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Acer Quality

I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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Oh my! as much as I don't want to spend more money, I might need to THIS LOOKS TO BE QUITE AN UPGRADE ..
To answer your question Acer has good quality for the bucks in your bank. I like Acer as this is my fist Acer product matter in fact the only complaint I have is the microphone it stinks.. but if they have fixed that which I'm sure they have ill be sure to pick this up!
Thanks for the link!
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Mic isn't bad at all, just not very loud... Some voice chat programs (including skype and gtalk, unfortunately) mess things up, though, giving you weird background noises (not on all devices, though, it works for me). Other than that, the Acer devices are very well worth their money.

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I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs

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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs
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I agree 120% with this .. I have a birthday coming in MAY .. Giggles..
if my a500 does not get the support it should.. i might just wait and get a win 8 arm tablet.. and Dual Boot it .but there is always battery issues with windows . we will see what the tech word brings us in 2012.. for now my a 500 meets all the HAVE to have needs.. as if i really NEED a tablet.

Acer always seems to be giving the best bang for your buck, whether it is laptops or not tablets.
One gripe I have against acer is their bloatware. Some may like it but others (like myself) can't stand it.
Also keep in mind that acer is releasing the A200 soon. It's pretty much the same spec wise as the A500 but apparently has no rear facing camera. The pricing looks quite attractive though. I'm still happy with my A500. I actually have no desire to replace it with something newer and better, and I usually drool over the latest and greatest in technology.

I've had an a500 since november and the build quality is great. They have been providing adequate updates so far, and I expect them to provide ICS, but we will see.
Ive been wanting to get a second tablet bc my daughter always has this one and wouldn't hesitate to buy another acer.

Other than build quality ill be looking at development on market app as well as on xda
Gameloft and other game developers choose a500 as a flag ship for development another reason I choose this tablet over Asus, Samsung, and Mototrola. I contacted Gameloft before I picked up a 10.1 tablet around September and asked them what tablet to pick up they told me Acer Iconia because Acer has been the only company that was helping them out the most with developmental needs.. so of course when I went to best buy they were out of a500s and I had 300 bucks from trading in my Droid incredible and I didn't want to wait so I picked up the thrive because of the nice stuff included with it.. but ended up having nothing as far as xda & others so picked up tf101 loved it but it kept slipping out of my hands.. lol so bestbuy finally called me to tell me the Acer was in so I picked it up answer fell in love with it. So that my awesome story and we lived happily ever after
So I will most likely pick up Acer if top devs do aswell.
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Thanks for the replies guys! I still have plenty of time to think this over. Acer is definitely a huge choice now though, and I like this community, way friendlier than the original Asus Transformer. Back before the Prime came out, I made a thread like this, asking about Asus and what to expect in the tablets, and it was immediately hostile responses. Terrible, but glad I didn't have enough to buy that Prime, so much bad reports about it. My choices are now this A700, thanks to your responses and some research, and the Asus TF700T.
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Oh, also something else, is Acer good with the bootloader? Like is it locked, or is it somewhat easy to root? Not a big deal, but just curious
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Lol your welcome too root is simple as long as u dont update u will just install an app that do it 4 you but if you dont know much about rooting you better search thses forums
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The Acer bootloader does some checksumming and stuff that makes rooting hard on the newer FWs, but there's a rooting method around that works (downgrading isn't much of a problem). As has been said, just use the search.

Alright, I was just wondering though, different company's products usually have completely different rooting methods than others; I've only ever rooted all my HTC phones, but thanks.
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Just thought some would find this info helpful..
UPDATE: Looks like this is indeed the A700. The folks at The Verge managed to find the new Iconia Tab lounging around in Vegas and discovered that it's packing a 1.3GHz quad-core Tegra 3 processor and Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, as well as the aforementioned 1080p display. It's also got Bluetooth support, a microSD card slot, and an HDMI port. As far as release details go, the A700 is said to be landing sometime in the second quarter, but no other specific launch information is known just yet.

Sticking with the OG TF?

