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Should I sell my HD2 and buy a N900?

I really like the design and specs of the HD2, but Windows Mobile makes it very buggy and unreliable :/ Since the new ROM-update didn't fix the sms-problem I need to return my HD2 and buy a new working phone, that can send smses without problems. Does anyone have any experience with the N900 and any cons/pros vs the HD2?

kasperknop said:
I really like the design and specs of the HD2, but Windows Mobile makes it very buggy and unreliable :/ Since the new ROM-update didn't fix the sms-problem I need to return my HD2 and buy a new working phone, that can send smses without problems. Does anyone have any experience with the N900 and any cons/pros vs the HD2?
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I had a chance to play with the N900. I must say it's awesome

My N900 should arrive in about a week, if you can wait I'll compare it to my HD2 for you....

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My N900 should arrive in about a week, if you can wait I'll compare it to my HD2 for you....
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Thanks mate =)

I'm also looking forward to your comparison
Is the resistive touchscreen a no go? I'm not sure, but everybody says that capacitive touchscreens are much much better.
I got my HD2 form eXpansys but I'll send it back. It's so buggy and my battery is the worst. I only lasts about 6 to 8 hours, and that's when I'm at work. So I'm doingt pretty much nothing with it...

N900 screen is nice, since you have the option of using a stylus or finger. Some Flash sites have smaller icons, so the stylus function is nice. This also comes handy for mouse function in Flash games.
I have about 200 Flash games saved to my N900 and launch through the file manager. A LOT of Flash games play very well launching them this way.

Resistive screen requiring a stylus? No multi-touch or pinch zoom support? A 3.5" screen instead of 4.3"? 600mhz processor instead of 1ghz?
No thanks, I'll stick to my HD2 if that's ok and I suggest you do the same.

rushless said:
N900 screen is nice, since you have the option of using a stylus or finger.
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It's a resistive screen so while your finger might work if you press it a certain way (I can get my three year old O2 Orbit to work with my finger too), it's designed to be used with a stylus and comes with all the limitations that implies.

I got the chance to play around with the N900 for a few minutes, I don't regret getting the HD2.
Didn't like the OS, not that WM is any better, but HTC did an excellent job with Sense UI.

Should I sell my HD2 and buy a N900?
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ONLY if you prefer resistive screens.
Maemo is certainly not better than Windows Mobile at all and has its own shortcomings, just like any mobile OS.

kasperknop said:
I really like the design and specs of the HD2, but Windows Mobile makes it very buggy and unreliable :/ Since the new ROM-update didn't fix the sms-problem I need to return my HD2 and buy a new working phone, that can send smses without problems. Does anyone have any experience with the N900 and any cons/pros vs the HD2?
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If you hate the HTC Messaging not being able to handle too many smses you can use this hack to disable it and use standard WM 6.5 SMS interface - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614&page=1

Kasperknop,
If you really want to know what the Nokia is like why don't you post on a Nokia forum? You will get more opinions there from those that have used/owned the device but perhaps no less bias than you would get on here.
To be honest, if you are that keen then I would walk into a phone shop and handle a real one. It is the only way to work out whether you can live with a device or not.
Hope this helps.
WB

Just this minute got email, my N900 has shipped! I'll post up thoughts when its in my hands, I have no particular bias for either Nokia or HTC...

nokia 900
If you can live with an small screen is fine, according to me the screen of the nokia 900 is exactly the same size of the N97.
I have one N97 is fine for many things but for webrawsing is a pain in the neck http://www.symbiansoftware.us/bin/ci/o/11631.jpg

maati said:
ONLY if you prefer resistive screens.
Maemo is certainly not better than Windows Mobile at all and has its own shortcomings, just like any mobile OS.
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i was going to go for the n900 but the tech specs put me off compared to hd2, then i found outs resistive with no multi touch, a complete joke, nokia are way behind and the device itself is huge compared to the hd2,

i have my HD2 since last friday trough insurance of my old dead Xperia X1, going to test the N900 next wednesday at a friends phone shop
will compare it couse im thinking about switching as well, ill post my findings

check out gsmarena.com they have a long review on the n900 seems good but does have limitations like no voice dialing which may not be a big thing for most people but more importantly no mms ability as a result of maemo not supporting it

mndl632 said:
check out gsmarena.com they have a long review on the n900 seems good but does have limitations like no voice dialing which may not be a big thing for most people but more importantly no mms ability as a result of maemo not supporting it
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but maybe it offers reliable SMS communication? a trade off I would be willing to take in a heartbeat

Its getting MMS and more widespread portrait operation in an update arriving Dec/Jan...

