From some instructions I received, I was told I had to revert back to 4.0.4 on my RAZR M in order to root my phone. All went relatively smooth root was achieved, but now my problem is its not allowing mwlw to OTA update back to Jellybean. I was thinking of using CSD to flash the stock Jellybean build back onto my phone but I don't want to undue the root! If I just find an stock Razrm JB image, can I flashed JB like that without losing my root? This is actually a friends phone! So I need to get things working right. Thanka for any help!
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From some instructions I received, I was told I had to revert back to 4.0.4 on my RAZR M in order to root my phone. All went relatively smooth root was achieved, but now my problem is its not allowing mwlw to OTA update back to Jellybean. I was thinking of using CSD to flash the stock Jellybean build back onto my phone but I don't want to undue the root! If I just find an stock Razrm JB image, can I flashed JB like that without losing my root? This is actually a friends phone! So I need to get things working right. Thanka for any help!
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You can root just fine on Jellybean.
So I would remove root cleanly, if you can. If you deleted apps, then more than likely the update will fail as it searches for dependencies.
If thats the case, then you will have to SBF back to stock. Which at that point, you can probably just SBF straight to jellybean, then root as normal.
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You can root just fine on Jellybean.
So I would remove root cleanly, if you can. If you deleted apps, then more than likely the update will fail as it searches for dependencies.
If thats the case, then you will have to SBF back to stock. Which at that point, you can probably just SBF straight to jellybean, then root as normal.
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Thanks for the response. Let me ask this last question: Since I'm already rooted on 4.0.4, can I just flash the stock jellybean ROM using
RSD without breaking root?
DocJ8403 said:
Thanks for the response. Let me ask this last question: Since I'm already rooted on 4.0.4, can I just flash the stock jellybean ROM using
RSD without breaking root?
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You could try voodoo ota root keeper from Google play. Its not guaranteed to work but if not, its really easy to regain root using the motofail2go exploit.
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Hi guys,
I have a question about updating to Froyo once it is available with a rooted phone. Will I have to unroot in order to take advatage of an OTA update or will I be able to upgrade along with the unrooted users?
Does the same thing apply to a phone that is flashed with a custom ROM and Kernal?
I've just rooted my phone and installed wifi tether which was the main reason for me to root.
The appeal extra battery life and the ability to over/underclock is the reason I want to flash a custom rom.
I ask this because although I've succeeded in rooting my Epic I can't seem to boot into the clockworkmod recovery screen and thus not been able to flash a custom rom or kernal. I have yet to try unrooting and starting over from scratch but with Froyo seemingly on the horizon, I don't want to go through all the hassle of trying to get a custom ROM only to have to undo it when Froyo arrives.
Thanks
This has been covered multiple times in this forum.
Devs will likely be coming out with ROMs based on Froyo very soon after the Froyo update.
But if you can't wait till then, you'll have to go back to stock everything (kernel+ROM) to get your phone updated via OTA.
Still not sure about root, but if our phones get de-rooted during the update, someone will also come up with a rooting method quickly.
tonysohn said:
Still not sure about root, but if our phones get de-rooted during the update, someone will also come up with a rooting method quickly.
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My guess is yes, you will lose root as it will flash a new kernel that won't have the rooted initramfs. You will most likely need to re-root using a new method once 2.2 is available. I could be wrong though, nobody knows for sure yet.
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So the gingerbread update is supposed to come out tonight, and one of the suggestions from moto. Was if your rooted to flash back to to stock software, im on the stock rom and stock everything but with a few rooted apps installed. So should I flash back, or can I just unroot with z4root unroot button. Thanks for the quick reply
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If you care about root, I wouldn't accept the update until they root it. No one knows for sure what exactly will keep the update from working on your phone. If you want the update, Froyo stock unrooted is the safest bet.
There is a thread on what you need in this forum
Thanks for the reply I do want the update, im on the stock froyo with stock kernals. with some rooted apps installed, so I can just hit unroot on z4root and it will uninstall rooted stuff?
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Yes, did you ever flash clockworkmod or bootstrap?
If all you did was root, use z4 to unroot.
