So finally maybe some taste of what will be the next xperia play ?
http://www.reghardware.com/2012/04/27/sony_planned_xperia_play_with_dual_keyboard_design/
"both a gamepad and a physical keyboard pieced together through two sliding drawers tucked behind the phone's display."
will it be for real ? or just another lost patent ?
This should be in the general section.
**** YOU ITS FAKE
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-S.E.R.K.4.N- said:
**** YOU ITS FAKE
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Watch your language bro. And how is the patent fake? http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...0426 AND AN/Sony&RS=(PD/20120426 AND AN/Sony)
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fake? this is from USA patent : aiw2.uspto.gov
(i worked with safari browser to view this): http://aiw2.uspto.gov/.aiw?Docid=20...ageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=D5289BDDE036
it is from 2010 (before xperia play 1)
it is just a concept
this was featured on the app drippler
and it was infact an old concept for the xperia play one
back in 2010 like a previous user stated
Don't you people realise, sony patented this ONLY so their competitors couldn't make it?
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If Sony were really going to launch an Xperia Play 2 or whatever I think they would not have the picture of its predecessor for the conference don't you?
Personally I think its for the PS Suite.
This is a two year old patent, I seriously doubt it would be the Play2, besides it seems like it would be going backwards anyway, why ditch the second analogue and make it so much like the PSP Go?
This is not going to be Play2.
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+1 I agree with this guy people need to STOP making these stupid threads every couple weeks about the xplay 2. Wake up people its all BS until sony says so all these articles are just what ifs and artist renderings which mean absolutely nothing!!!!
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I don't understand why people keep calling this fake. It's a patent. It was taken out by Sony. It was only just recently granted by the US Patent and Trademark Office which is why it's making the news now.
It's not a fake. It's a real patent.
Now, do I think that it will be the design for the new Xperia Play? No.
But that's not to say that the idea (physical keyboard AND game pad) won't be incorporated into the new design, if they even decide to make another play (let's face it... I love my play, but it was a bit of a flop).
I hope they don't incorporate it. I hate the idea of it. But, it's interesting to see none the less.
What's wrong with a bit of idle speculation on the next gen of our current phone? These forums are so negative these days.
d31b0y said:
I don't understand why people keep calling this fake. It's a patent. It was taken out by Sony. It was only just recently granted by the US Patent and Trademark Office which is why it's making the news now.
It's not a fake. It's a real patent.
Now, do I think that it will be the design for the new Xperia Play? No.
But that's not to say that the idea (physical keyboard AND game pad) won't be incorporated into the new design, if they even decide to make another play (let's face it... I love my play, but it was a bit of a flop).
I hope they don't incorporate it. I hate the idea of it. But, it's interesting to see none the less.
What's wrong with a bit of idle speculation on the next gen of our current phone? These forums are so negative these days.
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This patent is pre-xperia play 1.
Seeing as the Play was a commercial flop I really doubt a Play 2.
If there is then it wont be under the Play name
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This patent is pre-xperia play 1.
Seeing as the Play was a commercial flop I really doubt a Play 2.
If there is then it wont be under the Play name
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For starters, MS filed Halo related patients before Halo 3, that they have still not used. It's called covering your back. And secondly now sony have bought out ericsson, there will no doubt be an Xplay 2. And IMO without ericssons input, i'm expecting a much better product. It may even be sonys future flagship device.
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For starters, MS filed Halo related patients before Halo 3, that they have still not used. It's called covering your back. And secondly now sony have bought out ericsson, there will no doubt be an Xplay 2. And IMO without ericssons input, i'm expecting a much better product. It may even be sonys future flagship device.
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Just because Sony bought out Ericsson doesn't guarantee a Play 2 at all.
Even if it is just Sony covering their backs it doesn't mean its going to see the light of day just because there is a patent.
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This patent is pre-xperia play 1.
Seeing as the Play was a commercial flop I really doubt a Play 2.
If there is then it wont be under the Play name
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the Ngage was a bigger flop and still saw another version, same with the moto cliq
sony missed a great opportunity to make the play really worth while, simply adding PSP1 games would have been a great start, but this also leaves room for improvement for the play 2, which i have no doubt will arrive sooner or later
the hype before we knew what the play was, was immense, sony would do well to listen to what customers wanted and give it to us
Yeah, and I can't wait until Microsoft releases this too:
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/23/microsoft-patents-modular-windows-phone-with-swappable-batteries/
But yeah, patents don't always mean we're getting a product any time soon - they're often just an indication of research and development projects or just some cooky idea an employee had. Some might become products; some might be used defensively; some might just make the company's patent portfolio sound more impressive/valuable.
~Troop
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the Ngage was a bigger flop and still saw another version, same with the moto cliq
sony missed a great opportunity to make the play really worth while, simply adding PSP1 games would have been a great start, but this also leaves room for improvement for the play 2, which i have no doubt will arrive sooner or later
the hype before we knew what the play was, was immense, sony would do well to listen to what customers wanted and give it to us
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N-Gage didn't get a sequel. It got a redesign. Same Symbian S60 OS. Same everything (bar some features).
Also don't count the Nokia N95 or N96 in there either as that was just the N-Gage gaming brand.