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but maybe it offers reliable SMS communication? a trade off I would be willing to take in a heartbeat
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Just disable HTC Messaging on the HD2 and you get 100% reliable SMS communication.

I need advice

Hello everyone!
I need a piece of advice. I want to replace my Blackstone, to buy a new phone and I'm hesitating! If I was to buy a WM device, I would surely buy the Leo, since it appears to me that it's the best one, what's more, it will have an official upgrade to WM 7!
But I'm wavering because I saw pictures of the Sony X10 which seems also very nice. Both of them have capacitive screens, but won't be multitouch till they get their upgrade (to WM7 for Leo and to Android 2.0 for X10), they both have snapdragon, but none of them have an AMOLED screen.
So the question is, if I'm used to WM, will I like Android? Are there enough applications? Games? etc
Another question also, is the HD2 like the HD? I mean, do they have great hardware but no drivers to use it?
Thank you for your answers!

I think this is again, a bit of apples and oranges comparison because of the OS. You have thrown in though some of the points I would question as well. The biggest point was with the WM7 coming through the pipes and whether Android and the X10's new features are enough to bring you across.
Again for me, I'm still more excited about the HD2 because in a way, it's like buying two different phones in one. In the sense, you are getting the best of today's 6.5 right now and since it's upgradable to WM7, it will feel like a completely new phone again by the end of the year. Keep in mind as well the HD2 is good to go now with HDSPL and cooked roms. The X10 hasn't even made it out of the gate yet.
At this point, those who chose the X10 are all wishing they went the HD2 route because by then, the X10 has become boring now. All phones slowly get boring as we all went the latest stuff when it comes out. THE HD2 Gives you that.....Now and Later.
Hope this helped...

If you want AMOLED go for the OMNIA 2.I heard it is a great display.
And yes the HD2 has the same DRIVERS issue.I mean great harware and no drivers.

If you want AMOLED go for the OMNIA 2.I heard it is a great display.
And yes the HD2 has the same DRIVERS issue.I mean great harware and no drivers.
Sorry about the second post.
Some computer issues.

You might want to check Google phone Nexus One - HTC's first AMOLED with Snapdragon and Android...

I know about the Nexus One, but I don't like it because it has a resistive screen, right? so it won't have multitouch, even with a software upgrade!

Ok, it seems like I was wrong ^^
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/surprise-surprise-htcs-euro-spec-nexus-one-does-multitouch/
So, now, I'm also considering the Nexus One as a good candidate ^^

If Windows Mobile 7 Was Properly Ported Onto HTC HD2 Would It Be The Same As HTC HD7?

I have had my HTC HD2 for around 5-6 months now. Though I'm happy with it and it has exceeded my expectations, I was thinking of upgrading it to WM7 when it's finally ported for the HD2.
What I would love to know is if the HD2 indeed had WM7 ported for it, would it run the SAME as it would on HTC HD7?
Reason I ask this is because I was planning on selling my HD2 and get the HD7.
However, both phones have the SAME screen size, same 1ghz processor, same ram & same 5mp camera, the HD7 only being 720p.
Why should I sell my old HD2 to buy the new one which is the SAME spec?
That is why I was asking if WM7 was ported onto the HD2, would it:
- Run as quick?
- Responsive, fast & smooth
- If it really will be ported, when can we expect the first rom or when should it be made for HD2

I am sure sooner or later wp7 will be cracked and ported for HD2. So we will have the same device with HD7 except the looks. Also we have some more hard buttons as an extra

Its not the same.....
It might be a very similar spec but the actual components will differ.
No ported OS will ever run as smoothly as it would on its intended device....
If you want a dedicated WP7 then you'll have to get one not wait for a port.

