[Q] Defy+ (Buy or not buy?) - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys ... I have a enormous doubt! I want a smartphone fast, tough, different. which can get in the water. And that is not too expensive!
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Researched and the best I found was the Moto Defy +. I want the opinion of you about this phone, remembering that I live in Brazil and here the network is GSM.
What you have to say? Thank you in advance.

arthur.uba said:
Hello guys ... I have a enormous doubt! I want a smartphone fast, tough, different. which can get in the water. And that is not too expensive!
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Researched and the best I found was the Moto Defy +. I want the opinion of you about this phone, remembering that I live in Brazil and here the network is GSM.
What you have to say? Thank you in advance.
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You are asking your question in a Defy forum,
How much are you paying and what other phones are available to you at a similar price?
Defy is now a 2-3 year old phone, but can run latest Android JellyBean although not supported by Motorola.
It is a fairly fast device (once bloatware is removed), but newer devices are much faster.
It is very tough and water resistant.
Don't know about "different". What do you mean by "different"?

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You are asking your question in a Defy forum,
How much are you paying and what other phones are available to you at a similar price?
Defy is now a 2-3 year old phone, but can run latest Android JellyBean although not supported by Motorola.
It is a fairly fast device (once bloatware is removed), but newer devices are much faster.
It is very tough and water resistant.
Don't know about "different". What do you mean by "different"?
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Thinking the side of years. you're right! But I live in a third world country. Today's phones are expensive here!
"Different" in the sense of something new. For me the phone is looking good. I have no intention of upgrading the android, unless they can prove that it is better to upgrade. My intentions are the basics, put some games some applications, customize it my way and uses it quite in the pool.
So I asked the opinions of people who know better the phone than me. This mobile can offer me what I want?

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arthur.uba said:
Thinking the side of years. you're right! But I live in a third world country. Today's phones are expensive here!
"Different" in the sense of something new. For me the phone is looking good. I have no intention of upgrading the android, unless they can prove that it is better to upgrade. My intentions are the basics, put some games some applications, customize it my way and uses it quite in the pool.
So I asked the opinions of people who know better the phone than me. This mobile can offer me what I want?
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Brazil being a third world country? what the F are you talking about? what ossie says is true, defy is a great mobile but now there are other better options, like the galaxy ace 2, or the s plus even the s3 mini comes in a acquirable price, besides the "normal" defy mb525 (red lenses) is cheaper and has the same defy+ hardware. About the defy's water resistance... I don't know, never have tried it, but some people says it does resist, others have had bad experiences with water. I would say, compare those other's prices and features, and choose as you will

first of all, the Defy/+ is very durable. I'd say that there is no other phone out there that is waterproof and durable like the Defy. It's true though that it is "old" and the Hardware is not up to date anymore.
There are other phone that are also dust and water-resitant like the Sony Acro S. You might wanna check that one out. It's not as durable as the defy though but its hardware is much better.

I've bough my defy like 2 months ago and I'm glad I didnt buy Galaxy S. The phone is awesome. You can play games, talk while its raining and u've got no umbrella (it happened to me once) without even care ur phone will be a crap after that.

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[Q] What would you replace your X10 with?

