more devs drop their developing for HD2 and moves on to new devices, which means we are in a down hill and it will be harder and harder to fix many bugs and strange behaviours. Correct me if im wrong, but I guess we should be happy if we even get WP 7.8 anytime before summer of 2013
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so true, there are so many bugs and more and more devs drop their developing for HD2 and moves on to new devices, which means we are in a down hill and it will be harder and harder to fix many bugs and strange behaviours. Correct me if im wrong, but I guess we should be happy if we even get WP 7.8 anytime before summer of 2013
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+1 on this.. i'm pretty sure it wont get a wp8. the device is pretty old now. but i believe wp 7.8 will be out soon(almost in sync with hd7) as we have all the drivers. :good:
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so true, there are so many bugs and more and more devs drop their developing for HD2 and moves on to new devices, which means we are in a down hill and it will be harder and harder to fix many bugs and strange behaviours. Correct me if im wrong, but I guess we should be happy if we even get WP 7.8 anytime before summer of 2013
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Sorry, but when exactly is the Summer of 2013? What month? I don't live in the US, and my country doesn't even have seasons, so I'm not sure what month you're talking about.
Well, if the rumors are true, HTC could will release the HTC Rio, a WP8 device witch same specifications that HTC HD2. In this case, HD2 can update to Windows Phone 8 witch the help of developers.
Is it the same Snapdragon ? Same Ram ? Same Sensors? Same Screen?
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Is it the same Snapdragon ? Same Ram ? Same Sensors? Same Screen?
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You should google before asking questions :angel:
Well, if the rumors are true, HTC could will release the HTC Rio, a WP8 device witch same specifications that HTC HD2. In this case, HD2 can update to Windows Phone 8 witch the help of developers
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I wouldnt bet on that if I were you .
We said this so many times before, until I lost count loll. Just because there is another phone with smiliar specs as the HD2 doesnt mean that all we need is move the software and we are good to go...There is alot of diffrences in the code (not to mention Windows CE => Windows NT) between WP 7.5 and WP8, I think we need to rewrite some drivers!!!
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Sir, i was not asking, just doing a rethorical question, trying to explain the user that just because it have the same amount of ram, or a Snapdragon 1ghz, doesn't mean it has similar specs.
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I wouldnt bet on that if I were you .
We said this so many times before, until I lost count loll. Just because there is another phone with smiliar specs as the HD2 doesnt mean that all we need is move the software and we are good to go...There is alot of diffrences in the code (not to mention Windows CE => Windows NT) between WP 7.5 and WP8, I think we need to rewrite some drivers!!!
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It´s true. Drivers could be diferent of the HD2, but also is posible that the HTC Rio have got similar chipset and the drivers ports could be easy. I don´t lose the hope.
HTC Rio is a S4 device and our is S1.
There is still hope though, WP8 has more documentation compared to Windows Phone 7.
Nokia Lumia 920 is out today..
Windows phone 8 looks fantastic, i really hope that you guys can make it.
Please make it happen
Flickr and blur free camera shoots would be just great!
no chance for WP8 on HD2... especially when i see today presentation of Lumia 920....
hardware is toooo low for WP8 and too different....
P.S.
i love Smart Shoot on Lumia 920 automatically remove walking people from photography
lumia 900 can't up to WP8, so i think our HD2 can't too ^^
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so true, there are so many bugs and more and more devs drop their developing for HD2 and moves on to new devices, which means we are in a down hill and it will be harder and harder to fix many bugs and strange behaviours. Correct me if im wrong, but I guess we should be happy if we even get WP 7.8 anytime before summer of 2013
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"2013" its so long
i hope batteray drain not like wp7..
I love it when the " all knowing" members try to make fun of someone's question. Instead of just replying with a "yes" or "no" someone always has to be a real jerk. They probably will make a wp8 ROM for the HTC hd2, because people enjoy it.
