Save BeyondPod! - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

The developer of BeyondPod - possibly one of the best podcatcher/RSS readers available - has decided to focus more on the Android platform and less on WinMo. As anyone who has tried to use BeyondPod on any of the 6.5 builds knows, there are a number of issues with the way it renders feeds (missing scroll bars, no text size control, no finger scrolling, etc). Basically the program needs to be updated to support the new version of IE in 6.5.
This would also be an oppurtunity for anyone interested in the future of BeyondPod on WinMo to take over its development. The project is open source, and there are a number of possible improvements that could make this app even better (feed search, apptodate support, homescreen plugin, etc). The dev would be more than happy to have the help.
Couple links here:
BeyondPod home page
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/
BeyondPod source
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/SourceControl/ListDownloadableCommits.aspx
Discussion on 6.5 issues
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/Thread/View.aspx?ThreadId=53878
Anyone interested in tackling this project? Or is there an even better alternative out there for those of us who want to get our podcast on?

No one cares? Or maybe I'm one of the few that do?
Guess I need to teach myself some programming skills . . .

Im using BeyondPod, great podcast software!

jeremy89632 said:
Im using BeyondPod, great podcast software!
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You might be using it now, but won't be for long . . . if you upgrade to WM6.5 or many cooked ROMs of WM6.1. That's the point of this thread.

TheDaddy said:
You might be using it now, but won't be for long . . . if you upgrade to WM6.5 or many cooked ROMs of WM6.1. That's the point of this thread.
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Can we try to petition or email them?
At least write an app for wm 6.5.
Than that will be ok.

jeremy89632 said:
Can we try to petition or email them?
At least write an app for wm 6.5.
Than that will be ok.
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Dude. Read the first post carefully. And follow the links.

I liked beyondpod but switched to speeedreader due to google reader sync. they should actually talk with each other, both have great features, combined it would be a killer app..
http://emuneee.wordpress.com/eeenno/speeed-reader/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516168&page=9

S200guy said:
I liked beyondpod but switched to speeedreader due to google reader sync. they should actually talk with each other, both have great features, combined it would be a killer app..
http://emuneee.wordpress.com/eeenno/speeed-reader/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516168&page=9
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Speedreader is no comparison to beyondpod. Beyondpod is the best software i've found by far for managing audio podcasts, multiple auto downloads, intuitive interface and integrated player with great playback and bookmarking features. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this awesome software and if anything out there is close or better I would like to know. I would almost abandon 6.5 just for Beyondpod, but 6.1 scrolling is so terrible that i cant do it. Beyondpod is one piece of software that would actually be worth paying for if it weren't already offered for free.

bruceo said:
Speedreader is no comparison to beyondpod. Beyondpod is the best software i've found by far for managing audio podcasts, multiple auto downloads, intuitive interface and integrated player with great playback and bookmarking features. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this awesome software and if anything out there is close or better I would like to know. I would almost abandon 6.5 just for Beyondpod, but 6.1 scrolling is so terrible that i cant do it. Beyondpod is one piece of software that would actually be worth paying for if it weren't already offered for free.
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SECOND that ... i would do it but I am no coder ... BOunty perhaps? or how can we get it done ?

The name defines, BEYONDPOD.
So yeah, this app is good.
Runs quite well on wm6,5, have to use the Dpad to scroll up and down though.
Able to download, listen and play audio and video and see podcast listing in wm 6.5

jeremy89632 said:
The name defines, BEYONDPOD.
So yeah, this app is good.
Runs quite well on wm6,5, have to use the Dpad to scroll up and down though.
Able to download, listen and play audio and video and see podcast listing in wm 6.5
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Was there an update? I have had at least 15 6.5 roms flashed and the content view in beyondpod was not working therefore rendering it useless for downloading. Sometimes you could see content view the first time you brought it up, but it would not refresh if you scrolled and would be blank the next time.
I would be up to adding to a bounty if necessary

bruceo said:
Was there an update? I have had at least 15 6.5 roms flashed and the content view in beyondpod was not working therefore rendering it useless for downloading. Sometimes you could see content view the first time you brought it up, but it would not refresh if you scrolled and would be blank the next time.
I would be up to adding to a bounty if necessary
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Oh, I dont notice this issue, as what you mentioned work perfectly fine, (Surprisingly) on my device.
I will check out and see how it goes.
Cheers.

Hi All,
jeremy89632 is right, if you just use your Dpad then the error doesn't occur. Another option I have found is that if you use the update and download option then that works as well.

I'm a .NET programmer and I think this is written in .NET. Let me take a peek at the source code for a few days and then I'll let you know if it is something I might want to tackle. I do a TON of development work in .NET but nothing on the mobile platform yet - this might be interesting. Plus, I've been looking for a good RSS/podcast reader myself!
/Chimp (Tom)

Tom, Def check it out it rocks for audio podcasts.
I seem to have found a temp workaround, which tells me a solution cannot be far off. When I go into content view and cannot see the content or it is messed up. I just switch my touch pro to landsacpe and the view is fine abd I can use the dpad to scroll. I will ususally just shift right back to landscape and the view remains perfect but dpad wont scroll until I first touch the screen, then it will dpad scroll with no problem. I can click and download feeds with no problem. I reduced the large text size in beyondpod settings. All the podcasts manage and playback fine but the volume is much lower than normal hard to hear even with mediaplayer and system volume at max. Volume in my other apps and mediaplayer is very loud as normal.