On the hype side, that's all it was...hype. They pulled a Sega by advertising their product without showing the device or anything like that. Sega did that with the Dreamcast. Showed the swirl logo in the clouds on one ad but didn't show the Sega or Dreamcast name anywhere.
Again, like the N-Gage, another flop (I liked the Dreamcast personally)
I don't think Sony is blind. They know the Play was a flop. What company is going to lay their chips on the table and launch a sequel to a failed piece of hardware?
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/04/24/sony-mobile-prepping-gaming-announcement-for-2-may/
Well there goes my hopes for an Xperia Play 2 Announcement/
2012 has been so full of disappointments for me its insane
I knew it
Being right is awesome sometimes
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I was reading this at SE-NSE.net
Apparently, it will be the next big thing in android gaming, luckily SONY is handling this, so pretty sure it will be good..
The only thing is that you have to have Android 2.3 or later, which means "Hello ARC, Bye-Bye Rachel"
Another day another piece of the PlayStation Phone puzzle falls into place. Today we have the announcement of PlayStation Suite, Sony’s new content platform that will service all manner of handheld devices.
Basically it will be an official PlayStation store run by Sony that will offer games for devices like the PlayStation Phone, but also tablets and dedicated handheld gaming devices e.g. PlayStation Portable. Sony made mention of PlayStation Suite being ‘hardware neutral‘.
Sony will be running the whole shebang, no doubt hoping that it can attract some of the bigger names in game design to bring their titles to their new platform. It’s certainly the biggest move Android gaming will ever have seen anyway.
In terms of the finer details like game titles, pricing, etc none of that is obviously known at this stage. However, one interesting tidbit is that PlayStation Suite is going to need Android 2.3 to run so it looks like the Xperia arc is in and older Sony Ericsson handsets are out.
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Or keep our faithful x10s and flash with gingerbread. There is already a gbread rom around to give us 2.3 for x10i or x10a (don't know about minis or pros because I don't own one or check their respective areas on here)but I recommend only those who are competent and know what they are doing should flash.
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i think the arc version of gingerbread may be very easily ported
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+1
Like root... first we got it on x10 and then pro and mini
Or ROMs... first we got it on x10 and then pro nor mini... (correct me if i'm wrong)
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It could well be that Sony put some kind of protection on the system to make it so only Sony phones with official roms can use the new games coming out. It's a case of deciding to flash from free x10 to another rom with all the stuff you don't need ie mediascape and timescape etc. I know on free 10 we cantuse the signature protected apps and I can't see why they would let their defences down so easily.
Personally to get the best of both I use free x10 and psx4droid v2 and there are many many games around.
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I do not doubt that 2.3 can be ported to the X10 by the developers here. My question is however, whether the X10's hardware can handle such graphics...
I think it really depends on which playstation games they plan to bring across and from which playstation ie; ps1, ps2 or ps3 or if they just intend on using existing psp titles.
The only one I think x10 couldn't cope with is ps3 imo
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I do not doubt that 2.3 can be ported to the X10 by the developers here. My question is however, whether the X10's hardware can handle such graphics...
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Exactly what I was thinking about..
The only thing that we have to worry about is the capabilities with the hardware..
I already saw the HTC EVO section worrying about their hardware handling such graphics
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It could well be that Sony put some kind of protection on the system to make it so only Sony phones with official roms can use the new games coming out.
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Doubted it, because when they announced it first in Japan, the conference clearly stated "For Android Devices"
similar to the Liveview which can be used with any android device. I really doubt the limitation to Sony Ericsson devices as this will be unwise thing to do.
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Doubted it, because when they announced it first in Japan, the conference clearly stated "For Android Devices"
similar to the Liveview which can be used with any android device. I really doubt the limitation to Sony Ericsson devices as this will be unwise thing to do.
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Yup, you are correct.
Locking to SE phones only is less beneficial, why? If this platform is open to other devices, people will be BOUND to use its software to get games for their device, in the end, who gets the money? Sony. You can sell all the device you want, but Sony will get their share of the money.The other brands cannot even advertise their products that it supports Playstation Suite, why? Doing so would just be promoting Sony, so they are pinching themselves for selling Android devices. However, SE is allowed to do so. So in any case, Sony can only gain if their game line-ups are strong. Smart move I believe Only Sony can pull such a move...There's actually more to it, but it's too far into the future, but let's just say its a BIG net from Sony to catch the Android market that no brand can escape...
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I do not doubt that 2.3 can be ported to the X10 by the developers here. My question is however, whether the X10's hardware can handle such graphics...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Xperia Play or, to be more precise, the PlayStation Suite is meant to provide PSOne games, while Sony announced the NGP (PSP successor) for newer games, right?
Is the X10 really not able to run ported PSOne games? If I compare some games like N.O.V.A or NFS for Android with old PSOne games, the graphics are at least at the same level.
qwer23 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Xperia Play or, to be more precise, the PlayStation Suite is meant to provide PSOne games, while Sony announced the NGP (PSP successor) for newer games, right?
Is the X10 really not able to run ported PSOne games? If I compare some games like N.O.V.A or NFS for Android with old PSOne games, the graphics are at least at the same level.
