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So I'm a huge android nerd, and I really want a tablet. The problem I'm having is which one do I get. Here are some pros and cons I have for the ones that have been announced.
Xoom - While Motorola has impressed me with their quality and support for android phones, I feel, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the Xoom was released too early because Motorola was rushing to be the first. It has a lot of bugs and I'm not sure if it's worth taking the risk that they will support the device, or if I should wait for a second generation.
The LG slate - The specs are comparable to the Xoom and hopefully the extra time they are taking to release means there will be less bugs. I don't know much about LG as fast as android is concerned, but I am excited about the G2X phone coming out.
The Samsung Galaxy tab - I have a galaxy s phone, so that should tell you I have little faith in their ability to support their devices. I don't fault them for the original tab because they were the first and it was before dual core became the thing and before hummingbird was released. It sucks they can't or won't update the original tab, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying this one if it is really good. Again, my only issue with Samsung is that they continuously try to convince me they will support their devices and continuously let me down. Great displays, though.
HTC Scribe - Looks awesome, but single core? That wouldn't bother me much, but if they start releasing games and apps specific for dual core devices then anyone with that device is screwed.
Sho what do you think? Any input from Xoom users or anyone in general is appreciated.
Check out the Viewsonic Gtablet. Awesome specs, pretty much "unbrickable", easily customizable (perfect for android nerd), and best of all it's about 1/3 the price of the xoom, et al.
I have the xoom, iPad, and the Gtablet, and while my go to tablet is the xoom, I still can't believe how the Gtablet performs, and fun to play with (screen is not best though).
I think that virtually everything that's "unfinished" about the Xoom is really about what's unfinished in Honeycomb. So, no other vendor is going to be ahead of Motorola in this regard. In fact, they're likely to be BEHIND the Xoom to the extent that they have customized UI's and/or software that they're adding to their devices.
The only exception to this is the 4G upgrade, but I don't know of any other tablet except the HTC on Sprint's that guaranteed so far of getting 4G at all. So, that shouldn't be counted against the Xoom.
Note that I'm not trying to defend the Xoom here, but rather to point out that other devices are likely to be just as "unfinished" as the Xoom until Google releases the first big Honeycomb update. For myself, I'm going to take a good hard look at the Asus, simply because the idea of having a keyboard dock with another 24Wh battery is really attractive to me.
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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Except its still iOS which a lot of people around here try to avoid. Not because we are Android Fan Boys, but because we want it our way, not their way.
bnandrew said:
So I'm a huge android nerd, and I really want a tablet. The problem I'm having is which one do I get. Here are some pros and cons I have for the ones that have been announced.
Xoom - While Motorola has impressed me with their quality and support for android phones, I feel, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the Xoom was released too early because Motorola was rushing to be the first. It has a lot of bugs and I'm not sure if it's worth taking the risk that they will support the device, or if I should wait for a second generation.
The LG slate - The specs are comparable to the Xoom and hopefully the extra time they are taking to release means there will be less bugs. I don't know much about LG as fast as android is concerned, but I am excited about the G2X phone coming out.
The Samsung Galaxy tab - I have a galaxy s phone, so that should tell you I have little faith in their ability to support their devices. I don't fault them for the original tab because they were the first and it was before dual core became the thing and before hummingbird was released. It sucks they can't or won't update the original tab, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying this one if it is really good. Again, my only issue with Samsung is that they continuously try to convince me they will support their devices and continuously let me down. Great displays, though.
HTC Scribe - Looks awesome, but single core? That wouldn't bother me much, but if they start releasing games and apps specific for dual core devices then anyone with that device is screwed.
Sho what do you think? Any input from Xoom users or anyone in general is appreciated.
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Xoom user here and I say wait til LG and Samsung release their Tabs, play with all of them and then decide. As far as the Scribe is concerned they already make tablet specific games so with that your already screwed.
Visual360 said:
Check out the Viewsonic Gtablet. Awesome specs, pretty much "unbrickable", easily customizable (perfect for android nerd), and best of all it's about 1/3 the price of the xoom, et al.