It it more complex than I thought. Also, is this only for a SmartPhone? Or is also for a WM Professional device? When I finally got it loaded into VS2008 it only showed a SmartPhone device.
I'll keep playing with it.
Chimp (Tom)

Definitely PPC touchscreens. On 6.1 it was pretty flawless and fairly finger friendly.

Hmm... It is definately showing up as a Smartphone only when I load it. I'll have to figure out how to switch it over to a PPC device (and also support a SmartPhone).

Well, as this app is for the touchscreen users, it is easier to squash bugs for users rather than to create a smartphone version and cause issues.

SimpTheChimp said:
Hmm... It is definately showing up as a Smartphone only when I load it. I'll have to figure out how to switch it over to a PPC device (and also support a SmartPhone).
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I downloaded the code, as well... I got it to successfully compile and run in the WM6.5 Pro emulator (with the stated problems). You need to change the target platform to WM 6 Pro.
Like you said, the code is really complex, but I kind of understand why, it's a great program, and I've missed it since I finally got 6.5 on my i910...
I don't have a lot of spare time, but I'll try to tackle this thing...

Related

Lets help eachother enjoy the X1 even more. What do you do on your X1?

I just got my X1, and the lag has got me down a bit :\
However, I'm still sure that its a great phone, and has tons of potential.
The thing is... before I got the phone, I had so many ideas of what I wanted to do with it. But now that I have it... I'm completely blank o_o
What have you guys been doing with your X1s?
How are you enjoying it?
Nippero said:
I just got my X1, and the lag has got me down a bit :\
However, I'm still sure that its a great phone, and has tons of potential.
The thing is... before I got the phone, I had so many ideas of what I wanted to do with it. But now that I have it... I'm completely blank o_o
What have you guys been doing with your X1s?
How are you enjoying it?
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The first thing is forget about the stock rom and try some cooked rom.
lol, well this is my first winmo phone, so I really dont know what I'm doing
No clue how to flash a new ROM and dont wanna risk bricking my phone by screwing up >.>
In addition to the regular texting and im'ing. I use it to listen to music watch movies, do quick editing on office suites, streaming with orb.Also used for taking photos and videos and uploading to facebook.
It all comes down to the apps I suppose.
Satnav
Podcasts (stupid word for audio streams)
RSS feeds
VNC
Minutes manager
Telemarketing blocker
C# IDE
It's like a little computer. There's not much it can't do. TV on demand would be nice.
at45 said:
It all comes down to the apps I suppose.
Satnav
Podcasts (stupid word for audio streams)
RSS feeds
VNC
Minutes manager
Telemarketing blocker
C# IDE
It's like a little computer. There's not much it can't do. TV on demand would be nice.
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what do you use for podcasting? and a C# environment???? (wow - which is that?)
"and a C# environment???? (wow - which is that?)"
http://www.geocities.com/hrowson/wm5_software/index.htm
Rudegar said:
"and a C# environment???? (wow - which is that?)"
http://www.geocities.com/hrowson/wm5_software/index.htm
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Yep, and pRSSreader will do all your podcasts if you enable 'download enclosures' in the settings.
Rudegar said:
"and a C# environment???? (wow - which is that?)"
http://www.geocities.com/hrowson/wm5_software/index.htm
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That is awesome!!! Being a .Net developer myself, i'm excited to try this one out...
the best thing i do is to unlock everything on my rom without flash them so i dont have to void my warrenty and got touch flo 3d pannel, coreplayer to watch high quality movies, i got a 16gb to store all of them!
I currently use on my X1:
-Subsembly FinPhone (real mobile banking from all over the connected world)
-TTQV Pathaway (Moving Map and GPS Tracking Software)
-Basic4ppc Version 5.80 (BASIC IDE for PPC)
-complex Pocket Excel sheets i.e. for forecasts, financial calculations,
budgeting, event planning
And: I'd really like to try vsNotepad (by VirtualSpaghetti) but it suffers from an uncalibrated UI
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C# IDE
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Please let me know about more about this IDE which sounds like to be one running on the PPC.
so short
snoman
Wow, sounds like you guys are all doing such professional things with your X1s
Im still trying to get used to mine and finding the right programs..
Where do you guys find your programs? Ive only looked at places like handango and getjar.
I use the following
Online:
Orb
Logmein
Windows Live Mesh
Google Maps
Offline:
Tomtom
Coreplayer
Resco File Explorer
Worms (awesome game)
snoman said:
Please let me know about more about this IDE which sounds like to be one running on the PPC.
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Well it's a C# IDE. Very nice too. Get it from here, and see what you think. It doesn't need to be installed: it just runs.
Speaking of cool apps for PocketPC, PocketBlender is a great idea, but I find it unfinished and unstable. Does anyone know of other free CAD viewers?
TrackMe is nice. Again, I'd be interested to hear of alternatives since Trackme depends on .net and an SQLserver.
Nicetrack looks to be brilliant, but it doesn't work on the X1. Apparently only a minor source-code tweak is needed to fix this.
Nippero said:
Where do you guys find your programs? I've only looked at places like handango and getjar.
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I just think what I want, then enter it into a search engine along with the words "for Windows Mobile" or "for PocketPC"
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This seems like a good place to mention OBD II on the X1. Somewhat of a challenge since we need to use the MicroSDIO for a comm interface, and www.obd2cables.com have a minimum order of 250pc for custom cables. OBD II is the thing which mechanics use to look at what's gone wrong with your car. I've not had any luck starting topics on the subject.
Nice one Pyrojester
I didn't realise LogMeIn was available for windows mobile. Now I can work while i'm away from work/home.
bluebirds1927 said:
Nice one Pyrojester
I didn't realise LogMeIn was available for windows mobile. Now I can work while i'm away from work/home.
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Awesome isn't it? Truly mobile computing.
hi pyrojester,
do u mind showing the URL where i can purchase the worms game?
- Watching movies
- Listening to music
- surfin the web
- read/write blogs
- phone stuff (of course)
- taking pics/vids
- tweaking the system *lol*
- mass storage
- office docs
- writing longer docs
- ...
I use it to access VNC computers or remote desktops. It's quite useful for FTP access too.
You can do pretty much what you want with it.
Though WVGA is great for VNC, remote desktop, FTP browsing, Corecodec, Xnview, TomTom, MSN (IM), and of course mails.
nothing as i amm still trying hard to tweak it LOL