And here goes the debate: "Which would be your logical replacement for your Xperia X10"!
Of course we all know that we have a phone that was released some time ago, and in technological standards it is an "oldie but Goldie". I am thinking I had a fair deal with my X10, which is why I will probably use it for quite some time until my tech-bug hits the necessity of the newest available (and cheap) advances in smartphones. This is where all the ppl here which not only have one, but 2 or more smartphones, come in. You obvious better knowledge of the latest and greatest gives my room to confide in your opinion, and taking in consideration that the region I am at, has only recently been taking in the possibility of getting 4G through Claro, a latin provider of such technologies, maybe we can still settle for the sluggish 3.5G (although I admit it must be a thrill to have 100Mbit/s or even 1Gbit/s soaring on my handset), as long as what I have in hand is a Gargantuan of the Smartphone arena.
Things I would take in account:
Screen size: I like to scroll through music on my X10, which is fun, especially when it helps you with that unknown tune that you never studied, but since you sightread, might give you all you need to know before showtime. 3.7+ screens with the highest resolutions possible
Processing speed: THE MUST, the faster the merrier!
Software Support: Although that is settled with XDA (and other places that have great devs, sadly not working together with xda in some cases), the latest updates are magnificent to have
Connectivity: Because not only 4G (which in Panama might start being a bit expensive), but WIFI and BT, plus the connectables, you know!
Sturdiness: Yes, the X10 lacks it... today my mom let my x10 go to the ground... CONNECTED! I spent 2 hours trying to fix the microUSB to be able to charge, which finally happened... but some other models have Titanium/Vibranium/Adamantium/WillNotBreakium/Lastforeverium covering plus a protective 7-point Barrier Chakra enchantment and Harry Potter type seals, plus Legolas, Aragorn and Gandalf protecting it... what I mean is, Si vis pacem, parabellum (to seek peace, prepare for war), and maybe you are going to be super protective with your baby, but one can't be so sure!
Last but not least
Price: Hey, technology is getting cheaper every day, not saying flea-market prices, but at least affordable enough when buying without a data/call plan, since I work independently, is not going to put a hole in my economy, plus it will last a long time before getting outdated... yeah, too much to ask, but I'm putting it out there for analysis
Bring in your opinions and advices! All are welcome!
Is this really the right place for this discussion? if it's about replacing the X10, it's not about the X10.
I am getting a Nokia N9.
In the Android world, I'd get a Galaxy S II.
arg0 said:
Is this really the right place for this discussion? if it's about replacing the X10, it's not about the X10.
I am getting a Nokia N9.
In the Android world, I'd get a Galaxy S II.
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Yikes... is there a place for a post like GENERAL ANDROID PHONE? If so, I don't mind if my thread is put in the right place; just thought since I speak of the X10 as my CURRENT main phone, I was wondering the people's opinion on which would be the best replacement for it, me being a current happy user, only wanting to upgrade to something that would be mostly like it, only just... well... newer?
you forgot hdmi port
i think HTC Sensation 4G is probably best of wait for Sony's Dual core phone !! probably my next from ny 1 of those !!! :-D
well, i will probably get next Nexus phone ( if it's quadcore ) or Samsung galaxy 3
Presume Iphone 5 (4s), my contract with t-mobile ends in December, so I assume i'll be offered iphone
Already replaced mine with a sensation, thnx to SE for their broken Yang connectors. My usb broke 5 times till now
VIPER
I love Galaxy S2
IMO i'm not going to change the x10 until it dies. it provides me all the functionality i need from a phone (mind that, phone) for now. it has it's role to play, and it has delivered its purpose.
i'm going to get a tegra 3 tablet be it android/windows 8 for other demanding tasks and portable gaming. i can get all my connectivity from the phone, saving me the need for a 3G enabled tablet. saves a lot.
Samsung Galaxy S II, LG Optimus 3d.
Or just the SE Xperia X10, it is fabulous and lovely regardless of SE ****.
Samsung Galaxy S II but still loving Wolf's ROM so yeah gonna take a while before I change
he said a cheaper phone... the last time i checked it, the galaxy s 2 was the most expensive one...
The cheapest smartphone plan here in Canada is $50/month =(. Looks like imma be stuck with my X10 for a while.
Probably a Google phone so I would always get updates or the xperia arc of course. No one makes phones like Sony with all the social entertainment
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SGS II caused of the screen
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Processing speed: THE MUST, the faster the merrier!
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I'd say dual-core is the bare minimum to settle for these days. Dual-core phones are still the minority, but they really are the way of the future, and it's immediately noticeable on system performance when you start having multiple things going at once.
JazzLOCO said:
Software Support: Although that is settled with XDA (and other places that have great devs, sadly not working together with xda in some cases), the latest updates are magnificent to have
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As great as XDA is (it's been absolutely the saving grace for the X10), I'd say company history of timely updates is very important. That knocks anything from SE out for the running for me (their promises with their newer phones are good, but I'd take the wait-and-see approach before giving considering them after the mess they made of updating the X10).
JazzLOCO said:
Price: Hey, technology is getting cheaper every day, not saying flea-market prices, but at least affordable enough when buying without a data/call plan, since I work independently, is not going to put a hole in my economy, plus it will last a long time before getting outdated... yeah, too much to ask, but I'm putting it out there for analysis
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Not sure what qualifies as affordable in Panama, but by your requirements you couldn't even buy a new X10 here in Canada for a "affordable" price without signing a new contract (it's $499.99 to buy one outright).
With all that said, I just got the HTC EVO 3D on Monday. It satisfies all my requirements - dual-core, full multi-touch, ample (1GB) RAM, Gingerbread. Only cost $149.99, but that was with a 3 years contract renewal.
well i already have the HTC HD2, which runs android flawlessly. The only thing is it doesn't look/feel as nice as the X10.
If the xperia DUO appears to be real i am concidering it, i always loved the stability in SE software, even if updates takes a little longer some times and i really like the camera quality of the X10 and Arc.
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samsung galaxy s2 by far...
nothing else at the moment can compare