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Only if DFT and yuki get working back on the project
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I love it when the " all knowing" members try to make fun of someone's question. Instead of just replying with a "yes" or "no" someone always has to be a real jerk. They probably will make a wp8 ROM for the HTC hd2, because people enjoy it.
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It's not just people enjoying it. Sure, it has its weight, but remember, this ain't Android. We have the source code of almost nothing.
If we can find a device with very similar (read, almost all) hardware, we might have a chance of using it's drivers on HD2.
Has it stands, i hardly doubt there will be a single core, adreno200 WP8 device. Even on WP7 we're strugling with driver incompatibility.Why do you think we have such weird battery usage? And that camera trick? That's a exploit that's probably reseting some driver/process and lowering our battery consumption.
Where there's a will, there's a way... it's not impossible, just very difficult and highly improvable.
the porting of 7.8 has been very simple for devs, i think that we have serious possibilities to see WP8 on hd2!
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Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
Fabian1985 said:
Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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Specs are good, but hardware requirements are not met by the HD2, now what does that mean, well it means that HTC did not look ahead, and used the wrong button configuration on the phone, so it is outside the spec of what MS says is required for WP7.
So yes we are Officially screwed out of WP7 because of the buttons on our phones .....
I doubt MS is going to change their requirements for the very few existing WinMo phones that have the CPU and RAM to handle WP7.
The hard resetting you have to do every couple weeks may have more to do with WinMo 6.5.x than the fact that it's a custom ROM. I'm sure we'll get near-stock WP7 ROMs that will function much better than what we currently have. Don't lament before we even have anything on that front.
I don't think wp7 will even be a viable option for most of us anyways (at least the initial release). Very locked down, sounds a lot like the first iphone. I'm hoping they update quickly and open it up (at least every 2-3 months), but I wouldn't hold my breath.
That is why I decided to take the plunge with the hd2. Figured it would be a couple of years before I was ready to jump on wp7. (though that 1.5ghz snapdragon htc sounds interesting and apparently is coming to t-mobile...)
chuck232 said:
The hard resetting you have to do every couple weeks may have more to do with WinMo 6.5.x than the fact that it's a custom ROM. I'm sure we'll get near-stock WP7 ROMs that will function much better than what we currently have. Don't lament before we even have anything on that front.
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Ow is it? Cuz now I still work with my HTC Raph100 with those custom roms I talked about. I'm hoping to unbox my Leo begin this week.
So are the roms better now for the Leo?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
When I go to the offical windows mobile 7 home page..the first thing I see is the HTC Leo!!!
p.s. Sorry for the image size :$
Greetz,
Fabian1985
im still trying to work out why anyone would WANT wp7 on their hd2. itd be like putting Windows 1.0 on an Alienware pc. im sure there will be custom roms if you wanna have a glorified Instinct, but just cause something is new doesnt mean its better. why would you want to cripple this powerhouse phone with that dumbed-down software? doyou actually WANT to be able to do less with it???
im still trying to work out why anyone would WANT wp7 on their hd2. itd be like putting Windows 1.0 on an Alienware pc. im sure there will be custom roms if you wanna have a glorified Instinct, but just cause something is new doesnt mean its better. why would you want to cripple this powerhouse phone with that dumbed-down software? doyou actually WANT to be able to do less with it???
The reason I want to have It Is this:
I read that Windows Mobile 6.5 is based on all the old previous versions, based on CE blabla (I don't know It exactly anymore) so there Is alot of old junk that is not needed anymore.
The new Winmo 7 is totally new so therefore It should be allot faster then all the previous versions.
Please tell me If I'm wrong..
Greetz,
Fabian1985
For me, tinkering is fun, but that is not the main function of my work device. I want it to work, and work well. If that means giving up a couple features, features which I can live without, then I'll play ball. WP7 has been built from the ground up with a very different goal than Windows Mobile, which had the original goal of bringing the PC to a PDA format. I don't need that, and the functionality that is associated with that goal gets in the way of usability for my purposes. If your use cases do not match up with what WP7 is capable of, so be it, but know that the vast majority of customers aren't tinkerers and tweakers.
