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Save BeyondPod!

The developer of BeyondPod - possibly one of the best podcatcher/RSS readers available - has decided to focus more on the Android platform and less on WinMo. As anyone who has tried to use BeyondPod on any of the 6.5 builds knows, there are a number of issues with the way it renders feeds (missing scroll bars, no text size control, no finger scrolling, etc). Basically the program needs to be updated to support the new version of IE in 6.5.
This would also be an oppurtunity for anyone interested in the future of BeyondPod on WinMo to take over its development. The project is open source, and there are a number of possible improvements that could make this app even better (feed search, apptodate support, homescreen plugin, etc). The dev would be more than happy to have the help.
Couple links here:
BeyondPod home page
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/
BeyondPod source
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/SourceControl/ListDownloadableCommits.aspx
Discussion on 6.5 issues
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/Thread/View.aspx?ThreadId=53878
Anyone interested in tackling this project? Or is there an even better alternative out there for those of us who want to get our podcast on?

No one cares? Or maybe I'm one of the few that do?
Guess I need to teach myself some programming skills . . .

Im using BeyondPod, great podcast software!

jeremy89632 said:
Im using BeyondPod, great podcast software!
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You might be using it now, but won't be for long . . . if you upgrade to WM6.5 or many cooked ROMs of WM6.1. That's the point of this thread.

TheDaddy said:
You might be using it now, but won't be for long . . . if you upgrade to WM6.5 or many cooked ROMs of WM6.1. That's the point of this thread.
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Can we try to petition or email them?
At least write an app for wm 6.5.
Than that will be ok.

jeremy89632 said:
Can we try to petition or email them?
At least write an app for wm 6.5.
Than that will be ok.
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Dude. Read the first post carefully. And follow the links.

I liked beyondpod but switched to speeedreader due to google reader sync. they should actually talk with each other, both have great features, combined it would be a killer app..
http://emuneee.wordpress.com/eeenno/speeed-reader/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516168&page=9

S200guy said:
I liked beyondpod but switched to speeedreader due to google reader sync. they should actually talk with each other, both have great features, combined it would be a killer app..
http://emuneee.wordpress.com/eeenno/speeed-reader/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516168&page=9
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Speedreader is no comparison to beyondpod. Beyondpod is the best software i've found by far for managing audio podcasts, multiple auto downloads, intuitive interface and integrated player with great playback and bookmarking features. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this awesome software and if anything out there is close or better I would like to know. I would almost abandon 6.5 just for Beyondpod, but 6.1 scrolling is so terrible that i cant do it. Beyondpod is one piece of software that would actually be worth paying for if it weren't already offered for free.

bruceo said:
Speedreader is no comparison to beyondpod. Beyondpod is the best software i've found by far for managing audio podcasts, multiple auto downloads, intuitive interface and integrated player with great playback and bookmarking features. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this awesome software and if anything out there is close or better I would like to know. I would almost abandon 6.5 just for Beyondpod, but 6.1 scrolling is so terrible that i cant do it. Beyondpod is one piece of software that would actually be worth paying for if it weren't already offered for free.
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SECOND that ... i would do it but I am no coder ... BOunty perhaps? or how can we get it done ?

The name defines, BEYONDPOD.
So yeah, this app is good.
Runs quite well on wm6,5, have to use the Dpad to scroll up and down though.
Able to download, listen and play audio and video and see podcast listing in wm 6.5

jeremy89632 said:
The name defines, BEYONDPOD.
So yeah, this app is good.
Runs quite well on wm6,5, have to use the Dpad to scroll up and down though.
Able to download, listen and play audio and video and see podcast listing in wm 6.5
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Was there an update? I have had at least 15 6.5 roms flashed and the content view in beyondpod was not working therefore rendering it useless for downloading. Sometimes you could see content view the first time you brought it up, but it would not refresh if you scrolled and would be blank the next time.
I would be up to adding to a bounty if necessary

bruceo said:
Was there an update? I have had at least 15 6.5 roms flashed and the content view in beyondpod was not working therefore rendering it useless for downloading. Sometimes you could see content view the first time you brought it up, but it would not refresh if you scrolled and would be blank the next time.
I would be up to adding to a bounty if necessary
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Oh, I dont notice this issue, as what you mentioned work perfectly fine, (Surprisingly) on my device.
I will check out and see how it goes.
Cheers.

Hi All,
jeremy89632 is right, if you just use your Dpad then the error doesn't occur. Another option I have found is that if you use the update and download option then that works as well.

I'm a .NET programmer and I think this is written in .NET. Let me take a peek at the source code for a few days and then I'll let you know if it is something I might want to tackle. I do a TON of development work in .NET but nothing on the mobile platform yet - this might be interesting. Plus, I've been looking for a good RSS/podcast reader myself!
/Chimp (Tom)

Tom, Def check it out it rocks for audio podcasts.
I seem to have found a temp workaround, which tells me a solution cannot be far off. When I go into content view and cannot see the content or it is messed up. I just switch my touch pro to landsacpe and the view is fine abd I can use the dpad to scroll. I will ususally just shift right back to landscape and the view remains perfect but dpad wont scroll until I first touch the screen, then it will dpad scroll with no problem. I can click and download feeds with no problem. I reduced the large text size in beyondpod settings. All the podcasts manage and playback fine but the volume is much lower than normal hard to hear even with mediaplayer and system volume at max. Volume in my other apps and mediaplayer is very loud as normal.