So I have been reading a lot of threads recently about people debating upon the two, and just wanted to know who plans on upgrading and whos staying.
Personally I own the OG Transformer, rooted of course, and have no intentions to update, a new processor is not going to get me to give up my pride and joy!

I'm honestly glad to have a TF101 now and didn't sell it off to get a Prime. With all of the problems with the Prime (poor wifi, removed GPS functionality) I am happy to have let it pass by. That said, I am kinda drooling over the just announced TF700T.... basically a re-designed Prime to fix wifi/gps and with a 1920x1200 resolution!!! Yummy!!!

The TF Prime looks pretty half baked. By the looks of it Asus more or less released a beta product and then charged 500 bucks for it. Once problems started cropping up they announce the TF700 as an "upscale" version of the original Prime which was fraught with issues. I think I will stick to my original TF101 to see if anyone with a clue makes a compelling upgrade for me.

a.mcdear said:
I'm honestly glad to have a TF101 now and didn't sell it off to get a Prime. With all of the problems with the Prime (poor wifi, removed GPS functionality) I am happy to have let it pass by. That said, I am kinda drooling over the just announced TF700T.... basically a re-designed Prime to fix wifi/gps and with a 1920x1200 resolution!!! Yummy!!!
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And the prime dock is supposed to be interchangeable drool lol

I got my tranformer in early december as a gift from my mother. I was seriously thinking about selling it and going for the prime but it's sufficient for what i use it for. Like everyone else I'm seeing a LOT of negative Prime feedback.
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There are only two reasons I can see for getting a Prime if you already have the OG.
A.) You just got to have it. Just like that 2012 Lambo in your driveway.
B.) You're in need of a 32GB/$500 price range tablet with a dock and can choose between TF101-B1 and TF202-B1.
In boat B, I was still tempted to get another TF101-B1 but don't want e.g. a B80 to replace my B50.
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I'm a fan of sticking with a device until it no longer suits my needs. my tf does everything I need it to wonderfully. there may be quite a few generations of tablets before I "need" to update.

Now that I have some money, I probably would sell off my transformer to get the TF700T eventually..

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The TF Prime looks pretty half baked. By the looks of it Asus more or less released a beta product and then charged 500 bucks for it. Once problems started cropping up they announce the TF700 as an "upscale" version
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That's utter crap...
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Asus totally rushed the Prime. Quad core is good and all but they should've spent more time on the OG Transformer. For Example, correcting the power button, light bleeding from the screen, and HONEYCOMB!!! However, in the world of business I guess you have to do everything and anything to remain relevant. I'm Sticking with my Transformer!

Indeed the prime is not even released in most countries and they already announce a new version... they just wanted to be the first on the market and rushed the product release.
ICS is released for it now only a couple of weeks after, as if a normal company wouldn't have waited 2 weeks more for a proper release and as if they didn't know the GPS was borked when they shipped out the product.
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i will make up my mind after ics update is released for tf101. HC makes the tablet slightly unresponsive and i can definitely feel the lag here and there. if ics makes all that go away, it just feel like brand new device again for me and i am happy to stick with it until either it's stolen, destroyed or sold

Sticking with the OG as well. It took me a while to get the original one without bleeding on the bottom. Now there's reports that Prime has GPS issues (or GPS is unsupported to begin with due to the unibody design), I very much like my TF101 with working GPS. This is not to ignore that the Prime has a boatload of new features including a better screen, thinner profile, better design, better cameras, better processor, etcetera.
But the TF101 works and Asus is on a tear releasing new tablets way too often, they've just announced the TF700 that probably pissed off some Prime customers.
In all, TF101 works, I got one without problems, I'll keep it until at least a year or two when the landscape has settled and I can see what's coming out or is out and then replace my TF101 with the best Asus tablet then. Selling and buying every time they release a new one is somewhat stupid IMO, especially when Asus is releasing tablets so quickly. It's best to wait IMO until your device becomes old and outdated and unsupported and then choose.

