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EVO tablet

I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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babyschoof said:
I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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You got it. i'll pass that along to HTC. i'm SURE they'll listen and jump on it straightaway.
Seriously though, the ipad is difficult to beat. they did actually make a major upgrade in the new A5 processor with dual core. they also thinned it out a bit, the rest is mediocre like you said.

HTC already announced it, it's called the HTC Flyer and it doesn't look all that good. Single core running a tablet like sense on top of 2.3.

Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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babyschoof said:
Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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Um .... Cm _is_ just AOSP...

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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You just defined what Cyanogenmod is in your own post and discredited it at the same time.

Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.

Award Tour said:
Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
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"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).

Justin.G11 said:
"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
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I was replying to the poster who said that OEMs should be consulted by CM. I'm just saying that OEMs have to get Android running on the hardware period, not to mention develop/design their overlays, which as much as I hate, are far more encompassing than the features/tweaks CM adds. Bottom line: they got much more to worry about than mostly just cleaning up. Not trying to discredit CM, just suggesting not to downplay the bigger role OEMs have in the process.

Thank you for the laugh of the day. VERRY WELL SAID?
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I've got the answer. The hardware is so similar between the vendors now, so google should set the standard (not the crappy half assed job they did before) and do an X-Prize type contest. Make one kick butt tablet and have the best minds compete. No skins, no bloatware, just a solid device. Sure they burn a lot of bridges with their vendors, but everyone would want it, and Google comes out ahead in the long run. Truly compete against apple with an open platform. The gPhone!
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Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.

Imprezed said:
Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
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Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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novanosis85 said:
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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It fills a niche. I personally have a hard time buying any of the "phone" tablets because if I'm on a computer 99% of the time I either have a IDE/Photoshop/Illustrator open. None of the current tablets will able to do what I need. But Windows 7 is not really fit for tablet - I used to have a Tablet PC running Windows 7 and you might as well just get a decent dual core Atom netbook (which I do have) because it's not worth it.
What I'm waiting for is Windows 8. It'll probably be very touch friendly in desktop mode and is suppose to have a secondary WP7/Metro-like shell which I assume will also be able to run mobile/tablet-like mini apps. Either use it like a iPad/Xoom/whatever or dock it to a keyboard and get real **** done. Best of both worlds and it'll probably work great with next gen Atoms or energy sipping multiple core ARM CPUs.

Can I just say that the guy bagging on CM7 is a douche? Can this be a "douche-bump" post?
That just happened!

What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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CM is not for everyone. Saying cm is the only reason to be on these forums is retarded. Might ad well rename this site cm7-4-life.com.
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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That's great that you're a big fan of CM, but not everyone likes or uses their ROMs. AOSP is not for everyone, that's why I'm glad we have choices.
MIUI 1.2.25 with stock kernel
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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are you talking to me? Because CM is just about the only ROM I use and the reason why I even got the EVO in the first place. I think you're completely missing my point.
Someone said that OEMs (like HTC, Samsung) should get consulted by the CM team. I said its not a fair comparison because:
A. Most of the time CM depends on OEM provided drivers to get CM running. That in itself can be a hard thing to implement from scratch on a new device. Android isn't like Windows where you can buy a license and Microsoft provides full support.
B. OEM skins like Sense and Touchwiz are much bigger projects than the tweaks/functions that CM adds.
I just thought that poster was undervaluing how much the OEM has to do, and that getting consulted by the CM team is probably not as valuable to them as he thinks.
If any team should do contracting/consulting, it should be the MIUI team. Their work is incredibly impressive and covers a far larger scope than CM. At least they do a consumer/user friendly job at modifying/skinning Android - the best on Android in fact, OEM skins/overlays included.
Anyway, you took this way too personally and over blown it (why?) way beyond what it is. I appreciate and use CM but am not disillusioned or completely uninformed by the reality of consumer development.
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Ice Cream Sandwich = No HC Custom Roms?

http://phandroid.com/2011/05/10/goo...mb-because-they-wanted-to-wait-for-ice-cream/
According to this we wont be seeing any HC source until ICSW is out, so we get no custom roms until Q4?
Am I wrong? Please tell me!

o.m.g no
im feeling bad....as bad as when I first watched rebecca black
Please, someone with knowledge confirm this unsaintly act untrue!

