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My review of the X10

Here my honest review after a couple week of use, I wont talk about the current update issue to 2.1 or 2.2 since I want to talk about the device in is current state.
Pro
-The design and quality of the device is very good in my opinion, it does fell very solid and simple to use. 9/10
-The screen is great, color, response, size and brightness make this device ideal to watch movie on the go or surf on the web .There is no multi touch so far, but honestly I don’t think it’s an issue, the screen is very responsive and work like a charm. 8/10
-Camera 8.1 megapixel, I was not impress at start, strange flash manner and picture quality not as great as I was expecting. Then I did play with the setting, it made a crazy difference. Picture now are crisp even in low light condition, details are nice and seriously now I can see myself use it as my main camera now. The flash always on don’t really matter, since its only turning on when you are about to take a picture no big deal and it really does help ,since the focus can adjust itself properly with the light already present then. Bottom lines don’t be shy try different setting play with the camera you won’t regret it. 8/10
-Call quality, while not the best is quite acceptable, I can hear people and they can hear me pretty well to even in a noisy environment. It’s certainly not perfect, but still better then most of my previous device.
-Multimedia, the sound quality is great, sound level is decent and with a proper headset will give you a great listening experience. I tried the same Mp3 at 320 kbs with my Sony MDR NC22 on different device, itouch 1 and 2 gen, Iphone 2 gen and my ipod classic, I did not see any difference .Video playback is nice and fluid and will definitely better then the itouch/iphone for the quality of the picture. 8/10
-Application, most of the normal user will find happiness, yes there is an apps for that, you will find apps for stuff you did not even know you could need before. Lots of apps are free or very cheap to buy.
-Connectivity, Nothing crazy there the device perform like it should, Bluetooth, wifi gps is quite standard now on most devices. They work quite well and you can expect them to work the way they should. 7/10
-Keyboard, some people wont like the oem one but in my opinion its not an issue since a dozen alternative exist and the market and you will definitely find one to please you. Swype won me and I would never use anything else now. 8/10
Cons
-Sony Ericson support, luckily you have lots of great online forum to find the help you need, otherwise you will be stuck in some mindless phone conversation and crazy back in forth email. 1/10
-Software update, the blame here is part fault from SE part fault from Carrier let me explain. Major upgrade coming from SE are very few, their road map is very limited so far, still they do make small update to fix most of issue the device have, problem is, most of carrier don’t push these update .Some like Rogers don’t even plan to make these small update available to their user , waiting on the big one to do anything. Carrier is the main issue, even if SE where to release 2.2 on the x10 tomorrow , 80% of the population will still never get it unless they temper their device. 5/10
If you did keep up with my awful French Canadian writing, I can say this: Overall it’s a great device; most of people will be pleased and won’t regret their purchase.
SE did not made any false promises so far, the unit came with lots of great feature and the quality of the hardware definitely will matter more then the Os shortcoming for most user. The rest of the people like me will expect a little more from their device and might feel frustrated to see similar device from other brand doing more with similar spec. I still wish SE to be more proactive and to understand the need of their entire customer, not just the lambda one.
Its all depend of your need and expectation, even with a technically outdated Os the device is quite stable, and unlike other mobile I had in the pass. It’s been on for 7 day now, not a single issue; SE did a pretty good job in that matter.
In a practical view, this device might not be great for game because of the lack of multi touch but as a work phone and multimedia device its definitely is a great contender. More users friendly then the blackberry, can handle heavy load of email, don’t look like a trendy toy like the iphone and still discrete while looking fantastic.

good revieuw! nice to hear sombody who is happy with the device.
instead of the bashing posts...
I'm very happy with my x10 as well, i have the white one.
and the overal experience is same like your's.

