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Thinking About Buying This or Iphone?

I'm Interested in this phone....but I'm just iffy on the Tech side of it. It looks Great! But I want a gaming phone that will last me for the 2 years i have on contract with it. I mean look at the Iphone...The 3gs has been around a long time and plays games that look great! On android phones thats not the case...
Back to this phone! The tech looks dated and games are only getting better..... I mean look at the dual core phones! 2 years from now i have a feeling this phone will end up like my rooted droid eris(BLOWS)...useless and slow when it comes to games. Why is that? When Iphone keeps quality games all the time...even years after its been out. I just adore this phone though...I love playstation and want to enrich in the experience of gaming on the mobile phone...I like carrying one device around that can do it all!
Is there hope for this thing? Any games coming out in the future that will make me go was up Iphone? What you got on this? Do you think games will still be hitting the market for this thing in 2 years time? Hell i know people who keep the Iphone 3gs even though they can upgrade!
So I mean really....Iphone 4 or Xperia Play? I'm looking towards Xperia Play but i dont want to regret later wishing i bought the Iphone 4. hmmmmm
Thanks for the help and sorry for my Brick of Text!

Listen, son, playing games properly and emulating your ROMs are the main reasons why you're buying this. Oh, and the ridiculously precise GPS. That's what this phone does best. The iPhone 4 will have more games, and they'll be more optimized for its specs (which are the same as the Xperia's, heads up!), but once you try the pad here, you'll wonder why you were even using a touch screen to play. It is just so much different.

The above post sums it up pretty good.
As said, the iphone 4 has the same specs. While the iPhone 4 may get more games, the fact is a lot of them use on screen controls, which suck SO harshly compared to buttons you never need to look at (or for). This on it's own makes it worlds better than the iphone.
Add in the open, totally customizable android platform, stereo very good for cell phone speakers, and a very nice, large screen, and you've got little reason to get the iphone.

Jakndax said:
I'm Interested in this phone....but I'm just iffy on the Tech side of it. It looks Great! But I want a gaming phone that will last me for the 2 years i have on contract with it. I mean look at the Iphone...The 3gs has been around a long time and plays games that look great! On android phones thats not the case...
Back to this phone! The tech looks dated and games are only getting better..... I mean look at the dual core phones! 2 years from now i have a feeling this phone will end up like my rooted droid eris(BLOWS)...useless and slow when it comes to games. Why is that? When Iphone keeps quality games all the time...even years after its been out. I just adore this phone though...I love playstation and want to enrich in the experience of gaming on the mobile phone...I like carrying one device around that can do it all!
Is there hope for this thing? Any games coming out in the future that will make me go was up Iphone? What you got on this? Do you think games will still be hitting the market for this thing in 2 years time? Hell i know people who keep the Iphone 3gs even though they can upgrade!
So I mean really....Iphone 4 or Xperia Play? I'm looking towards Xperia Play but i dont want to regret later wishing i bought the Iphone 4. hmmmmm
Thanks for the help and sorry for my Brick of Text!
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Mate, plain and simple, there's so many threads about this on this forum it's ridicilious. I'll try and answer your questions, and hopefully you'll make your mind up.
1. If you want a gaming phone, this wins, no contest (I came from a 3GS)
2. Emulation with a proper dedicated controller is off the charts, when I talk to my mates who use the touchscreen to play fpse or whatever, they say it's unplayable, and from my phone, I've convinced a few people to trade in iPhones, Galaxy S's to get it. It's a beast of a phone.
3. You're right, in 2 years, it won't be what it is today, but it'll still be able to hold it's own. If you take care of it, and be smart about what your installing you should be ok. It's a new phone, and I'd say 2 years will be just about the right time to trade it in for the next Xperia Play
4. The reason the iphone 3GS STILL plays amazing games and the likes, whereas some Androids don't is simple...Android is moving forward at a much faster pace than the iPhone. The 3G -> 3GS was a big step, but not MASSIVE, the 3GS -> iPhone 4 was minute! When it comes down to it, you won't notice the difference between the 2. But in the last 2 years, the difference in Androids is ridiculous. HTC Desire -> Lg Optimpus 2x, Evo 3D, etc.
I came, as previously said, from an iPhone, and I don't look back at all.
Don't like the stock music player? Uninstall it, browser? Change it...you have so much freedom, it's completly up to you!