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The Playstation Suite is meant to provide gaming experience for android devices ( PSOne games included ), but mainly the same games that are available for the PSP will be available ( most of them at least ), because it depends on which companies want to get involved or not.
But I expect that "Minis" that are available at playstation Network will be available first.... yet I could be wrong
qwer23 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Xperia Play or, to be more precise, the PlayStation Suite is meant to provide PSOne games, while Sony announced the NGP (PSP successor) for newer games, right?
Is the X10 really not able to run ported PSOne games? If I compare some games like N.O.V.A or NFS for Android with old PSOne games, the graphics are at least at the same level.
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The Playstation Suite is a much broader range than just PSOne games. PSOne games is only part of the Playstation Suite. Therefore, there will be games where high graphics is demanded. Actually, there's already a few games that run perfectly on new devices, and lag on the X10. Now imagine having 50+ of those games...
Once again the path Sony take is really not that clear...
Will a "playstation for any Android"-system like this, not undermine their own attempt to build a new playstation phone also based on Android ??
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That's what I thought with psp phone meant to be coming out, it wouldn't make everyone buy it if you could run it on any Android. Take mediascape or timescape, the are programs designed for Android but will only run on approved Sony software and sence for HTC. It's meant to be something attracting customers to that particular brand as a major factor in the decision to buy that particular handset.
Playstation is Sonys baby after all and I can't just see them saying well there you go to the masses cos it just reduces the incentive to buy the psp phone if you can do them on any handset above a certain spec.
My 2 cents as it were.
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Once again the path Sony take is really not that clear...
Will a "playstation for any Android"-system like this, not undermine their own attempt to build a new playstation phone also based on Android ??
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There will be games where the play will take full advantage of its gaming keys in contrast with the touch screen only devices. They wouldn't put on it for no reasons Plus, there's a lot more marketing underlying all these stuff, but hey, anything that makes SE get more money, I'm happy with
Hope X10 can handle this stuff
PSP phone will appeal to gamers who want a phone...
Playstation Android Suite will appeal to smart phone users who want to game...
It's win-win..
Feels like the start of a strategy that will really own the market.
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PSP phone will appeal to gamers who want a phone...
Playstation Android Suite will appeal to smart phone users who want to game...
It's win-win..
Feels like the start of a strategy that will really own the market.
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it's a promising strategy that should seriously boost the android gaming scene, i was expecting the Gingerbread requirement since gaming is one of the flags of 2.3
which makes me wonder if the x10 will perform better with games once the 2.3 ROM is ready, or it won't make much of a difference.
I think a decent dedicated GPU will be important.. but I guess we'll see!
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The EX Hybrid Controller for iPhone 5 is a case for the device, along with two separate attachments for two separate uses. The case for the iPhone 5 itself is magnetic on the back. The two attachments that are included in the package simple snap right into place using magnets as well. One attachments is a magnetic wireless keyboard for the iPhone 5, while the other is a game controller (interesting). The whole setup uses Bluetooth 3.0 for up to 40 hours of use with the game controller as well as the keyboard.
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Website address:
Code:
http://iphone5mod.com/shop/ex-hybrid-controller-for-iphone-5/
Out of all the controller peripherals I've seen, this one actually looks practical.
I don't think iPhone with a controller can magically have the same freedom as android, but it does look good, to bad the Nexus 4 has glass back.
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This is a real Xperia Play killer.
Not Project Shield.
I'll stick with the GameKlip.
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This is a real Xperia Play killer.
Not Project Shield.
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Hardly an Xperia Play killer Not even close
damn
other brands are looking for a way to make a gaming phone , but sony ****
If there is no way of mapping buttons/controls etc then this is useless.
the only way to kill the Xperia Play, would make a keyboard like this (but with physical buttons and analogs) and that it can slide to hide .. (Xplay style) to design one day so ... (Xperia Z + That gamepad) WOOOOOW!
What's left to kill?
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What's left to kill?
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to kill, I was referring to (get the title as the first and only smartphone-console world) all other designs (consoles / android), but only the (console-android) no (smartphone-console).
are things that can not be carried in your pocket, or any time you without attracting attention because of its size or design (unlike the Xplay) ...
in my opinion, I think Xperia Play, was left behind by a matter of "Marketing" not only have little hardware, if not for the bad optimizations some games developers do (that optimize only for the top-end smartphone) (Example gameloft, which some games I can edit a file, to increase you the graphics, and yet still work excellent) ...
if we look closely, we have games with excellent graphics and which are also Xperia Play Optimized, and work perfectly (example: NFS Most Wanted, Dead Trigger, Shadow Gun, Wild Blood, The Bard Tale, Nova 3)
and on the other hand, others very badly optimized games like: Gangstar Vegas, Real Racing 3, Dungeon Hunter 4, Grand Thef Auto Vice City. (all of these work very slow even with overclock)
Luckily we have the help of developers who even do not forget this great Smartphone (eg PPSSPP - By Henrik Rydgard, Drastic DS - By Exophase) ..
Three real big issues with that:
- That thing has less control options than a snes controller. Xperia Play has the full control setup complete with dual analogs. The iControlPad had better equipment.