The fact that it is a user-made port, most likely running off SD card will mean it may be a little more sluggish than something designed natively for, and run natively on, a different device.
That's assuming the problems using Live services are overcome too

conantroutman said:
Its not the same.....
It might be a very similar spec but the actual components will differ.
No ported OS will ever run as smoothly as it would on its intended device....
If you want a dedicated WP7 then you'll have to get one not wait for a port.
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Doh that's what I thought!
Well I hope at least if a port does take place, it will perform almost as good as it does on the HD7, but we have to wait and see first when one is made and how it performs.

the camera is capable of 720p it lacks drivers

From my understanding as of right now. The phone will boot into WP7 but it will not have any live application functionality. Meaning the live hubs will not work so no it will not work just like a HD7.

I personally cannot understand the hardware choices they made for WP7. They are all the same spec as the HD2, and personally I'm not shelling out $500ish for the equivalent of a Software upgrade. I'd get all your use out of the HD2 first and wait for the next Hardware generation, unless WP7 really is a big deal for you.
Personally, as a big WinMob fan, I'm now running Android on my HD2, and worryingly I might not come back to MS. Android is exceeding all my expectations, and with no upgrade path to WP7, it's beginning to win my heart, despite my slight mistrust of Google.
If WP7 does come to HD2, the big problem now does appear to be the use of Live Services. Maybe Microsoft may soon relent and sell genuine Licence Keys (there's no sign of that - it's just my wish), but until then you'll probably be locked out of them.

I have had many phones: MDA, Wing, Omnia I900, Iphone 3G and now the HTC HD2. I have Android on my HD2 and use it all the time. Only reboot back into WM every so often.
Why would I or anyone else want WM7? I can make my phone look like WM7, an iPhone, etc. Do looks really matter? Every OS has it advantages and disadvantages.
Android apps are plentiful, cheap and very good. Does WM7 have as many apps?
Do I loose a little (whatever) using Android on my HD2? If I do I don't know what.
Should I buy a new Android phone? What would I gain?
Lets be realistic. The phone companies just love to put out new phones with minor tweeks so us 'suckers' keep them in business. Where does it end?
Personally I can see buying new, if there is that much more bang for the buck. Otherwise, get the value out of what you have. In IT what you buy today is always a day behind what comes out tomorrow.
JMHO!

i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.

anhyeuemmaimai said:
i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.
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I accually hate WP7 interface and software. Really. This is my personal opinion.

anhyeuemmaimai said:
i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.
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I couldn't agree with you more.

Cause of interest in wp7, I read many tests and user ratings and played with it a time. After all I would buy myself an iPhone( I hate it ) instead of any wp7 phones. Its the same rubbish like iOS but for iPhone you can get more funny and useless apps . Also if you like a fast and smooth UI, WM6.5 or Android would be a better choice. wp7 will not allow to be really individual with your phone...all phones are the same hardware in other shells with same unchangeable UI. There are many more disadvantages...you should may inform yourself one more time.
But when you already know all of this there is no chance to help you

ike2903 said:
Cause of interest in wp7, I read many tests and user ratings and played with it a time. After all I would buy myself an iPhone( I hate it ) instead of any wp7 phones. Its the same rubbish like iOS but for iPhone you can get more funny and useless apps . Also if you like a fast and smooth UI, WM6.5 or Android would be a better choice. wp7 will not allow to be really individual with your phone...all phones are the same hardware in other shells with same unchangeable UI. There are many more disadvantages...you should may inform yourself one more time.
But when you already know all of this there is no chance to help you
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How are people saying WinMo and Android have faster smoother UI. That is false

Thanks everyone for your input, views and opinions.
As some have said, htc just want us to shell out another $500 just to get wm7 which may or may not be worth it since it does have the same hardware as the current htc hd2 and as it's new, there is a lot less software/apps & with regards to compatability, many existing apps for windows mobile 6.5 will not work with wm7.
Since this is the case, maybe there is no point in even upgrading to wm7 or buying a wm7 phone...
Anyway my other phone is the HTC Desire HD running android 2.2 froyo so I have the best of both.

