I might be going out on a limb here be even asking this but is it possible to hack Zune music files or even picture files to sync with WP8 devices
sinister1 said:
I might be going out on a limb here be even asking this but is it possible to hack Zune music files or even picture files to sync with WP8 devices
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I'll admit I would like this too. It is a lot better than the "WIndows Phone App" for Windows 7". Dont get me wrong, if you have Windows 8, the app looks nice but, for Windows 7, would love to get this back so I can sync like I could with my 7.5 device.
DavidinCT said:
I'll admit I would like this too. It is a lot better than the "WIndows Phone App" for Windows 7". Dont get me wrong, if you have Windows 8, the app looks nice but, for Windows 7, would love to get this back so I can sync like I could with my 7.5 device.
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I agree with you DavidinCT. I don't think Microsoft quite go the message when we asked them that we didn't need Zune for everything. Although I like the fact that they made the store separate; they still should have left Zune as a music player or at least given us a Xbox music app.
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I agree with you DavidinCT. I don't think Microsoft quite go the message when we asked them that we didn't need Zune for everything. Although I like the fact that they made the store separate; they still should have left Zune as a music player or at least given us a Xbox music app.
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If you plug in your WP8 device to a computer, it will show as a drive and on the drive, it has a Music folder. There must be a way for Zune to sync with it as it would be almost just like syncing with a USB drive or a flash card.
What else will zune sync with besides Zune devices and WP7 devices ? How does the WP8 app do it, maybe so converter/program can be put in there to make it see it as a Zune device ?
With it being like a USB drive, I am sure it should not be hard for someone to do...for someone who knows how Zune works and can access the API for it..
You know what, I wonder if there something in Zune's registry that can be changed?? Hum.... I'll look into it see if I can find anything.:silly:
Hum found something but not sure; under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Software>Microsoft>Zune>Sync>Windows Phone>Handlers>DNS. Can someone look into it and see if anything if it is possible to write a new entry or change something? If it's a dll that needs to be changed then I'll have to leave it to a pro, I'm no good with dlls. Hopefully someone with the know how can help us.
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Hum found something but not sure; under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Software>Microsoft>Zune>Sync>Windows Phone>Handlers>DNS. Can someone look into it and see if anything if it is possible to write a new entry or change something? If it's a dll that needs to be changed then I'll have to leave it to a pro, I'm no good with dlls. Hopefully someone with the know how can help us.
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Good luck, I'll take a look if I get a second tonight to see if I can figure out anything but, I dont understand how Zune subsystem really works but, there has to be white paper on it or something...
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Good luck, I'll take a look if I get a second tonight to see if I can figure out anything but, I dont understand how Zune subsystem really works but, there has to be white paper on it or something...
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Cool let me know what you find because I've hit a bump.
Not to be Eeyore here, but what you are trying to do is the equivalent of making Zune sync to an iPod or other Mp3 player. It can't be done. You need drivers and numerous other resources from Microsoft, which they have developed.
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Not to be Eeyore here, but what you are trying to do is the equivalent of making Zune sync to an iPod or other Mp3 player. It can't be done. You need drivers and numerous other resources from Microsoft, which they have developed.
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he has a point here guys, and even if zune was jus copying music from one folder to another like a MP3 player it still wont work as zune has a database as well that would need amending. nope, without some kind of emulation layer, it is unlikely to ever be done
course, I should have checked the dates on this, that was some bump!
Oh yeah that darn Zune data base, I forgot about that... double bump!!
Doesn't WMP sync to usb devices?
and also does video/pictures?
I always thought zune just did what wmp does but for wp, although saying that I've never tried it with mine, just got annoyed at how pointless the windows phone 8 app is...
Yes wmp will sync to a usb device but a WP device isn't a usb device, other than the final result wmp and Zune have nothing In common, i don't have a wp8 device so haven't had the pleasure of using it but Zune is actually really good
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Zune speaks MTPZ (Media Transfer Protocol, Zune extensions). WP8 (and Windows Explorer, when showing a "media device" instead of a "removable drive") speak MTP (without the Z). They are not compatible. Your chances of getting Zune to talk to WP8 without a fair bit of reverse engineering or MitM on the connection are quite low, and I don't personally believe it's worth the effort.