- The fact that it's iOS makes it automatically inferior in it's capability with peripheral hardware
- What little it does have is too akin to the classic Motorola Razr (which was famous for it's abysmal buttons)
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The bladepad is better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI-5lzYeWpY
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The bladepad is better:
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Ditto. Whatever happened to that anyway? I was actually mildly interested in the Bladepad then it just kinda flew under the radar.
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Ditto. Whatever happened to that anyway? I was actually mildly interested in the Bladepad then it just kinda flew under the radar.
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They had to change the design to make it compliant with the standard gamepad framework Apple will be releasing on iOS 7 (they are still adapting it to the standard). They will be open for orders later this year I believe.
They also said that if this is successful, they may do it for android as well, at least for the most popular handsets (I think the galaxy S4 was mentioned as an example, not sure).
Little update: Just checked their twitter. Some info:
- They refunded all pre-orders for the bladepad and cancelled them due to the framework change.
- They said Apple is making them wait until iOS 7 is released to give them complete information on their requirements (which, I presume, is delaying the bladepad).
- When asked if they would make one for the Galaxy series, they answered "It's definitely a possibility. We would like to expand to Android as soon as we are able : )"
- They are going to focus on the official framework instead of Jailbreaking...
- ...at the same time, though, they said the bladepad, while not supporting Cidya emulators right now, may support them in the near future.
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) ...
if we look closely, we have games with excellent graphics and which are also Xperia Play Optimized, and work perfectly (example: NFS Most Wanted, Dead Trigger, Shadow Gun, Wild Blood, The Bard Tale, Nova 3)
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I'd like to point out that dead trigger is no longer optimised for xperia play. I've heard that it was optimised so I downloaded it but nope, it isn't. Another user confirmed it. MAYBE it was optimised but it isn't anymore, sadly.
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Ditto. Whatever happened to that anyway? I was actually mildly interested in the Bladepad then it just kinda flew under the radar.
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I must admit, that bladepad looks pretty [email protected] sharp. I wont trade my XP for it, never in a million years. But for iphone users, it would be an excellent treat.
Heres hoping the Iphone users get this excellent looking device to improve their gaming.
As for me, XP all the way. Hey $ony... wheres the XP2... lol
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I'd like to point out that dead trigger is no longer optimised for xperia play. I've heard that it was optimised so I downloaded it but nope, it isn't. Another user confirmed it. MAYBE it was optimised but it isn't anymore, sadly.
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Actually, Dead Trigger is still optimized. Just played it to confirm, and even assured that I have the latest version.
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Nah, I'm gonna stick with my good ol' Xperia Play. Android is better though for gaming, anyway.
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Actually, Dead Trigger is still optimized. Just played it to confirm, and even assured that I have the latest version.
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Which version still works with xp? Tell me the exact version or send me your apk. Also please tell me what rom/kernel do you use, so i could try to get it working, as i really liked this game but because i was unable to use xperia play controls i didnt played it much.
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As you guys probably know, Jolla announced there new Jolla phone. They have updated their site. So I recommend that you visit it!
I started this poll to see the interest in it, so please let me know what you think. I also started a poll for the OS itself. Please vote there for the software only, instead of saying that the phone is bad. You can say that here
Official Jolla ringtone
Specs:
Price
399€
The Other Half colors
Dimensions & weight
Height: 131 mm
Width: 68 mm
Thickness: 9.9 mm
Weight: 141 g
Processor
Qualcomm Dual Core 1.4GHz
Network & connectivity
GSM/3G/4G LTE* (Works on 6 continents)
WLAN802.11 b/g/n 2.4GHz
Bluetooth 4.0 EDR HS
AGPS & GLONASS
USB2.0 HS
Standard 3.5mm 4-pin audio jack
Micro SIM
Standard MicroUSB connectivity and charging
Extension interfaces for wireless NFC, power in/out and I2C data connectivity
* List of supported countries and operators will be published later.
Memory
16GB storage
1GB RAM
MicroSD slot
Display
Ample 4.5" IPS qHD (960x540) display
5-point multi-touch with Gorilla 2™ Glass
Camera
8MP AF camera with LED flash
2MP front-facing camera
Sensors
Proximity
Accelerometer
Gyro
E-compass
Ambient light
Power
Talk & stand-by time (approx.): 9 / 10hrs (GSM/3G) & 500hrs
User-replaceable battery (2100mAh, 3.8V, 7.98Wh)
Hands on videos:
What do you guys think about it? Do you think that "The Other Half"
Interesting phone and interesting OS but I think they are getting it out way too slow.. but anyway if they get some air under their wings jolla phone may be my next phone ;D :thumbup:
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And about other half I think it's great idea, only thing I wonder is that is it durable enough.. we'll see
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rockknee said:
Interesting phone and interesting OS but I think they are getting it out way too slow.. but anyway if they get some air under their wings jolla phone may be my next phone ;D :thumbup:
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And about other half I think it's great idea, only thing I wonder is that is it durable enough.. we'll see
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Thanks for your response.
I agree with you about that they are a little bit too slow to release it. They are saying the end of the year
I do think that the other half is durable enough. They are ex-Nokia people so they know how to make durable stuff.