Nhialor said:
Mate, plain and simple, there's so many threads about this on this forum it's ridicilious. I'll try and answer your questions, and hopefully you'll make your mind up.
1. If you want a gaming phone, this wins, no contest (I came from a 3GS)
2. Emulation with a proper dedicated controller is off the charts, when I talk to my mates who use the touchscreen to play fpse or whatever, they say it's unplayable, and from my phone, I've convinced a few people to trade in iPhones, Galaxy S's to get it. It's a beast of a phone.
3. You're right, in 2 years, it won't be what it is today, but it'll still be able to hold it's own. If you take care of it, and be smart about what your installing you should be ok. It's a new phone, and I'd say 2 years will be just about the right time to trade it in for the next Xperia Play
4. The reason the iphone 3GS STILL plays amazing games and the likes, whereas some Androids don't is simple...Android is moving forward at a much faster pace than the iPhone. The 3G -> 3GS was a big step, but not MASSIVE, the 3GS -> iPhone 4 was minute! When it comes down to it, you won't notice the difference between the 2. But in the last 2 years, the difference in Androids is ridiculous. HTC Desire -> Lg Optimpus 2x, Evo 3D, etc.
I came, as previously said, from an iPhone, and I don't look back at all.
Don't like the stock music player? Uninstall it, browser? Change it...you have so much freedom, it's completly up to you!
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Yea you grabbed my Attention...I like the freedom and really i dont want to get sucked into apples so called "world" I like my Freedom!....I've made up my mind...I'm content with the Xperia Play. I like Android but maybe my Eris has been giving me a crappy experience. Damn...Everytime i look at that gaming pad...All i think about is SNES...NES, GBA...PS1!!(How do all those run?)...Thanks! Made up my mind. Oh and maybe you could Clear me up on What the Playstation Suite will offer in games? I saw Little Big Planet!

Jakndax said:
Damn...Everytime i look at that gaming pad...All i think about is SNES...NES, GBA...PS1!!(How do all those run?)...Thanks! Made up my mind. Oh and maybe you could Clear me up on What the Playstation Suite will offer in games? I saw Little Big Planet!
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Dude, this thing rapes for snes, nes, (don't have gba emu), and PS1. Seriously, it's an old school gamers dream. I'm replaying super mario 64, final fantasy VII, super mario RPG, and many more, and they all run and play amazing. I really hope Sony keeps making these phones, or I'm gonna have a seriously outdated phone 5 years from now
As for the playstation suite, It hasn't really taken off yet. I'll be super stoked though if LBP comes to this thing.

Freaking sweet...Now im wondering why i even thought of the Iphone! WTF? Xperia Play Here i come!

Jakndax said:
Freaking sweet...Now im wondering why i even thought of the Iphone! WTF? Xperia Play Here i come!
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Because it's thin and purty Unfortunately (for it) It's only skin deep.

You said you wanted a gaming phone. This is the only one on the planet right now
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- If you want to play a load of Gameloft games that look great, with buttons, this is the phone for you.
- If you want to play a load of emulator games, with buttons, this is the phone for you.
- If you want a great contract for a small price and this handset for free (yes if you shop around you can get it very cheap), then this is the phone for you.
- If you can put up with a few small minor flaws with the phone (although i havn't had any problems with it but some seem to) and do all of the above, this is the phone for you.
If you want to look cool with a group of isheep and pay for a large monthly contract, then the iphone is for you.

speedyink said:
I really hope Sony keeps making these phones, or I'm gonna have a seriously outdated phone 5 years from now
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Anit that the truth !!! lol
As everyone else has stated gaming with this is awesome. I am running all the emulators and have hardly played the pre-installed games. Once i finnish one game theres millions more to choose from
I cannot help but snigger now when i see people trying to play with emulators/most games on a touchscreen phone, feels good .
Even if this phone feels dated in 2 years. You will still be able to run all the emulators you've been running for that last 2 years so who cares lol. Plus fpse updates will only make fpse better and better. And once custom roms appear with processor overclocking the sky is the limit or atleast 1.6-1.8GHz which will play any game flawlessly i guess?

Mozza2k11 said:
I cannot help but snigger now when i see people trying to play with emulators/most games on a touchscreen phone, feels good .
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I know eh? I watched a video review for some gameloft fps (modern warfare 2 I think), and the dude was using a galaxy S. He was having SUCH a rough time on the first level, moving the player awkwardly about, getting hit more than hitting other people etc.
Funny thing is it's that's the reality for everyone attempting to play these types of games on strictly touch screen.

could always try these i suppose.....
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lol

Mozza2k11 said:
could always try these i suppose.....
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HA! Omg that awesome! Half the screen is covered in crap, i'm not sure how you're supposed to play

Mozza2k11 said:
could always try these i suppose.....
lol
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LMFAO !
So.....
You use a device that emulates hardware buttons........
Then you use hardware buttons to solve the problem of using a device that emulates hardware buttons........
Then you cant see wtf you are doing.
LOOOL !