With that said, I think WMP does (or perhaps did at one point) speak MTP. A number of other programs do too, including ones for OSes other than Windows. I haven't yet checked to see if there's anything special about WP8's MTP that prevents those other programs from working, though; there might be. After all, it was possible to get Zune and WP7 devices to show up (as MTP devices) in Windows Explorer after a registry tweak, but you did still need to have the Zune software installed.
Windows Media Player will sync with WP8 devices, though its pretty slow.
Attempts at hacking the MTPz protocol have been ongoing for years and it just died out and was never successful. Suffice to say, it isn't going to happen. We'll sooner get a proper syncing client from Microsoft for WP8 before someone reverse engineers the Zune software/protocol.
The only reason I would want Zune to work with WP8 is wireless sync. Wish there was a way to do that with WP8
I'm interested in some type of Music sync, I guess I would like all the zune features (podcasts, apps, etc) but, I would deal with a good music sync app.
Is anyone using anything besides the crappy "Windows Phone app" ? IS there a good 3rd party app that would sync to a removable device (like WP8 shows up as), to have a better interface for transferring music ?
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The only reason I would want Zune to work with WP8 is wireless sync. Wish there was a way to do that with WP8
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Agreed. The lack of phone-to-PC cloud sync is quite frustrating. 90% of the time I discover music from my phone and want it to sync back to my PC, not the other way around. Xbox Music has its fair share of issues, both in the backend service and in the horrible Windows 8 app. If they don't fix this on the phone in WP8.1, I don't think they'll ever get it right.
It's just a shame because all they needed to do was rebrand Zune. Change the logo, color scheme, and name. I don't think we loyalists would have cared what it's called, as long as its functionality remained the same. Instead, they gutted it of all its unique and useful features, then reinvented the wheel. As a square wheel. Xbox Music is nothing more than a less-functional, slower Zune with fewer songs in its library. What a waste of time and development resources.
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Agreed. The lack of phone-to-PC cloud sync is quite frustrating. 90% of the time I discover music from my phone and want it to sync back to my PC, not the other way around. Xbox Music has its fair share of issues, both in the backend service and in the horrible Windows 8 app. If they don't fix this on the phone in WP8.1, I don't think they'll ever get it right.
It's just a shame because all they needed to do was rebrand Zune. Change the logo, color scheme, and name. I don't think we loyalists would have cared what it's called, as long as its functionality remained the same. Instead, they gutted it of all its unique and useful features, then reinvented the wheel. As a square wheel. Xbox Music is nothing more than a less-functional, slower Zune with fewer songs in its library. What a waste of time and development resources.
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agree with you a 100%
if you guys didn't know this Microsoft released the windows phone app for desktop out of beta ... it is a little better then WMP but no where near Zune functionality
Bah I am working on some software to sync music like Zune does.
Music and other stuff as well.
Does everything zune does(except phone updates), plus some other things.
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You'd think it would be built in, but does anyone know if it will be possible to use the Wizard as a Windows Sideshow device in Vista? I got a horizontal dock for this thing just so I'd be able to run a gadget or two on it, but I'm surprised they didn't have it working out of the box ... with the popularity of the Wizard at Microsoft.
A quick search on google shows that there is quite a lot of interest for this.
IMO, it is almost certain this functionality will be added to Windows Mobile devices; lets just hope they don't limit it to WM6 devices.
Jörg
Very Good idea, I got some old phones with 2.5" LCD working, it is now time to wake them!
um.. install resco photo viewer.. i remember this feature on my hp6515a and after installing resco i have it back!
jacob-mda said:
um.. install resco photo viewer.. i remember this feature on my hp6515a and after installing resco i have it back!
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I guess they meant side show not slide show
whats the difference lol
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whats the difference lol
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Sideshow is a technology included with Windows Vista that allows for an external LCD to display widgets, even with the PC powered off. This allows you to see at a glance the weather, if you have e-mail, etc. It's primary use is in tiny LCDs on notebook covers, though if you could use your mobile for this, that would be really neat too.
MS is working on an app that does work on the Wizard, I have used a beta. It was very bugy but it worked.
How about this:
http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php
It adds a virtual display driver to your Windows (XP); this display is an activesync-connected PDA.
I have tried the trial version, and it appears to work (allthough a bit unstable, but I was using a bluetooth connection at the time).
Jörg
alandashby said:
MS is working on an app that does work on the Wizard, I have used a beta. It was very bugy but it worked.
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Can you upload that beta?
V J said:
How about this:
http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php
It adds a virtual display driver to your Windows (XP); this display is an activesync-connected PDA.