Hi. Think you've got it pretty much spot on with the exception of one small point about SE not making false promises... They said over four weeks ago that there would be a software update 2 weeks from then.... And still nothing in the UK. I'm on a factory unbranded handset by the way.
Other than that I'd agree with your thoughts and I too love my new toy!
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Hi. Think you've got it pretty much spot on with the exception of one small point about SE not making false promises... They said over four weeks ago that there would be a software update 2 weeks from then.... And still nothing in the UK. I'm on a factory unbranded handset by the way.
Other than that I'd agree with your thoughts and I too love my new toy!
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hey, yeah but thats not SE faulth. they released the .16update.
but in my country (belgium) its also not avaible. don't know why tough.
i have also an unbrandet version.

The .16 update came out ages before they made this announcement.. the update referred to in the announcement is different.. and how can it NOT be SE's fault?>

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The .16 update came out ages before they made this announcement.. the update referred to in the announcement is different.. and how can it NOT be SE's fault?>
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when SE release a update its possible that the carrier don't wanne release it.
because they don't think people need this... so SE release't the update but some SE user's don't get the update. people go to SE there for
but i taught it was about the .16 update. so my mistake.
i hope the update will come soon then!
and give SE a chanse, they made statments that they will provide plenty off fw update's for the x10. so i trust them, but iff they ditch me now its bye bye SE!

I still wish to fight for the 2.2,still a SE tech told me carrier was a major problem,since they want to test each update before implement them.Therefore most of them to save cost just wait for the big update 2.1 .
I have to be realistic,we wont see 2.2 this year because of this but i do still believe in the petition i started,just the goal have slightly changed,i just want to make sure i will receive the 2.2 .
Still at the end of the day,no matter what SE will do if company like ROGERS continue to screw up their customer nothing will change.

I got my handset from "Phones4U" in the UK and it came unbranded so it should get updates as soon as SE release them.. I think if anyone is really desperate for the updates then unbranding is the way to go..

i am wondering why he review on a forum that only Xperia 10 user would come usually.
It is very simple. For canadian who have no access to American's market (meaning those who don't want to brother buy phones off Ebay or anything else).
Xperia 10 is the best choice around until next year May at least.
Canadian technology catch up at a rate slower then turtles walk across a street.
You are not going to expect iphone 2 nor Evo 4g coming to canada this year to the very least.

Causes most of the user will search online and read quite a bit before buying any device and American market? What the hell are you talking about?
There is quite a choice on the Canadian market; most of carrier carries a good selection of android device.
Last times I check every major city have shop selling unbranded and unlocked unit for people not wishing to buy online……

Should I buy a X10 now??

oh... Looking to get an android phone, so I sell my HD2 before its price rolls down the slope. But now I learn that the Galaxy S, iphone, Motorola Shadow are coming very soon. So should I buy the X10 right now, or just wait until those phones are actually released? I have been using my old old old SE phone for a week now I maybe able to get a used X10 for $385..
btw, any sign of SE getting their hands on the Android 2.2?

I would say it’s depend of your need and expectation, let me explain.
The hardware is great; don’t listen to people saying the camera and the flash are bad, as long you don’t use the automatic setting your picture wont disappoint you.
Ill say go for it don’t worry, I want to keep this one since I finally found a device I like, blackberry iphone ,htc dream and magic where not my cup of tea. That’s why I fight to get the 2,2 update I want to keep it for at least 2 year and the os update is a good way to make your device fell new again.
BUT I have to admit ,its possible SE do something great with the 2.1 making the device over the edge even with an older version, proof? Check what htc did with the magic the sense ui its still running only 1.5 but defiantly fell like a something totally different.
It’s a great device overall, in my idea a perfect work and multimedia device.

I sold mine (at a profit) then I ended up buying it again lol, as i couldnt find a suitable replacement. The galaxy S does look good though.

While I do love my X10 im constantly tormented by all the new devices that come out after I just get a new one. Im also the impatient type so waiting for the new ones to come out is next to impossible for me. However, if you think you can wait then id be pretty tempted to get the Samsung Galaxy S. Its a pretty sweet phone if you ask me. However given Samsungs poor rep for continuing support for their devices you'd in a way be taking a similiar gamble with it as you would with the X10. At least it comes loaded with 2.1 which were still waiting for. Wouldn't even bother with the new iPhone. Doesn't tempt me one bit. Streak 5 looks is a tempter though too. It really depends on what you want out of it.