well ! when phone 7 will be ported to HD2 microsoft will release wino 8 lol!

kanej2006 said:
I have had my HTC HD2 for around 5-6 months now. Though I'm happy with it and it has exceeded my expectations, I was thinking of upgrading it to WM7 when it's finally ported for the HD2.
What I would love to know is if the HD2 indeed had WM7 ported for it, would it run the SAME as it would on HTC HD7?
Reason I ask this is because I was planning on selling my HD2 and get the HD7.
However, both phones have the SAME screen size, same 1ghz processor, same ram & same 5mp camera, the HD7 only being 720p.
Why should I sell my old HD2 to buy the new one which is the SAME spec?
That is why I was asking if WM7 was ported onto the HD2, would it:
- Run as quick?
- Responsive, fast & smooth
- If it really will be ported, when can we expect the first rom or when should it be made for HD2
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First of all everything the hd7 has the hd2 has the only major change from the devices is that they added a kickstand.
I for one think that if the hd7 has same hardware as hd2 then running wp7 on hd2 shouldn't really be a difference. In a matter of fact the hd2 runs android well compared to other android devices that were made to run it.

OP, I think you should stay with the HD2. I'd rather have the ability to run four different operating systems (relatively well) than run a single system slightly better.

anhyeuemmaimai said:
i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.
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Indeed. As a matter of fact, i just recently bought an HD2. not full price, less than 300 euros for a brand new unusued unscratched device with 1 y warranty.
I knew very well that W7 was coming out, even that the HD7 was soon to be out. But its the same phone. I like having extra buttons (hate 100% touch phones.. i like to press something when it becomes unresponsive ). I like Winmobile, even if people say its ****. I like my collection of CAB files.
I like HD2. I like 6.5.
i dont like the new presentation of the phone on W7.. plus the apps will be slow to launch etc etc. If u really wanna upgrade, do it in a years time, get ur phone 50% off

AinsCrowbar said:
OP, I think you should stay with the HD2. I'd rather have the ability to run four different operating systems (relatively well) than run a single system slightly better.
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That's VERY true. I have indeed tried android on the hd2, it was responsive, quick & reliable.
When you see android running for the first time on your hd2, you smile and think to yourself ''how cool'' I got android on a phone meant to run windows.
Anyway, I will keep my hd2 for now...

So what is the Next BIG THING after Leo HD2?

Leo HD2 was a BIG hit and generated the most popular and posted forum here at XDA. That was until the big BOOM when HTC, Samsung, et al started to introduce the endless variants of the same device (or mediocre upgrade with a slightly different shell) resulting today with the overly populated XDA today.
HD2 is the only device here on XDA with the most Subforum: WM, Android, Ubuntu, WP7, and MeeGo.
My question is what and when is the next “BIG THING?” Or has it already happened? Was it an EVO3D? Where are all the new DEVELOPERS flocking to? I am NOT talking about Chefs; I am talking about people who make contributions to the future of a device.
Come on guys, get real, what other device have had this potential and strong development community! I mean, HD2 got Gingerbread way before official ROMs even rolled out to other native android devices.
So, what and when is the next “BIG THING?”
*Mods feel free to move this thread if not location valid.

Awaiting HTC ETERNITY

lemonspeakers said:
Leo HD2 was a BIG hit and generated the most popular and posted forum here at XDA. That was until the big BOOM when HTC, Samsung, et al started to introduce the endless variants of the same device (or mediocre upgrade with a slightly different shell) resulting today with the overly populated XDA today.
HD2 is the only device here on XDA with the most Subforum: WM, Android, Ubuntu, WP7, and MeeGo.
My question is what and when is the next “BIG THING?” Or has it already happened? Was it an EVO3D? Where are all the new DEVELOPERS flocking to? I am NOT talking about Chefs; I am talking about people who make contributions to the future of a device.
Come on guys, get real, what other device have had this potential and strong development community! I mean, HD2 got Gingerbread way before official ROMs even rolled out to other native android devices.
So, what and when is the next “BIG THING?”
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totaly agree.