Tubular said:
Sticking with the OG as well. It took me a while to get the original one without bleeding on the bottom. Now there's reports that Prime has GPS issues (or GPS is unsupported to begin with due to the unibody design), I very much like my TF101 with working GPS. This is not to ignore that the Prime has a boatload of new features including a better screen, thinner profile, better design, better cameras, better processor, etcetera.
But the TF101 works and Asus is on a tear releasing new tablets way too often, they've just announced the TF700 that probably pissed off some Prime customers.
In all, TF101 works, I got one without problems, I'll keep it until at least a year or two when the landscape has settled and I can see what's coming out or is out and then replace my TF101 with the best Asus tablet then. Selling and buying every time they release a new one is somewhat stupid IMO, especially when Asus is releasing tablets so quickly. It's best to wait IMO until your device becomes old and outdated and unsupported and then choose.
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I agree. I will probably keep My transformer for about a year or so. Hell, I still have my HD2 in mint condition. I like to hold on to products until they're obsolete and not just upgraded (e.g. extra camera and memory)

As someone who has a B40 transformer (yeah an oldie) and just got a dock if i were to get another tablet i would be getting a memo. I could afford $250 as an upgrade and it wouldn't have the primes problems, would be much fore pocketable as well as have a tegra 3. Would just need to see what the dev community would be like but at its price...

shadymouse said:
I agree. I will probably keep My transformer for about a year or so. Hell, I still have my HD2 in mint condition. I like to hold on to products until they're obsolete and not just upgraded (e.g. extra camera and memory)
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i was on the same boat, till i upgrade my hd2 to galaxy note

I'm not made of money so I'll be sticking with my TF101.

regP said:
I'm a fan of sticking with a device until it no longer suits my needs. my tf does everything I need it to wonderfully. there may be quite a few generations of tablets before I "need" to update.
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I totally agree with this, as tempting as the newer models are.........

I like the fact my OG dont show finger prints all over the outside and that it has two speakers.

34Ford said:
I like the fact my OG dont show finger prints all over the outside and that it has two speakers.
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The speakers are very loud and clear. My friend's laptop speakers can't even compete, despite the fact he paid $200 dollars more lol. I haven't heard the sound on the Prime though, I wonder if its as loud and clear as ours.
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Asus prime got bad karma from xoom users

http://www.talkandroid.com/82990-fo...idForums+(Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)
Thats what happen when you rush releases, be happy that google and motor ola are testing ics before release (or maybe not).

Serves 'em right...
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jerses said:
http://www.talkandroid.com/82990-fo...idForums+(Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)
Thats what happen when you rush releases, be happy that google and motor ola are testing ics before release (or maybe not).
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Well said.
Asus botched the HW by rushing it, and have already essentially announced its replacement. Sounds like they did the same with the ICS release also.
I bought an ASUS high-end laptop 4 or 5 years ago - it was not quite a 1st tier product; they cut too many corners. But to be honest, I barely missed Amazon's first pre-order; I'd have bought one if I could have (That early-adopter itch.....I was lucky in this case)
Thinking about Lenovo or Toshiba now, and giving the grandkids the Xoom with ICS; but will wait a couple of months until I see what is both hot and working in the tablet market.
Sad that Moto has no real new products at this point at least. Their problem, not mine.

Because their dev team is so much inferior to our EOS team and all Xoom Devs.

Remember what the Xoom was like when it first came out? Buggy, slow, and a browser that wouldn't stay running for more than 5mins.

No way the Xoom was ever that bad. It's like a train wreck over there. Not only the GPS, wifi, Bluetooth issues, also problems with touch screen and especially the display, which has developed very strong horizontal banding, mostly since the ICS upgrade Asus support sounds much less effective and concerned than Motorola.
I'm really glad I have a Xoom.