User opinion

Most of you are going to hate me for this, but someone had to say it.
After using the X5 for a few months, I've decided it's time to move on. Paid $300 for the phone at a retail shop and managed to sell it for $200...so I've lost some money, but I've learned something: NEVER HUAWEI AGAIN
The overall performance of the phone was good, perhaps better than most phones, but it was one of the most unreliable phones I've every had (comparable to the old Nokia 6600, promising a lot but delivering nothing properly).
From the day 1, when I first powered it up and until the day I've sold it, i've been expecting it to reboot or to do something weird. I never wanted a custom Rom or anything like that, but I had to try EVERYTHING with the hope that it will fixes the bugs.
This phone is for people with huge amount of free time and the willing to risk bricking the phone for any little thing...
Some of the bugs (crappy Bluetooth, mic issues, low volume in calls, spontaneous reboots, crappy wi-fi, not going to sleep properly etc) were partially solved by amazing developers like Dzo, Genokolar and Stockwell. They are the only reason why I didn't sell the phone long time ago, so thank you guys. A bit of advice for you tho, stop wasting time on the X5, it's not worth it.
I got an HTC Inc S now and I can telly you this: for approx $150 more, you get EVERYTHING working and 2.3 stock rom. And when I say everything, I mean BT working from your pocket, no reboots, battery lasts for at least 2 days and so on, without any root/Custom Rom or anything like that.
This thread is for the guys that started thinking that Android sucks and these bugs are affecting all Android phones. This is not true, so if you're unhappy with the X5, sell it!
X5 is perfect for it's value. They can't all affort to buy an expensive htc device, and htc devices with same price don't exist AFAIK, and the little more expensive are much worse from X5, plus htc' s support is zero(at least for these models). They never get an update, no matter if have problems. I had an htc model before X5 and I know the big difference in hardware and performance. I finnaly can really use my phone.
Yes, you can't have the perfect phone in a low price, but X5 is the king of low price models.
You're joking with the updates from HTC... ) I just had an OTA update yesterday. ) So, you probably didn't have an HTC phone or you don't know what you're talking about.
How many times did tap "check for updates" on Huawei X5 and actually had an update available?
You're confused my friend. Huawei is the one that provides 0 support, look at their website...pathetic really.
But anyway, this is my opinion...No offense intended.
Enjoy your crippled king of the low price models.
Unfortunately I'm not. I had htc devices from 2005-6, first wm and the last was an android. Neither of them never get a firmware update never. And I spoke for low end devices mainly not for all. I know about huawei' s support, but from the HTC a expect more, because I pay more and if I have 0 support(again thats not happen on all devices, but I don't care because the more money if there aren't for better hardware and performance and not for better support for what are they?).
At least with huawei I have a better and in fact usable smartphone.
I finally can make calls without crashes, navigation without stucks and crashes, I can finally hear the ringtone when I have a call, I can use device outside in sun, and I paid less from my last htc device.
Here in Greece Huawei X5 selling for 180€ at stores, so its the best choice for hardware with this price.
I know that Huawei's service is realy bad, but I ll take my chances.
A very cheap device with good (not perfect) developers touch!
If X5 gets CM official then will be support for a long time and gives to other developers the option to build side AOSP projects.
In finland operator sells it for 72 euro.. buyed it from sonera and thats is very good phone when you think its only 72e
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i have mine working without any type of problems for a week...
wifi theter bluetooh everything...
and one thing that i love in it is wifi and data connection always on and battery stands for 2 days... with a LOT of phonecalls even using gsm or wifi ( using progam called viber for voip ) that btw provides a unique experience in sound.
soo like you its an opinion, made by someone that cant afford an expensive htc device
and was using a cheap zte android model.