Some very noob questions here

Hello all,
I have receintly upgraded to an Xperia X1 on Vodafone UK, coming from a very old out of date phone, it is quite a leap, though i am use to Windows mobile.
I have been reading some of the topics here and have come across some questions, which i hope some kind sole does not mind answering for me.
1) A lot of talk is about flashing ROMS, i assume this is some kind of upgrade to the firmware or OS. Would somebody mind just explaining what it is and why its of benifit.
2)Another thing that has generated a lot of talk is hard SPL, again what is this?
3) I am a keen gamer and want to get some good games up and running on my phone. Though a lot of what i try does not work, i have seen suggestion on other forums that a bit of software can help a lot of compatible games run. Does anybody know what it is i may require? I have seen a video on youtube of somebody running some FPS games is this fake or is it possible?
4) As a new Xperia owner i would also like some suggestions of anything that people think to be essential, to get the best out of my phone. Be these software, firmware upgrades ect. I have installed Batti and Xperia Tweak both of which have been extremely usefull.
Cheers in advance for any help.
1) Have you ever formatted your PC because it's full of junk and it's the only way to remove the crap and start a fresh? Bit like that with some ROM's. Others start from nothing and install programs for you. I find it best to use a clean ROM (Jacks) then install what I want on top.
2) Hard_SPL allows you to flash a new ROM onto the device.
3) FPS is possible but remember it is a phone at the end of the day. Alot of games run fine and the rest just need the VGA fix as it's a different resolution.
Hope that helps
Thanks for the swift and helpfull responce.
So if i was to flash a new rom would it speed up my phone any or stop/reduce all the random errors i get?
I have heard that i may need to install .net framework 3.5 onto my phone to get some of the games working. How easy and safe is this to do? I assume it is just like adding anyother software to my phone.
Yes I would (and have) installed 3.5 framework. It is easy to install and maintain as it's just a cab installer.
I use the Jacks 1.4 Lite ROM. It's much quicker than stock and is as stable as you make it really. I highly reccomend at least reading up about it.
The Mole said:
4) As a new Xperia owner i would also like some suggestions of anything that people think to be essential, to get the best out of my phone. Be these software, firmware upgrades ect. I have installed Batti and Xperia Tweak both of which have been extremely usefull.
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Well so far I've installed SPB Backup, which does pretty much what it says on the tin. Useful if you plan on doing any modding, I guess. I also stuck SPB time on there coz I needed a decent stopwatch. There's a neat little program called Touch Response that basically makes the phone vibrate slightly when you press the touchscreen. The strength of the vibrate can be configured. It's not essential but it gives a nice physical feedback which touch screens often lack. Flash 3.1 is available for download and works with the Opera 9.5 browser. Oh yeah, coreplayer's a good one too. I can't remember where I got all of these but there should be some links on here. You could also try www.xperia-x1.com or www.inexperia.com or www.modaco.com
My current software setup includes:
Resco Explorer - Nice touch-friendly file explorer with many options
Mini Stumbler - Helps you find wifi hotspots
Call Firewall - Nice people ditcher
Coreplayer - for playing videos with assorted codecs
G-Alarm - Cool alarm replacement, you have to solve a puzzle before being able to snooze it
Missed call reminder - beep reminder for missed calls
Newsbreak - RSS reader
Pocket Tunes - iTunes playlist sync for winmo
Resco Audio Recorder - lets you record voice notes and your own phone conversations
Spb Wireless Monitor - lets you run reports on internet usage
Stopwatch - standard stop watch
hTorch - turns your camera flash into a flashlight
This is why i sold my iphone to come back to windows mobile, it's sooo much flexible, I missed being able to mod my phone.
Thanks once again for the great responces and help, they have been of great use i will be getting a good 80% of what has been suggested, it sounds right up my street.

Just Bought an HD2 WICH Apps are really needed for daily use??