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Serves 'em right...
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What about the end users? Does it serve them right that their $500 (or $600) tablet is now closer to totally unusable after the ICS update? As if their pre-ICS hardware issues weren't enough of a slap in the face. There is nothing "right" about their Transformer Primes having hardware and software issues and definitely nothing right about gloating about it. I'm not a Transformer Prime owner (I'm a proud fellow Xoom owner) but its not right to make fun of the situation. ASUS has nothing to lose other than positive mind share while their consumers are stuck with a very expensive paperweight.
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What about the end users? Does it serve them right that their $500 (or $600) tablet is now closer to totally unusable after the ICS update? As if their pre-ICS hardware issues weren't enough of a slap in the face. There is nothing "right" about their Transformer Primes having hardware and software issues and definitely nothing right about gloating about it. I'm not a Transformer Prime owner (I'm a proud fellow Xoom owner) but its not right to make fun of the situation. ASUS has nothing to lose other than positive mind share while their consumers are stuck with a very expensive paperweight.
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I agree, it's a sad situation for the TF Prime owners. Hopefully they will get a fix for some of the most egregious problems very soon.

okantomi said:
I agree, it's a sad situation for the TF Prime owners. Hopefully they will get a fix for some of the most egregious problems very soon.
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ASUS owes their Transformer Prime customers a HUGE sincere apology. Make that two: one for bad hardware design choices and one for a horrible software experience. For example, their solution for the poor GPS reception is to remove it as a listed feature for the Transformer Prime on their website? Nice one.
Anything not done right is not worth doing at all...

1. I'm glad I returned my Prime and picked up the Xoom. The Prime is now $400 in some spots and I'd still pick the Xoom over it.
2. Motorola is smart for doing the soak tests.

Are you selling Tf101 and buying Nexus7?

Thoughts?
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Though I would love quick updates, I plan on using my transformer for quite awhile. Unless I somehow win the lottery and all my tech dreams could become reality...just some wishful thinking.

tf101 isnt going to cut it for engineering next year so i was going to get a zenbook but i do like having a tablet around and the nexus 7 seems to be the best bang for your buck,

No interest in the Nexus, but I'll be following the release of the 700. If it doesn't have the issues of the Prime, I may upgrade.

Almost began to think about it....
Nexus 7 looks nice, and at a good price. Plus, updates straight from google sounds wonderful (although having an asus is the next best thing). However, unless it had a keyboard like the transformer, I just can't see myself making the upgrade.

At first I was tempted but I would miss the 10" screen to read. Plus I have my hesitations with ASUS throwing the Nexus 7 together in the short amount of developing time they had.

Nope .... I currently have the TF101 and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0. Updates from Google would be great with the Nexus 7, but I'd miss the IR blaster feature of the Samsung (currently use the Peel app with it), and right now I just have no need or use for 2 different 7" tabs. I'm planning to buy a new 10" tablet in a month or so, though, to replace the TF101.

I have a Nexus7 on order (a 16GB one, given the lack of MicroSD), but am keeping my transformer. They will serve different purposes (I believe).
If it turns out the Nexus7 replaces the TF, then I will sell it, but I am anticipating they will live in harmony...

The TF has too much functionality with the dock and size to give up. I'm considering getting the TF700, assuming it has no problems unlike the tf201 and tf101 had when they came out. I'd like to use it in college to replace my notebook, and maybe my books.
Also, Asus took care of every problem the TF lineup has had so far, even replacing hardware in the tf101 dock and giving away the TF201 gps dongle. That is awesome customer service. On top of that I have 2 local Asus service centers here, both of which have people who are willing to help and with most repairs done within 24 hours, and if they don't have the parts in stock I can keep my tablet until they come in. I doubt Google can even come close to that customer service. Give me an Asus Nexus tablet and we'll talk.

typci said:
The TF has too much functionality with the dock and size to give up. I'm considering getting the TF700, assuming it has no problems unlike the tf201 and tf101 had when they came out. I'd like to use it in college to replace my notebook, and maybe my books.
Also, Asus took care of every problem the TF lineup has had so far, even replacing hardware in the tf101 dock and giving away the TF201 gps dongle. That is awesome customer service. On top of that I have 2 local Asus service centers here, both of which have people who are willing to help and with most repairs done within 24 hours, and if they don't have the parts in stock I can keep my tablet until they come in. I doubt Google can even come close to that customer service. Give me an Asus Nexus tablet and we'll talk.
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ASUS makes the Nexus 7, so your wish is granted!