Yeah!
You tell me and I'll but it :-D I just love my HD2! I actually sold it many times, but had to get one again after a while, couldn't stay away hehe. Mostly it was because of all the great people in here kept developing stuff for it!
Thanks guys for making this phone EPIC! XDA made HD2 full fill it's potential.

The real answere is: HD2
End of game for all...

i think the hd2 phenomenon happened due to the following favorable circumstances:
- at the time of its launch it was (and still is) the best wm device and also had superior hardware compared to anything else on the market (for example, the best android device was the htc hero...) - this attracted a large number of developers and users alike
- the htc android phones coming afterwards shared almost the same hardware (nexus one, desire) - this (+ the fact that android is open source) made things much easier for developers and we had the 1st succesful android port very quickly. from then on, the development exploded...
- similarily, the htc hd7 shares similar hardware to our hd2 and the developers managed to port also wp7
- the involvement of cotulla & dft - all the important steps in the development bare their name: hspl, porting android, magldr, porting wp7
regarding a possible succesor to the throne ruled by our hd2, i must admit i'm rather skeptical. the market is very diversified now with many great devices to choose which divides the developers too much...
however, my next phone will be a dual core (most probably htc or samsung) but i will wait for dft to see which model they choose...

the next big thing? hmm good question, would it be too much to ask for a 4.2" device with many finger multi touch, 32 bit display, 1024MB ROM 1024MB RAM ill keep the 5MP camera but i want propper optics on it, perhaps a 28mm or 32mm lense 12MP is pointless without optics to match, not too fussed about the CPU or GPU as the HD2 does a damn good job so whatever CPU is around, oh and something that quite easy to SPL unlock, it would need to run WM and WP too
So im guessing that just an HD2+ then
If i ever win the lottery, im gonna see how much HTC would charge to make me one
in all seriousness, there isnt anything that would significantly upshow the HD2 just now, the HD7 does a good job but its essentially the same thing, something new will need to be released, my guess is whatever the successor to the HD7 is will take the crown, so long as its unlockable

Im still waiting on my dream phone.. non of the new phones out there impress me as much as the hd2 did when it came out thats why im still stuck with my lovely hd2. What we need is manufactures to stop doing small steps (only draining our wallets) we need:
1. flexible transparent screens (its been created over 5yrs ago)
2. 8megapixel cam or higher
3. Samsung Xynos processor (2GHz) or something similar.
4.Windows phone 7 os (once its fully developed) we all know it needs to mature more to be the king.

I hope its a Nokia WP7 device...
HTC has gone into garbage mode...having produced 30 phones with similar specs and designs...with dumbdroid mainly.
I really hope its a Nokia...mainly because I'm absolutely tired of HTC's poor reception, poor battery life, crappy imaging lenses and terrible customer support...all things Nokia excels at.

Next big thing is Windows 8 Arm Edition on the HD2.

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I hope its a Nokia WP7 device...
HTC has gone into garbage mode...having produced 30 phones with similar specs and designs...with dumbdroid mainly.
I really hope its a Nokia...mainly because I'm absolutely tired of HTC's poor reception, poor battery life, crappy imaging lenses and terrible customer support...all things Nokia excels at.
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HTC Costomer service has always treated me well. Three diff times i've been pleased with it. And its not as though samsung phones get great batt life. friend had a Vibrant and the batt life was terrible. Kind of a lemon in that regard (and some others) and yet i know other Samsung phones are better. What, are you going to buy an LG? haha. our beloved suffers from a rediculously huge screen and thats partially to blame. That and the fact most people forget, on WM this thing got great batt life. And thats what it was made for. With these new processors, things should get better. Got to agree with you on the camera thing though
Definitely waiting on the Eternity Thing is beastly!!!!
Or a nice Nokia in Q4 sounds good.