Fabian1985 said:
The reason I want to have It Is this:
I read that Windows Mobile 6.5 is based on all the old previous versions, based on CE blabla (I don't know It exactly anymore) so there Is alot of old junk that is not needed anymore.
The new Winmo 7 is totally new so therefore It should be allot faster then all the previous versions.
Please tell me If I'm wrong..
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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"alot of old junk" in WM 6.5? Oh yes - like copy & paste, and proper multitasking? If you think that's junk, you'll love WP7.
iPhone OS v1 was rubbish. v4 finally has most of what you actually need and what WM has had for years. Same with Android - the first versions were severly lacking in many areas. Only now is it coming into it's own at v2.2.
Anyone should be able to see that since it's a completely new OS, WP7 will be equally as rubbish as the iPhone and Android offerings were at initial release.
yes, BUT WM still misses a lot of stuff such as gfx libs for better programs...
like ballmer says... they need to lure Developers Developers Developers somehow...
iPhone is #1 because of apps... WM is last only because of apps... and WM7 is taking sooo long because MS's management SUCKS... they seriously need to hire someone better to get thier mobile dept straightened... look at kin... what it could have been if only those devs were still part of wp7...
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yes, BUT WM still misses a lot of stuff such as gfx libs for better programs...
like ballmer says... they need to lure Developers Developers Developers somehow...
iPhone is #1 because of apps... WM is last only because of apps... and WM7 is taking sooo long because MS's management SUCKS... they seriously need to hire someone better to get thier mobile dept straightened... look at kin... what it could have been if only those devs were still part of wp7...
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They put in Terry Myerson a bit more than a year ago, but thanks anyways for the un-researched comment. He's been spearheading the reset efforts in WP7. Some like him, some don't. I'll reserve and judgment until WP7 is launched and tested in the market.
This is a stupid and pointless thread.
Fabian1985 said:
Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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Be patient and wait for WM Phone 7 to come out! Once it's out you / HD2 will get the chance.
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This is a stupid and pointless thread.
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Well, yes it is now, did not start out that way, but a discussion is one thing ...
But when people have convinced themselves of something , and just want to argue the point it is no longer a discussion ...
1.) HD2 Specs are great, but HTC did not adhere to What MS has released as specs for WP7, so HTC screwed us out of an Official WP7.
2.) MS specs for WP7 were released(but not to the public) before the HD2 was , so MS is not inclined or obligated to change their specs to fit the HD2
3.) We actually have 1 too many buttons on the HD2 but None of them are the almighty "Search" button, so again the HD2 is outside the spec so no official WP7.
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Well, yes it is now, did not start out that way, but a discussion is one thing ...
But when people have convinced themselves of something , and just want to argue the point it is no longer a discussion ...
1.) HD2 Specs are great, but HTC did not adhere to What MS has released as specs for WP7, so HTC screwed us out of an Official WP7.
2.) MS specs for WP7 were released(but not to the public) before the HD2 was , so MS is not inclined or obligated to change their specs to fit the HD2
3.) We actually have 1 too many buttons on the HD2 but None of them are the almighty "Search" button, so again the HD2 is outside the spec so no official WP7.
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Actually, the Euro version of the HD2 was released before the announcement of WP7. Still, I'm not sure if HTC was made aware of the requirements by the time they were already far along in the design of the HD2.
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Actually, the Euro version of the HD2 was released before the announcement of WP7. Still, I'm not sure if HTC was made aware of the requirements by the time they were already far along in the design of the HD2.
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I had heard about the 3 button some time early last year, but you are right that may have been after the design and during the production phase of the HD2.
MS did not make an Official release of the specs till I think January of this year, I think that is when it was.
Either way , you can blame HTC, you can blame MS, but, it is true for any piece of technology, CPU's that keep changing sockets, Video Cards that keep changing standards, DVD/Blu-Ray standards the list goes, on ...