I have tried the trial version, and it appears to work (allthough a bit unstable, but I was using a bluetooth connection at the time).
Jörg
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This doesn't work with Active Sync 4.5 and or WM6
looks like they might be scrapping the development of this because of the similar features in vista.
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This doesn't work with Active Sync 4.5 and or WM6 looks like they might be scrapping the development of this because of the similar features in vista.
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Hah, I hadn't tried it with 4.5; nor does my device have WM6. But in a way it makes sense to stop this functionality. Still, I only recently came across it and thought it could have given some people some ideas.
Jörg
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Hah, I hadn't tried it with 4.5; nor does my device have WM6. But in a way it makes sense to stop this functionality. Still, I only recently came across it and thought it could have given some people some ideas.
Jörg
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I wasn't crapping on it, I think it looks cool. I wish it worked for me. I would rather have WM6 than a 320x240 extension to my desktop though. I already have a dual monitor setup.
Sidewindow can be alternative of sideshow but you have to run samurize plugins on that display to look like sideshow. Microsoft states that mobile devices can be used as sideshow with vista, i have tryed many ways and i have no success with this task
I saw one of the Microsoft Powerpoint presentations on their website presenting the sideshow feature and one of the devices among the usual picture frames and things was actually a Smartphone, it looks like in house at microsoft they have done it but jsut not yet for us. EDIT: See http://download.microsoft.com/downl...56b-d47a59388df0/pdc_2005_auxilarydisplay.ppt
Just came across this:
http://www.zoneos.com/index.htm
It works with ActiveSync 4.5 and with WM5 (even though the ppc executable only states 2003). Functionality is the same as the innobec software: it adds a virtual display driver.
Jörg
V J said:
Just came across this:
http://www.zoneos.com/index.htm
It works with ActiveSync 4.5 and with WM5 (even though the ppc executable only states 2003). Functionality is the same as the innobec software: it adds a virtual display driver.
Jörg
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Works on WiFi with Server 2003 and WM6 as the client. Very cool, not very usefull but very cool.
Could someone post the Pocket PC and Windows Vista files for ZoneScreen? Unfortunately, the author has removed all the files from his site in favor of the open source release (http://sourceforge.net/projects/zonescreen/) which only has the files for Windows XP.
Best uses for Sideshow
The best usage of this will be with remote controls for Media Center PC's. You'll be able to sit outside on the porch and browse your music files or other media without needing to see the TV screen. This way you can have speakers outside and you can play whatever music you want. Added functionality will be when they finally make the app for windows mobile devices so that you won't even need a third party remote. With 3G devices such as the Hermes (8525) you won't even need to connect via wifi or bluetooth. You'll see all your album art, receive feedback of "now playing" items, etc. It will turn your pda into an expensive 2-way touchpanel such as Crestron, AMX, or ELAN offer. I say screw the laptops. Check out this link and then imagine that on your PDA.
<http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/21/ricavisions-vista-mce-sideshow-remote-does-bluetooth-at-100-met/>
All those complaining about why it doesn't work on vista:
You need ActiveSync for this application which has been replaced with Mobile Device User Center, so it doesn't work. I hope there's an update on the way to make it work, because in partnership with konfabulator widgets, it's incredible. It had it built in a case, and it displayed all the systems specs via widgets.
So I was wondering, what Mac-users here are using to make life easier using a Windows Mobile phone with a Macintosh?
I currently use SyncMate (free version, just for contacts and agenda backups) and have tried using Doublemate to sync my phone to iTunes, but that didn't work yet and actually haven't tried anymore since months. So I just copy over musicfiles from iTunes to the X1 in USB-mode.
For movies I just use iSquint to re-encode them to MP4's to watch in the mediapanel. Still need to find a way to properly tag my iTunes library because I'm still getting 'unknown artists' which of course is highly annoying!
I backup a lot of mobile-snapshots with iPhoto, which I find to be an excellent and easy-to-use photomanager though with poor flickr-integration (I use flickr-uploader mostly anyway).
So, Mac user's of X1's and WinMo devices, share with me and others your experiences, tips & tricks of using two highly competing OS's!
I don't think many people use Macs here...
I use my MarkSpace Missing Sync for Windows Mobile (http://www.markspace.com/) to sync Address Book and iCal with my X1. I tried SyncMate (the paid version), didn't like it, think it needed more development; one annoying thing it did was try to grab every USB device connected to my Mac. I've also got Parallels VM installed, so I can also use MS ActiveSync.