Mozza2k11 said:
could always try these i suppose.....
lol
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Lol wheres the screen?
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Xperia play 2 - patent submitted

So finally maybe some taste of what will be the next xperia play ?
http://www.reghardware.com/2012/04/27/sony_planned_xperia_play_with_dual_keyboard_design/
"both a gamepad and a physical keyboard pieced together through two sliding drawers tucked behind the phone's display."
will it be for real ? or just another lost patent ?

This should be in the general section.

**** YOU ITS FAKE
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-S.E.R.K.4.N- said:
**** YOU ITS FAKE
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Watch your language bro. And how is the patent fake? http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...0426 AND AN/Sony&RS=(PD/20120426 AND AN/Sony)

-S.E.R.K.4.N- said:
**** YOU ITS FAKE
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fake? this is from USA patent : aiw2.uspto.gov
(i worked with safari browser to view this): http://aiw2.uspto.gov/.aiw?Docid=20...ageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=D5289BDDE036

it is from 2010 (before xperia play 1)
it is just a concept

this was featured on the app drippler
and it was infact an old concept for the xperia play one
back in 2010 like a previous user stated

Don't you people realise, sony patented this ONLY so their competitors couldn't make it?
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If Sony were really going to launch an Xperia Play 2 or whatever I think they would not have the picture of its predecessor for the conference don't you?
Personally I think its for the PS Suite.

This is a two year old patent, I seriously doubt it would be the Play2, besides it seems like it would be going backwards anyway, why ditch the second analogue and make it so much like the PSP Go?
This is not going to be Play2.

-S.E.R.K.4.N- said:
**** YOU ITS FAKE
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+1 I agree with this guy people need to STOP making these stupid threads every couple weeks about the xplay 2. Wake up people its all BS until sony says so all these articles are just what ifs and artist renderings which mean absolutely nothing!!!!
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I don't understand why people keep calling this fake. It's a patent. It was taken out by Sony. It was only just recently granted by the US Patent and Trademark Office which is why it's making the news now.
It's not a fake. It's a real patent.
Now, do I think that it will be the design for the new Xperia Play? No.
But that's not to say that the idea (physical keyboard AND game pad) won't be incorporated into the new design, if they even decide to make another play (let's face it... I love my play, but it was a bit of a flop).
I hope they don't incorporate it. I hate the idea of it. But, it's interesting to see none the less.
What's wrong with a bit of idle speculation on the next gen of our current phone? These forums are so negative these days.

d31b0y said:
I don't understand why people keep calling this fake. It's a patent. It was taken out by Sony. It was only just recently granted by the US Patent and Trademark Office which is why it's making the news now.
It's not a fake. It's a real patent.
Now, do I think that it will be the design for the new Xperia Play? No.
But that's not to say that the idea (physical keyboard AND game pad) won't be incorporated into the new design, if they even decide to make another play (let's face it... I love my play, but it was a bit of a flop).
I hope they don't incorporate it. I hate the idea of it. But, it's interesting to see none the less.
What's wrong with a bit of idle speculation on the next gen of our current phone? These forums are so negative these days.
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This patent is pre-xperia play 1.
Seeing as the Play was a commercial flop I really doubt a Play 2.
If there is then it wont be under the Play name
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CTU_Loscombe said:
This patent is pre-xperia play 1.
Seeing as the Play was a commercial flop I really doubt a Play 2.
If there is then it wont be under the Play name
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For starters, MS filed Halo related patients before Halo 3, that they have still not used. It's called covering your back. And secondly now sony have bought out ericsson, there will no doubt be an Xplay 2. And IMO without ericssons input, i'm expecting a much better product. It may even be sonys future flagship device.
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AndroHero said:
For starters, MS filed Halo related patients before Halo 3, that they have still not used. It's called covering your back. And secondly now sony have bought out ericsson, there will no doubt be an Xplay 2. And IMO without ericssons input, i'm expecting a much better product. It may even be sonys future flagship device.
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Just because Sony bought out Ericsson doesn't guarantee a Play 2 at all.
Even if it is just Sony covering their backs it doesn't mean its going to see the light of day just because there is a patent.
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CTU_Loscombe said:
This patent is pre-xperia play 1.
Seeing as the Play was a commercial flop I really doubt a Play 2.
If there is then it wont be under the Play name
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the Ngage was a bigger flop and still saw another version, same with the moto cliq
sony missed a great opportunity to make the play really worth while, simply adding PSP1 games would have been a great start, but this also leaves room for improvement for the play 2, which i have no doubt will arrive sooner or later
the hype before we knew what the play was, was immense, sony would do well to listen to what customers wanted and give it to us