I mean providers are not going to change what they decide to to with regards to their specs and requirements just because people scream, I mean why can't I run Iphone OS on my HD2(not that I want to ), because it is not compatible, even though the HD2 out powers most Iphones, and just because Apple says NO.
I suggest, instead of getting all up in arms here, and bashing people for their views you contact MS and HTC and complain to them, not that it will get you anywhere, just as posting here is just gonna start a big discussion, but not fix it anyway.
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They put in Terry Myerson a bit more than a year ago, but thanks anyways for the un-researched comment. He's been spearheading the reset efforts in WP7. Some like him, some don't. I'll reserve and judgment until WP7 is launched and tested in the market.
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Yes, sorry I meant more like management a while ago... 1 year ago is still much after iPhone released... they should have done something like WP7 from the beginning and if management wasn't an issue, I doubt we would see two different teams for mobile in the first place: Kin and WP7... I do agree however, management is seeming much better now...
EDIT: also, for hardware keys, all we're missing is the search button... since wp7 will have windows button go to the tiles screen which is also the home, we can map the home screen to search (Kind of implying home page aka bing/search)? If they wanted MS could have easily added official support, but i am sure HTC influenced them to do that... since that would mean HD3 sales for them... ahh if only i were rich :-/...
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EDIT: also, for hardware keys, all we're missing is the search button... since wp7 will have windows button go to the tiles screen which is also the home, we can map the home screen to search (Kind of implying home page aka bing/search)? If they wanted MS could have easily added official support, but i am sure HTC influenced them to do that... since that would mean HD3 sales for them... ahh if only i were rich :-/...
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True, and I am sure some of the smart guys here will do just that for our custom WP7 ...
Now that WM7 has been released as of today - is there anyone out here that's going to try to get it to work with our beloved HD2's ???
The WM7 project was killed 2 years ago, so I doubt it was released today.
Are you referring to Windows Phone 7?
obviously...
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The WM7 project was killed 2 years ago, so I doubt it was released today.
Are you referring to Windows Phone 7?
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Is there ever really a need for that? If you don't have anything constructive or
productive to add to somebody's question then don't bother replying. You and your smug attitude should find another spot to troll. I hear the Engadget comment
section is a haven for trolls. Go be among your own kind.
@TechnoHippie I'm glad you asked, that's what I came here for today. I would
love WP7 on my HD2. Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy Android, I just
can't take this incessant battery drain anymore.
Good question i wouldnt mind trying it out but your too early i believe, i doubt we will see WP7 ports to the HD2 till maybe WP7 phones are released its not as simple as throwing on a rom i believe microsoft built from scratch with WP7 and so the ports to the HD2 if they happen will probably be much like the android builds currently test and fix type of things
I want my windows mobile 7 on my hd2
I WANT MY WINDOWS MOBILE 7 ON MY HD2
I WANT MY WINDOWS MOBILE 7 ON MY HD2
I WANT MY WINDOWS MOBILE 7 ON MY HD2
I WANT MY WINDOWS MOBILE 7 ON MY HD2
Come on guys, you can do it... PUULEEZZZ
I will donate for who develop a WM7 ROM for sure.
Okay people seriously, STOP REVIVEING THESE WP7 ROM THREADS WITH USELESS INFORMATION.
It will be made when its made... no reason to beg. Don't get your hopes up about wp7 on hd2 ... it may not even be able to use market or any of its cloud support if it does got ported, as the devs who have been working on it said that wp7 devices have a unique code that lets Microsoft's servers know its an authentic device. We may not be able to get around that on a wp7 port.
I don't see the big deal about wp7 anyways... I'd rather use winmo and android myself.
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It will be made when its made... no reason to beg. Don't get your hopes up about wp7 on hd2 ... it may not even be able to use market or any of its cloud support if it does got ported, as the devs who have been working on it said that wp7 devices have a unique code that lets Microsoft's servers know its an authentic device. We may not be able to get around that on a wp7 port.
I don't see the big deal about wp7 anyways... I'd rather use winmo and android myself.