It it more complex than I thought. Also, is this only for a SmartPhone? Or is also for a WM Professional device? When I finally got it loaded into VS2008 it only showed a SmartPhone device.
I'll keep playing with it.
Chimp (Tom)

Definitely PPC touchscreens. On 6.1 it was pretty flawless and fairly finger friendly.

Hmm... It is definately showing up as a Smartphone only when I load it. I'll have to figure out how to switch it over to a PPC device (and also support a SmartPhone).

Well, as this app is for the touchscreen users, it is easier to squash bugs for users rather than to create a smartphone version and cause issues.

SimpTheChimp said:
Hmm... It is definately showing up as a Smartphone only when I load it. I'll have to figure out how to switch it over to a PPC device (and also support a SmartPhone).
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I downloaded the code, as well... I got it to successfully compile and run in the WM6.5 Pro emulator (with the stated problems). You need to change the target platform to WM 6 Pro.
Like you said, the code is really complex, but I kind of understand why, it's a great program, and I've missed it since I finally got 6.5 on my i910...
I don't have a lot of spare time, but I'll try to tackle this thing...

What would it take to make Leo the MOST awsome phone ever?

I really like HD2, and with the New SMS Hotfix released today, it might be even better
But what do you REALLY want on the phone, that might come out?
For me, in order of how important:
1. Spotify official client
2. Companies like EA starting to develop big titles to Windows Mobile. We know HD2 is just an capable gaming device like the one Apple makes
3. A good Facebook Client (todays client is poor compared to iPhones)

Two for the price of one?? hehe

samsamuel said:
Two for the price of one?? hehe
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I don't know if this would be considered as an feature thou

Google navigator.

I would like the random freezing to stop, especially coming out of unlock.
I'd love the lockscreen to have music access, its just easier to control from there instead of sliding to the specific tab in sense.
Also I'd really like a better windows live messenger program, its just so dated and old and if they could integrate push notifications on there that would be awesome, Facebook app needs to be improved seems like a half assed attempt because everyone phone was getting the app and they had to rush it.
Other than that, Im pretty happy with the phone at the momemnt, each time they update the software it seems like a brand new phone to me.
Im still waiting on whether wm7 is going to be put on the HD2 because the tasks, calendar, notes and whatever else needs to be updated.

Just to fix the flaws eg call volume too loud and distorts/crackles, screen switches back on making calls so your ear ends up pressing other functions, and text input glitch when pressin 12#
If these were fixed it would be the best phone on the market imo, but with them it's becoming extremely irritating

IMO it already is the "most awesome" phone ever. Sure, there are (or rather have been) some teething problems with the device but with the latest SMS hotfix released today it's near perfect (apart from the camera, but this issue was well publicized as a hardware problem before most of us purchased our phones - and yes, no matter what HTC are saying now, it is a hardware fault).
An official spotify client would be nice, but really I prefer to use the built in media player and store my music on the SD card. Spotify may not be around for much longer anyway if certain analysts are to be believed.
The FB client does suck, but it does what it's supposed to - more or less. Even on the iPhone I tend not to use the app but go directly to the website. Unless all you're doing is changing your status or uploading a photo it's just as fast (and should you do a status update or share a photo there are better ways than the app anyhow - I do miss having the ability to add a caption using the MS Uploader though).
So far I haven't come across any apps I need (or want) that are not available on WM, and while the iPhone does have a uniform look, UI wise, the fact WM does not is perhaps a good thing as it allows for more variety. If anything I wish MS would come up with a standard set of skinnable controls so that applying a theme to the phone would change the entire experience - I have a feeling this is in WM7 (to some extent).
Of course, there are ways to make it even more awesome, such as a better battery life, TV out, USB host capabilities, second camera (video calls / webcam) etc, but really it doesn't matter due to the 4.3" screen we do have - that, and the processor, is what makes this device what it is. Without the larger screen it would have been just another phone. By the time WM7 is available we'll likely get another handset with all the features above, the large screen and hopefully Nvidia Tegra

I'd be happy with it if they'd just fix all the damn bugs.

The only things that I want are tv-out and a larger capacity battery. Everything else is spiffy

arxx said:
I really like HD2, and with the New SMS Hotfix released today, it might be even better
But what do you REALLY want on the phone, that might come out?
For me, in order of how important:
1. Spotify official client
2. Companies like EA starting to develop big titles to Windows Mobile. We know HD2 is just an capable gaming device like the one Apple makes
3. A good Facebook Client (todays client is poor compared to iPhones)
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Ever up until when?
Now?
or now?
or how about now?
Technology is constantly moving, expect a new handset from HTC by the end of the year that blows away the HD2...
It currently is already an awesome handset with some slight quirks/bugs that need rectifying but it will quickly be caught up by other manufacturers and also by HTC itself...

arxx said:
I really like HD2, and with the New SMS Hotfix released today, it might be even better
But what do you REALLY want on the phone, that might come out?
For me, in order of how important:
1. Spotify official client
2. Companies like EA starting to develop big titles to Windows Mobile. We know HD2 is just an capable gaming device like the one Apple makes
3. A good Facebook Client (todays client is poor compared to iPhones)
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It might be a stupid question but why don't you get an iPhone then

DinoZ1 said:
It might be a stupid question but why don't you get an iPhone then
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I have an iPhone 3G, But I think HD2 is better in many ways
Tactile feedback, 4.3" screen, HTC Sense...
I was also hoping this post would enlighten someones needs, and someone else knowing about how to for fill those needs
I love HD2, but i still have to bring two devices for using i.e. Spotify

Better battery life would make it near perfect for me.