The next big thing is already there. It's called the Galaxy S II.
Fastest Proc, Most RAM, Fastest GPU, thinnest/lightest phone, best touch input sensor, most internal Memory, biggest/longest lasting battery, screen only rivalled by the HTC Sensation.
This of course doesnt mean it will become as big as the HD2 but it has the most potential at the moment.
As for the HD2: Nobody at the time could predict that the HD2 would become such a huge modding succes. If Microsoft had decided to not base their WP7 on the same CPU, there would be no WP7 on this device.
If HTC hadn't brought the Desire/N1 with near-indentical hardware specs, Android on this thing would be a lot less functional. Meego and Ubuntu are nice (The letter being functional on virtually any mid/high-end android device at the moment and the former being dead at any rate)
At the moment the relevant OSes remain (and will remain) Android, iOS and WP7. Since we are never going to see an iOS port to anything, you should look for a device that is based on a CPU that WP7.5 (or Mango) is optimized for (hopefully MS will upgrade from this dated proc with pathetic 3D capabilities to something more comparable to the Samsung Exynos or Apple A5).
I havent followed the rumor mill but if there is a tendency to a specific proc that is available to all producers, then the chance of getting WP7 and Android in the newest version running on any device would be on one that has this new hardware based. Since there is no such device that I am aware of right now, I would vote for the Android High-ends (the modders love the SGSII and Sensation and they will remain top of the line for at least 10 months)

I very much like this post and totally agree but you cant possible think because you have awesome specs on a phone your gonna have the next hd2...if you remember the hd2 was nice but software wise it was absolutely terrible...especially because everyone wanted android on the hardware but even then nobody knew the potential the phone would have. If back then when the phone first dropped, compared to other phone with better specs like the evo...nobody would have said..."this is the next big phone that will forever change the face of modding/rooting a phone". The community came together and made advances on that phone which were once thought impossible....all the roms started slow and sluggish...lagging until they were perfected by gifted and talented individuals. No make a long story short....u can't tell what a phone will be like based one specs...its all about the participation of devs and a lot of feedback. Trial and error.....time and dedication.
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There most likely won't be another big thing or successor to the HD2 and this is for a few reasons.
1st, the HD2 was supposed to be this awesome Windows Mobile phone that bridged the gap from WinMo to WP7. Well when they decided not to allow an upgrade path to WP7 that didn't happen. And a lot of people just weren't happy with WinMo running so horribly on such an obviously awesome phone. So a need or a demand was created and filled by devs allowing us to port Android to our HD2s.
With the market the way it is now, that's not likely to happen with so many choices available.
You've got awesome specced phones like the Evo3D, HTC Sensation, Samsung Android, Motorola Android phones. Even the new WP7 devices being released are awesome! So no one is really breaking down doors to port Android to an awesome device that runs suck ass software because most phones being released have good software. In my opinion, WP7 is awesome software that just needs a boost so if I had a phone that had it I wouldn't port anything to the device running it.
Secondly, no other phone right now can run multiple OS' like the HD2 can. Which phone runs WinMo, Android, WP7, Ubuntu, and possibly Meego? AND it can dual boot ROMs too! None and we aren't likely to see it attempted on as huge a scale as it was on the HD2! The HD2 will be the last of its kind a memento that proves to the huge corporations that if you don't do it right, someone else will and they will do it better lol.
Sad tho, cause my HD2 opened up a new world and when I move on to my next device I'm gonna miss porting ROMs on a day to day basis or on whim. I'll miss switching from Sense to a Vanilla ROM to a cyanogen ROM to WP7...
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

In my mind, the next big thing are devices like the Motorola Atrix, where the processing power and storage is phone based but can dock with a laptop workstation or tablet. Now that would be my ideal handset...

B4PJS said:
In my mind, the next big thing are devices like the Motorola Atrix, where the processing power and storage is phone based but can dock with a laptop workstation or tablet. Now that would be my ideal handset...
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People already sell their existing phones, barter, trade or do whatever they have to do to get a new or updated device...now your suppose to get a specific laptop just so u can dock it??? USB works just fine ill pass on the add on sales.....
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Seriously, i think that the next "big thing" will be the first htc with unlocked bootlader as htc said...
maybe HTC Eternity????