Yeah, and I can't wait until Microsoft releases this too:
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/23/microsoft-patents-modular-windows-phone-with-swappable-batteries/
But yeah, patents don't always mean we're getting a product any time soon - they're often just an indication of research and development projects or just some cooky idea an employee had. Some might become products; some might be used defensively; some might just make the company's patent portfolio sound more impressive/valuable.
~Troop

silvacrest said:
the Ngage was a bigger flop and still saw another version, same with the moto cliq
sony missed a great opportunity to make the play really worth while, simply adding PSP1 games would have been a great start, but this also leaves room for improvement for the play 2, which i have no doubt will arrive sooner or later
the hype before we knew what the play was, was immense, sony would do well to listen to what customers wanted and give it to us
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N-Gage didn't get a sequel. It got a redesign. Same Symbian S60 OS. Same everything (bar some features).
Also don't count the Nokia N95 or N96 in there either as that was just the N-Gage gaming brand.
On the hype side, that's all it was...hype. They pulled a Sega by advertising their product without showing the device or anything like that. Sega did that with the Dreamcast. Showed the swirl logo in the clouds on one ad but didn't show the Sega or Dreamcast name anywhere.
Again, like the N-Gage, another flop (I liked the Dreamcast personally)
I don't think Sony is blind. They know the Play was a flop. What company is going to lay their chips on the table and launch a sequel to a failed piece of hardware?
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/04/24/sony-mobile-prepping-gaming-announcement-for-2-may/
Well there goes my hopes for an Xperia Play 2 Announcement/
2012 has been so full of disappointments for me its insane

I knew it
Being right is awesome sometimes
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Asus Transformer PAD line Playstation Certified

I don't know if any of you follow the facebook page but Asus just annouced three hours ago that it's officially Playstation Mobile Certified.. Sorry if this is old news delete the thread if necessary lol even though its 3 hours ago ahah...
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their the asus page is simple facebook.com/asus
Exciting isn't it? Crash bandicoot here i come

This is most definitely great news. This will bring even more great games to this already great Tablet!

More stuff to do
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forgive my ignorance, but i'm not a gamer, i've heard about the playstation (sony makes it, i think), it's a gaming console, but what does playstation certified mean? does it have something to do with the playstation?

nooktablet said:
forgive my ignorance, but i'm not a gamer, i've heard about the playstation (sony makes it, i think), it's a gaming console, but what does playstation certified mean? does it have something to do with the playstation?
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Hi nook, you're half right it being a console but its become more of a brand name and simply put it means we can officially play games.from the original console without the console of course and for some of us its great news because up until now most people would either rely on third party apps to do that and also having to deal with the issues of finding *legit* copies of the games to run on the apps. I don't know if you're aware of the Sony Ericson xperia play but on that and their tablet they would have a dedicated service or emulation of the original PlayStation games and with exclusive Sony content. But it was Sony device exclusive up until now, HTC had theirs certified first and logically Asus was next with the tegra three and all. All it means that you're going to get more out of your device now and that we're not forgotten especially at the speed Asus is rolling out devices these days.

nice
That is amazing news. Now if only you can have ps3 with android apps. And Google play.