the diference is night to day. even my brother haves a iphone4 and really likes my x5 even one friend of me had a htc hd2 and trade it for this and LOVES IT.
so is important to say im using x5 with oxygen rom and latest francokernel and it could be better but wont be the same at least to my wallet lool.
dancer_69 said:
I finally can make calls without crashes, navigation without stucks and crashes, I can finally hear the ringtone when I have a call, I can use device outside in sun, and I paid less from my last htc device.
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I think you're comparing 5-6 years old HTC phones with 2011 Huawei...That's not the point here.
The point here is this phone is a pretend "high spec" phone, with a powerful CPU, but with **** components (BT, wifi, mic, speaker everything), that is selling at 180 Eur ($250). If you have $100 more, just get ANYTHING else.
For example on Ebay, brand new Nexus S with $320 or even a bloody Acer Liquid Metal ($180) is FAAAR better than the X5. I had the chance of testing the Huawei X1 as well, which apparently has a touch-screen, but it's an absolute POS.
I'm just trying to let everyone know that high spec is not everything (not on Huawei phones). Sure, if you don't need BT, or you don't care about spontaneous reboots or low volume in calls, then X5 is perfect for you. Otherwise, avoid Huawei!
i dont understand i have the phone made other to friends buy the phone, mine was one week in stock rom and no problems, now in oxygen still without problems, the other 2 phones are in miui and no problems. and our phones cost 160€ and if i have a problem just spend 10 minutes to physical store and send it to warranty. ive seen comparing prices in ebay its not to fair to do it i think...
i think the problem it self in here is like iphone users that can see anything else, same happens to my cousin that bought one htc desire hd in second hand for 270€ and new here in portugal i think it costs like 450€.
can you tell me its a better buy?
i dont think so... but thats my opinion im open to "new" brands and more competitive prices...
Perfect price for well running Android phone
katu2006 said:
I think you're comparing 5-6 years old HTC phones with 2011 Huawei...That's not the point here.
The point here is this phone is a pretend "high spec" phone, with a powerful CPU, but with **** components (BT, wifi, mic, speaker everything), that is selling at 180 Eur ($250). If you have $100 more, just get ANYTHING else.
For example on Ebay, brand new Nexus S with $320 or even a bloody Acer Liquid Metal ($180) is FAAAR better than the X5. I had the chance of testing the Huawei X1 as well, which apparently has a touch-screen, but it's an absolute POS.
I'm just trying to let everyone know that high spec is not everything (not on Huawei phones). Sure, if you don't need BT, or you don't care about spontaneous reboots or low volume in calls, then X5 is perfect for you. Otherwise, avoid Huawei!
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Hi,
Owning an X5 since 3 weeks, I'm running on official Android 2.2 and had no problems so far..
I've used Samsung and Nokia and their problems were not less than this ones', I mean Nokia had restarting, voice problems ect. but this phone works fine for now..
This phone has the same specs of HTC Desire Z (except qwerty keyboard) but is around half the price in Turkiye, and has a better GPU (Adreno G205 instead of G200, which is quite a big difference believe me) than Samsung Ace and is still 20 % cheaper..
Regards..
Originally Posted by katu2006 View Post
I think you're comparing 5-6 years old HTC phones with 2011 Huawei...That's not the point here.
The point here is this phone is a pretend "high spec" phone, with a powerful CPU, but with **** components (BT, wifi, mic, speaker everything), that is selling at 180 Eur ($250). If you have $100 more, just get ANYTHING else.
For example on Ebay, brand new Nexus S with $320 or even a bloody Acer Liquid Metal ($180) is FAAAR better than the X5. I had the chance of testing the Huawei X1 as well, which apparently has a touch-screen, but it's an absolute POS.
I'm just trying to let everyone know that high spec is not everything (not on Huawei phones). Sure, if you don't need BT, or you don't care about spontaneous reboots or low volume in calls, then X5 is perfect for you. Otherwise, avoid Huawei