arxx said:
I have an iPhone 3G, But I think HD2 is better in many ways
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I totally agree with you

I only need:
1. a program to disable the T9 button in the keyboard..
2. a program to disable the "Other button other than the power button can't turn on screen"
3. rotate screen will rotate every program..
would be AWESOME!! and I think I'll have the perfect phone..

completely agree with zelduy , id love those three points as well

zelduy said:
3. rotate screen will rotate every program..
would be AWESOME!!
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Have a look at PLToggle (in my signature). It's not an automatic program that rotates the display when you rotate the device, but it allows all programs to rotate with a long-press on the call button (to the rotation of your choice).
That might help

DinoZ1 said:
I totally agree with you
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I sort of agree. The HD2 would be better if everything worked properly. As a device it's better, but because my iphone 3G worked flawlessly it didn't cause me so many headaches, and therefore could be considered better

The main kicker for me would be the battery life.
If I could get about 2 days average use out of the phone that'd be perfect.
It's not happened to me yet but if I desperately needed to make a call at about 4:30pm I can see myself not having enough battery left. What are mobile phones for after all?

I just want it to do everything good without freezing

Do you bother with Windows Mobile anymore?

I said I'd never go Android because it looked silly and geeky and now I'm addicted to it. I can't believe I put up with WinMo for all the years and didn't use another system. Android (Mostly HTC Sense style) destroys Windows Mobile and the only thing I still like about Windows Mobile is the Windows Live Messenger official client.
Anyone still use WinMo who also uses Android? Why do you? What are your reasons?

Garmin Mobile XT. There is no Garmin GPS software on Android (and I have many Garmin maps)

4 days ago i installed andorid just to use 1 application. ONE!!!!
and today i just use winmo for 1 application only (garmin). ONE!!!!
and my default boot now is android. i even turn airplane mode on in winmo so that i can't use winmo as phone anymore. now i use winmo just to copy data.img and the default connection is usb disk.
after i buy igo/papago/ndrive/whatever i'll stop using winmo altogether.

its a choice really there are lot of good things on winmo and same time lot of good apps in android.some of us can have dual boot.its just a choice.

I actually like both android and windows, if windows had a better market place I wouldn't bother with android, I love the simplicity of windows, the multitasking is by far better in windows, I can have lots of apps open and simply switch between them, android does this to a certain extent, htc sense is far superior in windows the slick weather animations are more detailed, sense on android seems a slightly basic affair, on windows I love the bbc news app much nicer to use than the android one, now facebook app works a treat on windows, my memory map navigator simply syncs with my pc maps and works better than any of the basic ordinance survey map apps on android, there are lots of bird/wildlife guides on windows, hardly any on android.
Alas android has many more games and a vast marketplace, and flash works straight out the box on android whereas its a little hit and miss on windows.
I can run windows and never use my 500mb per month data limit, with android I have to be so careful of what its downloading in the background constantly.
So yes I still like windows, androids ui almost feels a little mobile shell to me and I found that a widgety cluttery hodge podge

Whats windows mobile? lol

maybe winmo is dead..but its true,i dont want to completely change to android bcoz of garmin

I haven't booted to Win Mo since October (and I was a huge defender of the OS).
If I ever do need to boot back into it, it's because I have TomTom remaining on 6.5, but as I'm not driving currently then it's not likely to happen! Indeed I may well go to NAND in the next week.
I agree with the above post that Sense was slicker/more attactive on 6.5, but (except TomTom) there's not a single App that's missed or not excelled by it's Android alternative - and even if there is one, it's outweighed by the sheer number of quality Apps available on 'Droid.
But 6.5 was never a bad platform, just Microsoft completely screwed it with no MarketPlace and no UI, until HTC and Cookie showed how it could be done.
Overall the experience of Android is fantastic on the HD2, so for me, no looking back!

Same here...I never thought I'll leave WinMo for Android at the early stages but here we are today. I havent used Windows Mobile as a phone for nearly 4 months now and cant simply understand the vast user interactivity and experience between the two OSes. Android totally kills WinMo but I still go back to it just because of Tomtom which I must say is quite good. Once they get tomtom on Android, I'll most likely ditch WinMO for good.

same here. I always used winmo since 5.0. I couldn t believe that i ever use another OS, but WinMo is dead specially after releasing phone7. After a long time i finally installed android and i don t see a reason to change back. Oh maybe sync with Outlook?!? Oh no wait, outlook can t sync with phone7 Make a pptp vpn with 6.5 oh wait microsoft don t support it s own encrypton mppe )
If you ask me WinMo is dead...

I've installed android to give it another go (tried before on my blackstone and thought it was "meh" ) and to be prepaired for any clients who use it.
It's still meh to be honest, feels clunky, I've no idea if the back arrow is closing an app or leaving it paused in the background, web browsing doesn't work for some of the pages I visit (with link redirects) using either the built in browser or opera mobile, I hate that you can select hyperlinks without zooming in. The email client sucks. I'd check out gallery but I always give up after 5 minutes of it trying to load all the folders with images rather than taking me to a default location and then letting me decide which folder to look in. Album under WM is so much better.
Can't stand the keyboard, god knows why MS copied it for WP7. Having to go to a seperate overlay to get numbers? Come on that's crap. If I can hold a key down and get a row of alternate characters, why can't one of them be a number?
So far I use it mostly for kindle. I've got angry birds installed but prefer huff n puff on WM (just wish it had more levels).