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Yeah never flashed with clockwork or anything, the most I did was change the boot animation using root tools but I put it back to the stock one, been waiting for gibgerbread for awhile lol
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Cool thanks for advice, unrooted my phone and will wait for update
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You may not be able to get it rooted however. Be careful
Still telling me update not available .. I'm guessing its due to me deleting the bloat wares.. I've not flashed or cloaked worked anything.. Just root. Delete wares..
Before Froyo, I was rooted and stock everything. (I really just wanted wi-fi tether and titanium backup). the OTA still worked fine, obviously I lost root, but I didn't lose anything else. Assuming you haven't flashed a new rom nor deleted stock apps, you should be fine. I don't think there's a way for the OTA to differentiate phones if they have the same basebands...
Ok this explains a lot...
If people aren't able to update.. this maybe why..
Copy and past this link.. i dont have enough posts to link to it.. ±★★gottabemobile.com/2011/05/27/droid-x-gingerbread-update-rolling-out-tonight-but-not-for-everyone
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Still telling me update not available .. I'm guessing its due to me deleting the bloat wares.. I've not flashed or cloaked worked anything.. Just root. Delete wares..
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Be careful. You won't be able to upgrade if you deleted bloatware as it checks for system integrity before updating.
Thanks for testing it for us! Running nice and stable on apex, going wait and see if the new "bugs" are worth updating to.
I have a Droid X that I have rooted using z4 Root. Will I have any problems if I un-root and then download and install Gingerbread? I realize that z4 Root can't root Gingerbread yet, but I was wondering if I could just un-root and then install the update and just wait to re-root it when z4 Root can do it? It seems like people are having issues with the X even though they un-root before they update. Why is this? Thank you all for your time. I appreciate it.
People usually have problems updating because they have deleted or frozen bloat in their system folder.
If you unroot, and replace any bloat you may have removed, you should be able to update without a hitch.
After you download the OTA Gingerbread you won't be able to gain root again. The only option is two flash a two part prerooted install of .596 Gingerbread provided by Team Black Hat.
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Thank you much. I shouldn't have any problem then because I haven't frozen or deleted anything. Is the z4 Root developer going to try to make a version of z4 Root that will root Gingerbread?
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Thank you much. I shouldn't have any problem then because I haven't frozen or deleted anything. Is the z4 Root developer going to try to make a version of z4 Root that will root Gingerbread?
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I for one hope so. I want to be on Gingerbread, but the OCD in me wants the OTA.
Question- OTA? What does it stand for?
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Question- OTA? What does it stand for?
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Over The Air.
I unrooted with z4 Root and did a wipe and a restore to factory reset. I tried to update to GingerBread 4 times but all four times it failed. Somehow, even in the return to factory wipe, ClockworkMod Recovery stays on the Droid X. Why? I think it is the ClockworkMod Recovery that is preventing me being able to update to GingerBread. Do you think that might be the cause? In other words, resetting it to factory condition doesn't really reset to factory condition. How do I fix this? Should I just stay rooted with z4 Root and wait for a way to update to GingerBread from you guys? I'm just not sure what to do. Thanks for your time. I'm running Android Version 2.2.1 with a System Version of 2.3.340.MB810.Verizon.en.US.
Root froyo with z4 then follow directions on this thread
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126554
That link gives me a 404. Do you have another one? Thanks for your help.
I did not unroot...
Hello...Noob here. Question I did not indoor my DROID b4 downloading 2.3
Should I have? And what will happen since I didn't?
I also have one other question. I accidentally tapped on Updates and now it is trying to download the update. Is there a way that I can stop this manually? Thanks.
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Hello...Noob here. Question I did not indoor my DROID b4 downloading 2.3
Should I have? And what will happen since I didn't?
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huh? need some more info there. have no idea what you're talkin about.
also, this is the droid x section, not droid.
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I also have one other question. I accidentally tapped on Updates and now it is trying to download the update. Is there a way that I can stop this manually? Thanks.
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i thought you wanted to update to gb? why would you want to stop it?
why dont you just update to the pre-rooted gingerbread. see here http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...-5-596-release-thread-something-everyone.html
I want to stop it because I have tried to install it 4 times and it has failed to install on all four attempts. It won't install so I don't want to waste the time and the data.
The link is not working for me either
Follow the instructions below to return to froyo or upgrade to gb rooted or not.
Check out these links.