As you see the title! Please put some apps for HD2!
Thanks a LOT
Appreciate it!!
Wifi remote access for file transfers (if you have wifi in the house) because it's faster than a usb cable.
The newest version of the facebook app from MS marketplace
Pimbackup
dutty's task manager
I have more but they aren't for day to day use (except for maybe coreplayer but that's not free). Also search for tips and tweaks and have a read.
+1 Wifi Remote Access
G-Remote ($9) if you watch TV/video through your PC and want an ace remote control
TCMPMP Video Player (free) - so you can just drop videos straight on to your phone (like Divx and Xvid) and play them straight off (or CorePlayer but it's $30)
AlReader2 - The BEST ebook-reader bar none
Google Maps (obviously)
TomTom or iGo (both paid) are both great GPS navigators
FPSECE (I've not tried it since it came out of beta) which, for $10, gives you a frickin' PLAYSTATION on your phone!!!
MyPlayer (free) is the WM iPlayer equivalent - plus other freeview channels and live TV (assuming you're UK)
And down the line, consider looking at how to flash ROMs etc. if you want more tabs/newer features/better speed and stability (if you choose the right ROM!)
There's a Torch application (free) which uses your flash as an emergency torch - very bright and very handy!
Oh, and Windows MyPhone is (imo) the best way to back-up contacts, texts, etc.
Lastly, need a game for the bus? Try Experiment 13 - it's free and the graphics/physics are great!
Oh, and want to replace the basic mp3 player? Try S2P, very colourful, and fast to navigate, very similar to the iphone music player if you've seen that - although it's just left beta and is now $4 (although probably an old version about)
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All of these are findable on XDA. Finally, welcome to the forum!!
Hrs of fun ahead
j.gigola said:
As you see the title! Please put some apps for HD2!
Thanks a LOT
Appreciate it!!
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firstly download marketplace to get microsoftmyphone very useful
Mainly download cookies 1.8&editor you'll end up tweaking your hd2 more than playing with apps I find.
Come back to this section very often as you'll always find something new all the time.
Most of all enjoy its f'in gr8
11calcal said:
firstly download marketplace to get microsoftmyphone very useful
Mainly download cookies 1.8&editor you'll end up tweaking your hd2 more than playing with apps I find.
Come back to this section very often as you'll always find something new all the time.
Most of all enjoy its f'in gr8
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I happen to know that there are some major issues with cookies home tab 1.8. Don't you think recommending a piece of know buggy software (no matter how good previous versions were) is a bit reckless?
M3PH said:
I happen to know that there are some major issues with cookies home tab 1.8. Don't you think recommending a piece of know buggy software (no matter how good previous versions were) is a bit reckless?
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what like?, seems to works ok for me........
donwhann said:
what like?, seems to works ok for me........
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There seem to be serveral crash bugs in it, major slow down issues and from what i can gather it's a bit of a mess. All the custom rom threads are on fire with request for 1.7 cabs (fools should have kept backups) and declarations of wishing to wait till 1.8.1
Personally i think sense is perfectly fine for my needs. It just need s kick in the butt to make it faster when it's after it's first boot.
donwhann said:
what like?, seems to works ok for me........
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I've not had no problems with cookies 1.8. I think it actually runs much smoother and is far more customizable than previous versions, no issues so far from a mess, anyways he was asking for opinions on apps & I gave mine
I like Bing for movie times. It also has turn-by-turn directions. Map-wise, I think Google Maps looks better, but Bing is a far sleeker application.
No issues from 1.8 for me... But let's keep this thread on track for our newbie friend, right?
To newbie : Cookie's Home Tab is a fantastic modification to your homepage, which provides you with many more shrtocuts on your homepage and tons of other configurations (such as a music player, task-list etc), but as you can see, the latest version may be buggy. Previous versions are stable as anything tho.
Thanks!
Thank you all for your quick responses!! LovE YA ALLLL!
i think everyone forgot to mention office mobile 2010 and i forgot to mention the following:
Leo Cpu speed
Chainfire's 3D driver patch
BSB tweaks
SRS wowhd 2.1
myriad java
vncviewer
And if you like gaming and a bit of nostalgia try out fpsece. It's a playstation emulator
just about to type BSB tweaks and saw the post above..
Fpsece - a must
skyfire - for browsing flash sites like tvcatchup.com
xda shutdown - handy for a quick reset
HDWalls - full screen wallpaper
JWMD icon changer - change all icons in start menu etc.
LeoCPU speed
world cup app - www.mobilepractices.com
Scilors Groove Mobile/Downloader - stream or download any tune
G-Alarm - not free but very good alarm app
mem maid or SKTools - to clean up your HD2
my Player - great bbc iplayer and live TV app (in the UK)
Sky - (if you've got a sky box you can remote record)
Games....
Mini Golf Wacky Worlds
SPB Puzzle
Experiment 13
Pool Rebel
Ivy the Kiwi
Morphgear
Fpsece (so good I put it in twice!)
that should keep you going for a bit!
if your gonna suggest the world cup application then i'll suggest the F1 live timing application. Watching the canadian grand prix on sunday with it was amazing.
My essentials are:
1. Dial-up Enabler/Disabler
2. NETCFv35
3. RegEdit
4. Remote Tracker (with MyMobiler on the PC)
5. SPB TV
6. WunderRadio
7. Total Commander
Navi: MN7
Other: GPS Weather Radar, mobiPocket Reader with Wikipedia (2008)
Works fine alltogether!
Greetings
oldT830man (now a new HTC HD2 man, but I keep my T830)
Hello All, thanks for this thread, very useful. One question, what is the right regeditor?
I have used TCM, but can't figure out how to import reg keys (tweaks exported to save effort next time I hard reset). PHM regeditor seems to have the import keys greyed out. Mobile registry editor and Tascal seem to import files, but the keys don't actually change. Am I just a n00b and missing something?
Figured it out, simply copy the reg file into the registry root. TCM does it all then!
i use remote desktop client to log onto my pc im suprised more people dont use it as often as i do to control their pc its so easy to set up
all u got to do is right click my computer, properties and enable remote connections from there.
then when ur on your own wifi just connect to the pc's hostname or ip.
forward port 3389 on ur router to your desktop pc and you can do it over the internet too by connecting to your external ip / hostname
i use it a lot to do stuff i cant do on my phone, also if i want to download something when im out i can set it and it will be done when i get home etc
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i also play emulators and just installed as many tower defense games as i could find.
tomtom and igo... both installed to memory card and the shortcuts are set up to reinstall when i flash. the settings DO save, but i have addresses set in my contacts anyway and tomtom has the feature to look up from your addressbook
i use torch on my shortcuts, but a different one that doesnt have a user interface its just on and off.
i have my brightnesses (both) set to dimmest, and i have the app autobacklight as a shortcut so i can switch between dark and auto (which is always bright enough). its usually on auto unless im in a dark environment. 1 click dim mode lol
batti is another good one. there are lots of programs like batti that let you put your battery level accross the top of the screen, but batti is the best to me because it lets you customise the colours perfectly so you can match it to whatever colour theme you got going on or just have it how you want it.
i used to use s2u2 because you could change the background randomly and show lots of appointments on the main screen. and read texts check missed called etc. dont even have to unlock your phone half the time...
i just installed omarket and that has unlocked a lot for me. you should def do that. i had to make an account on the website but it was worth the hassle.
metaldetector is a great app. so wierd how it actually works.
i have various guitar tuners, im still looking for the best one though...
lmt is another good one that basically makes your phone way more useable. i dont use all the features, but its still added a lot to the way i can use the phone
i read some pdf's on my phone now that it doesnt take ages to render pages...
ive used wififofum in the past, i should have that on my phone now really its v useful when you wanna see all the networks around you.
msn to chat once in a while
mostly been using energyrom
Hello
I am totally new with HD2
I am reading all your post and i will be thankfull if some one can explain me some question:
1) how to install all this stuff on my HD2
2) what should be first stuff to install
dusancurcin said:
Hello
I am totally new with HD2
I am reading all your post and i will be thankfull if some one can explain me some question:
1) how to install all this stuff on my HD2
2) what should be first stuff to install
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the most common way is to plug your hd2 into your pc via usb.
then copy the files you have downloaded (usually its .cab) and paste them onto your phones sd card storage (via my computer)
then unplug your phone from the pc
then on your phone, use file explorer to find the cabs and run them. that will install it.
then to run it, find it in the start menu...
as for what to install first, system stuff.
but really, if you install a rom you will wipe all your data, but dont worry about flashing and roms yet, just try out different apps and customisations you like while you pick it all up.
i install things like s2u2 first (lockscreen app) when ive set my phone up i use it for a while before i install the next thing, so that if a problem pops up its usually because of the last thing you installed/modified.
read a lot of stuff. dont worry if it doesnt make sense at first.
After you install all those recomended applications above,try a keyboard called Swype,your head will hit the roof with amazement!! so be careful.