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I would of agree with you but winmo with Android still needs a lot of work to be satisfied about!!!
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Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy Android, I just can't take this incessant battery drain anymore.
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Which build are you using? There are a few builds out there that are very stable and are phenomenal with battery life.
MS is totally controlling this thing... sucks...
Wich build are you talking about?
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Is there ever really a need for that? If you don't have anything constructive or
productive to add to somebody's question then don't bother replying. You and your smug attitude should find another spot to troll. I hear the Engadget comment
section is a haven for trolls. Go be among your own kind.
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It gets real tiresome wading through thread after thread of doofuses asking the same DUMB questions over and over... and it's even worse when said doofuses asking said dumb questions can't even be bothered to get past their own ignorance about even the name of the product.
Also I see you are a hypocrite, since you added nothing "productive" to this thread except "yeah, me too!" and yet you felt the need not only to post (contradicting your own admonition), but to pass judgments. You can piss right off!
KruseLudsMobile said:
I WANT MY WINDOWS MOBILE 7 ON MY HD2
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Well, you will NEVER get it. Windows Mobile 7 has not existed for quite some time, since the project was apparently canceled, in favor of a new product known as Windows Phone 7.
Dude he prob was trying to make sure they was talking about the same thing
Well not to kill his dream but WP7 is comming to the HTC HD2 Soon. Here look at the post. It was posted just Yesterday. Looks like your dream will come true.
http://www.xda-developers.com/windo...-hd2-is-beginning-to-look-like-a-reality-but/
is it possible on our legendary phone ? :d
oh please... first turn on brain before posting.... Windows 8 is PC platform not mobile...
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oh please... first turn on brain before posting.... Windows 8 is PC platform not mobile...
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Well, not exactly. There will be an ARM-based version, too. And the base of win phone 8 will be nearly the same as win 8. But i guess we should wait until its realesed
greetz,
Spider
yes but only one is now available and is clear for which he ask
LOL .. I´m talking about the update after Tango ..called Appollooo
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LOL .. I´m talking about the update after Tango ..called Appollooo
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wait and see...
Only Time will tell. Patience will show us the way to many things much rewarding.
The hd2 has already done so much more than it was ever meant to, nothing would really surprise me...i just upgraded to a galaxy s2 and still go back to my hd2 every couple of days because i miss it's versatility...i hope some day there is another device like it in terms of development
I don't think there will ever be another hd2
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Windows 8 on mobile?
Oh god what an advance thought - LOL
I think it all depends if the first generation devices (HD7,...) get the update to apollo. then we can expect an update to our hd2 to apollo or even to the real arm windows 8 (since they share the same kernel)
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LOL .. I´m talking about the update after Tango ..called Appollooo
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Apollo is not "WP8/Win8 ARM" and it should be the last update for WP7 devices, so you can count on it on HD2 I think.
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Apollo is not "WP8/Win8 ARM" and it should be the last update for WP7 devices, so you can count on it on HD2 I think.
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I read that apollo will be WP8. if it's going to be 7.x that would be wonderful. you saying " WP8/Win8 ARM " do you mean that there isn't going to be a separate WP8 from the pc win8 arm (except the same kernel). that would be even better.... now imagine we get it on our hd2s just imagination
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I read that apollo will be WP8. if it's going to be 7.x that would be wonderful. you saying " WP8/Win8 ARM " do you mean that there isn't going to be a separate WP8 from the pc win8 arm (except the same kernel). that would be even better.... now imagine we get it on our hd2s just imagination
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Indeed I've also always read that Apollo is the codename for WP8.
Anyway I hope that there will be a WP8 rom that is runnable on HD2. I sometimes think to buy a native WP8 device, like HTC Titan or Nokia Lumia 800, but than I wouldn't need to follow the HD2 rom development anymore, something I couldn't live without at the moment
As above, do you think we'll be getting WP8 on the HD2 when it's released?
yes, why not??
I want so, but there is some drawbacks
Like some hardware restrictions, like low cpu clocks...
And the dammm batery drain...