Thought about it but for me it makes more sense to wait as my TF101 is working fine so far (Revolver). I take it on trips with my external SD card have access to music and shows.
Got used to the big screen, although id like to see something in between 8 - 10 inches. Hopefully the next batch of tablets from google will make warrant a switch (2GB maybe?)
The TF101 is a great device (if you exclude the software problems), hope to get a good working stable port from JB

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ASUS makes the Nexus 7, so your wish is granted!
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So, if it breaks, I take it to the Asus service center? Awesome.
Now I just need the nexus version of the TF700!:victory:

I thought about it, but the screen size and functionality of the transformer is much more suited to my needs. To satisfy my gadget hunger, I may buy one for the other half though. Seems too good not to? I use my tablet all the time at home, the nexus 7 is ideal to take out with you, except for the lack of 3g. Hot spots are everywhere around here though.
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Sell an asus tablet and buy another asus tablet.... ummm no.
Sell an asus tablet and never buy another one.... yes

as much as i liked my 7" Gtab i dont think i could drop down in size.
the keyboard and connectivity are brilliant so i think the Tf300 could be on the cards at some point or see what the next gen after that brings.

I'm going to sell one of my laptops on eBay and buy the Nexus 7. I'll be keeping my TF though. - sheureka

I want one but 10 inch is better in my opinion (that's what she said).
Like everyone here said ima upgrade to the infinity instead. Although nexus 7 is really a beasty tablet
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spent 550 for my xformer and its dock.
bought the nexus7 16gb for 234 (deal).
i dont think itll be worth it to throw my xformer away for like 200 with dock (guessing thats how much its worth). might just keep it on the side for kicks and giggles.
honestly i cant imagine using the transformer and a nexus 7 tho.

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I'm going to sell one of my laptops on eBay and buy the Nexus 7. I'll be keeping my TF though. - sheureka
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Keeping transformer and ordering nexus 16g version. Having also Nook color on cm7 my preference is for 7 to 8 inch form.
Debating whether to keep nook color though for reader only as wife or kids can still use it to read.
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I've thought about it but I know I would miss the keyboard. IMO a 10" screen is too awkward for me to type comfortably on in landscape mode because I have smaller hands, although it is a nice size for general viewing and media consumption. In hindsight I probably would have been better off getting the slider since in the year I've had the TF and dock I rarely ever use the touchpad. I think 8"-9" would be a perfect size for me.
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Very cool the next transfomer

Think this is very cool and a logical next step,I love my pc but preffer to use social media and other things like new feeds etc on android just a better UI than doing it on PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuP4kPmfhKI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I don't think that's gonna be the end to the standard transformer arcitecture, but I can definitely seeing it selling some units. It is proof that Asus stiill has some innovative tricks up their sleeves though.

After yhe tf101 fiasco with unstable official Roms im done with Asus tablets!
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Exnor said:
After yhe tf101 fiasco with unstable official Roms im done with Asus tablets!
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After the way ASUS abandoned the TF 101 users I would think any intelligent person would run from any ASUS product.

Exnor said:
After yhe tf101 fiasco with unstable official Roms im done with Asus tablets!
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For me, the official ROM is extremely stable, much better than other devices like HTC or lower end crap.
Rumbleweed said:
After the way ASUS abandoned the TF 101 users I would think any intelligent person would run from any ASUS product.
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I completely share your point in the sense that they should have offered 4.1 to their customers, however I can understand that from a business point of view, it wasn't worth the time and investment since most devices are out of warranty or very close to. So they would have to spend time and money building an OS not to support it; it doesn't make much sense.
There's also plenty of other companies that "abandoned" their customers, Asus are far from the exception - they are however high profile so people tend to notice more. The tf101 is their oldest model... then a whole 8 months for the Prime to come out. Even if you feel abandoned, this hardware is still full of potential and better than newer devices and :good: the community has awesome devs working to bring us the best.
I for one will not be looking into the AiO because I want my tablet to be portable, this kinda beats the purpose... I don't like traveling with my TV. But I'm interested to see what will be the next line of tablet-sized transformers.