What Android Can't Do But WinMo Can -- an Android Lover's Thread

I now view my HD2 as "An Android Phone That Also Boots Windows", because there are some daily driver Android builds that I think do a better job now than winmo, so maybe knowing what unsolvable Android issues are solved by windows will improve the Android experience and save hours of searching the Market. I would recommend someone buy an HD2 for Android, but keep these windows apps around as an "android add on pack" just to increase the 'cool factor.'
1.) Movie Maker: with TrakAx movie maker you can make and edit videos on your hd2 and add music photos etc, with cool transitions. It has limited fonts for captions, but it's a good movie maker. The app is fun to use 'only after' you watch TrakAx's tutorial video on their website where a cute English Gal shows you how easy it is.
2.) Movies/TV via your Orb Server that look great and have fast forward and rewind: Coreplayer on winmo is a great media player, with .mkv support, .avi and when used in combo with TCPMP player there are almost no formats that can't be played.
3.) TomTom, Navigon, Igo8, Route66 offline navigation apps: Maybe you want to have a 32gb sdcard and run all the different nav programs? Nav programs seem to be a matter of personal preference, so having ALL available options is something nice.
4.) Fast psx emulation with FPSeCe: If you love psx games watch some youtubes on how to set this up and where to get the good versions and skins of this, and the onscreen controls are multi-touch good if you watch the videos and research how to set it up.
5.) Opera Mini 5 (build 5.1.21594): INCREDIBLY smooth browsing: the inertial scrolling with this browser is so fluid, fast and natural - there is no jitter/chop/lag - the fps is very high. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
6.) Free Hamachi: I think you need to pay for logmein hamachi on the Market (worth it for sure) but there are free clients in WinMo that work very well. If you 'need' to save money here you go.
7.) Free Grooveshark downloading: I love Tiny Shark and MP3 downloader off the market, but in winmo a developer named 'SciLor' has made a great freeware grooveshark downloader called "SciLor's GrooveMobile Downloader." what's also great about this app is that winmo's media players and coreplayer can play the song 'when it begins downloading,' which means Coreplayers graphic equalizer can work that tune 5-10 seconds after you click 'download.'
8.) Torrent Downloading on the phone: I haven't yet found an android app that does what WMTorrent does. WMTorrent is a paid app and there is a new and older version that both have their strengths. Don't expect full speed on wifi or 3g like on a pc, but this app does the job.
9.) Super Tethering via 'ICS Control v0.21': freeware that allows cel->bluetooth pan .. cel -> wifi .. bluetooth->wifi .. wifi->bluetooth .. bluetooth->vpn .. vpn->hamachi .. openvpn->usb. Basically, any interface can be routed to any other interface and subnets and dhcp servers can be added.
10.) Mortscript: 'Tasker' and 'gscript' in Android could be considered better in many ways, but Mortscript was/is a powerful and accessible scripting program for a mobile OS to automate tasks, make apps do cool stuff, enable long-chains of opening apps cutting/pasting/into other apps etc. I turned my old q9h into a 'talking/listening star trek phone' with mortscript by combining 'vlingo's returned speech results' with 'textspeech pro's tts program,' i could verbally ask it to read wikipedia pages for me or read the first couple pages of a spoken google search - and my programming skill is almost zero.
11.) Microsoft Voice Command: it's not as robust as what Android offers, but I don't think there is an Android app that is so 'instantly accurate with basic phone functions,' but then again the list of what MSVC can do in 2 seconds is a little more than basic. Android will catch up in a month or two no doubt.
12.) RemoteTracker phone finder: Android has phone finder apps, but if you lose your phone there is a chance that the sdcard is gonna get wiped. There is also the chance that the the phone will get hard-reset too, but before that happens RemoteTracker freeware is solid.
13.) Run Windows 98se faster on Winmo's Qemu: Windows 98 Second Edition can run on the hd2 reasonably well now, and some devs on XDA recently have been more active in getting different flavors of it to run even better and progress looks set to continue. This requires the 'qemu' emulator for winmo and a backwards-reading of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com
/showthread.php?t=637889&page=50 (I'm gonna try this right now)
14.) Gestures on any screen with any app: I installed LMT v0.8 onscreen multitouch gestures and I'm very impressed. By swiping left with 2 fingers I activate microsoft voice command, by swiping right with 2 fingers I launch TellMeExpertLauncher.exe and do bing searches (this takes less than 2 seconds from swipe to speak). These are just 14 of the customizable gestures that LMT can do, and it can do them on top of any app, even the camera or a movie, etc. This app also comes with a bonus "on screen game controller" that's multitouch and works great.
15.) Reverse-Bluetooth-Tethering: Lets say you want to pop your sim into another phone, but still have internet/voip on your hd2 via low power bluetooth tethering. Well, noone needs to do that really, but I actually do it a few days a week because I have an 'almost' dirty job where I use a very weather/work resistant q9h and I have it feed the hd2 internet through bluetooth when on break or in the truck.
THINGS MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD BY OTHER MEMBERS:
A.) Good E-Book Readers: like Alreader2, it's felt by some that all Android E-Book readers lack a certain something, though CoolReader comes close.