Recently I've been using winmo for fpsece... its so much better and more customizable than psx4droid is. Sometimes I just prefer using winmo, too. I've been using it 8 years... i can do anything I can do on Android with winmo. But sometimes now I prefer Android, too. But my hd2 is perfect, cause I can have both. I just hope magldr gets support for winmo soon.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

As Android has been ported to the HD2 using the SDCard I started to test it, and I noticed that my Android HD2 was much more fast and smooth than using WM.
As soon as the NAND Android version was available, I flashed my HD2 with MAGLDR and installed Android, and I think I'll never rollback, maybe to test WM7 on HD2, but that's the only real reason that would make me rollback to WM.

Not used WinMo once since i first tried out an Android SD Rom in October, and just switched to a NAND build.
Used WinMo since i got my first XDA, an XDA Exec, but i sure wouldn't go back now

If only winmo had better native UI, more finger friendly, and more official support from the popular services (e.g. twitter, dropbox, better facebook app, whatsapp, etc). Then I'd still think winmo is a better and more professional os than android.

luffyp said:
If only winmo had better native UI, more finger friendly, and more official support from the popular services (e.g. twitter, dropbox, better facebook app, whatsapp, etc). Then I'd still think winmo is a better and more professional os than android.
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Have you tried SPB mobile shell? Give the free trial a go then look up version 5 and try not to drool and shake your fists in frustration that it's not available to consumers yet

hachuah said:
Garmin Mobile XT. There is no Garmin GPS software on Android (and I have many Garmin maps)
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This!
I'd feel much safer out in the boondocks with Garmin than I do with Copilot. I tried looking up directions to a golf course once and it wasn't in Copilot - the course has been open more than 10 years!
Even though I've gone full nand android, I certainly wouldn't mind if I could giving up say 50-75mb of nand space for a slim winmo 6.5 dual boot.

xaccers said:
Have you tried SPB mobile shell? Give the free trial a go then look up version 5 and try not to drool and shake your fists in frustration that it's not available to consumers yet
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Yes, I tried it and have used it on my MDA, Wing, Omnia I900 and even have it installed and running on my HD2. However, SPB has been saying since October 2010 that it will be supporting Android soon. Well here it is, Jan 2011 and soon apparently is still not here. LOL
So, what is the point of 'drooling' at something that is not there. SPB demonstrated V5 back in Feb 2010. One more month and its been 1 YEAR.
I use Android on my HD2 and would not go back to WM regardless of version and whatever SPB has or will have. Their support is non-existant.
I use LauncherPro Plus and it far exceeds SPB Mobile Shell.

hachuah said:
Garmin Mobile XT. There is no Garmin GPS software on Android (and I have many Garmin maps)
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+1 same reason for me, IGo or Sygic maps are far from being as good or up to date, copilot map doesn t even exist where i live. I switch to winmo when i take the car to use garmin.
Also i miss a few dictionaries not yet available in Android. And here with edge available only , online dictionaries are really to slow.

WTF is Windows Mobile?

Anyone still use WM6.5?

Thinking about giving it a go, been running my HD2 on Android and WP7 for so long now, anyone still use it daily?

THUDUK said:
Thinking about giving it a go, been running my HD2 on Android and WP7 for so long now, anyone still use it daily?
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As you see in my sig below, I currently run Athine OS.
I dont need Android HD2 anymore. too many problems occur that cause bad blocks in its NAND.
Cheers..

Yea, I still use it. Oh, don't get me wrong. I tried Android and WP7. I just don't think they gave me enough reason to switch over completely. Occasionally boot Android but that's mainly because my son likes Fruit Ninja.
Edit: I run Dutty's 6.5.x ROM.

Cenobite_ said:
Yea, I still use it. Oh, don't get me wrong. I tried Android and WP7. I just don't think they gave me enough reason to switch over completely. Occasionally boot Android but that's mainly because my son likes Fruit Ninja.
Edit: I run Dutty's 6.5.x ROM.
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same for me but reverse is true.aftrer finding vplayer advnce ang moboplayer i dont need wm.it sucks.now on dhd rafdroid build.

I've just gone back to winmo, had nand android and wp7 but with micro usb probs gone back to winmo and quite happy

after 3 phones my 4th works perfect, and it does make a big difference, no freezes random shutoffs, reboots it works perfect and i am very happy with it. plus i am tired of tweaking the phone and modding it, i just want to use and enjoy it. i will go to android someday, i love what my friends android's do, but i am stickin with 6.5 and sense, and cht. it is so nice when you get a great running phone. i do not have to even clear temp files anymore, even though i do every while, when i think of it.

Heading back to winmo as soon as I get a few hours to update my kitchen.
Bored of android, no clue how to tweak it, miss the registry.

Yes love it to the max...
Best smartphone os ever..

I have to say I am amazed anyone is still using winmo, Android is stable on the HD2, if you are finding it not so you are doing something wrong
Could'nt go back to winmo now, would missed all the games and other apps you just cant get with winmo. The only thing I miss a little is the performance of coreplayer but some of the new video app releases are nearly there now.
+ nobody is really developing for winmo anymore, closed platform, let it die in peace people

Still the one for me
I've been using WM since the Pocket PC Phone 2003 version. I really like it. I don't play many games, but I have dozens of applications that I have collected over the years (mostly free), and the HD2 runs WM better than any phone I've owned. I also like the fact that I can customize it using the registry, and the integration with MS Office applications, including Outlook.
I have Android on my tablet, but I prefer WM.