I'll ditch HD2 for a WP8 device as soon as it comes out
i highly doubt it, but who knows if WP8 can run on HD2, i'm not against it.
but agreed. As soon as WP8 devices become available, i'll try to get my hands on one.
ill not be getting any WP phone unless its fully unlocked like the HD2, the improvement in hardware is minimal anyway and the HD2 does more or less anything the new bloody can do....in saying that, from what ive read the WP8 update would be back ported to current first and second gen WP7 devices, this back port would be limited as some hardware features will not be present....obviously!
the big question is will the HD2 get the update and that I can not answer with even a guess, our ROM cooking overlords will need to answer that one.
Lets look at the history.
Htc Hd2 Windows Mobile handset? yes.
Rumored to receive WP7 as update? Yes.
Test for upcoming WP7 devices? Yes.
Officially announced update for HD2? No.
Latest unofficial update of WP7 for HD2? yes.
It's a possibility of having on it but more of a yes cause I'm assuming Microsoft and their partners are using current Windows Phone handsets for Apollo (WP8). Just like how Microsoft and HTC used the HD2 as a test phone for the "new" OS (Windows Phone 7.0). Also, several Windows Phone devices have similar specs to the HTC HD2.
I waiting on IT!!
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will it be much different that the current WP 7.5 thou ??
I have downloaded and installed WIN 8 on a PC and played around with it for a while . Some nice effects with tiles etc clearly moving towards touch screen interaction.
It was after playing with it that i realized WP 7.5 is actually quite a MS pioneer.
I dont think WP8 will be that much different than what we have now to be honest and lets face it , making a call , sending SMS & MMS , email wont change much ...what is there to change.
MS will be focusing on PC and tablets is my guess so i wouldn't hold your breath for a true certified WP version any time soon
Just my 2 cents worth
I think there is a chance, because the HD2 can run so many operating systems. But also the older hardware is probably not going to help either.
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will it be much different that the current WP 7.5 thou ??
I have downloaded and installed WIN 8 on a PC and played around with it for a while . Some nice effects with tiles etc clearly moving towards touch screen interaction.
It was after playing with it that i realized WP 7.5 is actually quite a MS pioneer.
I dont think WP8 will be that much different than what we have now to be honest and lets face it , making a call , sending SMS & MMS , email wont change much ...what is there to change.
MS will be focusing on PC and tablets is my guess so i wouldn't hold your breath for a true certified WP version any time soon
Just my 2 cents worth
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I agree with you.windows 8 and wp8 are very good operation.We hd2 owners are happy with seeing wp8 ported on leo.
So do you guys think that WP8 will get a section of its own under the "LEO: HD2" if it is ported to the HTC HD2? Or will it be combined with WP7?
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So do you guys think that WP8 will get a section of its own under the "LEO: HD2" if it is ported to the HTC HD2? Or will it be combined with WP7?
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Combined
if it runs WP8 then there would be no use for WP7 on our device and there wouldn't be enough interest to warrant having another forum
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Combined
if it runs WP8 then there would be no use for WP7 on our device and there wouldn't be enough interest to warrant having another forum
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I think it should be its own forum. There would still be people who like WP7 and prefer that instead of 8 like people that prefer XP over Windows 7. Then there would be further development of WP7 that branches away from WP8 like current XP customizations and development that branches away from Windows 7.
i agree.
I think the Wp7 (.5) dev will be around for a long time to come. Certainly until the release of the WP8 Apollo
and even then there's the question can it be ported to HD2 and of course what are the requirements of WP8.
Current rumors wont even commit to it being available on current WP7 devices ( Nokia Lumia etc)
Then there's the issue of connecting with WP8 desktop ( and win 7 win XP). Nobody knows for sure what can and cant be done. It would seem MS are slowly turning into apple with regard to their policies. Before you know it we'll be tied to MS market place and MS music etc. Dont think so
I really don't think you will get any better performance . software or battery out of WP8 ( if it comes) SO why worry?