B.) Good Alarm Programs: like G-Alarm, some reviews praise it for having tons of alarms and features and varying snooze techniques like mazes or 'turning on a light' to activate the light sensor, and it's supposedly very easy to work all this stuff via a finger friendly today-screen plugin if you like.
C.) SPB Mobile Shell: a very elegant and nice UI for WinMo that sets a classic standard for many users.
D.) Office Mobile 2010: I myself have gone searching for office apps in the market a few times and I've been surprised that I DID NOT have immediate success finding good free office apps that were better than Office 2010. NOTE: Using 'BsB Tweaks' free app to add 'screen rotation' to excel and the other office apps might be a good idea.
E.) Cookies Home Tab Editor: HTC Sense on hd2 winmo is 'excellent,' but what takes it to a whole new level is Cookie's Home Tab Editor for making customizing your homescreen 'fun+productive.' When investing time choosing a good ROM to boot android, keeping CHT in mind might make HD2 a more enjoyable weapon of total annihilation.
F.) File encryption with FreeOTFEPDA: This is something I should be more proactive with, and on page 3 it's explained further, but my brother is 'security bent' and he is always upset at me for 'not encrypting my files.'
G.) rSAP Bluetooth Profile for VW/Audi Group Cars: Integrated bluetooth calling and contacts management in these cars requires what the HD2 has - rSAP Bluetooth Profile. Want your car to turn into your phone just by sitting in it? Also, some premium sound systems exist in these cars and I've read the connection to the HD2 is quite stable. (I had to read what rSAP is)
H.) Hide Your Caller ID Number To Strangers: someone brought up a good point that in winmo you can shield your caller ID from everyone except those in your contacts list. (I didn't know this)
I) Garmin XT: We all know Garmin - a clean running and reliable 'offline nav' app with maps that are always up to date. (I have this myself on an old q9h I keep in the glove compartment - shoulda remembered it earlier.)
What are other good things to know?
Igo8 works just fine in android.
I write in the spirit of love but I gotta take issue with some of your points:
1.) Movie Maker: Can't comment as I don't use, mainly as I'll always do this on a PC
2.) Movies/TV via your Orb Server: Thing is, I could never get this working easily on WinMo, but for me it works flawlessly on Android, using the default Web Browser to select the file, and then default video player or VPlayer to play.
3.) TomTom, Navigon, Igo8, Route66 offline navigation apps: Agree, I keep WinMo around purely for TomTom (and booting )
4.) Fast psx emulation with FPSeCe: Wow, PSX4Droid works so perfectly out of the box for me, and with RomBuddy I can even download the games direct to my Droid. I donated to FPSECE and followed it closesly and praised it, but the bugs and the constant controller set-up are WAY behind PSX4Droid. Give it a go (free version available, otherwise $3) if you haven't already.
5.) Opera Mobile 10 Final INCREDIBLY smooth browsing: Fair enough. Personally I've been happy with the default Android experience, as well as trying Opera, Dolphin and one or two others on Android.
6) I'll add e-book readers to your list: I was addicted to Alreader2 on WinMo, and all of the e-book readers on Android lack something (and I've tried them all). Either missing night-mode, or file compatibility, or saving restrictions, or just plain ugly when reading. Only CoolReader has come close (in fact, very close except for a couple of issues).
7) I also find myself trapped using HTC Sense on Android as I love it's email widgets, and can't find decent equivalents for other launchers.
... Oh, and I do miss Cookie's Home Tab. It is amazing software which could have been the saviour of WinMo if it had arrived two years earlier, and was built into official ROMs. Microsoft completely dropped the ball with UI and with AppMarkets.
pandollar said:
Igo8 works just fine in android.
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how did you manage to get it to work? I keep getting "Insert SD card with IGO8 files" or something like that thanks...
You are right about psx4droid, it is awesome. There are a few games I was addicted to back in the day, like Twisted Metal 2, and it runs at 60fps in FPSeCe, whereas it's kinda choppy in a couple Android builds I've tried - maybe I just need to try the right build, and yes the controller setup in psx4droid blows FPSeCe. The browsing experience in Android is excellent, I just am addicted to that Opera Mobile 10 Final.
smeddy said:
I write in the spirit of love but I gotta take issue with some of your points:
1.) Movie Maker: Can't comment as I don't use, mainly as I'll always do this on a PC
2.) Movies/TV via your Orb Server: Thing is, I could never get this working easily on WinMo, but for me it works flawlessly on Android, using the default Web Browser to select the file, and then default video player or VPlayer to play.
3.) TomTom, Navigon, Igo8, Route66 offline navigation apps: Agree, I keep WinMo around purely for TomTom (and booting )
4.) Fast psx emulation with FPSeCe: Wow, PSX4Droid works so perfectly out of the box for me, and with RomBuddy I can even download the games direct to my Droid. I donated to FPSECE and followed it closesly and praised it, but the bugs and the constant controller set-up are WAY behind PSX4Droid. Give it a go (free version available, otherwise $3) if you haven't already.
5.) Opera Mobile 10 Final INCREDIBLY smooth browsing: Fair enough. Personally I've been happy with the default Android experience, as well as trying Opera, Dolphin and one or two others on Android.