Currently, Galaxy S is what most people think as the best phone yet. I have tried it and it just feels like iPhone. It's really fluid but I still feel that the X10 has its own personality despite having the standard Home page. I've tried HTC desire and I do not like it's Sense UI. It's subjective btw
But in the future, Shadow (or N2?), iPhone 4G will outperform these phones most probably. Just wait a month or two. It isn't that hard 4G may be announced tomorrow, but it's Shadow that I'm concerned about or specifically, the Nexus two.
4G vs Shadow (maybe Nexus 2)
No flash vs Flash
Smaller screen vs bigger screen

well...
EVO 4G is CDMA, so its not on my list.
Streak is not a phone to me. (8cm wide )
Desire/N1/iphone HD, the screen is just too small
sigh, think I will just wait for another month or two.

X10 is not perfect, but I'm not aware of any other phone on the market (or even announced) good enough. So today I would buy the X10 again.

hmm... is the 384mb ram sufficient enough?

If you need a phone for making phone calls: DO NOT BUY THE X10!
The in call volume is useless! You can't make calls when you're outside on the street, in a noisy office etc.
UNUSABLE!
I strongly hope that SonyEricsson will fix this very soon!

T.W.G said:
If you need a phone for making phone calls: DO NOT BUY THE X10!
The in call volume is useless! You can't make calls when you're outside on the street, in a noisy office etc.
UNUSABLE!
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I not agree. While the maximum volume is indeed not too high, it is perfectly suitable for using it even in the street or in a noisy office.

I have to agree with t.w.g: The phone is pretty much useless in noisy environments like on a busy street or even in a café!

Yes it's not too hight but listenable in the street. But of course you can have problem with listening call in a too noisy place with any phone

Would you get new HD2 if yours is broken?

let's say your HD2 fell in water, or fell on the floor, or for some reason was suddenly not operating and cannot be fixed, and you have to buy another unit.
will you get yourself a new HD2 now that you really know the device? or buy another phone?
What would you buy if not another HD2 and why?

let's say your HD2 fell in water, or fell on the floor, or for some reason was suddenly not operating and cannot be fixed, and you have to buy another unit.
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Ok, i prefer not to think of that situation though
will you get yourself a new HD2 now that you really know the device? or buy another phone?
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Hard to say if i get another HD2 as there are many other phones out there with the same spec as an HD2. But if there were not id buy an HD2 in a moment as its a great phone, great screen, excellent call quality, active rom creating community for upgraded / custom roms .. Yeah it is a great device and id give it some thought if id have to purchase a new one ..
What would you buy if not another HD2 and why?
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Probably id get a DroidX when it arrives. It has a similar spec and screen size as the HD2 and looks very nice .. Id be able to surf the web no probs on that device which is the primary reason i bought the HD2, so for me any device that has a large screen for web surfing and allows me to make a call once in a while would do me fine .. Hey would the 5" Dell Streak be too big for the pocket, hmm id give that one some thought too

Nope, I love my Leo but I'd get an Android device and will be doing so when I can upgrade next January. I'd like to stick with a 4.3" screen though so therefore I'd like an Evo. But HTC have decided not to sell them in the UK so it would have to be a Desire.

I love my leo too, buti'll buy a droidX if I have to change quicker.

I like it, but prefer android based OS.
So if I could get as big a screen with TMOUSA, then I would change.

I'll wait for HD3

no, I will never buy such device.
Why? read my posts, there and then on this forum, including compete list of what's very wrong with it.
In short:
-poor support
-poor amount of updates, actually over because HTC discontinued the device
-official rom suck and is buggy
-HTC's philosophy to attack the one making roms
-Stupid design (sound, power button on the front, etc...)
Etc...
Also, I look competition and I see new Motorolla X, and I'm tempted to say: wow.
I heard feedback from people with droid and they did not have to wait custom roms to say "it works"...