The only reason that I have Android on my HD2 (SD card version) is so that I can play with SPB Mobile 3D. Other than that, I still love WinMo. It does what I want it to do better than the other OS's available.
Android and WP7 run well, if not a bit heavy on battery. But at the end of the day, I always end up with WinMo 6.5 as my daily driver.

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I have to say I am amazed anyone is still using winmo, Android is stable on the HD2, if you are finding it not so you are doing something wrong
Could'nt go back to winmo now, would missed all the games and other apps you just cant get with winmo. The only thing I miss a little is the performance of coreplayer bult some of the new video app releases are nearly there now.
+ nobody is really developing for winmo anymore, closed platform, let it die in peace people
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Glad you like Android on your HD2 and everyone is untitled to their preceded OS. But from your post Windows Mobile was not an OS for you anyway as Win Mo is more occasion true power users OS and a business oriented OS. Not for people that like to play games and just use social networks. Win Mo gives you a true mobile computing capabilities where Android is still paling so much in this area in my opinion. So you see your statement that "if you are finding it not so you are doing something wrong" is totally incorrect as if it was not for Win Mo you would not have Android or IOS. You see Win Mo was the first true mobile OS and any other OS is simply just playing catch up in my mind. Yes Android,Wp7, and IOS all run smoother than Win Mo but all lack the true functionality of Win Mo. I you ask me Microsoft shot their self in the foot when they decided to stop development of Win Mo and created WP7 unless WP7 makes massive leaps in the next year. Also there is still plenty of development of Windows Mobile, I regularly see articles on Windows Mobile in the XDA portal like at least tw to three times a week. No harm meant friend just speaking my opinion
Now as far as the subject at hand I am currently running Hyperdriid from NAND. Which I have to say I like, I only went NAND though to see what all the fuss was about and for the hands on experience of it, I have only been running NAND for three weeks. But like member Samsamueal I will probably be going back to Win Mo before long. I do not like the way copy and past works on Android. I not like how the task managers in Android work, tasked more time to close a application. I absolutely hate that the Android keyboard does not have directional buttons on it,the little arrow icon thing is total crap as far as actually being usable, and you have to hit the symbol button to get any symbol where in Win Mo you do not. I do not like the fact that you can not choice where you want to download files to or save files to, and when you save pictures from mms you can not choose where they go. You have to save to the default location then manually move them to where you want them. You just have a app tray not a true started menu that you can navigate similar to a real computer. You can not have a file to just save games in and then assess from the app tray to cut down on clutter the same is true with any other thing you would want to do this with like tools, media, and etc.Android is still playing catch up in the functionality area to me
Peace

is it coincidence that ive come across this thread after returning to winmo from a few days on android?? no......its fate... fate I tells ya.....
Anyway... yeah lots of people still use WM.
If it had a decent forum reading app i wouldn't need Android at all.....

I'm trying to use android daily - there are a lot of things I like about it. However, when I need a rock solid performance (i.e. on a business trip, etc.) I reboot back into winmo 6.5. I know it, what it does, how long the battery will last, etc. I also know what it doesn't do, that Android does better (imho). I think there is more flexibility in apps on android. But the open platform causes issues. It's why quite a lot of people use the Office suite from MS. They know what to expect.
I'm very happy to have the opportunity to play with the phone.
Kris

samsamuel said:
Heading back to winmo as soon as I get a few hours to update my kitchen.
Bored of android, no clue how to tweak it, miss the registry.
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True that's my main problem with android I really don't know how to tweak it. But with wm just edit registry reboot. Your done. Really Hate microsft for not updating this powerful os if they had they act together nobody could touch them with wm. Even yrs of neglect from microsoft look what the devs manage to do with the thing. I love showing my friends all of the oses am able to run. Wm will always be 1, as for microsoft am done with them never will buy their product because they very old and stupid people working there it seems. When Steve Jobs announced the iphone even at $600 with a 2yrs ballmer bald ass was just laughing while Steve Jobs was working on the iphone and boom who's laughing now bald ass. Microsft had what 90 percent of the mobile marketing share. Than 600 yrs later they give us that feature less wanna ios crap they call windows phone 7. Lol Microsoft had as much if not more followers than apple did with the iPhone. I mean we still use wm till this day. Microsoft simply let us down.
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I still use WM 6.5.
Everything you need, everything is smooth, everything you want.