Tuna9351 said:
Hi nook, you're half right it being a console but its become more of a brand name and simply put it means we can officially play games.from the original console without the console of course and for some of us its great news because up until now most people would either rely on third party apps to do that and also having to deal with the issues of finding *legit* copies of the games to run on the apps. I don't know if you're aware of the Sony Ericson xperia play but on that and their tablet they would have a dedicated service or emulation of the original PlayStation games and with exclusive Sony content. But it was Sony device exclusive up until now, HTC had theirs certified first and logically Asus was next with the tegra three and all. All it means that you're going to get more out of your device now and that we're not forgotten especially at the speed Asus is rolling out devices these days.
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how would we get access to these apps? or are they on the market?
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new ion? said:
how would we get access to these apps? or are they on the market?
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There is a special playstation store app for xperia play owner and sony tablet s owners. It has some PS1 games and some other exclusives. The original concept of Playstation Mobile was also to get as sony called it "garage developers" (really hackers and coders) to make applications that would be cross platform for the playstation mobile devices and PS3.
It was a while back but it was also confirmed that PSP games will come to playstation suite. I mean playstation mobile. I could not believe it when I heard it but I did some digging and found the announcment. No idea when but playing PRINNY on my TF300T is full of epic win. Now if they would EVER release KH: BBS on Playstation Store, then PSP really would be obsolete.
Basically it means that in the future we will get certain apps and emulation games that can are cross platform with sony game devices and the certain playstation certified devices. This makes the Tablet S less appealing though but it's a damn smart move. It also shows again how ASUS is the top manufacturer for Android Tablets. Affordable price, bare stock OS with little bloatware, unlocked bootloaders, first tablets (for the most part) to get OS updates and now playstation certified devices.
I use my Onlive app alot to play games so I really wanna see what sony has cooking. I PRAY that sony also brings GAKAI to ASUS Tablets. That would be awesome.

maxvsmith said:
There is a special playstation store app for xperia play owner and sony tablet s owners. It has some PS1 games and some other exclusives. The original concept of Playstation Mobile was also to get as sony called it "garage developers" (really hackers and coders) to make applications that would be cross platform for the playstation mobile devices and PS3.
It was a while back but it was also confirmed that PSP games will come to playstation suite. I mean playstation mobile. I could not believe it when I heard it but I did some digging and found the announcment. No idea when but playing PRINNY on my TF300T is full of epic win. Now if they would EVER release KH: BBS on Playstation Store, then PSP really would be obsolete.
Basically it means that in the future we will get certain apps and emulation games that can are cross platform with sony game devices and the certain playstation certified devices. This makes the Tablet S less appealing though but it's a damn smart move. It also shows again how ASUS is the top manufacturer for Android Tablets. Affordable price, bare stock OS with little bloatware, unlocked bootloaders, first tablets (for the most part) to get OS updates and now playstation certified devices.
I use my Onlive app alot to play games so I really wanna see what sony has cooking. I PRAY that sony also brings GAKAI to ASUS Tablets. That would be awesome.
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I take it this might be an app i can grab and install? Obviously not from the market but from here or somewhere...i want crash bandicoot, spyro and red asphalt dammit. Maybe even medevil...
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new ion? said:
I take it this might be an app i can grab and install? Obviously not from the market but from here or somewhere...i want crash bandicoot, spyro and red asphalt dammit. Maybe even medevil...
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eventually, as far as i am aware the playstation mobile market is not available atm. there are for sure going to be games like crash bandicoot and abes odyssey. im guessing like a bunch of psone classics and some new indie games mainly made for the vita/xperia play stuff.

mastersoup said:
eventually, as far as i am aware the playstation mobile market is not available atm. there are for sure going to be games like crash bandicoot and abes odyssey. im guessing like a bunch of psone classics and some new indie games mainly made for the vita/xperia play stuff.
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My buddy is playing crash 2 as i type this on his ps3... and i remember crash 1 on the tab s... i just want spyro dammit lol
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new ion? said:
My buddy is playing crash 2 as i type this on his ps3... and i remember crash 1 on the tab s... i just want spyro dammit lol
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Same here. Spyro was so good.

[POLL] What do you guys think of the Jolla phone? Updated 13 nov.

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As you guys probably know, Jolla announced there new Jolla phone. They have updated their site. So I recommend that you visit it!
I started this poll to see the interest in it, so please let me know what you think. I also started a poll for the OS itself. Please vote there for the software only, instead of saying that the phone is bad. You can say that here
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Specs:
Price
399€
The Other Half colors
Dimensions & weight
Height: 131 mm
Width: 68 mm
Thickness: 9.9 mm
Weight: 141 g
Processor
Qualcomm Dual Core 1.4GHz
Network & connectivity
GSM/3G/4G LTE* (Works on 6 continents)
WLAN802.11 b/g/n 2.4GHz
Bluetooth 4.0 EDR HS
AGPS & GLONASS
USB2.0 HS
Standard 3.5mm 4-pin audio jack
Micro SIM
Standard MicroUSB connectivity and charging
Extension interfaces for wireless NFC, power in/out and I2C data connectivity
* List of supported countries and operators will be published later.
Memory
16GB storage
1GB RAM
MicroSD slot
Display
Ample 4.5" IPS qHD (960x540) display
5-point multi-touch with Gorilla 2™ Glass
Camera
8MP AF camera with LED flash
2MP front-facing camera
Sensors
Proximity
Accelerometer
Gyro
E-compass
Ambient light
Power
Talk & stand-by time (approx.): 9 / 10hrs (GSM/3G) & 500hrs
User-replaceable battery (2100mAh, 3.8V, 7.98Wh)
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What do you guys think about it? Do you think that "The Other Half"