If I broke my leo, I'd get a HD4, cause I hear its going to have a flux capacitor and be capable of generating the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power it.

Well, I ran into such a situation. My HD2 was not recognizing any sim card 50% of the time. And when it did, it only lasted for a short while. After trying all non invasive fixes, I decided to "operate" on it, taking it down to the screen. Still couldnt get it right. So I bought another one. I think it is a great phone for what I use it for. And, now I have a parts phone!

interesting question
Currently happned to me something similar. Phone has fallen out of my pocket on the ground, it was only 50-60cm, but screen is broken like if someone throw it against a bricked wall.
It will cost me at least 150EUR, bad luck. They do not repair only glass because is stick together with display and removing can break it.
I saw it at some thread ,that this is more problem of the hole around hw keys at the bottom. So basicly the design of the front panel, when phone is falling at bottom side.
But if it will be destroyed completely, I am not sure, but probably I will buy something else:
- phone itself is almost 9 months old, there are or shortly will be better phones
- there are still bugs after almost a year, and if they are solved they are not available for customers, for example official region version differencies
- is good that somewhere at forum is ROM which helps with battery consumption in standby mode, but you are not able to use it, basicly you are forced to break waranty otherwise you will be keep on usatisfied with device and forced to wait for official version for your region and wait and etc.
I like this device, but I am not blind to see weak points of the device or company policy, so it is almost 50-50 but time is ticking and competition will bring us better phones soon, I am optimist

If that happened tomorrow, Id get a HTC Desire.
If it happened just before the Nokia E5 is released, Id go buy a cheapo phone to tide me over till E5's release.

HD2s are really cheap now on ebay, and I have a pretty fair library built up already so chances are good I'd pick up another one. Although it's equally likely I'd get a big Dell Streak. I mean have you seen the thing? Its keyboard has a numeric keypad!!!

If I absolutely needed a phone immediately, it would be a toss up between another HD2 or iPhone 4. Android on the HD2 seems closer every day so having that option would be nice - but I've got WinMo exactly how I like it and I don't mind it at all. Further, lets face it, the 4.3" screen size is just spoiling. I wouldn't switch for an Evo, and the DroidX is just TOO big.
If I could wait a few months, I'd look for a HD3 / other WP7 device... or an iPhone 4.

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If I broke my leo, I'd get a HD4, cause I hear its going to have a flux capacitor and be capable of generating the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power it.
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but doesn't that run plutonium

nope, i want to move to the other platform
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0% chance that i will buy blackberry
5% chance: that i will buy iphone 4
15% chance that i will buy n900
25% chance that i will buy the nokia n8
10% chance that i will buy the meego device
45% chance that i will buy the android device

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Nope, I love my Leo but I'd get an Android device and will be doing so when I can upgrade next January. I'd like to stick with a 4.3" screen though so therefore I'd like an Evo. But HTC have decided not to sell them in the UK so it would have to be a Desire.
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Ditto, Desire all the way. I am looking into Android a little more lately, I most probably won't, but I am trying to persuade myself to buy one.

I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else.
Having said that it would be a close call i am due an upgrade on one of my contracts and was looking yesterday on the vodafone site, jeepers have you seen the prices on the Iphone 4's, flipping eck even if i wanted one i wouldn't get one, thats one expensive phone...
And having had a look around i've decided to stay with my HD2 for a while until something else comes out...

"I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else."
I know what you mean. I spent a year or so with my WM Tytn II - loved it then kind of got irritated by it's clunkiness ... had a Hero with Android for a year - loved it then kind of got bored and wanted a change ... ended up losing it and taking the HD2 as a replacement.
Android has some great integration, especially for social networking, but IMO it's not a great OS for business and things like emailing/file management. WM appears to be lacking in the former (although the HD2 is better because of HTC's work) but stronger in the latter.
For those reasons, I'd like to stick with the HD2 and see what my upgrade options are - iPhone 4 is an obvious option for me, but it's not often seen as the greatest tool for business etc.