I thought I would go back and try WM6.5...
Now I have the latest EnergyROM
Things I realise that I have missed since messing about with Android and Windows Phone...
1) SENSE UI on wm is superp, the lackluster effort with the Android version just doesn't compare and the HTC HUB on WP7 well not worth even mentioning. Although the weather animations are completely unnecessary, they are truly a thing of beauty compared to the simpler Android effects.
2) Email TAB is so slick to use, finger flick through your emails, likewise with the photo tab, twitter tab is brilliant, probably similar to the Android Sense version, although WM6.5 Sense severely lacks any Facebook TAB that is of any use.
3) Calendar that is so easy to use its laughable, on WM6.5 native calendar you can simply press hold cut and flick to another date and paste your appointments, I have never come across any calendar in Android and the WP7 one certainly doesn't allow this, its probably one of the things I do most, is move appointments onto the next day
4) Had to pick up some glass from a company yesterday, opened Google maps and was amazed just how more information is shown on the maps within WM compared to Androids, found 7 satellites within seconds, 3G picked up the company, had a route on the map within a minute of opening the app, super fast and never dropped internet connection, which often happened with the Android builds used, although WP7 was equally as stable, the Bing maps are not quite upto the Google ones. OK Android has the turn by turn google map navigation, but I prefer the top down google map views to the 3D type turn by turn stuff.
5) Went out for a run last night, started up Run.GPS, instant Satelites found, clicked on the bluetooth headphones, yet again instantly found and working, started the music and I was yet again amazed and had completely forgotten just how nice the sound is through the HD2 running WM6.5, with the audio booster on even through the bluetooth headphones the music sound was crisp clear and bass deep, the voice responses through run.GPS are so clear and human like were as the voices on Android versions have a more robotic edge, even Marathon and Endomondo on WP7 are not so clear. on my 7 mile hour run never lost a sattelite and the music played perfectly not a skip anywhere, bliss, when I got back I uploaded the gpx file and compared it to the runkeeper, endomondo and rungps Android gpx files of the same run done a few days ago, and to my amazement the smoothness and accuracy of the WM version was far superior.
6) Multi Tasking, what I forgot was I still had so many apps running in the background without any problem, the superb arkswitch shows up I had, these running at the same time.
tmail, file explorer, tasks, run.gps, googlemaps, bbc news, facebook app, calendar, calculator and internet with dropbox page loaded.
7) Battery life on my usual run as mentioned above on most Android builds both NAND and SD would drop from 100% to around 60%, where as last night it only dropped to 75%.
I probably am starting to sound like an advert for WM, I am not I thought by going over to Android and then when I put WP7 on my HD2 I would never look back, but actually WM is pretty fantastic, except for its application marketplace, which is such a shame all microsoft need to do was improve the marketplace, introduce a new UI like the metro one for WM and re-market it.
Using Windows mobile is like running a PC on a small hand-held you can USB link instantly with your computer, drag and drop stuff that will actually work, you can download files from the internet and save them anywhere you like, you can pull out your SD card and not have any problems then pop it back in and the files will be instantly viewable.
YES there are some very good games on Windows mobile, Ferrari GT HD2 accelerometer version is graphically brilliant and runs like a dream, huff and puff is similar to angry birds and looks good but none of these windows mobile games come close to the Android or Windows Phone versions and choice, I particularly love wordsmith/words with friends on Android and AlphaJax and words by post on WP7, there is nothing like this on Windows mobile.
Basically Windows mobile is probably the best operating system on a phone, but its let down by its marketplace, lack of development in applications for gaming and social media.
I will probably end up flashing wp7 when the HD2 NODO update eventually gets here, running Android from the SD dual boot yet again, just because some of those applications are too good to miss. its a shame because windows mobile is superior in my opinion.

I use WM 6.5 daily for work, PDA, my hobby, game, music, and many. WM6.5 is very good.
As the price down, I purchased another HD2 this month. My opinion is to purchase more HD2 if I have money.
I am using Artemis v57 and installed Cookie Home Tab and CHT Editor. That's so great

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Thinking about giving it a go, been running my HD2 on Android and WP7 for so long now, anyone still use it daily?
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Yes! I currently use the stock 3.14 rom!
I don't have trouble in daily activities!

I have a pure vanilla 6.5 (fully patched with all HTC's updates) and can safely say I won't need to faff about with it until my next phone comes along. It still scares me with what this phone can do!

Tempted to move over to WP7

Ive been using my hd2 for a long while now on android and its been superb. But I still look over at WM7 forums am im very tempted to give it ago.
Is everything working now on the newer releases?? Whats the battery life like?
Some one sell me WP7
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Baker0

i have my htc hd2 long time i test more then 150 roms on 6.5 version , and andorid , i admit android is a nice room , i start using wm7 nodo version ,its realy amazing rom , very fast rom ( similar iphone) no bugs . this room was made for internet and entretainment users.
1-the battery life is ok almost 40h using like a normal mobilephone, but need a ]trick ,]bcs wm7 on hd2 have a drivers problm in camera its make drain battery more then normal but with the trick u resolve that , the other problem is no aplication to use wifi router on wm7 .
2-in wm7 we cant type the number and show the name like in 6.5 rom , u need go to your phone list to search the name you want to call.~~
3-wm7 not suported outlook to sync the contacts , u need have a Key FROM microsoft to conect ur windows live acount and from there u can pass all your contacts
since hd2 official not suported wm7 , and wm7 is so good on hd2 , try using that u will never go back to others roms
i hope this information is helpful for u change....

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Ive been using my hd2 for a long while now on android and its been superb. But I still look over at WM7 forums am im very tempted to give it ago.
Is everything working now on the newer releases?? Whats the battery life like?
Some one sell me WP7
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Baker0
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I have tried WP7 and it is truely a smooth operating system on the HD2. For me, there are two fundamental problems with WP7 which ruin the experience. The camera driver is still terrible - never use flash and no auto focus. Also the multitouch only works if you place your two fingers down at exactly the same time.
If you don't use the camera, and you can live with the dodgy multitouch - it is a great ROM.

there is a software camera .006 it correct the problem about the auto focus . with that, the pic show nice.

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I have tried WP7 and it is truely a smooth operating system on the HD2. For me, there are two fundamental problems with WP7 which ruin the experience. The camera driver is still terrible - never use flash and no auto focus. Also the multitouch only works if you place your two fingers down at exactly the same time.
If you don't use the camera, and you can live with the dodgy multitouch - it is a great ROM.
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On top of these what kills it for me is that there is not a good navigation program. Other than that it is pretty damn awesome.