Interesting phone and interesting OS but I think they are getting it out way too slow.. but anyway if they get some air under their wings jolla phone may be my next phone ;D :thumbup:
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And about other half I think it's great idea, only thing I wonder is that is it durable enough.. we'll see
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rockknee said:
Interesting phone and interesting OS but I think they are getting it out way too slow.. but anyway if they get some air under their wings jolla phone may be my next phone ;D :thumbup:
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And about other half I think it's great idea, only thing I wonder is that is it durable enough.. we'll see
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Thanks for your response.
I agree with you about that they are a little bit too slow to release it. They are saying the end of the year
I do think that the other half is durable enough. They are ex-Nokia people so they know how to make durable stuff.
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I bought the N9, and loved that phone, but drawbacks for me where that the lag started to kick in after a while, general UI lag, and lack of certain applications. other than that it was perfect. I love the swiping thing, hence why I really like pie controls. LTE is nice and all, but I need decent battery life without switching batteries, real multitasking, and something that I enjoy using.
also the other half stuff, fingers crossed for keyboard accessory I loved the N900

m4r0v3r said:
I bought the N9, and loved that phone, but drawbacks for me where that the lag started to kick in after a while, general UI lag, and lack of certain applications. other than that it was perfect. I love the swiping thing, hence why I really like pie controls. LTE is nice and all, but I need decent battery life without switching batteries, real multitasking, and something that I enjoy using.
also the other half stuff, fingers crossed for keyboard accessory I loved the N900
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Install fastern9 if you want your phone to always be responsive.
I think it's a great phone, but I don't have money and I just got my s3 also *tears*

wardoc22 said:
Install fastern9 if you want your phone to always be responsive.
I think it's a great phone, but I don't have money and I just got my s3 also *tears*
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What do you think of "The Other Half"?

tbo-art said:
What do you think of "The Other Half"?
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Makes it look interesting and strange at the same time.
It's a cool concept, could be a complete success with useful features or just a big gimmick.

tbo-art said:
What do you think of "The Other Half"?
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I think it is an interesting idea.
I love the possibility to change my back-cover, and implementing functions to is it sounds fun.
And for people who do not like to change their back-covers, they don't have to.
wardoc22 said:
Makes it look interesting and strange at the same time.
It's a cool concept, could be a complete success with useful features or just a big gimmick.
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Yeah.
They need to make it interesting, so that many people would use the features. And when there is big userbase, other manufacturers start making their own innovations based on "The other half"(I mean other halves with different functionalities).
Sorry if the english is kinda bad. I couldn't find better words when writing this

julle131 said:
I think it is an interesting idea.
I love the possibility to change my back-cover, and implementing functions to is it sounds fun.
And for people who do not like to change their back-covers, they don't have to.
Yeah.
They need to make it interesting, so that many people would use the features. And when there is big userbase, other manufacturers start making their own innovations based on "The other half"(I mean other halves with different functionalities).
Sorry if the english is kinda bad. I couldn't find better words when writing this
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I agree with you. If they release a Other Half with a keyboard for example, then there will be a lot of people interested I think.
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it's good to see that xda is giving positive response to the jolla phone. hopefuly, "the other half" will not be a gimmick as the half of the phone depends on this.
think of it in this way: apple products has stuff like docks from connectors etc. this concept is similar to those docks. but portable.

Arty. said:
it's good to see that xda is giving positive response to the jolla phone. hopefuly, "the other half" will not be a gimmick as the half of the phone depends on this.
think of it in this way: apple products has stuff like docks from connectors etc. this concept is similar to those docks. but portable.
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I hope the Other Halfs get as many different choices as there a docks for Apple devices
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So it runs android apps...so is this Android with a launcher thats all over the OS or like BlackBerry where you need a certain runtime and .apks that have to be converted a certain format? Looks interesting, though, and if its the former I wonder how an aftermarket launcher would work :good:

ridgeracer00 said:
So it runs android apps...so is this Android with a launcher thats all over the OS or like BlackBerry where you need a certain runtime and .apks that have to be converted a certain format? Looks interesting, though, and if its the former I wonder how an aftermarket launcher would work :good:
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It is more like BlackBerry. SailfishOS is an os based on Meego. Which is based on Linux, just like Android. On top of SailfishOS there is a layer to run Android apps. I hope you can understand my explanation
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If android app compatibility is there then it can take a start.