I have the xoom, iPad, and the Gtablet, and while my go to tablet is the xoom, I still can't believe how the Gtablet performs, and fun to play with (screen is not best though).
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I also have GTab (that I'm willing to sell to anyone who wants it btw) and I have to say that customizing it is fun but using it is not. The screen is horrible and I mean really really bad, a disaster when you see it next to your phone or the xoom.
kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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That's not even one of his choices and I'm sorry but I think the xoom trumps the ipad 2 in almost all categories.
Just my input on the matter. Hope it helps.
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Except its still iOS which a lot of people around here try to avoid. Not because we are Android Fan Boys, but because we want it our way, not their way.
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Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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I still cant stand looking at the square icons all over my screen. iOS, even when jailbroken, is still boring to look at. Just my opnion but you still wouldnt be able to customize the iPad2 like I have with my Xoom.
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Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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Except the Jailbreak for iPad2 is still on the "horizon".
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Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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"Widgets".
kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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You really are barking up the wrong tree here. While the iPad 2 is great for my grandma and other non tech savvy people this is XDA DEVELOPERS and the iPad goes against everything we do here. Even with jailbreaking you will never get the full customization that you get with Android, never. Steve jobs thinks he knows best for his followers and always will. I even went and checked one out because it is more compatable with my colleges online learning center but I took one look at that horrid UI and just couldn't do it. Not to mention honeycomb is an actual tablet operating system, ios is the same OS as the iPhone just with some tablet friendly apps. Great for my gf and my mom but definitely not for someone like me who likes to tinker.
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Well not completely but compared to the other tablets Dev sections it does seem quite dormant. Just look at the Transformer or the Acer Inconia. There hasn't been much activity here besides a few mods but not any full releases.
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Well not completely but compared to the other tablets Dev sections it does seem quite dormant. Just look at the Transformer or the Acer Inconia. There hasn't been much activity here besides a few mods but not any full releases.
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Mmm... this topic has been brought up so so so many times...
It's hard to do anything when Google is keeping the Honeycomb source locked up. As far as I know the other Honeycomb tablets have been modified by the manufacturing company to alter certain parts of the Android OS and such, thus allowing for a bit more flexibility when it comes to development.
As far as the Xoom goes, it's the only official pure stock vanilla Google experience tablet, and Google is keeping it locked down without further notice. It's assumed that they will be ready to fully release the source for everything when Ice Cream Sandwich launches in the near future.
If the devs could use magic, they would. Until then... we must wait for ICS. The Xoom is Google's baby, as it was the first of it's kind to start the dawn of the Honeycomb era. When they are good and ready, the development scene for the Xoom will skyrocket in short notice. Trust me.
Also, the only other thing the developers can try besides just tweaking stuff is port the Galaxy Tab 10.1's Touch Wiz Rom to the Xoom. But it's a step back as it's only Android 3.1 while we are already on 3.2.
Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha I agree.
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Also the other devices are incorporating Xoom or Galaxy bits and catching up. This is the problem with the device officially having the newest OS out there. The will be a day when the Xooms' longevity will be evident.
As for now we have the latest and greatest already. It is hard for us flashoholics but there's a reason so much is going on with the Asus and Acer. They needed help hence the Xoom and Galaxy ports. Its lonely at the top. By the way we have Tiamat which in my opinion is the gold standard.
I'm a flashaholic. Good thing I have my thunderbolt or I would go into withdrawls.
Xoom Xoom
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Also the other devices are incorporating Xoom or Galaxy bits and catching up. This is the problem with the device officially having the newest OS out there. The will be a day when the Xooms' longevity will be evident.
As for now we have the latest and greatest already. It is hard for us flashoholics but there's a reason so much is going on with the Asus and Acer. They needed help hence the Xoom and Galaxy ports. Its lonely at the top. By the way we have Tiamat which in my opinion is the gold standard.
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+1 Very well said.
Ok I only see one issue. Has anyone tested a usb burner? What else is there that we can't already do?
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hammer4203 said:
Ok I only see one issue. Has anyone tested a usb burner? What else is there that we can't already do?