Never again will there be a phone.. in this and the next decade (perhaps forever?) that allowed such versatility between completely different platforms..

Personally - next big thing is ...
For me I think that the Samsung Galaxy S2 ... should be the next thing to leap to ... it is fantastic ... I have an HD2 but if i lose it or it goes bad ... I will defo buy one of them things .... It's got a 1.5 Ghz dual core cpu ..amoled2 screen ..... cameras at the front and at the back ... full framerate playback and ultra slim .... good quality camera ... battery drain is really discrete .... and the Gfx are fast and good .. runs android like a charm ... Definitely it will be a fav with all devs ...

Alcatrazx said:
For me I think that the Samsung Galaxy S2 ... should be the next thing to leap to ... it is fantastic ... I have an HD2 but if i lose it or it goes bad ... I will defo buy one of them things .... It's got a 1.5 Ghz dual core cpu ..amoled2 screen ..... cameras at the front and at the back ... full framerate playback and ultra slim .... good quality camera ... battery drain is really discrete .... and the Gfx are fast and good .. runs android like a charm ... Definitely it will be a fav with all devs ...
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http://wmpoweruser.com/category/windows-phone-7-5/
Very nice!

The next HD2

Hello everyone,
i really like the HD2, because you can flash every actual OS from Android to Ubuntu and Windows.
Does the HD2 have any special feature that it supports so many OS, or is it just that developers focused this device specially.
But now the Hardware of the HD2 is getting old. So will there be a new device which be able to be so flexible like the HD2?

+1 ... im interested too

+1 thanks!

Well,If we look back to the history of HD2 , it was born with winmo 6.5 which soon died out.For such a unique and powerful (expensive too) device to just been thrown to dustbin - it was hard for the users,so a lot of interest on how to make it survive - obviously by porting newer OSs.Once it made so , there was no look back ,even now it is one of the most interesting piece for developers.But will there be another HD2 , I don't think so.With so many smart phones in market - more powerful by day ,we will rather move on ...But HD2 development may last as long as its hardware is compatible enough...

win98 said:
Hello everyone,
i really like the HD2, because you can flash every actual OS from Android to Ubuntu and Windows.
Does the HD2 have any special feature that it supports so many OS, or is it just that developers focused this device specially.
But now the Hardware of the HD2 is getting old. So will there be a new device which be able to be so flexible like the HD2?
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hi!
i had an HD2 before, and i loved it. an i still do.
Most of us old HD2 users have upgraded to Sensation (some also to the Desire HD).
The thing is HD2 doesent have any special feature that makes it able to run different things - just a great community with the passion and drive to make all these different OS work. So what you need is a phone thats "popular", which will creat a great community as well.
Ive got the Sensation, and it got plenty of diffrent roms you can install... right now im on Android 4.0.3 with Sense 3.6 - and it runs AWESOMELY! soon we will port the new sense 4.0 also

i hope that Ubuntu would be ported to )

fulltank said:
Well,If we look back to the history of HD2 , it was born with winmo 6.5 which soon died out.For such a unique and powerful (expensive too) device to just been thrown to dustbin - it was hard for the users,so a lot of interest on how to make it survive - obviously by porting newer OSs.Once it made so , there was no look back ,even now it is one of the most interesting piece for developers.But will there be another HD2 , I don't think so.With so many smart phones in market - more powerful by day ,we will rather move on ...But HD2 development may last as long as its hardware is compatible enough...
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i think the hardware will be compatible long time. The matter is, that you cant develop a rom which will have dual core, super amoled display, better resolution, nfc, 4g and so on.
Respect for the HD2 that it could mess up so many years with any new smartphone, but i think in future this will be hard.
So, what i am going to say is, that xda, or (nearly) all developers should focus a new phone for porting rom and that stuff.
For example to wait for a new wp apollo phone, which will support multicore and higher resolution.
If it is just the focus of the developers which made the HD2 so popular, it would be great, to name a newer device as "the next HD2"
(sounds like the next uri geller^^)

I'd like to see the first WP7 dual phone become the next HD2. Most of the current WP7 phones are still single core, and while that's might be good for now, I'd rather have a dual core in my next phone, since I'd probably be using it for a good two years or so. A dual core WP7 phone+Android ports+Ubuntu ports = perfect? I think yes.