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I bought the N9, and loved that phone, but drawbacks for me where that the lag started to kick in after a while, general UI lag, and lack of certain applications. other than that it was perfect. I love the swiping thing, hence why I really like pie controls. LTE is nice and all, but I need decent battery life without switching batteries, real multitasking, and something that I enjoy using.
also the other half stuff, fingers crossed for keyboard accessory I loved the N900
m4r0v3r said:
I bought the N9, and loved that phone, but drawbacks for me where that the lag started to kick in after a while, general UI lag, and lack of certain applications. other than that it was perfect. I love the swiping thing, hence why I really like pie controls. LTE is nice and all, but I need decent battery life without switching batteries, real multitasking, and something that I enjoy using.
also the other half stuff, fingers crossed for keyboard accessory I loved the N900
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Install fastern9 if you want your phone to always be responsive.
I think it's a great phone, but I don't have money and I just got my s3 also *tears*
wardoc22 said:
Install fastern9 if you want your phone to always be responsive.
I think it's a great phone, but I don't have money and I just got my s3 also *tears*
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What do you think of "The Other Half"?
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Makes it look interesting and strange at the same time.
It's a cool concept, could be a complete success with useful features or just a big gimmick.
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I think it is an interesting idea.
I love the possibility to change my back-cover, and implementing functions to is it sounds fun.
And for people who do not like to change their back-covers, they don't have to.
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Makes it look interesting and strange at the same time.
It's a cool concept, could be a complete success with useful features or just a big gimmick.
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Yeah.
They need to make it interesting, so that many people would use the features. And when there is big userbase, other manufacturers start making their own innovations based on "The other half"(I mean other halves with different functionalities).
Sorry if the english is kinda bad. I couldn't find better words when writing this
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I think it is an interesting idea.
I love the possibility to change my back-cover, and implementing functions to is it sounds fun.
And for people who do not like to change their back-covers, they don't have to.
Yeah.
They need to make it interesting, so that many people would use the features. And when there is big userbase, other manufacturers start making their own innovations based on "The other half"(I mean other halves with different functionalities).
Sorry if the english is kinda bad. I couldn't find better words when writing this
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I agree with you. If they release a Other Half with a keyboard for example, then there will be a lot of people interested I think.
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it's good to see that xda is giving positive response to the jolla phone. hopefuly, "the other half" will not be a gimmick as the half of the phone depends on this.
think of it in this way: apple products has stuff like docks from connectors etc. this concept is similar to those docks. but portable.
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it's good to see that xda is giving positive response to the jolla phone. hopefuly, "the other half" will not be a gimmick as the half of the phone depends on this.
think of it in this way: apple products has stuff like docks from connectors etc. this concept is similar to those docks. but portable.
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I hope the Other Halfs get as many different choices as there a docks for Apple devices
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So it runs android apps...so is this Android with a launcher thats all over the OS or like BlackBerry where you need a certain runtime and .apks that have to be converted a certain format? Looks interesting, though, and if its the former I wonder how an aftermarket launcher would work :good:
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So it runs android apps...so is this Android with a launcher thats all over the OS or like BlackBerry where you need a certain runtime and .apks that have to be converted a certain format? Looks interesting, though, and if its the former I wonder how an aftermarket launcher would work :good:
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It is more like BlackBerry. SailfishOS is an os based on Meego. Which is based on Linux, just like Android. On top of SailfishOS there is a layer to run Android apps. I hope you can understand my explanation
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If android app compatibility is there then it can take a start.
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If android app compatibility is there then it can take a start.
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But the Android apps can't use the Sailfish stuff. So I think that native apps are really important. Lets hope that developers see this as an important platform to develop for.
How long will it take to get your hands on this phone?
I think the Jolla phone is somewhat interesting, but I'm not sure I'll ever get to try it out. There will be VERY few of them (like there were very few of the N9, which I still own today). I hope somehow the good ideas can be brought to a wider audience, especially the pully menu idea, which would be great for larger phones and allows a stable grip on the lower half of the device But really all the swipe driven UI features.are pretty slick.
Hopefully, I'll get my hands on one somehow.
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I think the Jolla phone is somewhat interesting, but I'm not sure I'll ever get to try it out. There will be VERY few of them (like there were very few of the N9, which I still own today). I hope somehow the good ideas can be brought to a wider audience, especially the pully menu idea, which would be great for larger phones and allows a stable grip on the lower half of the device But really all the swipe driven UI features.are pretty slick.
Hopefully, I'll get my hands on one somehow.
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In which country do you live? I think that they are doing a fine job for their first phone. They got Europe completely covered and they are even planning on releasing them in China. So I say well done for that. Their are a lot of phones that only come to the US, which is sometimes frustrating
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In which country do you live? I think that they are doing a fine job for their first phone. They got Europe completely covered and they are even planning on releasing them in China. So I say well done for that. Their are a lot of phones that only come to the US, which is sometimes frustrating
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LOL. I completely agree that Jolla is doing a good job, but I'm in the State of Texas! So, I'm not sure what the 4G compatibility will be, etc. But phones are my love, so if I can get it, I will.