Android is the future
I know that hurts, especially all of us that have HD2(Windows mobile), but Android based devices are future. So probably if I broke my phone(I hope not), I will buy EVO or Desire. But I want to point out, i will never buy iPhone 4.

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"I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else."
I know what you mean. I spent a year or so with my WM Tytn II - loved it then kind of got irritated by it's clunkiness ... had a Hero with Android for a year - loved it then kind of got bored and wanted a change ... ended up losing it and taking the HD2 as a replacement.
Android has some great integration, especially for social networking, but IMO it's not a great OS for business and things like emailing/file management. WM appears to be lacking in the former (although the HD2 is better because of HTC's work) but stronger in the latter.
For those reasons, I'd like to stick with the HD2 and see what my upgrade options are - iPhone 4 is an obvious option for me, but it's not often seen as the greatest tool for business etc.
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Well, after reading all the previous posts, I was almost convinced to change to Droids, but reading your post, and the fact that you had TYTNII like i did, and you tried Droid for a year, i am sure you have a good point that droids are goo for social networking (showing off) and WM is good for business, and business is what i need.
but reading other posts and looking at my past 4 years experience in HTC, i am more than convinced that HTC company sucks, so i will try to find a better WM device from another company, but i am not sure if there is any

[Q] What would you replace your X10 with?

And here goes the debate: "Which would be your logical replacement for your Xperia X10"!
Of course we all know that we have a phone that was released some time ago, and in technological standards it is an "oldie but Goldie". I am thinking I had a fair deal with my X10, which is why I will probably use it for quite some time until my tech-bug hits the necessity of the newest available (and cheap) advances in smartphones. This is where all the ppl here which not only have one, but 2 or more smartphones, come in. You obvious better knowledge of the latest and greatest gives my room to confide in your opinion, and taking in consideration that the region I am at, has only recently been taking in the possibility of getting 4G through Claro, a latin provider of such technologies, maybe we can still settle for the sluggish 3.5G (although I admit it must be a thrill to have 100Mbit/s or even 1Gbit/s soaring on my handset), as long as what I have in hand is a Gargantuan of the Smartphone arena.
Things I would take in account:
Screen size: I like to scroll through music on my X10, which is fun, especially when it helps you with that unknown tune that you never studied, but since you sightread, might give you all you need to know before showtime. 3.7+ screens with the highest resolutions possible
Processing speed: THE MUST, the faster the merrier!
Software Support: Although that is settled with XDA (and other places that have great devs, sadly not working together with xda in some cases), the latest updates are magnificent to have
Connectivity: Because not only 4G (which in Panama might start being a bit expensive), but WIFI and BT, plus the connectables, you know!
Sturdiness: Yes, the X10 lacks it... today my mom let my x10 go to the ground... CONNECTED! I spent 2 hours trying to fix the microUSB to be able to charge, which finally happened... but some other models have Titanium/Vibranium/Adamantium/WillNotBreakium/Lastforeverium covering plus a protective 7-point Barrier Chakra enchantment and Harry Potter type seals, plus Legolas, Aragorn and Gandalf protecting it... what I mean is, Si vis pacem, parabellum (to seek peace, prepare for war), and maybe you are going to be super protective with your baby, but one can't be so sure!
Last but not least
Price: Hey, technology is getting cheaper every day, not saying flea-market prices, but at least affordable enough when buying without a data/call plan, since I work independently, is not going to put a hole in my economy, plus it will last a long time before getting outdated... yeah, too much to ask, but I'm putting it out there for analysis
Bring in your opinions and advices! All are welcome!