I don't worry too much about trying to sync with iTunes or iPhoto, just simply mount my X1 and transfer files using drag and drop - keep it simple.
I also use my X1 as a wireless broadband modem. I use OS X bluetooth DUN rather than a USB connection, works well.
I don't consider OS X and WM compete at all. In fact there's plenty of support around that they complement one and other nicely.
I've been totally anti-microsoft mac-head person for a long time... BUT I've been a huge fan of SE phones also for a equally long time.
I was thinking of getting a iPhone like everyone else, but there were so many features missing you'll get on a "regular" smartphone. And I was also a avid Palm user also in their pre-phone pda heyday. So it was just so logical go with X1.
Just flashed to 6.5 it got rid of so many annoying things I didn't like on 6.1. Mainly on UI side. And I love the superhackability of WM/HTC phones. You can do anything like with them. iPhones a different game.
Basically the keypoints for me were keyboard, console-emulators and expanpability/hackability. Actually I consider my X1 as a nice little xtra laptop to live alongside my MacBook Pro. Nowadays I don't drag my 17" inch along all the time as I can do all the things I need on the go with X1. And WM is a pretty straightforward and basic OS so I get along with it.
My mac talks and syncs pretty decently with X1 via Missing Sync. It's not perfect but enough for me. And mostly the regular usb transfer does the trick.
And after founding out xda-developers this has grown into a nice little hobby to tweak around with WM
I use itune agent to sync my itune music on pc with my x1 it works
ok another option is the program salling
both are made to sync non ipods/phones with itunes
but not sure if there are mac versions of them or other options for mac
Are you guys also irritated by OS X leaving invisble files on Windows devices? I'm guessing it's something that has a good function within OS X itself, but outside of OS X it just takes up space.
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Hey all, I was using Missing Sync from MarkSpace worked great, although sometimes you might need to reboot both devices if recognisation is FAIL.
Anyway ran into some problems a while back with restoring my backups with some roms just failing after a restore, figured it mustve been a problem with a specific contact, so now have two different contact databases, my phone and my pc.
yo hezz05 look at blueharvest http://www.zeroonetwenty.com/blueharvest/
should help
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ddutchie said:
yo hezz05 look at blueharvest http://www.zeroonetwenty.com/blueharvest/
should help
peace
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Thanks! Just installed it, hopefully will keep those files off of my devices.
mmm what do u guys think is the best software around?
migrated from Vista
XpErIaX1-IdOu said:
mmm what do u guys think is the best software around?
migrated from Vista
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What do you mean? To backup or update your contactlists etc?
I just use a free copy of Syncmate, I only use it to backup contacts. Other stuff I just drop as a USB drive.
Hiya
This is my first post on this cracking site, so firstly let me say hello
I was wondering if you could help me. I have managed to download the media go software and software update programs from Sony for my X10, however I was wondering if anyone knew if they are going to release a mac version as I've just bought myself a macbook or if there was a way to manage the x10 through OSX. The other options I can think of are to either run windows through BootCamp, however I don't really want to partition my hard drive or the other option is to run windows in VMware Fusion which I installed today. I would just prefer to be able to work with my phone directly through OSX if possible.
Many thanks for your help in advance.
Cheers
Andy
Just checked and Sony now do a mac version of their software....I must have missed it when I last checked their website....doh lol
Welcome to the forum!
If you are looking to put on music from your itunes/photos from iphoto you can try using doubletwist. basically itunes for android. http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt
there is also another application called the missing sync for android. you can sync contacts, call logs, etc. on to your x10. however it is only a 14 day trial and youll have to buy it. http://www.markspace.com/products/android/missing-sync-android.html
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Welcome to the forum!
If you are looking to put on music from your itunes/photos from iphoto you can try using doubletwist. basically itunes for android. http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt
there is also another application called the missing sync for android. you can sync contacts, call logs, etc. on to your x10. however it is only a 14 day trial and youll have to buy it. http://www.markspace.com/products/android/missing-sync-android.html
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Thanks Man
Dell To Add Stage Multi-Sync For Dell Venue Pro Devices
apparently dell has some diferentation it wants to put in its smart phone line up
what do you guys think about these incoming "dell only" features
Sounds like the article author got confused, WP7 cant have the UI replaced so any reference to the DVP using the stage UI to me is suspect. Plus Zune takes care of all that media sharing so to me it sounds like an android thing only.