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Fully sourced custom Roms. That's what everybody is looking for. With that you would have new features, tweaks, and abilities that a stock Rom would never give you in a million years. Tiamat is the gold standard and the other devices wish they had them on their side. The team is just amazing to have created a modified stock Rom experience that works better than default stock. And when they are able to create fully customized fully sourced custom Roms... a loss for words...
Don't feel to bad because the other devices roms are usually referenced to our stock roms.
Yep i love Hammerhead!!!
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Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Awesome! How they don't realize from the past with Android custom devs how much further android could be catapulted past the competition I just don't know.
I also don't get how people are so quick to hop on the latest updates when, even without the source being released, previous versions customers by devs blow away whatever little appetizers Google farts out to us.
Anyhow, I gotta say the Xoom has come an awful long way considering the SC hasn't even been released.
Devs are friggin awesome!
Imagine if the source was out. Xoom sales would jump tenfold.
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may be we should all chip in n collect some money, get a hold of the guy who hacked into psn, n later even sony's main servers, n pursue hm to hack into google n get us what we need...n knowing anything about this guy, i bet he'd even do it for free...just for kicks...
"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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It's just a general statement, not literally meaning every single person. It's just something one says, and it's not meant to be taken literally as an individual. But ok: "A lot" of people are looking forward to the fully sourced, and full customization from a true custom Rom. And generally speaking... the first thing the average root user thinks of are the custom Roms when they hear the term "source code". Ultimately that's what it would mean when the source code is released. The devs will then have the proper tools to start developing new custom Roms. They will then begin to flood the market in due time with new and unique Roms, as was the same with the OG Droid.
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Imagine if the source was out. Xoom sales would jump by ten.
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There- FTFY.
You can only milk the same cow so many times, until more cows come along this rom release is milked out.
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"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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Well I'm sure it's a valid point for you, but being a casual Android user who roots, having an Ubuntu based rom makes no sense to me. I admit I don't even know what an Ubuntu rom is for. Is it something like porting Windows OS into the tablet? If so, I doubt many users care for something like this since rom development to them is more about tweaking, optimizing, themeing and adding functions to an Android based rom. Porting other OSes is a lot more niche and caters to a smaller group of users.
So since the Honeycomb source is indefinitely locked up by Google, themed and overclocked Honeycomb is as good as we can get for now. The next best thing to wait for is Samsung to update the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to Honeycomb 3.2 and we'll probably get Touch Wiz ported over.
I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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Oh my! as much as I don't want to spend more money, I might need to THIS LOOKS TO BE QUITE AN UPGRADE ..
To answer your question Acer has good quality for the bucks in your bank. I like Acer as this is my fist Acer product matter in fact the only complaint I have is the microphone it stinks.. but if they have fixed that which I'm sure they have ill be sure to pick this up!
Thanks for the link!
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Mic isn't bad at all, just not very loud... Some voice chat programs (including skype and gtalk, unfortunately) mess things up, though, giving you weird background noises (not on all devices, though, it works for me). Other than that, the Acer devices are very well worth their money.
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I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs
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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs
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I agree 120% with this .. I have a birthday coming in MAY .. Giggles..
if my a500 does not get the support it should.. i might just wait and get a win 8 arm tablet.. and Dual Boot it .but there is always battery issues with windows . we will see what the tech word brings us in 2012.. for now my a 500 meets all the HAVE to have needs.. as if i really NEED a tablet.
Acer always seems to be giving the best bang for your buck, whether it is laptops or not tablets.
One gripe I have against acer is their bloatware. Some may like it but others (like myself) can't stand it.
Also keep in mind that acer is releasing the A200 soon. It's pretty much the same spec wise as the A500 but apparently has no rear facing camera. The pricing looks quite attractive though. I'm still happy with my A500. I actually have no desire to replace it with something newer and better, and I usually drool over the latest and greatest in technology.
I've had an a500 since november and the build quality is great. They have been providing adequate updates so far, and I expect them to provide ICS, but we will see.
Ive been wanting to get a second tablet bc my daughter always has this one and wouldn't hesitate to buy another acer.