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Yes, I'm comparing 5-6 years old HTC phones with 2011 Huawei. Htc TATTO is 6 years old? Of course not, but seems that it is(android 1.6 still, not powerfull enough to run any newer version, as HTC says, so hardware 5-6 years old too). This device have 240€ still in my country(X5 200€).
And I haven't any of problems that you mention. No reboots, no problems on call volume, no bluetooth problems until now.
i think theres no point in argument/comparison here..
if u like ur phone, keep using it;
if u dont, change to another model.. just do not try to discourage others from using it or more importantly developing for it..
i think the incredible s forum is a better place for u now..
farewell..
Never again huawei for me too. Thats for sure.
- U8800
Özgürce said:
Never again huawei for me too. Thats for sure.
- U8800
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why? based on?
I already talked about it in here, but i'll say again.
Please don't be misunderstand my words, i don't want to make anyone angry.
English is not my first language and i'm not good at english grammer too. =)
I'm really regretful for buying it.
I bought this phone just about 540TL = 300$. And i love it. But when it comes to "talking with the phone" it sucks.Other side never get a clear voice from me, and its must be clear than that. Even my W205 Sony Ericcson (its sagem actually) have a better mic quality. And i hate that. Other problem is wifi and i don't think its need proper explanation.
Its already talked over and over..
Camera is sucks too. Its not a 5MP camera. Its just like a 2M for me. My first W810 take better pictures than that.
There is none pc suite. Even the nokiapc suite is better than HiSuite!
There is none local site for my country, and not local support site.
They don't care english user. If you see the weibo updates from vice president of huawei and see his update notices in there, you'll see that, they don't care a make any english updates for that notices. @huaweidevices twitter is just make some adversites. Thats all.
I have this phone like nearly 5 months, even the 2.3.7 is out and we don't get ny official updates. And they remove items from they site too. I trusted huawei for updates and believe them to make 2.3 update. Now i don't trust'em, and even if its exist it will be 2.3.0 (i'm not sure.) And we will wait for other updates like a year again? I will not.
If stockwell, dzo or genokolar don't work on our phone.. I would sell my phone already. I can't thank them enough for that.
Well mine never had any issues So i'm very happy with it. Best phone ever. It would be very sad to buy HTC..spend 2x the amount..and at the end - still be unhappy.. but with huawei - you have relatively cheap phone with nice specs, maybe few bugs but those are very minor ones. I will recommend it to everyone who wants good low price fast (even 1.8Ghz!) phone
Never forget - only chinese in time of human evolution managed to make the things to be as possible cheap ant as possible good
Tommixoft said:
Well mine never had any issues So i'm very happy with it. Best phone ever. It would be very sad to buy HTC..spend 2x the amount..and at the end - still be unhappy.. but with huawei - you have relatively cheap phone with nice specs, maybe few bugs but those are very minor ones. I will recommend it to everyone who wants good low price fast (even 1.8Ghz!) phone
Never forget - only chinese in time of human evolution managed to make the things to be as possible cheap ant as possible good
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i agree in most of the things... its not the best phone ever but the best with a price for all living person... and comparing htc desire hd with it and htc costs 3x more...
its a ferrari with a price of a bycicle...
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i agree in most of the things... its not the best phone ever but the best with a price for all living person... and comparing htc desire hd with it and htc costs 3x more...
its a ferrari with a price of a bycicle...
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)))) A Ferrari with no steering wheel....)
I see where you're coming from but I think you got a lemon. I've had mine for better than six months and wouldn't part with it. It just works, does everything I ever asked of it and works in perfect partnership with my Asus Transformer. It's a keeper.
katu2006 said:
)))) A Ferrari with no steering wheel....)
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Booom haha its almost like stolen a ferrari, it got some kinks but the seller wont help you fix em