Is this really the right place for this discussion? if it's about replacing the X10, it's not about the X10.
I am getting a Nokia N9.
In the Android world, I'd get a Galaxy S II.

arg0 said:
Is this really the right place for this discussion? if it's about replacing the X10, it's not about the X10.
I am getting a Nokia N9.
In the Android world, I'd get a Galaxy S II.
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Yikes... is there a place for a post like GENERAL ANDROID PHONE? If so, I don't mind if my thread is put in the right place; just thought since I speak of the X10 as my CURRENT main phone, I was wondering the people's opinion on which would be the best replacement for it, me being a current happy user, only wanting to upgrade to something that would be mostly like it, only just... well... newer?

you forgot hdmi port

i think HTC Sensation 4G is probably best of wait for Sony's Dual core phone !! probably my next from ny 1 of those !!! :-D

well, i will probably get next Nexus phone ( if it's quadcore ) or Samsung galaxy 3

Presume Iphone 5 (4s), my contract with t-mobile ends in December, so I assume i'll be offered iphone

Already replaced mine with a sensation, thnx to SE for their broken Yang connectors. My usb broke 5 times till now
VIPER

I love Galaxy S2

IMO i'm not going to change the x10 until it dies. it provides me all the functionality i need from a phone (mind that, phone) for now. it has it's role to play, and it has delivered its purpose.
i'm going to get a tegra 3 tablet be it android/windows 8 for other demanding tasks and portable gaming. i can get all my connectivity from the phone, saving me the need for a 3G enabled tablet. saves a lot.

Samsung Galaxy S II, LG Optimus 3d.
Or just the SE Xperia X10, it is fabulous and lovely regardless of SE ****.

Samsung Galaxy S II but still loving Wolf's ROM so yeah gonna take a while before I change

he said a cheaper phone... the last time i checked it, the galaxy s 2 was the most expensive one...

The cheapest smartphone plan here in Canada is $50/month =(. Looks like imma be stuck with my X10 for a while.

Probably a Google phone so I would always get updates or the xperia arc of course. No one makes phones like Sony with all the social entertainment
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SGS II caused of the screen

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I'd say dual-core is the bare minimum to settle for these days. Dual-core phones are still the minority, but they really are the way of the future, and it's immediately noticeable on system performance when you start having multiple things going at once.
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Software Support: Although that is settled with XDA (and other places that have great devs, sadly not working together with xda in some cases), the latest updates are magnificent to have
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As great as XDA is (it's been absolutely the saving grace for the X10), I'd say company history of timely updates is very important. That knocks anything from SE out for the running for me (their promises with their newer phones are good, but I'd take the wait-and-see approach before giving considering them after the mess they made of updating the X10).
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Price: Hey, technology is getting cheaper every day, not saying flea-market prices, but at least affordable enough when buying without a data/call plan, since I work independently, is not going to put a hole in my economy, plus it will last a long time before getting outdated... yeah, too much to ask, but I'm putting it out there for analysis
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Not sure what qualifies as affordable in Panama, but by your requirements you couldn't even buy a new X10 here in Canada for a "affordable" price without signing a new contract (it's $499.99 to buy one outright).
With all that said, I just got the HTC EVO 3D on Monday. It satisfies all my requirements - dual-core, full multi-touch, ample (1GB) RAM, Gingerbread. Only cost $149.99, but that was with a 3 years contract renewal.

well i already have the HTC HD2, which runs android flawlessly. The only thing is it doesn't look/feel as nice as the X10.

If the xperia DUO appears to be real i am concidering it, i always loved the stability in SE software, even if updates takes a little longer some times and i really like the camera quality of the X10 and Arc.
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samsung galaxy s2 by far...
nothing else at the moment can compare

Is the Phone worth its money?