Other than build quality ill be looking at development on market app as well as on xda
Gameloft and other game developers choose a500 as a flag ship for development another reason I choose this tablet over Asus, Samsung, and Mototrola. I contacted Gameloft before I picked up a 10.1 tablet around September and asked them what tablet to pick up they told me Acer Iconia because Acer has been the only company that was helping them out the most with developmental needs.. so of course when I went to best buy they were out of a500s and I had 300 bucks from trading in my Droid incredible and I didn't want to wait so I picked up the thrive because of the nice stuff included with it.. but ended up having nothing as far as xda & others so picked up tf101 loved it but it kept slipping out of my hands.. lol so bestbuy finally called me to tell me the Acer was in so I picked it up answer fell in love with it. So that my awesome story and we lived happily ever after
So I will most likely pick up Acer if top devs do aswell.
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Thanks for the replies guys! I still have plenty of time to think this over. Acer is definitely a huge choice now though, and I like this community, way friendlier than the original Asus Transformer. Back before the Prime came out, I made a thread like this, asking about Asus and what to expect in the tablets, and it was immediately hostile responses. Terrible, but glad I didn't have enough to buy that Prime, so much bad reports about it. My choices are now this A700, thanks to your responses and some research, and the Asus TF700T.
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Oh, also something else, is Acer good with the bootloader? Like is it locked, or is it somewhat easy to root? Not a big deal, but just curious
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Lol your welcome too root is simple as long as u dont update u will just install an app that do it 4 you but if you dont know much about rooting you better search thses forums
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The Acer bootloader does some checksumming and stuff that makes rooting hard on the newer FWs, but there's a rooting method around that works (downgrading isn't much of a problem). As has been said, just use the search.
Alright, I was just wondering though, different company's products usually have completely different rooting methods than others; I've only ever rooted all my HTC phones, but thanks.
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Just thought some would find this info helpful..
UPDATE: Looks like this is indeed the A700. The folks at The Verge managed to find the new Iconia Tab lounging around in Vegas and discovered that it's packing a 1.3GHz quad-core Tegra 3 processor and Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, as well as the aforementioned 1080p display. It's also got Bluetooth support, a microSD card slot, and an HDMI port. As far as release details go, the A700 is said to be landing sometime in the second quarter, but no other specific launch information is known just yet.
Good news, TF700 has cleared the FCC (engadget), Wifi-only for now.
So ... will you upgrade when she comes out ?
Can't you make it a simple Yes/No/Maybe poll? I can't vote for any of those - while I *will* be buying the TF700 when it's released, I do *not* trust Asus 100% and refuse to say so!
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How about adding a "wait and see" and "other (specify)" choices?
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It will be either the TF700 or the Padphone for me, with the latter being my first choice.
But I will be waiting for some feedback and reports for both before I decide.
I do really like their hardware and they had excellent support with HC, it's just ICS that's made me sour. So I am looking forward to any devices actually built from scratch to support ICS. I will still take the wait-and-see approach, but I would be wary if Jellybean came out and Asus was rushing to be one of the first to get their hardware supported.
A little bittersweet for me.
Yea i have been waiting for this bad boy. Ill be waiting for at least a month after it comes out though. I want to make sure all the kinks are worked out in the initial shipments including hardware and software.
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If I had the money (or a job!) I definitely would since I'm a gadget freak and love to have the newest tech toys, but I'll stick with the ol' TF101 since there's nothing wrong with it.
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Will you Buy a TFT700
Yes I will
Has my experience with ASUS TF101 been 100% good? NO
But, more than ANY other company out there right now, ASUS has the hacker spirit, and I'm more prone to go in that direction than any other.
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60 is the new 16
I plan to upgrade to a new tablet. I am not perfectly satisfied with my tf101 but no one else really makes a tablet with the same keyboard dock combo.
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Asus will have to work hard for my money now, brushed aluminum and hd display will not be deal makers for me. I still don't see a boatload of apps for the Tegra 3 as promised by Nvidia. So I'm sitting this one out, maybe Win 8 has a surprise coming. We shall see.
If they unlock the bootloader and don't pull the Sbkv1-049-2150842502185 bs they did with this tab.. Of course!