Is the Phone worth its money?

Hi guys,
Ive been actively looking for a phone for about one week now and in that time I browsed through thousands of sites and reviews and stuff for every possible phone ever.
Finally I ended up with the Droid Pro.
What was important to me is that the Phone was decently fast, had a QWERTZ keyboard and Andoid on-board.
From the first look I thought the Droid Pro perfectly fits these criteria - maybe despite the fact it has Android 2.2 instead of 2.3.
However before buying it I would like to ask you whether buying this phone would be a good idea or not. Are there any complains about it, any things you like or do not like at all, helpful things, useless things? Tell me how you feel about it, and tell me as much as you can.
It would help me a lot.
Many thanks to you guys!
Leo
threepointfive said:
Hi guys,
Ive been actively looking for a phone for about one week now and in that time I browsed through thousands of sites and reviews and stuff for every possible phone ever.
Finally I ended up with the Droid Pro.
What was important to me is that the Phone was decently fast, had a QWERTZ keyboard and Andoid on-board.
From the first look I thought the Droid Pro perfectly fits these criteria - maybe despite the fact it has Android 2.2 instead of 2.3.
However before buying it I would like to ask you whether buying this phone would be a good idea or not. Are there any complains about it, any things you like or do not like at all, helpful things, useless things? Tell me how you feel about it, and tell me as much as you can.
It would help me a lot.
Many thanks to you guys!
Leo
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What do you mean for the money? If the phone is less than $100 off contract then I'd say yes, otherwise I'd personally say no. It's not really a fast phone, but fast enough. The screen resolution is horrible, but all Android candy-bar qwerty's appear to the same issue.
I got one for my wife when it first came out and it was a huge improvement over BB for her. She loved it. Now is is starting to show her age. I loaded Apex custom rom on it and it has a few issues. Now I can't find a way to get it back to stock. haha, but that is my fault, not the fault of the phone
Well at this time the best price for this phone i could get was about 170€.
But Im surprised to hear the phone is slow, why that and what exactly do you mean by 'slow'?
Most of the newer phones often have a hardware which is even worse than the motorola's - 800Mhz and 256mb RAM is pretty standard, at least for the prices below 200€ - the motorola has specs that are pretty high for a phone I always thought.
In conclusion would that mean that any other phone with a 3,1" screen and the same specs is also slow?
threepointfive said:
Well at this time the best price for this phone i could get was about 170€.
But Im surprised to hear the phone is slow, why that and what exactly do you mean by 'slow'?
Most of the newer phones often have a hardware which is even worse than the motorola's - 800Mhz and 256mb RAM is pretty standard, at least for the prices below 200€ - the motorola has specs that are pretty high for a phone I always thought.
In conclusion would that mean that any other phone with a 3,1" screen and the same specs is also slow?
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I don't deal with candy bar qewrty's a lot so I don't have a lot to compare with, but Android can be a little hard on the system, so it can take some resources to run smoothly. However, that also means you can do a lot more with it, because you can get all the Android apps.
You're not going to get any more updates with the phone from Motorola, and I'm not sure how much the modding community cares about the phone. What other phones are you looking at?
Other alternatives would be the Sony Ericsson Xperia mini Pro (SK17i) - although Im a little concerned about it being too tiny.
Then there is the Samsung Galaxy Y Pro and the HTC Chacha, but what makes me a little sceptical about these is the fact that the keyboard takes a lot more space than the display.
I also considered buying a HTC Desire S or a Desire HD but that would be at least 200€, sadly ...
If it's under 100euro then get it, well I guess all german phone are european phone which are GSM-ready. The only annoying cons is the low resolution of the droid pro's screen, which makes pictures feel like low-quality but in reality aren't. (and low legacy status if that counts - if only you prefer a lil bit of "hacking" here and there ) Otherwise dont hesitate to get it.
Have you considered Moto Backflip ? (the Cliq/dext has the same specs but lacks flash) Milestone isn't that bad either 130mb memory sure is a problem but it has a big dev community standing behind/below xD
If you have friends in the US ask them for a craiglist's phone Mine got me one xD
Thanks guys,
I just bought a droid pro plus, although Im not sure there is much support for this phone here on xda-developers...
It's really the only option for a portrait qwerty.
Since ICS typing on touchscreen is easier. I've managed to adapt because of this.
The thing is with the XT610 is that Motorola make it hard to hack and being rarer community support is that much less.
A straight comparision to a GalaxyS1: very similar but the i9000 has loads more ROM options etc.
If I had to have a blackberry form factor then DroidPro is the only way to go... but unfortunately it could be better

Should I buy this phone now?