6) I'll add e-book readers to your list: I was addicted to Alreader2 on WinMo, and all of the e-book readers on Android lack something (and I've tried them all). Either missing night-mode, or file compatibility, or saving restrictions, or just plain ugly when reading. Only CoolReader has come close (in fact, very close except for a couple of issues).
7) I also find myself trapped using HTC Sense on Android as I love it's email widgets, and can't find decent equivalents for other launchers.
... Oh, and I do miss Cookie's Home Tab. It is amazing software which could have been the saviour of WinMo if it had arrived two years earlier, and was built into official ROMs. Microsoft completely dropped the ball with UI and with AppMarkets.
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thanks for being the first to add something to the list, I appreciate it. I think the hd2 is quite special (been playing with computers since 1979) and you helping build a list that helps other members here have a pocket computer that does anything is cool.
Twisted Metal 2! That remains my ultimate game ever ever ever, and its the game I got Psx4droid for. For me it works perfectly on the Black & Blue remix Rom. The Paris level stole years from my teenage years I am either Spectre or Warthog
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constant controller set-up are WAY behind PSX4Droid.
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Lol no. You can set up your own way of controler in FPSEce while PSX4Droid have only pre set type of controller (i would even go as far as to say that there is only one controller).
Anyway, lack of other options in not a plus for simplicity.
Back to the topic: I agree with the Navigation and FPSEce points. I dont really mind others. Also winmo have better alarms (G-Alamr for example). I wasnt able to find good one in Android (created my own with tasker though).
so for PSX4Droid how do we specify the bios in our build? I am using HD2ONE.
Well... this might not be crucial, but I've been using WinMo with SPB Mobile Shell on it in almost all my WinMo devices (countless). There's nothing that cool in Android
KowboyBebop said:
Lol no. You can set up your own way of controler in FPSEce while PSX4Droid have only pre set type of controller (i would even go as far as to say that there is only one controller).
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I guess I do agree with you, but I just got so sick of configuring FPSECE that I enjoyed the "pick ROM and play" approach, and have been happy with the default controller. But point taken
SorenStirner said:
Well... this might not be crucial, but I've been using WinMo with SPB Mobile Shell on it in almost all my WinMo devices (countless). There's nothing that cool in Android
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I had been using SPB Mobile Shell on my phones, too. However, SPB Apps are poorly supported. If you try Android you would find that the apps are better, easier to install and uninstall, many more options using Android. Have you tried LauncherPlus? That really is better than APB MS. JMHO
pandollar said:
Igo8 works just fine in android.
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If you tried both versions you would know about huge difference between those two
SorenStirner said:
Well... this might not be crucial, but I've been using WinMo with SPB Mobile Shell on it in almost all my WinMo devices (countless). There's nothing that cool in Android
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Not crucial, but quite valid actually. I know there are many fans of spbshell, because it is awesome, and an spb shell version for android would be quite cool. Im not familiar with spb shell, but have seen it many times.
Something that was mentioned in another forum was that in FPSeCe you can have a different custom controls for each individual game: gsensor on/off, different layouts, etc. Now, it's a different .ini file each game, and making custom controls for each game is laborious, but I've done it and benefitted by it. Psx4droid will have this soon I'm sure. (I also need to try psx4droid on some of those mentioned builds.)
smeddy said:
Twisted Metal 2! That remains my ultimate game ever ever ever, and its the game I got Psx4droid for. For me it works perfectly on the Black & Blue remix Rom. The Paris level stole years from my teenage years I am either Spectre or Warthog
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I am either spectre or warthog -- you rock smeddy! I am starting to think Twisted Metal 2 should become one of my benchmarks for testing build/rom/radio combos.
I totally agree with the sentiments of this post. I loved my HD2. It was a remarkable device. I also loved all the programs you mentioned. However, i really wish the phone had been Android right from the get go. The hardware was so awesome, pictures we actually clear and didn't look grainy. (This was a first for HTC.) For us hackers WM was great. Now Android is great and becoming greater by leaps and bounds. It's hard to beat Google Navigation and also all the cool voice commands offered by Android.
I would have bought the EVO 4G to replace my broken HD2, but I cannot stand the sprint network. I'm waiting for an HD2 device that has a 4.3 screen and is GSM.
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"all the cool voice commands" by both google and vlingo are going to change human history starting this year. You are right to highlight those. Its the dawn of a new era in computing (is my hd2 a 'Monolith' from the Arthur C Clarke books?)
Oh yeah, and Android doesn't have "TellMe" -- can't overlook that GoogleKiller.
Office 2010
CHT 2.0
You do know the thread title is an oxy moron?
This shouldn't be in the Android forum. It looks and smells like a troll thread to me.