This tablet doesn't appear to be worth the $400 I paid for it. The tablet itself is just boring and laggy, a ton of incompatible apps and games (due to both the tab and devs)... I mean damn, this tablet is a real disappointment. What reason do I have for justifying this tab s purchase? On top of all that, Samsung really ****ed up in the tablet area.
Seriously; give me some reasons why I. Shouldn't trash this cheap and. Get something better.
And your better would be?
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And your better would be?
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The ipad obviously
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Get a leap frog. My kid loves his.
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And your better would be?
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Nexus 7. Or at the time of purchase, ASUS Transformer Prime.
The tab its awesome.. Just flash cm9 and wait few days for Samsung to release the official ics to get the working camera... Ics rocks in the gtab 10.1 its a completely different product
And as soon as Samsung releases ics files and Google releases jb source we will have jb in the tab being beyond smooth...
Take it easy enjoy your tab good things are about to happen
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This tablet doesn't appear to be worth the $400 I paid for it. The tablet itself is just boring and laggy, a ton of incompatible apps and games (due to both the tab and devs)... I mean damn, this tablet is a real disappointment. What reason do I have for justifying this tab s purchase? On top of all that, Samsung really ****ed up in the tablet area.
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In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Seriously; give me some reasons why I. Shouldn't trash this cheap and. Get something better.
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Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.
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In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.
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Well said bro If you want to be limited by what fruit dictates rather get a fruit People that know better and want better get what works for them/us.
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Did I waste my money?
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Yup.
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The person your responding to is a troll.
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The person your responding to is a troll.
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Really? I'm a troll because I dislike this piece of **** tablet? I've been an Android user since 2008, since the dawn of the G1, but I'm a troll for disliking a product? Kill yourself. The other Android users are right; Samsung fanboys are some of the most defensive, stuck up people ever. Just because I'm a long time Android user doesn't mean I'm afraid to call out a ****ty product when I use one.
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Yup.
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Short and sweet answer, straight to the point and no trolling. You sir, get a free thanks.
BarryH_GEG said:
In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.
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It's not exactly about what it can and can't do, it's how it does it. Biggest problem I'm having with this is lag, the lag is ridiculous, and it's pretty funny because a lag free experience was what nVidia boasted about at the debut of Tegra 2.
msedek said:
The tab its awesome.. Just flash cm9 and wait few days for Samsung to release the official ics to get the working camera... Ics rocks in the gtab 10.1 its a completely different product
And as soon as Samsung releases ics files and Google releases jb source we will have jb in the tab being beyond smooth...
Take it easy enjoy your tab good things are about to happen
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Running CM9 right now (I LOVE Aokp on my Sensation, myTouch, Galaxy Nexus but AOKP is a bit odd on the tab, and crashy). Some apps are smooth, some are laggy as ****. egl drivers on this really suck though, it could be a lot better. Gonna wait and see how good (or how bad) ICS runs with Samsung's official drivers. If it's still awful then I'm just gonna get rid of this crap and go for a Nexus 7. ASUS actually does **** right and gets it right. That's why Google made them the official Nexus 7 manufacturer, and that's one of Google's best choices ever.
I wouldn't pay 400 for the GT today. A year ago, it was well worth it. If your problem is with apps, get the the iPad. If it's speed, get the Transformer Infinity or the Nexus 7. Simple.
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akarol said:
I wouldn't pay 400 for the GT today. A year ago, it was well worth it. If your problem is with apps, get the the iPad. If it's speed, get the Transformer Infinity or the Nexus 7. Simple.
Sent from my badass Galaxy SIII.
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I have no problem with apps at all, Google Play is amazing annd has a great selection of apps. But this tablet can't run most apps without lag, and it's ridiculous. iOS is an extremely boring and disappointing OS so any of those iCrap devices can go dig a hole and die in it. I want the Transformer Pad Infinity, but with $500+ vs $199 (and tax, shipping), with the only significant different being screen resolution... The Nexus 7 is hard to pass up. Sadly my laptop is ****ting out so I might have to pass up on the Nexus 7 for now and get a new laptop, but God damn.... You really have no idea how much I want that Nexus 7.