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If android app compatibility is there then it can take a start.
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But the Android apps can't use the Sailfish stuff. So I think that native apps are really important. Lets hope that developers see this as an important platform to develop for.

How long will it take to get your hands on this phone?
I think the Jolla phone is somewhat interesting, but I'm not sure I'll ever get to try it out. There will be VERY few of them (like there were very few of the N9, which I still own today). I hope somehow the good ideas can be brought to a wider audience, especially the pully menu idea, which would be great for larger phones and allows a stable grip on the lower half of the device But really all the swipe driven UI features.are pretty slick.
Hopefully, I'll get my hands on one somehow.

hacker00740 said:
I think the Jolla phone is somewhat interesting, but I'm not sure I'll ever get to try it out. There will be VERY few of them (like there were very few of the N9, which I still own today). I hope somehow the good ideas can be brought to a wider audience, especially the pully menu idea, which would be great for larger phones and allows a stable grip on the lower half of the device But really all the swipe driven UI features.are pretty slick.
Hopefully, I'll get my hands on one somehow.
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In which country do you live? I think that they are doing a fine job for their first phone. They got Europe completely covered and they are even planning on releasing them in China. So I say well done for that. Their are a lot of phones that only come to the US, which is sometimes frustrating

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In which country do you live? I think that they are doing a fine job for their first phone. They got Europe completely covered and they are even planning on releasing them in China. So I say well done for that. Their are a lot of phones that only come to the US, which is sometimes frustrating
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LOL. I completely agree that Jolla is doing a good job, but I'm in the State of Texas! So, I'm not sure what the 4G compatibility will be, etc. But phones are my love, so if I can get it, I will.
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hacker00740 said:
LOL. I completely agree that Jolla is doing a good job, but I'm in the State of Texas! So, I'm not sure what the 4G compatibility will be, etc. But phones are my love, so if I can get it, I will.
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At least you have 4G. Here in the Netherlands the providers promise to have it at the end of the year. But I suspect that it will be the first quarter. Maybe the second.
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Nice, not amazing
The phone itself is nice, not amazing in any way. It looks very plastic-like, and makes me worry about scratches, especially on the glass-front.
The "Other half" is amazing, can be brilliant if executed well - it depends very heavily on manufacturer support.
And yes I have preordered, and will hang on to my N900 until then.

Steam controller... remind you of anything?

Steam has just revealed the new controller to go with their new OS/Console:
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http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamController/
Notice anything familiar? The Xperia Play's dual touchpads were oft overlooked, but were the device's best-kept secret.
I wrote about why they were a revelation a year ago on Xperia Gamer: http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/xperia-play-touch-pads-a-touch-of-genius.html#!
Xperia Play: ahead of its time? Only time will tell.

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Xperia Play: ahead of its time? Only time will tell.
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I have to agree with this.
Once i opened my Play (for flex replacement) i was amazed how that Play's dual touchpads is just one single touchpad like in laptops, with a simple connection to the motherboard. And i've seen so many opened laptops that even in Play's case i am surtain that ordinary PS/2 protocol is used (just as in laptops)
I'm glad to see more hardware that is based on touchpads instead of analog stick.

I really like using touchpads more often than analog sticks. The touchpad is like using a mouse, more accuracy and more speed (e.g. First/Third Person Shooters).

RoboticBuddy said:
I really like using touchpads more often than analog sticks. The touchpad is like using a mouse, more accuracy and more speed (e.g. First/Third Person Shooters).
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The touchpads on the Play are God-awful. Way to sensitive and half time my thumb slides off them. They are best left in the past
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CTU_Loscombe said:
The touchpads on the Play are God-awful. Way to sensitive and half time my thumb slides off them. They are best left in the past
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I disagree, it has the edges around it and the center pokes out a bit also. I think it really depends on how its implemented, some games control better than others.
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korrectmethod said:
I disagree, it has the edges around it and the center pokes out a bit also. I think it really depends on how its implemented, some games control better than others.
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I'm afraid CTU_Loscombe was correct, or at least for the most part. The dual touch pads on the Xperia play, for the most part, looked (and played) like utter crap, but those few titles produced by those developers that 'got' them hinted at something surprisingly innovative.
They were generally unloved and unused by developers and gamers alike. However, a handful of developers understood what they actually had in front of them: a pair of laptop-style mouse touchpads. And once you code with this in mind, you can end up with a control mechanism that more resembles the hallowed, devastating Mouse-and-Keyboard combo beloved of PC gamers. Fire up Dead Space, ShadowGun or Minecraft - three games that utterly nail the dual touchpad controls - and it looks for all the world like you are using a mouse and keyboard.
I'm not saying Valve have copied and built on what Sony Ericsson have done here - I think it's more a case of convergent evolution, but either way I've already had a taste of what this new controller can potentially do, and - naysayers and pessimists aside - I think the status quo is in for a pleasant surprise.