Windows Phone 7 is not really an alternative

I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
Oh.....ok....
masteroe12 said:
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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what an insightful post, you're in an XDA forum but you're too lazy to "hack" your phone
windows phone 7 is still a baby compared to android and iOS. the partnership with nokia means the ovi store is merging with the marketplace, so this should help, plus the changes in free submissions (allowing 99 free submissions i think) will also help.
its also worth remembering that windows phone 7 on a HD2 is also not official, so i dont see why you would have an issue with unofficial registry hacks!
personally the limitation for me is apps. having used android, i got into the habbit of downloading apps out of bordem, but that is more limited on wp7. i also think the pricing for some of the apps and gams is a little high compared with other platforms. but these often change with time.
i quite like zune in comparison with windows mobile device centre, but i do agree it has some similaritys with itunes.
dont use it if u dont like it
Mrakes said:
dont use it if u dont like it
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Exactly,
Don't buy it if you're not going to eat it
Edit :
Btw, Your title is just, with all respect, stupid.
Wp7 on hd2 and 1gb of cab file storage
Thanks to all the guys that were involved in developing wp7 for the Hd2. What do you think if Microsoft allowed 1gb of cab file storage on the wp7 platform of the costumers choosing, and they could add or remove files as they please in that 1gb of space?
That's a shame. Put a little time in and get alot out!! You really are missing out.
masteroe12 said:
I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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Wowwww.!!!! This one of the most insightful post !!!!!
Ok m8.... You are probably the XDA guy that ask for help to a problem ...nad the solution is 3-4 posts above !!!!!
Ok.. no prob.... its an alternative to a lot of guys arround here ... and they are lucky to be XDA members...
colossus
I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
;-))
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omarza said:
I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
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I'm totally with you - the Zune pass got me. I love being able to tag something with Shazam and then have the song or album in a few minutes from the Marketplace.
I have random issues with sound from my headphones, and having to flip to video mode to get the camera to focus kinda bites at times, but those are minor issues compared to all the reboots, hangs, freezes I had with even the stock 6.x rom -
WP7 is great, so great that I almost daily want to go get a real HD7 so I have full hardware functionality.
berbecverde said:
The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
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Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
I just need gps with maps on the device. is this suppose to be on the ovi store? when is that coming?
I too am using dual boot to wp7 and android and enjoying how they compliment each other with both having there strong points that makes up for their individual short comings.
As the wp7 build matures it will only get better. The wp7 takes about 15 seconds to load and the sd android build that I have takes less than 3mins so I can live with switching back and forth.
I really like netflix, the call quality, and email on wp7. Games, gps, maps, flash support, internet browsing, video, and camera I prefer the android build I use.
For me the switching between the two OSs works well.
by definition it is an alternative.
I suppoes you mean, isnt a "good" alternative
My question to you is alternative to what? an iphone? android? pen and paper? carrier Pigeons?
and even then, "good" is subjective, carrier pigeons and pen and paper have many uses that my phone wouldnt be "good" alternative for, for instance i couldnt feed my phone bread in the park, or let me kid run after it flapping like a bird scaring them away, and coming back to IT, i find its completely fine, works, works well, its a perfect "alternative" for me
Huge sweeping statments are a bit daft, fair doos, its not your cup of tea, but i dont think we have to hear about it, after all i couldnt care less what your opinion is because i have my own as do you and thats your right. but im not going to start a thread telling all about my opinion, especially since all your opinions of what are bad are in the public domain, you would have known about them before you even installed it, so its not even a constructive debate or indeed a question,
infact what is the point? to regurgitate the same information thats already been around the block several times?
dgabriel said:
Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
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I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
berbecverde said:
I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
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I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
Gabe3 said:
I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/copilot-live-navigation-not-coming-to-windows-phone-7
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/tomtom-disinterested-in-windows-phone-7-too

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