If it loks your after then WP 8 already looks like our WP 7.
If it is really breaking your heart then make a WP8 lock screen
bigfilsing said:
i agree.
I think the Wp7 (.5) dev will be around for a long time to come. Certainly until the release of the WP8 Apollo
and even then there's the question can it be ported to HD2 and of course what are the requirements of WP8.
Current rumors wont even commit to it being available on current WP7 devices ( Nokia Lumia etc)
Then there's the issue of connecting with WP8 desktop ( and win 7 win XP). Nobody knows for sure what can and cant be done. It would seem MS are slowly turning into apple with regard to their policies. Before you know it we'll be tied to MS market place and MS music etc. Dont think so
I really don't think you will get any better performance . software or battery out of WP8 ( if it comes) SO why worry?
If it loks your after then WP 8 already looks like our WP 7.
If it is really breaking your heart then make a WP8 lock screen
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by the same logic we should have android forums for every revision and WM 6 forums and WM 6.5 forums.
the reality is, there is plenty of sub forums
HD2 Android development
HD2 WM development
HD2 WP development
and even the questionable HD2 Linux and meego development
you dont need sub forums for every single thing, IF WP8 is ported to the HD2 i would propose the forum be renamed to WP rather than WP7 people will more than liklely move to WP8 ROMS.
The WP7 Overall development should be renamed WP and incompass all versions of WP
The same
Long live HD2 - just waiting for Windows Phone 8 to be ported
AZNSNSAZN said:
So do you guys think that WP8 will get a section of its own under the "LEO: HD2" if it is ported to the HTC HD2? Or will it be combined with WP7?
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Either a section of its own or sub section (like android 1. SD Card 2 NAND)
I say that as it is likely to take a while to get it really usable as was the case with WP7. So early adopters can converse and solve problems. But WP7 can still keep running along nicely and forum members not have to content with the issues to do with WP8. Personally I hate it when we have completely different aspects mixed in forums - gets just too hard to follow - I used to manage a couple of forums, so speaking from experience.
My strong vote is for a WP7 forum and a separate WP8 forum
Win_XP said:
Long live HD2 - just waiting for Windows Phone 8 to be ported
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Yes but why are you waiting for WP8 to be ported ? I am genuinely interested to know what you think you'll get from WP8 that you don't already have in WP7
One thing i'd like to see is the return of direct contacts syncing via usb . Although im not holding my breath
Even Apple itards can sync their phone with outlook
HD2 is the king!
Hehe,I hope our HD2 can update to wp8.In fact i like the mag2.0.1 batter than this.
well our phone has just been amazing knowing that the past three years there have been major developments improving our phone's ability. Thanks to the devs android, WP7, ubuntu is now possible (and meego well almost) but MS has just relased windows phone 8 for development and it has many potential features like native code and external slot features, mango apps are even compatible..
So now I wonder (what DFT have to say about this) could this new OS be possibly ported in our device? what do you guys think?
They are saying that existing phones won't be upgraded...are there real technical limitations in play here? If the new "shared core" of Win8/Windows Phone 8 just doesn't support the hardware we have, then I'm not sure there is much hope. Maybe an expert can weigh in here...
At a minimum we can probably get WP7.8, but that's literally the new start screen and nothing else from what I gather.
Apparently all WP7 devices will be upgraded. If this is true we might see a WP8 ROM.
keller112 said:
Apparently all WP7 devices will be upgraded. If this is true we might see a WP8 ROM.
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Microsoft said that's not the case.
I feel sorry for those who brought the Lumia 900 for $700ish (aud) which just got released here (Australia) and now they can't get Apollo.
old windows phones will get an upgrade but its called 7.8 not 8. i'm guessing there's a hardware limitation because there really isn't any other reason to screw over all the current windows phone owners specially lumia, but then again Microsoft said wp7 is not compatible with hd2 ...
MTN_HD2 said:
old windows phones will get an upgrade but its called 7.8 not 8. i'm guessing there's a hardware limitation because there really isn't any other reason to screw over all the current windows phone owners specially lumia, but then again Microsoft said wp7 is not compatible with hd2 ...