The current non-Sense Android ROMs are actually working perfectly on our HD2s, the biggest problem (for me) is the battery life. WP7 however has some issues on the HD2.
First of all you have to have an SD card that works (correctly) with WP7. Then, if you move to WP7 you will find yourself in a less open environment: less apps, no usb drive option, less control of your phone. You will also lose some Google functionalities you had in Android (Navigation app, sync multiple calendars, maps). You will lose flash support. You will have to call Microsoft for an activation code if you want the live services (access to market apps). This brings a lot of pain in the a$s...
BUT! If your installation is successful you will have a very smooth OS with a great integration of facebook and google contacts synchronization. With Zune software you can synchronize your phone with your movies and music. You will get a pretty good battery life and a fully functioning phone. I flashed a WP7 ROM last week and i think I'll stick with it for a while.
Hope this helps

Thank you for your help, camera is a big one for me.... Does USB tethering work?

I'll chime in not to necessarily "sell it" but coming from a strictly WinMo background. I have Android on SD, but I've refused to have it as a main OS simply because WM has been everything I needed for years. I'm not an "app"er, could care less about market saturation, as long as I can find, somehow, the tools I need for day to day.
Coming from that background, I decided to give WP7 a go about 2 weeks ago when finally nodo was available to us on HD2. So far its been a double edged sword to me. I miss my openness already. That's my first thoughts. I miss being able to transfer files on the fly and even as simply as move files internally to deep level private folders. In WM6.5 I was to the point of using my phone as a boot-able agent for PC repairs. I would have said I miss syncing directly to Outlook, because for almost 10 years that's where all of my contacts have been stored and backed up, but MS forced me to make an exchange server with Office 2010. I think I'd be damned if I had to move my info online to an external server. Though I did activate my phone to Live, the only cloud service I use is the marketplace. Another thing I miss a lot is Sense, lol I know silly but I absolutely loved that interface.
And what I'm liking about WP7 so far, is one of the main pushes for the phone, that it is a nice neat little interface (though I really wish someone would hack sense into it). Its fast, very fast, and easy to use (which isn't really that big a deal to me because I thrive on difficult and complicated, and used to love having a phone I knew not many people could just pick up and get into), but it is very easy none the less. The marketplace has so far had a ton of apps that I do use almost daily now (which is making it harder for me to think about re-flashing 6.5). Actually the apps are the only things that's keeping me from going back at the moment. I kind of feel like I want to wait for Mango and more hacks so I can have my control back, but damned if I won't miss some of the apps.
Battery life is a bit spotty for me, because I live in a rural area at the moment and if I don't turn on airplane mode when I get home, drain down to nothing in a matter of a hours. I did a test the other day while I was out and had full H and staring from almost 100% went through about 45 min of a 93 min movie from netflix and battery was almost dead. I've learned though, the way I use my phone no matter what OS, I have to charge it all the time anyways.
That's my report, hope it helps ;-)
edit: there is a workaround for tethering with DFrouter but its sort of like the USB Storage workaround.

Long time WinMo user that made the switch with NoDo. I haven't shot any photos that required flash, but the photos I have taken with the camera were fine. I got an activation code via chat in 5 minutes or so, so that wasn't and issue. I went through the hassle of formatting my card to allow me to load Android, so when I do need to tether, I have that option.
My biggest complaint so far is the sound is overdriven, which seems to be fixable via registry tweak. In spite of loading Tom's xap, I haven't been able to successfully side-load an app that will let me work the registry a bit. But that's operator error, at some point I'll figure out what I'm doing wrong.
I just checked into NRG's 6.5 thread to see if there was anything new, a habit that will take me a long time to break. At this point, I don't see myself going backwards. I much prefer WP7 over Android, and though there is one app I really miss from WinMo (SplashID), I've found workarounds for the rest. I much prefer the e-mail and calendar interfaces on WP7, and it I'll admit it is kind of nice to have some cool, high graphics games on my day-to-day OS. Having been a smart phone user forever, I'm used to having chargers and battery spares, so battery life isn't much of a consideration for me.
I highly recommend you give it a try. Worst case, you just flash back. Good Luck!

I was in the same boat you are in right now, but there was no way to move away from Android. My love for Android and my loyalty are true to the core. What did I do? I got both. I have 16GB MicroSD Card Class 10 and with sick video guide from 96edwy I now have Dual Boot HTC HD2 running XBmod v1.10 NODO and American Android 2.3.2 !!!
Like everyone else I had my period of "Flash Madness" where I flashed about 5 times a day but it slowed down few months ago with new job and all. My ultimate solution: I have best of both worlds!!! Nirvana state of mind....
I love my Android, but I also love WP7 and right now mobile device gods are smiling on me