Link 1 makes a linux CD that you can use to SBF back to Froyo in about 10 minutes. This is a very easy method to get back to froyo. If you can burn an iso file to a CD then you can do this method.
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...-solution-your-windows-rsd-lite-problems.html
Then you can use z4root and install pre-rooted GB using the 2 flash method at link 2. Make sure that you use Droid 2 bootstrapper and not Droid X bootstrapper to install the rooted GB.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/28/download-official-droidx-gingerbread-4-5-596-for-rooted-users/
Follow the instructions closely for ensured success.
This can all be done in about 30 to 45 minutes depending on your computer skills.
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This guide u posted can used even if I'm on the ota gingerbread update?
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Fixed the link,
U can go directly from rooted froyo to rooted gb using TBH GBroot flash. Flash just like u would a rom, and u might need to install the update the kernal depending if you flash a rom. Its easy, just follow my link and scroll down to my post it gives u the steps
Im not understanding why there is a distinction between the two. I thought you could not have ROMS and Root on 2.3? If you flash a 2.3 ROM do you then lose your root access and have to downgrade all over again to get 2.2/root and try a new ROM?
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Im not understanding why there is a distinction between the two. I thought you could not have ROMS and Root on 2.3? If you flash a 2.3 ROM do you then lose your root access and have to downgrade all over again to get 2.2/root and try a new ROM?
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If your on stock 2.3 you have to downgrade to 2.2 in order to root your phone yes. That's only because the root exploit used exists in 2.2 and not 2.3. But once rooted, you can flash a 2.3 ROM and you will not lose root. You would only lose root if you RUU back to stock. The ROMs listed in android development have root capabilities/superuser built in. So once your rooted and have recovery setup, go ahead and flash any of those ROMs (like supreme sense, cm7, miui, ect) without worrying about losing root.
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so once your 2.2 rooted, can you take the OTA 2.3 update and still retain root or is the only way to get 2.3 back and stay rooted is via a ROM?
raydawg said:
so once your 2.2 rooted, can you take the OTA 2.3 update and still retain root or is the only way to get 2.3 back and stay rooted is via a ROM?
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If you take the update it will break root. You'll need to flash a Gingerbread ROM. X99 has a ROM that is basically a rooted version of the ota. General rule of thumb, don't accept updates unless you want risk breaking root
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cool thanks thats what i figured, nice to get that confirmed.
Has anyone been following the MotoX root method for Kit Kat seeing how it'll likely be the same for Ultra/Maxx? Wow! After seeing all the problems with RockMyMoto this method (assuming it'll work for us) is sure to be a doosie!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
SlapMyMoto 0.5c Beta (4.4 root, RW to system)
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What problems? Inability to follow directions?
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Exactly!
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Lol one of the issues we won't face is downgrading I am so glad the moto x gets these updates before us. We get to see all the pitfalls.
Buy dev edition. Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Install su. Profit?
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arcanexvi said:
Buy dev edition. Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Install su. Profit?
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Out of stock ATM
arcanexvi said:
Buy dev edition. Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Install su. Profit?
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I've been thinking of finding someone willing to trade a dev edition for a regular+cash. It didnt make sense to get it at the time when the Verizon store had them for $499 and the dev edition was $650-ish, but i'm starting to itch for some custom ROMs. All this waiting for official stuff is getting old.
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Lol one of the issues we won't face is downgrading I am so glad the moto x gets these updates before us. We get to see all the pitfalls.
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And why wouldn't we have to down grade? And wipe all our date to update and root?
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And why wouldn't we have to down grade? And wipe all our date to update and root?
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I'm glad you asked because were already on 4.2.2 why would we downgrade. The moto x got the update and jcase hadn't created the exploit yet which requires you to be on 4.2.2 so they had to down grade. Jcase just updated the exploit and is looking for droid testers his instructions say to downgrade unless your already on 4.2.2 My advie is to not install the update yet if you want root. You will just have to downgrade its more work. If you take the update pull it and put on your PC don't install it. I have the updater frozen so as soon as the update is posted I will attempt to root again on 4.2.2 and install the update hope it works smoothly.