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LOL. I completely agree that Jolla is doing a good job, but I'm in the State of Texas! So, I'm not sure what the 4G compatibility will be, etc. But phones are my love, so if I can get it, I will.
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At least you have 4G. Here in the Netherlands the providers promise to have it at the end of the year. But I suspect that it will be the first quarter. Maybe the second.
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Nice, not amazing
The phone itself is nice, not amazing in any way. It looks very plastic-like, and makes me worry about scratches, especially on the glass-front.
The "Other half" is amazing, can be brilliant if executed well - it depends very heavily on manufacturer support.
And yes I have preordered, and will hang on to my N900 until then.
Steam has just revealed the new controller to go with their new OS/Console:
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Notice anything familiar? The Xperia Play's dual touchpads were oft overlooked, but were the device's best-kept secret.
I wrote about why they were a revelation a year ago on Xperia Gamer: http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/xperia-play-touch-pads-a-touch-of-genius.html#!
Xperia Play: ahead of its time? Only time will tell.
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Xperia Play: ahead of its time? Only time will tell.
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I have to agree with this.
Once i opened my Play (for flex replacement) i was amazed how that Play's dual touchpads is just one single touchpad like in laptops, with a simple connection to the motherboard. And i've seen so many opened laptops that even in Play's case i am surtain that ordinary PS/2 protocol is used (just as in laptops)
I'm glad to see more hardware that is based on touchpads instead of analog stick.
I really like using touchpads more often than analog sticks. The touchpad is like using a mouse, more accuracy and more speed (e.g. First/Third Person Shooters).
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I really like using touchpads more often than analog sticks. The touchpad is like using a mouse, more accuracy and more speed (e.g. First/Third Person Shooters).
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The touchpads on the Play are God-awful. Way to sensitive and half time my thumb slides off them. They are best left in the past
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The touchpads on the Play are God-awful. Way to sensitive and half time my thumb slides off them. They are best left in the past
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I disagree, it has the edges around it and the center pokes out a bit also. I think it really depends on how its implemented, some games control better than others.
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I disagree, it has the edges around it and the center pokes out a bit also. I think it really depends on how its implemented, some games control better than others.
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I'm afraid CTU_Loscombe was correct, or at least for the most part. The dual touch pads on the Xperia play, for the most part, looked (and played) like utter crap, but those few titles produced by those developers that 'got' them hinted at something surprisingly innovative.
They were generally unloved and unused by developers and gamers alike. However, a handful of developers understood what they actually had in front of them: a pair of laptop-style mouse touchpads. And once you code with this in mind, you can end up with a control mechanism that more resembles the hallowed, devastating Mouse-and-Keyboard combo beloved of PC gamers. Fire up Dead Space, ShadowGun or Minecraft - three games that utterly nail the dual touchpad controls - and it looks for all the world like you are using a mouse and keyboard.
I'm not saying Valve have copied and built on what Sony Ericsson have done here - I think it's more a case of convergent evolution, but either way I've already had a taste of what this new controller can potentially do, and - naysayers and pessimists aside - I think the status quo is in for a pleasant surprise.
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I'm afraid CTU_Loscombe was correct, or at least for the most part. The dual touch pads on the Xperia play, for the most part, looked (and played) like utter crap, but those few titles produced by those developers that 'got' them hinted at something surprisingly innovative.
They were generally unloved and unused by developers and gamers alike. However, a handful of developers understood what they actually had in front of them: a pair of laptop-style mouse touchpads. And once you code with this in mind, you can end up with a control mechanism that more resembles the hallowed, devastating Mouse-and-Keyboard combo beloved of PC gamers. Fire up Dead Space, ShadowGun or Minecraft - three games that utterly nail the dual touchpad controls - and it looks for all the world like you are using a mouse and keyboard.
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Well I did say it depends on the game and how its implemented. You listed 3 great games that did it right, and I'd add MC4, nova 3, and pewpew to that list.
Just because the play isn't fully supported by the app world doesnt mean its crap hardware that doesnt work. It's just an esoteric device and developers dont always put in the hours to code it specifically for our phone.
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I'm afraid CTU_Loscombe was correct, or at least for the most part. The dual touch pads on the Xperia play, for the most part, looked (and played) like utter crap, but those few titles produced by those developers that 'got' them hinted at something surprisingly innovative.
They were generally unloved and unused by developers and gamers alike. However, a handful of developers understood what they actually had in front of them: a pair of laptop-style mouse touchpads. And once you code with this in mind, you can end up with a control mechanism that more resembles the hallowed, devastating Mouse-and-Keyboard combo beloved of PC gamers. Fire up Dead Space, ShadowGun or Minecraft - three games that utterly nail the dual touchpad controls - and it looks for all the world like you are using a mouse and keyboard.
I'm not saying Valve have copied and built on what Sony Ericsson have done here - I think it's more a case of convergent evolution, but either way I've already had a taste of what this new controller can potentially do, and - naysayers and pessimists aside - I think the status quo is in for a pleasant surprise.
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I disagree. Most titles used it quite well: Fifa 12, Gun Bros, Modern Combat 4 ect.