Hi guys,
Ive been actively looking for a phone for about one week now and in that time I browsed through thousands of sites and reviews and stuff for every possible phone ever.
Finally I ended up with the Droid Pro.
What was important to me is that the Phone was decently fast, had a QWERTZ keyboard and Andoid on-board.
From the first look I thought the Droid Pro perfectly fits these criteria - maybe despite the fact it has Android 2.2 instead of 2.3.
However before buying it I would like to ask you whether buying this phone would be a good idea or not. Are there any complains about it, any things you like or do not like at all, helpful things, useless things? Tell me how you feel about it, and tell me as much as you can.
It would help me a lot.
Many thanks to you guys!
Leo

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Hi guys,
Ive been actively looking for a phone for about one week now and in that time I browsed through thousands of sites and reviews and stuff for every possible phone ever.
Finally I ended up with the Droid Pro.
What was important to me is that the Phone was decently fast, had a QWERTZ keyboard and Andoid on-board.
From the first look I thought the Droid Pro perfectly fits these criteria - maybe despite the fact it has Android 2.2 instead of 2.3.
However before buying it I would like to ask you whether buying this phone would be a good idea or not. Are there any complains about it, any things you like or do not like at all, helpful things, useless things? Tell me how you feel about it, and tell me as much as you can.
It would help me a lot.
Many thanks to you guys!
Leo
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What do you mean for the money? If the phone is less than $100 off contract then I'd say yes, otherwise I'd personally say no. It's not really a fast phone, but fast enough. The screen resolution is horrible, but all Android candy-bar qwerty's appear to the same issue.
I got one for my wife when it first came out and it was a huge improvement over BB for her. She loved it. Now is is starting to show her age. I loaded Apex custom rom on it and it has a few issues. Now I can't find a way to get it back to stock. haha, but that is my fault, not the fault of the phone

Well at this time the best price for this phone i could get was about 170€.
But Im surprised to hear the phone is slow, why that and what exactly do you mean by 'slow'?
Most of the newer phones often have a hardware which is even worse than the motorola's - 800Mhz and 256mb RAM is pretty standard, at least for the prices below 200€ - the motorola has specs that are pretty high for a phone I always thought.
In conclusion would that mean that any other phone with a 3,1" screen and the same specs is also slow?

threepointfive said:
Well at this time the best price for this phone i could get was about 170€.
But Im surprised to hear the phone is slow, why that and what exactly do you mean by 'slow'?
Most of the newer phones often have a hardware which is even worse than the motorola's - 800Mhz and 256mb RAM is pretty standard, at least for the prices below 200€ - the motorola has specs that are pretty high for a phone I always thought.
In conclusion would that mean that any other phone with a 3,1" screen and the same specs is also slow?
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I don't deal with candy bar qewrty's a lot so I don't have a lot to compare with, but Android can be a little hard on the system, so it can take some resources to run smoothly. However, that also means you can do a lot more with it, because you can get all the Android apps.
You're not going to get any more updates with the phone from Motorola, and I'm not sure how much the modding community cares about the phone. What other phones are you looking at?

Other alternatives would be the Sony Ericsson Xperia mini Pro (SK17i) - although Im a little concerned about it being too tiny.
Then there is the Samsung Galaxy Y Pro and the HTC Chacha, but what makes me a little sceptical about these is the fact that the keyboard takes a lot more space than the display.
I also considered buying a HTC Desire S or a Desire HD but that would be at least 200€, sadly ...

If it's under 100euro then get it, well I guess all german phone are european phone which are GSM-ready. The only annoying cons is the low resolution of the droid pro's screen, which makes pictures feel like low-quality but in reality aren't. (and low legacy status if that counts - if only you prefer a lil bit of "hacking" here and there ) Otherwise dont hesitate to get it.
Have you considered Moto Backflip ? (the Cliq/dext has the same specs but lacks flash) Milestone isn't that bad either 130mb memory sure is a problem but it has a big dev community standing behind/below xD
If you have friends in the US ask them for a craiglist's phone Mine got me one xD

Thanks guys,
I just bought a droid pro plus, although Im not sure there is much support for this phone here on xda-developers...

It's really the only option for a portrait qwerty.
Since ICS typing on touchscreen is easier. I've managed to adapt because of this.
The thing is with the XT610 is that Motorola make it hard to hack and being rarer community support is that much less.
A straight comparision to a GalaxyS1: very similar but the i9000 has loads more ROM options etc.
If I had to have a blackberry form factor then DroidPro is the only way to go... but unfortunately it could be better