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I'm glad you asked because were already on 4.2.2 why would we downgrade. The moto x got the update and jcase hadn't created the exploit yet which requires you to be on 4.2.2 so they had to down grade. Jcase just updated the exploit and is looking for droid testers his instructions say to downgrade unless your already on 4.2.2 My advie is to not install the update yet if you want root. You will just have to downgrade its more work. If you take the update pull it and put on your PC don't install it. I have the updater frozen so as soon as the update is posted I will attempt to root again on 4.2.2 and install the update hope it works smoothly.
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That clears things up immensly! Thanks for taking the time to explain the process. I am currently on 4.2.2 and rooted. I'm just waiting for the update to drop so I can make a copy for people who need it. Then I'll try to root the new update.
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That clears things up immensly! Thanks for taking the time to explain the process. I am currently on 4.2.2 and rooted. I'm just waiting for the update to drop so I can make a copy for people who need it. Then I'll try to root the new update.
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Here check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48648074#post48648074 im waiting for jcase to get back to me if we need to unroot. I would assume so a fxz of 4.2.2 would be the best platform to try this on. It seems fairly simple to be honest his instructions are very straight foward. I feel bad for the guys that took the update they have to downgrade.
Just FYI, adb shell getprop ro.boot.write_protect is still 0 after unrooting, stock 4.2.2, then taking the KitKat OTA. Might this make it easier to root 4.4 standalone? Or should I just go back down to 4.2.2 and follow slap?
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Just FYI, adb shell getprop ro.boot.write_protect is still 0 after unrooting, stock 4.2.2, then taking the KitKat OTA. Might this make it easier to root 4.4 standalone? Or should I just go back down to 4.2.2 and follow slap?
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Would you be willing to:
1. Verify if downgrading back to 4.2.2 (12.15.15 firmware) is possible with the DROID line?
2. Verify if SlapMyMoto works with the DROID line?
dtreth said:
Just FYI, adb shell getprop ro.boot.write_protect is still 0 after unrooting, stock 4.2.2, then taking the KitKat OTA. Might this make it easier to root 4.4 standalone? Or should I just go back down to 4.2.2 and follow slap?
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You can't root on 4.4 only 4.2.2 doesn't matter that write protection is off. i wish it was that simple.
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Would you be willing to:
1. Verify if downgrading back to 4.2.2 (12.15.15 firmware) is possible with the DROID line?
2. Verify if SlapMyMoto works with the DROID line?
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I will when I get home. I have the files there, but I didn't grab my update.zip and I'm not sure if I can get it back after FXZing, so I may wait until I find it.
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You can't root on 4.4 only 4.2.2 doesn't matter that write protection is off. i wish it was that simple.
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What I meant by my comment was "hey guys, MotoWpNoMo survived OTA! Would this make it easier to develop a 4.4 root method that does not require downgrading?"
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I will when I get home. I have the files there, but I didn't grab my update.zip and I'm not sure if I can get it back after FXZing, so I may wait until I find it.
What I meant by my comment was "hey guys, MotoWpNoMo survived OTA! Would this make it easier to develop a 4.4 root method that does not require downgrading?"
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I don't think it matters but that is a ? For jcase.
So in my excitement to flash 4.4, I forgot to take into account losing the root. So I tried to downgrade as per JCase's suggestion, but there's a big problem if you already successfully installed the OTA. It is an updated security signature and software. Because of this, RSD Lite and fastboot return with the error of "Flash failed. Downgraded security version". Does anyone have a workaround or an updated FXZ that will flash over 4.4 to revert back to 4.2.2 so I can try the JCase's backdoor method?
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So in my excitement to flash 4.4, I forgot to take into account losing the root. So I tried to downgrade as per JCase's suggestion, but there's a big problem if you already successfully installed the OTA. It is an updated security signature and software. Because of this, RSD Lite and fastboot return with the error of "Flash failed. Downgraded security version". Does anyone have a workaround or an updated FXZ that will flash over 4.4 to revert back to 4.2.2 so I can try the JCase's backdoor method?
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Mad at you. How do you have the 4.4 update already.
After unlocking the booter, and following the instructions for SlapMyMoto, I was able to install the update for my Mini and retain root. You can do it!
zefyx said:
After unlocking the booter, and following the instructions for SlapMyMoto, I was able to install the update for my Mini and retain root. You can do it!
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It doesn't unlock the bootloader. Just takes off the write protection so you don't need to reboot your phone into recovery to turn it off. Which allows you to use the actual stock recovery as well.