I'm still running HC 3.2 cause I want the camera but task650 has done a great job. I don't see any lag but some apps don't work which is a bummer, but I still don't think its a waste.
Lag has always been an issue but I've always just lived with it hoping for ICS to come out and save the day. Still waiting (have the verizon tablet and paying for mobile data so no, CM9 is not in the cards for me). Now having a One X in hand for my phone makes the GT feel even more long in the tooth but until there's another android based LTE tablet out there to jump to with better performance I'll stick it out with what I've got.
Depending on when you bought this, yes. I got this the first day it came out and for what it was, it was awesome. It was one of the first Android tabs and I've watched Android's tablet ecosystem grow. If you've passed this recently, there are way better options. I myself got a nexus 7, but there are lots of praise for the Asus infinity and people with their prime are generally happy with it. Good luck and see if you can get an exchange as the Samsung tab definitely isn't worth 400 anymore
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Its definitely not the fastest thing these days but I use it non stop and it runs games, music, movies, etc. just fine for me so I have no complaints. Official ICS would be cool though.
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Hey I am an Android user since G1 too and I am looking from the same perspective.
Here is what I am going to do with this crappy Tab:
I am not going to trash it but I will keep it and hate it.
This will help me remember not to get any heavily customized interface (Touchwiz, sense ... etc) device in the future and waiting 1 year for an update then getting dropped in the second update because my device cannot handle it because of the customization.
Moral: Keep it simple and light.
Can not say install CM instead, as it is not an valid alternative. Don't take me wrong but my level of reliability I am looking for is just higher than that.
HawaiianLaker said:
I'm still running HC 3.2 cause I want the camera but task650 has done a great job. I don't see any lag but some apps don't work which is a bummer, but I still don't think its a waste.
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True, GalaxyTask ROMs are actually the best ROMs here, which I find disappointing because ICS is a lot lighter than Honeycomb ever was. Even so, apps still lag, and every browser I use crashes.
muzzy996 said:
Lag has always been an issue but I've always just lived with it hoping for ICS to come out and save the day. Still waiting (have the verizon tablet and paying for mobile data so no, CM9 is not in the cards for me). Now having a One X in hand for my phone makes the GT feel even more long in the tooth but until there's another android based LTE tablet out there to jump to with better performance I'll stick it out with what I've got.
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I have a bad feeling ICS won't save the day either. I have an even worse feeling we'll just be getting ICS after Jellybean is released.
ky0nkyon said:
Depending on when you bought this, yes. I got this the first day it came out and for what it was, it was awesome. It was one of the first Android tabs and I've watched Android's tablet ecosystem grow. If you've passed this recently, there are way better options. I myself got a nexus 7, but there are lots of praise for the Asus infinity and people with their prime are generally happy with it. Good luck and see if you can get an exchange as the Samsung tab definitely isn't worth 400 anymore
My life for Aiur
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The Transformer Prime was slowly being released when I got this, but it was sold out and patience is non existent with me.
salamt said:
Hey I am an Android user since G1 too and I am looking from the same perspective.
Here is what I am going to do with this crappy Tab:
I am not going to trash it but I will keep it and hate it.
This will help me remember not to get any heavily customized interface (Touchwiz, sense ... etc) device in the future and waiting 1 year for an update then getting dropped in the second update because my device cannot handle it because of the customization.
Moral: Keep it simple and light.
Can not say install CM instead, as it is not an valid alternative. Don't take me wrong but my level of reliability I am looking for is just higher than that.
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Nexus 7 is calling your name too
Its a shame your experience is so poor with this tab. I love the galaxy tab 10.1, running honeycomb 3.2. I luckily don't experience this lag and never have. I have the US model bought on first release a year ago and I still love it today. Use it for everything these days. Music, movies, streaming all from my WD Live hub, connect to my smart tv via HDMI or wifi direct. My mate bought the galaxy tab 2 10.1 yesterday and running them side by side the tab 2 was even smoother ics is an improvement but with touchwiz looks the same as honeycomb tbh.
Maybe you should take your tab back for a refund and do more research and see if there is something more suited to your needs.
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