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Sounds like the article author got confused, WP7 cant have the UI replaced so any reference to the DVP using the stage UI to me is suspect. Plus Zune takes care of all that media sharing so to me it sounds like an android thing only.
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i cant browse the music i have on my computer from my phone using zune
it sounds like the dell stage "hub" would allow me to do that
ps subsonic is an app that kind of does this
and some more details
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=3261544
pessimistic observer said:
i cant browse the music i have on my computer from my phone using zune
it sounds like the dell stage "hub" would allow me to do that
ps subsonic is an app that kind of does this
and some more details
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=3261544
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Ah well, wont make much difference when the phone wont stay up long enough to browse the network anyway.
To browse your music and videos from computer install tversity on ur pc and over wifi, access ur pc ip and tversity port using IE in the phone.
Not a slick ui, but better than nothing.
Tversity port is 41952 ..
eg: ur pc ip address:41952
I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
Oh.....ok....
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I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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what an insightful post, you're in an XDA forum but you're too lazy to "hack" your phone
windows phone 7 is still a baby compared to android and iOS. the partnership with nokia means the ovi store is merging with the marketplace, so this should help, plus the changes in free submissions (allowing 99 free submissions i think) will also help.
its also worth remembering that windows phone 7 on a HD2 is also not official, so i dont see why you would have an issue with unofficial registry hacks!
personally the limitation for me is apps. having used android, i got into the habbit of downloading apps out of bordem, but that is more limited on wp7. i also think the pricing for some of the apps and gams is a little high compared with other platforms. but these often change with time.
i quite like zune in comparison with windows mobile device centre, but i do agree it has some similaritys with itunes.
dont use it if u dont like it
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Exactly,
Don't buy it if you're not going to eat it
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Btw, Your title is just, with all respect, stupid.
Wp7 on hd2 and 1gb of cab file storage
Thanks to all the guys that were involved in developing wp7 for the Hd2. What do you think if Microsoft allowed 1gb of cab file storage on the wp7 platform of the costumers choosing, and they could add or remove files as they please in that 1gb of space?
That's a shame. Put a little time in and get alot out!! You really are missing out.
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I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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Wowwww.!!!! This one of the most insightful post !!!!!
Ok m8.... You are probably the XDA guy that ask for help to a problem ...nad the solution is 3-4 posts above !!!!!
Ok.. no prob.... its an alternative to a lot of guys arround here ... and they are lucky to be XDA members...
colossus
I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
;-))
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I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
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I'm totally with you - the Zune pass got me. I love being able to tag something with Shazam and then have the song or album in a few minutes from the Marketplace.
I have random issues with sound from my headphones, and having to flip to video mode to get the camera to focus kinda bites at times, but those are minor issues compared to all the reboots, hangs, freezes I had with even the stock 6.x rom -
WP7 is great, so great that I almost daily want to go get a real HD7 so I have full hardware functionality.
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The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
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Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
I just need gps with maps on the device. is this suppose to be on the ovi store? when is that coming?
I too am using dual boot to wp7 and android and enjoying how they compliment each other with both having there strong points that makes up for their individual short comings.
As the wp7 build matures it will only get better. The wp7 takes about 15 seconds to load and the sd android build that I have takes less than 3mins so I can live with switching back and forth.
I really like netflix, the call quality, and email on wp7. Games, gps, maps, flash support, internet browsing, video, and camera I prefer the android build I use.
For me the switching between the two OSs works well.
by definition it is an alternative.
I suppoes you mean, isnt a "good" alternative
My question to you is alternative to what? an iphone? android? pen and paper? carrier Pigeons?
and even then, "good" is subjective, carrier pigeons and pen and paper have many uses that my phone wouldnt be "good" alternative for, for instance i couldnt feed my phone bread in the park, or let me kid run after it flapping like a bird scaring them away, and coming back to IT, i find its completely fine, works, works well, its a perfect "alternative" for me
Huge sweeping statments are a bit daft, fair doos, its not your cup of tea, but i dont think we have to hear about it, after all i couldnt care less what your opinion is because i have my own as do you and thats your right. but im not going to start a thread telling all about my opinion, especially since all your opinions of what are bad are in the public domain, you would have known about them before you even installed it, so its not even a constructive debate or indeed a question,
infact what is the point? to regurgitate the same information thats already been around the block several times?
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Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
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I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
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I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
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I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
Gabe3 said:
I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
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