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Essentially WP7.8 will be WP8 minus the hardware-specific features such as the multi-core support and the NFC things. From what I've heard it will have exactly the same UI everywhere else.
based on the specs of HTC Rio, I could say WP8 is possible for our phones!
Nigeldg said:
Essentially WP7.8 will be WP8 minus the hardware-specific features such as the multi-core support and the NFC things. From what I've heard it will have exactly the same UI everywhere else.
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It will just be like a WP8 theme for WP7. WP7.8 won't run any WP8 apps at all.
drmodify said:
based on the specs of HTC Rio, I could say WP8 is possible for our phones!
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HTC Rio uses a Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor while the HD2 only has a Snapdragon S1. I would worry that the WP8 user experience might not be so good on the old Snapdragon S1. However, I think the bigger obstacle is WP8 is supposed to require DirectX10 while the HD2 GPU is an Adreno 200 which only supports DirectX9.
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It will just be like a WP8 theme for WP7. WP7.8 won't run any WP8 apps at all.
HTC Rio uses a Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor while the HD2 only has a Snapdragon S1. I would worry that the WP8 user experience might not be so good on the old Snapdragon S1. However, I think the bigger obstacle is WP8 is supposed to require DirectX10 while the HD2 GPU is an Adreno 200 which only supports DirectX9.
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yeah that will be the problem but I think there will be ways to circumvent it just like the touch drivers for the WP7. In general I see it with minor set backs in speed but it would be functional
drmodify said:
yeah that will be the problem but I think there will be ways to circumvent it just like the touch drivers for the WP7. In general I see it with minor set backs in speed but it would be functional
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That would be great, I guess I will hold onto my HD2 until someone like Cotulla says it can or can not be done.
Not to break your heart but to clear your mind
Well here's the evidence we needed for HD2
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So to some of the users that still have questions about Windows Phone 8 on our HD2:
There are no drivers for the windows 8 kernel available. Also Secure Boot for the WinRT kernel might pose issues
We only made it this far because WP7 is based on the WinCE kernel (as Windows Mobile was), the similairity with the HTC HD7 and beta drivers were maybe developed for platform development/testing purposes back in 2009/2010
After sticking with the HD2 for about 3 years and actively updating, I think a Windows 8 device will be my next upgrade.
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!
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the verdict:
WP7.8 Possible
WP8: not possible
any helpful intellectual inputs on this guys?
To add some hope though
check this out! look at paragraph 3!
Microsoft’s senior marketing manager for Windows Phone, Greg Sullivan, says that it's not impossible to port WP8 on older devices, but the cost of doing that would be very high and the benefit very little
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So I guess there is some hope afterall, mods will decide on this :good:
drmodify said:
Well here's the evidence we needed for HD2
the verdict:
WP7.8 Possible
WP8: not possible
any helpful intellectual inputs on this guys?
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Well, I never heard of "kid1988", but I don't get around much. Is he a reputable source of tech info like Cotulla?
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Well, I never heard of "kid1988", but I don't get around much. Is he a reputable source of tech info like Cotulla?
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he's not a mod but a long time HD2 experienced user. You can check his profile out but for me he seems legit. Anyway the good thing is there still is hope
I see. Kid1988 might know his stuff, and I mean no offense to him when I say this, but I will wait till the HD2 guru master Cotulla says WP8 is a no-go. After all, he was the one that brought WP7 to the HD2 and knows how to write custom SPLs and bootloaders.
drmodify said:
check this out! look at paragraph 3!
So I guess there is some hope afterall, mods will decide on this :good:
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WP8 enables multi-core support, higher resolution screens, NFC, microSD card support and so on
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This alone would be reason to port WP8. I guess if there will be MicroSD support, this would mean that the cards wouldn't be encrypted, and would make things for WP+SD Android users much, much easier. There wouldn't be so much partitioning and stuff involved.