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I'd like to see the first WP7 dual phone become the next HD2. Most of the current WP7 phones are still single core, and while that's might be good for now, I'd rather have a dual core in my next phone, since I'd probably be using it for a good two years or so. A dual core WP7 phone+Android ports+Ubuntu ports = perfect? I think yes.
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yeah i want the same.
there are rumours about an hd8 with apollo.
apollo will have new res, nfc and multicore support.
i hope this phone will replace the hd2 with dignity
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Phone-Powered-HTC-HD8-Emerges-244543.shtml

I don't get it: Why would I need a dual/quadcore? My HD2 works without any lags, I can't find any difference regarding the overall userexperience compared to a SGSII etc. Are the games a main reason for the more powerful hardware?

x911 said:
I don't get it: Why would I need a dual/quadcore? My HD2 works without any lags, I can't find any difference regarding the overall userexperience compared to a SGSII etc. Are the games a main reason for the more powerful hardware?
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Well mine does as well, I'm on ICS and underclocked actually, to 768 Mhz and it's smooth. However, I want to be able to play some more intensive games [ like GTAIII] and whatnot without having to used a dumbed down data for it. Also, while it's not that big a deal for me, it would be kinda nice to be able to play back 1080p video. But for now, my HD2 is still awesome; I have a friend with a Droid X 2 and one with a Droid 3, and there's nothing they can do with their 2011 phone I can't do on my 2009 phone!
win98 said:
yeah i want the same.
there are rumours about an hd8 with apollo.
apollo will have new res, nfc and multicore support.
i hope this phone will replace the hd2 with dignity
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Phone-Powered-HTC-HD8-Emerges-244543.shtml
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I'm starting my reading up on the skills needed for Android developing, I really wanna take part in making the 'next HD2' as awesome as the current one!

HTC Edge/Endeavour will surely be the next developers phone, no?

I doubt there will ever be such a phone again. The industry is consolidating around two OSs (Android and iOS). Windows Phone has an outside chance of becoming relevant again next year.
I say keep your HD2 going until the Edge/Endeavor comes along. I've got the new Galaxy Nexus and, I must say, the experience of Ice Cream Sandwich on my HD2 is not much different to the Galaxy Nexus with its dual cores. Wait just a little bit longer.

Dont what ever any of you do sell your HD2's I sold mine about a year ago and have been through copious Windows phones, Android Phones even Iphones...nothing comes close to the diversity of this phone, I miss the ability to switch from Android to WP...
The community and development is second to none.
I currently us a Galaxy s2, OK the development is very good for Android Roms, OK its got an amazing screen and very powerful, but really never feels like I am in control of what it can do, I would love to try the WP7.5 but would hate to be restricted to just one operating system, they are all boring after a while, the HD2 allows you so much more

+ 1 from me. HD2 is unique. I love it as it is a member of my family...

THUDUK said:
Dont what ever any of you do sell your HD2's I sold mine about a year ago and have been through copious Windows phones, Android Phones even Iphones...nothing comes close to the diversity of this phone, I miss the ability to switch from Android to WP...
The community and development is second to none.
I currently us a Galaxy s2, OK the development is very good for Android Roms, OK its got an amazing screen and very powerful, but really never feels like I am in control of what it can do, I would love to try the WP7.5 but would hate to be restricted to just one operating system, they are all boring after a while, the HD2 allows you so much more
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ive moved to the galaxy note and have kept the hd2 but wouldnt even entertain using it now, unless something happens to the note
main purpose is that it works, unlike on the hd2 where something dont work or are slow to work due to non native driver support, the devs are fantastic in what they have done for the device, but im actually glad im not swapping/updating roms every week