Hey, I'm being offered a used defy for a good price and I'm wondering if I should buy this phone now or save some money for my next option, which is Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo V (which is supposed to be updated to ICS). I'm asking this because the defy's last official update was 2.2 and, even though I know about the fantastic scene behind this phone and the hundreds of custom roms, I'm wondering if in 6 months or a year this phone will be as useless as my SE X8
Go for it.
Dexter_prog said:
Hey, I'm being offered a used defy for a good price and I'm wondering if I should buy this phone now or save some money for my next option, which is Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo V (which is supposed to be updated to ICS). I'm asking this because the defy's last official update was 2.2 and, even though I know about the fantastic scene behind this phone and the hundreds of custom roms, I'm wondering if in 6 months or a year this phone will be as useless as my SE X8
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Hey If it is cheap (compare to ebay used defy prices) go for it! It's a sweet little phone, and it does survive a lot of abuse. It is starting to show it's age though, but if you update it with a custom ROM from one of the awesome devs here (i'm on jelly bean with paranoid android - cheers to skeevy420 and brajesh.sharma87) it'll be like a new phone!
Main reason I have one is for it's outdoorsman type qualities...and it's small...
It is cheap considering I don't have a lot of money, companies here force you to "upgrade" to more expensive data/minutes plans to get new phones and that the company I'm in has the most expensive prices in the market (can't change companies now).
What do you mean by "it's starting to show its age"? I mean, I know it won't ever be officially updated past 2.2, but, does it get slow or buggy with newer roms? I'm asking because of my experience with my ****ty SE X8, which is awfully slow since 2.2 (last update it got was 2.1) and new roms are all buggy (BIG bugs like sd-ext being screwed up every now and then, and having to restore a NANDROID backup)
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This was already talked around here, not recently, but I remember seeing a similar thread some half a year ago.
Defy is almost 2 years old, with all the goods and bads. Officially it's on 2.2, nothing extra. CM7.2 works like a charm so you could get it to 2.3.7. CM10 is pretty alright, but I gave up on it after a few days of slowness and more battery usage. Maybe in a few weeks it will reach the official stable status.
Most probably nowdays you'll only find the Defy+, which has 2.3.4/2.3.6 (not sure about this) from Motorola. With this one things might be a little tricky with alternative ROMs (especially CM), but I cannot talk from my own experience.
If you're not into modding and changing every piece of your phone's software, you're good to go with Defy+. If not... I, myself, wouldn't buy it again.
On another side... depending on your pre-pay options and how much you use (minutes, MB, etc), maybe you should do some math and see if it's worth signing a contract.
Here in Romania, for example, buying a phone with a 2 years contract is a bad investment overall. But you don't have to pay those few hundred euros at once.
So think about it from every point of view...
daniel_loft said:
This was already talked around here, not recently, but I remember seeing a similar thread some half a year ago.
Defy is almost 2 years old, with all the goods and bads. Officially it's on 2.2, nothing extra. CM7.2 works like a charm so you could get it to 2.3.7. CM10 is pretty alright, but I gave up on it after a few days of slowness and more battery usage. Maybe in a few weeks it will reach the official stable status.
Most probably nowdays you'll only find the Defy+, which has 2.3.4/2.3.6 (not sure about this) from Motorola. With this one things might be a little tricky with alternative ROMs (especially CM), but I cannot talk from my own experience.
If you're not into modding and changing every piece of your phone's software, you're good to go with Defy+. If not... I, myself, wouldn't buy it again.
On another side... depending on your pre-pay options and how much you use (minutes, MB, etc), maybe you should do some math and see if it's worth signing a contract.
Here in Romania, for example, buying a phone with a 2 years contract is a bad investment overall. But you don't have to pay those few hundred euros at once.
So think about it from every point of view...
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Same **** here in Argentina, I would sign a new contract, the problem is that my dad pays for it and he doesn't want to pay a more expensive plan :/
I'm kind of leaning towards buying it, the only thing that worries me is that the person selling it told me that there's one button whose light is darker than the others. Could that mean the screen is malfunctioning or that the button may eventually stop working?