Wonder if the Steam Controller will pull through
Steam controller looks so ugly .The contoller looks waaay Futuristic.Something like a 1996's movie that talk about the year 2100.
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Steam has just revealed the new controller to go with their new OS/Console:
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamController/
Notice anything familiar? The Xperia Play's dual touchpads were oft overlooked, but were the device's best-kept secret.
I wrote about why they were a revelation a year ago on Xperia Gamer: http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/xperia-play-touch-pads-a-touch-of-genius.html#!
Xperia Play: ahead of its time? Only time will tell.
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hey steeeeve ! is that you , i always read your articles
why xperia gamer is stopped man ?
Hi mehdi.moha, thanks for your comments. I was just a contributor to the site, it wasn't run by me. The site has gone a bit quiet as of late, I think the guys that run it have been looking to do something new. I'd love to write for another website again but I'm not sure where my meagre time constraints (and, ahem, talent) would fit in.
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Hi mehdi.moha, thanks for your comments. I was just a contributor to the site, it wasn't run by me. The site has gone a bit quiet as of late, I think the guys that run it have been looking to do something new. I'd love to write for another website again but I'm not sure where my meagre time constraints (and, ahem, talent) would fit in.
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good luck steve
i wish some day i'll be read your article about xperia play 2 - review ... :fingers-crossed:
The only problem with Play's pads is that they are small. When you move your big thumb around on a small area, its way too sensitive.
You need to use "thumb roll" when you finetune your aim.
I dont think that touchpads will replace analogs sticks in the near future. There needs to be some sort of feedback to your fingers (much like when you write on the touchscreen, you always get that nice vibration)
I think that they said somewhere that Steam controllers bads "give in" just a tiny bit so that the surfaces isnt just solid piece of plastic ? Not sure though if I understood it correctly.
Steam controller could work decently with those touchpads.
So, browsing today, i found this: You know the phoneblox concept that everyone been talking about how it will never happen? well Motorola just announced an "open modular" Phone design scheme thing. Motorola say "WE WANT TO DO FOR HARDWARE WHAT THE ANDROID PLATFORM HAS DONE FOR SOFTWARE." (sorry about caps) Heres a link, if you want to read more: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/29/5041336/motorola-project-ara-modular-smartphones
And also, from the blog:http://motorola-blog.blogspot.jp/2013/10/goodbye-sticky-hello-ara.html
Its called "Project Ara".
Pics bellow.
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Although I appreciate tech news as much as the next guy, I don't see how you can throw in XP2 into the title. This article is merely a pseudo update of a story from earlier in the year in regards to how PC's you can build and change out parts and as such, now Motorola, is looking into the concept of a smartphone that you can build and change its components. But I dont' the concept includes a gamepad and touchpad. Even if it did Devs would still have to support it, no support then its useless.
Again, not trying to sound like an a$$ and belittle your discovery, I am actually quite glad to see a compny actually looking into it as its a nice concept. But I fail to see how or why this could be the Xperia PLAY 2.
I think people need to realize, its been 2.5 years since this phone was released, I view our phone as along the lines as the HTC EVO 3D. A one time 'test project" to see if it would be successful enough. Clearly just as HTC is not interested in making an EVO 3D 2, Sony is not interested in making a XP2.
Woah
ozzmanj1 said:
Although I appreciate tech news as much as the next guy, I don't see how you can throw in XP2 into the title. This article is merely a pseudo update of a story from earlier in the year in regards to how PC's you can build and change out parts and as such, now Motorola, is looking into the concept of a smartphone that you can build and change its components. But I dont' the concept includes a gamepad and touchpad. Even if it did Devs would still have to support it, no support then its useless.
Again, not trying to sound like an a$$ and belittle your discovery, I am actually quite glad to see a compny actually looking into it as its a nice concept. But I fail to see how or why this could be the Xperia PLAY 2.
I think people need to realize, its been 2.5 years since this phone was released, I view our phone as along the lines as the HTC EVO 3D. A one time 'test project" to see if it would be successful enough. Clearly just as HTC is not interested in making an EVO 3D 2, Sony is not interested in making a XP2.
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Well... I just thought of it as an opportunity, not to step on anyone's toes. The reason I decided to include xp2, was due to Motorola stating:"The modules "can be anything," says Motorola, giving examples ranging from a new keyboard or battery to more unusual components such as a pulse oximeter.". Im sorry Ill remove it if it makes you happy, but i just thought...
Also, Hers A video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaPf4ZIbDVM#t=125
I think the post is fine how it is. It isn't technically an xperia play 2, but maybe in time they could make gaming parts to make a gaming phone. That in a way could be an xperia play alternative.
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insane5125 said:
I think the post is fine how it is. It isn't technically an xperia play 2, but maybe in time they could make gaming parts to make a gaming phone. That in a way could be an xperia play alternative.
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Thank you. My point exactly
Overall nice find. I love the idea behind phone bloks and I'm happy companies are looking into it.
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Overall nice find. I love the idea behind phone bloks and I'm happy companies are looking into it.