flat_steve said:
I'm afraid CTU_Loscombe was correct, or at least for the most part. The dual touch pads on the Xperia play, for the most part, looked (and played) like utter crap, but those few titles produced by those developers that 'got' them hinted at something surprisingly innovative.
They were generally unloved and unused by developers and gamers alike. However, a handful of developers understood what they actually had in front of them: a pair of laptop-style mouse touchpads. And once you code with this in mind, you can end up with a control mechanism that more resembles the hallowed, devastating Mouse-and-Keyboard combo beloved of PC gamers. Fire up Dead Space, ShadowGun or Minecraft - three games that utterly nail the dual touchpad controls - and it looks for all the world like you are using a mouse and keyboard.
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Well I did say it depends on the game and how its implemented. You listed 3 great games that did it right, and I'd add MC4, nova 3, and pewpew to that list.
Just because the play isn't fully supported by the app world doesnt mean its crap hardware that doesnt work. It's just an esoteric device and developers dont always put in the hours to code it specifically for our phone.
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flat_steve said:
I'm afraid CTU_Loscombe was correct, or at least for the most part. The dual touch pads on the Xperia play, for the most part, looked (and played) like utter crap, but those few titles produced by those developers that 'got' them hinted at something surprisingly innovative.
They were generally unloved and unused by developers and gamers alike. However, a handful of developers understood what they actually had in front of them: a pair of laptop-style mouse touchpads. And once you code with this in mind, you can end up with a control mechanism that more resembles the hallowed, devastating Mouse-and-Keyboard combo beloved of PC gamers. Fire up Dead Space, ShadowGun or Minecraft - three games that utterly nail the dual touchpad controls - and it looks for all the world like you are using a mouse and keyboard.
I'm not saying Valve have copied and built on what Sony Ericsson have done here - I think it's more a case of convergent evolution, but either way I've already had a taste of what this new controller can potentially do, and - naysayers and pessimists aside - I think the status quo is in for a pleasant surprise.
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I disagree. Most titles used it quite well: Fifa 12, Gun Bros, Modern Combat 4 ect.
Wonder if the Steam Controller will pull through

Steam controller looks so ugly .The contoller looks waaay Futuristic.Something like a 1996's movie that talk about the year 2100.

flat_steve said:
Steam has just revealed the new controller to go with their new OS/Console:
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamController/
Notice anything familiar? The Xperia Play's dual touchpads were oft overlooked, but were the device's best-kept secret.
I wrote about why they were a revelation a year ago on Xperia Gamer: http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/xperia-play-touch-pads-a-touch-of-genius.html#!
Xperia Play: ahead of its time? Only time will tell.
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hey steeeeve ! is that you , i always read your articles
why xperia gamer is stopped man ?

Hi mehdi.moha, thanks for your comments. I was just a contributor to the site, it wasn't run by me. The site has gone a bit quiet as of late, I think the guys that run it have been looking to do something new. I'd love to write for another website again but I'm not sure where my meagre time constraints (and, ahem, talent) would fit in.

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Hi mehdi.moha, thanks for your comments. I was just a contributor to the site, it wasn't run by me. The site has gone a bit quiet as of late, I think the guys that run it have been looking to do something new. I'd love to write for another website again but I'm not sure where my meagre time constraints (and, ahem, talent) would fit in.
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good luck steve
i wish some day i'll be read your article about xperia play 2 - review ... :fingers-crossed:

The only problem with Play's pads is that they are small. When you move your big thumb around on a small area, its way too sensitive.
You need to use "thumb roll" when you finetune your aim.
I dont think that touchpads will replace analogs sticks in the near future. There needs to be some sort of feedback to your fingers (much like when you write on the touchscreen, you always get that nice vibration)
I think that they said somewhere that Steam controllers bads "give in" just a tiny bit so that the surfaces isnt just solid piece of plastic ? Not sure though if I understood it correctly.
Steam controller could work decently with those touchpads.