What OS to use...
Hi all, I tried them all on HD2 WM 6.5, 6.5.X,Froyo on SD,WP7 and finally stuck on Ginger in ROM. What is best for you depends on what kind of user you are. For example - I'm not into gaming on my phone, I don't have a facebook or twitter acc and couldnt care less about social networking,I use email extensively, care about outlook integration, office docs, use a lot of browsing, watch a lot of youtube and news aps...
WM 6.5(.X)
GOOD
- Looks great (the weather animations are so cool, the tabs are functional and fun way to use the phone)
- Has USB storage mode
- Has USB and WiFi tethering capability
- Can sync with outlook mail and contacts or any other mail with such ease that flashing and putting it back to running state takes less than 5 minutes
- Has a ton of GREAT GPS apps like iGo etc
- Best battery life of HD2 is of course on a original 6.5 ROM, nothing you flash will top that
- Skype works, although a very old version that you have to install yourself
- Can be used until the battery is dead and then recharged without a problem (not like android or wp7 ports)
- You can customize the home screen with addons like cookies home tab etc, lo limited customization is available (no widget support like in android etc)
- From just a month ago you can enjoy high res YouTube videos
BAD
- Sometimes laggy
- Browsing experience is ages behind Android and WP7, no flash support etc
- Camera is bad compared to the one on Andoird for example
- Live wallpapers are not as good as the ones on android and theres so few to choose from
- No universal search option (like on Android or BB devices)
- Gaming suck
- Development is dying or almost dead
WP7
GOOD
- Soooooo cool looking, fastest interface ever, extra intuitive and modern
- Mail app is great, very well thought trough and nice looking
- The best social networking integration, deeply into contacts
- Great gaming experience with xbox live
BAD
- Camera is only usable trough an external app, the built in is ****ty
- No direct outlook sync
- Has to be activated with MS
- No usb or wifi tethering
- No usb flash mode
- No GPS apps whatsoever, not even Google maps
- Live tiles are cool but third party apps cant really use their full potential (solved in upcoming Mango release but you'll have to wait for like a year to get it)
- No skype
- No universal search option (like on Android or BB devices), the search button is reserved for Bing search (maybe I'm wrong on this one, but as I recall you cant get to contacts so easly)
- A very long and thus very hard to use app drawer
- Cant use your own mp3 ringtones (might be wrong on this one correct me if I'm way off here)
- No real multitasking
- multitouch is implemented poorly
Android
GOOD
- Great looking interface, live wallpapers etc
- A lot of apps and games (best YouTube app ever, Skype is working fine etc.
- I just cant live without the universal search option I use all the time, so where ever you might be in the interface you are one button click away from your contacts or google search
- Has available GPS navigation software from Google maps to iGo etc.
- Great social networking apps but those options are not so deeply built in to the OS like in wp7
- USB and wifi tethering is working (not in my build for some reason but I can live without this option)
- USB flash mode working
- Multitasking
- The best camera on HD2 (a lot better than the one on the original rom)
- multitouch wirks just fine
BAD
- Battery life is bad even on phones designed for Android, let alone on ported ones
- No direct outlook sync ( a big minus for me, but not necessarily for everyone)
So, if you look at the pros and cons, the result is - your HD2 is the most functional with Android, then with good old WM 6.5 and at the end with WP7. WP7 needs to be polished, regardless of the quality of the HD2 port which is very close to the real thing. Mango update is coming this fall, but a lot of things are not addressed in it and MS need in my humble opinion another year to fix all missing bits...

Well i think everyone has said pretty much everything there is to say, i think all the bad points have been mentioned
all i would say is this,
WP7 is a different OS, its nothing like previous OS platforms on the HD2, you cant compare them as they are for different markets.
I was/am a heavy WM user, WM is a beast of an OS and there is nothing it cant do except games, had Microsoft not been completely shafted by OEMs, QC and the networks, WM would have been a modern day contender, as it is however it may be a beast of an OS but it isnt pretty and its laggy.
I tried Android for quite a while and i just found it fragmented, apart from games which isnt something i use there is little to know benifit over WM, yeah it looks good and is smoother but i just got board with it to be honest. its less functional than WM but is smoother, the UI is not much of an improvment in my opinion.
So i tried WP7, to start with i thought it was crap, very little functionality to the other two, very smooth, but then something odd happened, the UI just grew on me, the intigration of the OS became somthing i thought was great, it took about 2-4 weeks before i suddenly realised i absolutely love the thing, so i tried dropping back to Android for a while and i hated it.
in short, WP7 changes the way in which you use the device, the best and most accurate way of looking at it is, Windows Mobile is the best pocketPC platform out there (not including games) Windows Phone is the best SMARTPHONE out there, there is a difference, i have a second device which runs WM now, im longing for the day someone can port WM to an SD card

Yep, couldnt agree more with dazza. WP7 is all about PHONE experience! Most of us are not app freaks and use our PHONE primarily as a communication device, not a gaming platform or a replacement for a compass or a GPS device... All those devices do a better job on their own than any hybrid will so bottom line, WP7 takes me where I wanna be - focused on communicating with people - I can quickly get to my contacts, check what they've been up to, read and send emails and texts, send them a pic or two, surf the web a bit... And no other OS right now does that better, faster and cooler than WP7. Period.

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Yep, couldnt agree more with dazza. WP7 is all about PHONE experience! Most of us are not app freaks and use our PHONE primarily as a communication device, not a gaming platform or a replacement for a compass or a GPS device... All those devices do a better job on their own than any hybrid will so bottom line, WP7 takes me where I wanna be - focused on communicating with people - I can quickly get to my contacts, check what they've been up to, read and send emails and texts, send them a pic or two, surf the web a bit... And no other OS right now does that better, faster and cooler than WP7. Period.
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Only if the battery life is better Its only 6 hours from the last full charge and the battery is already down by half

Roxxx
Yeahhh..
I think WP7 on HD2 is awesome!
I also at first thought, that its missing functionality, like file managers, copying files to device and back etc.. The GPS and so on.
But i must say, WP7 is awesome, the integration into Facebook, the browser, the mail client is fantastic. It was not made to be like WM 6.5 etc, this is something on its own....
And it is really growing on all of us
Looking forward to the updates, and more software to be added.
We just have to live with the short battery life!

Windows Phone Device Manager
Also....
I am not sure if some of you guys have checked this out?
http://www.touchxperience.com/
This is a beta project, and its awesome! Allows custom ringtones, copy files to device and back. This is going to be great.
Try it out!