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Would you consider buying one? I hear some people think it might not work due to parts being to expensive, and people "not having enough time" to customise their phones. I would definitely buy it
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mocool05 said:
Would you consider buying one? I hear some people think it might not work due to parts being to expensive, and people "not having enough time" to customise their phones. I would definitely buy it
from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play
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The thing about me is that I'm a very cautious buyer. When I buy something I make sure it does what I what the way I expect it too. So like when the PS4 & Xbox One was announced I didn't preorder it because I want to make sure there is no bugs or hardware issues. This will be the same.
Overall though yes I would consider buying one. If both phone blok and Project Ara come out I would see myself going for phone blok just because when you look at Project Ara the receivers on the back seem a little restrictive, when on phone bloks you can get difrent size parts and place them anywhere (if I want a camera on the bottom back of my phone I can do that)
PS: Have you checked out my post about the IReadyGO Much I5? If you haven't go check it out its also a Xperia Play alternative. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404623
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The thing about me is that I'm a very cautious buyer. When I buy something I make sure it does what I what the way I expect it too. So like when the PS4 & Xbox One was announced I didn't preorder it because I want to make sure there is no bugs or hardware issues. This will be the same.
Overall though yes I would consider buying one. If both phone blok and Project Ara come out I would see myself going for phone blok just because when you look at Project Ara the receivers on the back seem a little restrictive, when on phone bloks you can get difrent size parts and place them anywhere (if I want a camera on the bottom back of my phone I can do that)
PS: Have you checked out my post about the IReadyGO Much I5? If you haven't go check it out its also a Xperia Play alternative. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404623
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You do know their becoming one?
Yeah I noticed that after I posted it my bad. But the point still stands. customization is key to the success of this idea I feel.
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Yeah I noticed that after I posted it my bad. But the point still stands. customization is key to the success of this idea I feel.
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Nice to hear that
It's a great innovation
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Nice to hear that
It's a great innovation
Modular connection style, no need for modular pieces
Idea: Instead of putting modular pieces onto a fixed exoskeleton(which we still have to buy from motorola), they should develop modular connectivity, something like the connectors of a USB port, but each square "piece" having two in and two out ports on the sides, that way every module can connect to every module without the need for a base station.
Something along the lines of a jigsaw puzzle, without the need for a board.
Of course I'll admit, this will be much harder on the software side of things.
I hope a lot companies will participate like carl zeiss, nikon, canon, samsung for LENS, Wolfson, Yamaha, Roland for AUDIO, for SOCs/Mainboard Intel, TI, (Nvidia and AMD i guess?) Sony, Samsung, LG for DISPLAY, Sandisk, Kingston, Samsung, and Sony for STORAGE. I may not express stuff realistically (i am a noob). Just my idea. Like we chose our own hardware/setup and there are a lots of choices and everything.:good:
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Idea: Instead of putting modular pieces onto a fixed exoskeleton(which we still have to buy from motorola), they should develop modular connectivity, something like the connectors of a USB port, but each square "piece" having two in and two out ports on the sides, that way every module can connect to every module without the need for a base station.
Something along the lines of a jigsaw puzzle, without the need for a board.
Of course I'll admit, this will be much harder on the software side of things.
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They use pins. also, wouldn't it be really fragile?
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I hope a lot companies will participate like carl zeiss, nikon, canon, samsung for LENS, Wolfson, Yamaha, Roland for AUDIO, for SOCs/Mainboard Intel, TI, (Nvidia and AMD i guess?) Sony, Samsung, LG for DISPLAY, Sandisk, Kingston, Samsung, and Sony for STORAGE. I may not express stuff realistically (i am a noob). Just my idea. Like we chose our own hardware/setup and there are a lots of choices and everything.:good:
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Yep, that was the initial plan... Anything close would be good too
In a few years that should not only be an utopic dream; I want it to be reality! Every personal computer is a modular system consisting of different and separate components like ram, cpu, gpu and much more.
So why no modular phone?
The main difficulty is the small form factor and the fact that smartphones are products with a really short lifetime. Moreover it's easier to get a whole new smartphone than buying some components to builing his personal one.
On the other side there is a wide range of new possibilities with such a project and there are a lot of people that want to use some "special" phones. Me too!
So I hope and I think, in a few years there will come first modular phones to the consumer. But maybe they will be very expensive and with less possibilities than there theoretically could be realized. Let's hope the best!
I would definatley buy one because look so funky and awesome. and you can start off small and slowly upgrade without having to get an entirely new phone
Set Standards.
I still believe once the ground rules are down and maybe 4 or 5 boards are made available (price ranging from standard to dev standards) this will work.
Each chip must use X connector, allow a max of Y volts, amps etc.
And have on demand firmware/driver loading. Hopefully with the last option, you can hotswap certain parts without switching the device off.
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Idea: Instead of putting modular pieces onto a fixed exoskeleton(which we still have to buy from motorola), they should develop modular connectivity, something like the connectors of a USB port, but each square "piece" having two in and two out ports on the sides, that way every module can connect to every module without the need for a base station.
Something along the lines of a jigsaw puzzle, without the need for a board.
Of course I'll admit, this will be much harder on the software side of things.
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Nawbit wouldn't really make it harder for software, serial controllers deal with addressing chained devices all the time, look at SCSI and midi.
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