thining about getting the M

i have been eyeing the s3 for a while but have steered away from it due to build quality, and sheer size of the device.
i really like the smaller size of this phone, especially after seeing my girl with it for so long, and how convenient it has been for her. it seems to preform well even stock, as she is very timid towards rooting and romming.
my first question : would you guys suggest this phone?
i currently have a droid x2, and it has been interesting to say the least . i am looking for something dependable (which i know most motorola's are, even the dx2 was) as well as something that can perform. how is performance in your eyes?
one more thing, there is a successful method for unlocking the bootloader in the retail edition from what i have read..... is this the case? if so, do you guys see development for this device growing in the future? or does it seem to be dying down.?
thanks in advance, it seems like a pretty trusty little phone from what ive read.
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
i have been eyeing the s3 for a while but have steered away from it due to build quality, and sheer size of the device.
i really like the smaller size of this phone, especially after seeing my girl with it for so long, and how convenient it has been for her. it seems to preform well even stock, as she is very timid towards rooting and romming.
my first question : would you guys suggest this phone?
i currently have a droid x2, and it has been interesting to say the least . i am looking for something dependable (which i know most motorola's are, even the dx2 was) as well as something that can perform. how is performance in your eyes?
one more thing, there is a successful method for unlocking the bootloader in the retail edition from what i have read..... is this the case? if so, do you guys see development for this device growing in the future? or does it seem to be dying down.?
thanks in advance, it seems like a pretty trusty little phone from what ive read.
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yes you can unlock the bootloader, and development has been growing on this phone sense the unlock. i like my m it preforms well and the battery life is great.
Definitely recommended. Best android phone I've had yet
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Agreed, the RAZR M ticks all my boxes. Has been an amazing phone love it.
Performance wise, its great. And there is a kernel to get it to 1998 MHz if you root. Development has just kept growing really as stated before.
ShadowRAZR said:
Agreed, the RAZR M ticks all my boxes. Has been an amazing phone love it.
Performance wise, its great. And there is a kernel to get it to 1998 MHz if you root. Development has just kept growing really as stated before.
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I still love the phone even if it were stock (which its not) and I ALWAYS long for an upgrade 6 months after getting a phone.I have NO desire to replace it. The size is perfect, build quality outstanding, battery life great, performance good, it has almost the latest OS which for an android phone that's not a nexus is about as good as it gets. The one reservation I had about it and all Motorola phones was the locked bootloader but with that cracked and AOSP CM10.1 (4.2.2) I'm in love!. I just bought my wife a Titanium (Best Buy only) M in like new (no evidence of use) condition with case and sd card off eBay for $250 and honestly I want hers too lol. Got mine in the same condition in white off of eBay as well but for $350 which then was a great price for a like new M.
The one drawback is the smallish partion for apps on the internal SD card and as far as I can tell no easy or reliable apps to SD (I did it with one app which one day borked, wiped and destroyed my micro sd). This kind of kills this phone if your a mega gamer (mulitple games with 500+mb data will quickly wipe out internal space).
there is a bootloader unlock on this now. which makes it even more exciting, and maybe will produce that much more development.
i think it is an all around great phone from all of the research ive done. i just want to make sure the same X2 experience doesnt happen again. lol
another HUGE thing is that this phone is not huge. just when you thought phones would turn into tablets, the razr M comes along. hopefully it starts a trend in making them small again.
thanks for all the responses guys, i will be joioning the ranks in about two weeks. :good:
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
there is a bootloader unlock on this now. which makes it even more exciting, and maybe will produce that much more development.
i think it is an all around great phone from all of the research ive done. i just want to make sure the same X2 experience doesnt happen again. lol
another HUGE thing is that this phone is not huge. just when you thought phones would turn into tablets, the razr M comes along. hopefully it starts a trend in making them small again.
thanks for all the responses guys, i will be joioning the ranks in about two weeks. :good:
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keep in mind that most development is CDMA (VZW) based, but there are "fixes" to make them work on GSM carriers.
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keep in mind that most development is CDMA (VZW) based, but there are "fixes" to make them work on GSM carriers.
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yeah i am vzw. as much as it pains me to say it.
Definitely recommend the M. The battery life for me has been great. I do keep bluetooth and GPS off all the time, but my wife keeps both on and her phone will still go a couple days without charge. i used mine throughout the day, and as well as as a hotspot while storm chasing and it will easily go the whole day for me.
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Anyone using this phone on PagePlus, Straight Talk, or Selectel Wireless? I am thinking of ditching my S3 and USCC. Nothing but problems with reception.
This is a midrange device. I cannot recommend it. The only reason I got this is because my nexus shattered when I dropped it. I hate the keyboards lag on this phone, and pretty much lag all around. But I like that it is splashproof...
Other than that, low res screen, no tv-out, weird storage, etc.... good phone for my wife, but she's rockin s4....won't trade
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HonkyTonker said:
Anyone using this phone on PagePlus, Straight Talk, or Selectel Wireless? I am thinking of ditching my S3 and USCC. Nothing but problems with reception.
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i use it on net 10(att simcard), but i know there is a thread about flashing this to page plus you have to stay on ics for it to work if i remember correctly

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