Well Google did say they were holding back the source when HC came out. They didn't give a date or even if it would be released so tbh if they are now saying it will be released, it's an improvement on what we already knew.
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I'm not sure what I would want in a custom rom, all I want is plain android and we already have that.
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Bauxite said:
I'm not sure what I would want in a custom rom, all I want is plain android and we already have that.
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Do you understand what I mean by custom roms? lol

Do you understand what you mean by custom ROMs? If you had a custom ROM, it would no longer be plain "vanilla" Android, which is what Bauxite wants. I agree with Bauxite, I think it's likely most custom ROMs will be inferior to the stock experience in Honeycomb, at least initially. Not that I wouldn't try a few on for size.
Fortunately without access to the Honeycomb source code we still have plenty of options to customize kernels, theme our interface, and overclock with root access.

I really don't think we need any roms either.
Nothing could really be done other than Themes and Deodexing.

DroidHam said:
Do you understand what I mean by custom roms? lol
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Of course I do, but who cares about things like theming, and adding/removing built in apps. Sure CM7-like features would be nice, but the honeycomb experience itself is about as good as it gets
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Bauxite said:
Of course I do, but who cares about things like theming, and adding/removing built in apps. Sure CM7-like features would be nice, but the honeycomb experience itself is about as good as it gets
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Hmm. I get what you're saying, I always like a vanilla OS too. However, until those hero devs of ours get a chance to play with the HC source I'm nit sure you can say this is as good as it gets.... just look at the awesome kernel work that's being done!
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Maybe what we need its not Custom rom but theme builder or something like that. If its true honeycomb will be equal to every honeycomb tablet (apart from the widgets) then there is no point in modding... i mean there was a point in doing it with a outdated phone but not with honeycomb and future ice cream

Kcarpenter said:
I really don't think we need any roms either.
Nothing could really be done other than Themes and Deodexing.
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Yes. Themes. Agreed.

DroidHam said:
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/10/goo...mb-because-they-wanted-to-wait-for-ice-cream/
According to this we wont be seeing any HC source until ICSW is out, so we get no custom roms until Q4?
Am I wrong? Please tell me!
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Don't hold your breath on ever seeing the HC source. They have held it back, mainly in part because once it goes AOSP they effectively loose control of its final application. For example, think of all the craplets that come out of Shenzhen taking Android and putting in on devices it was not intended to go on which resulted in a exceeding poor product offering at ridiculously low prices. Now to you and I (read the enthusiast community) we understand that these are craplets and as such do not condemn Android tablets to the depths of hell for being a craplet because it was never intended for that application. However the general populace does not think the same way. They see an "Android tablet" for $100, think awesome, buy the POS and proceed to have a horrible "Android tablet" experience at which time they proceed to tell everyone they know that Android tablets are crap and yadda yadda yadda... And this in turn shapes the general perception which makes it harder and harder for Android to gain acceptance in the tablet space. So in order to gain foothold they developed a version of Android specific for tablets and I would bet good money they never had intentions of releasing HC to AOSP. This is unfortunately the only way that they can control how this OS is used, because they know for a fact if they released it, it would only be a matter of days before you started seeing people trying to put HC on phones, which it was never intended for, or putting it on craplets which results in a significantly substandard experience. So instead you had a decision made to wait until you had convergence in the Android OS again (read ICS) at which point all devices will exist on the same OS, and you can correct the shortcuts that were taken in HC to get a product that works as well as it does given such a short development period.
Bottom line is, we may not agree with the decision, and we certainly by no means have to like the decision, but if you look at the problems objectively it makes sense.

DroidHam said:
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/10/goo...mb-because-they-wanted-to-wait-for-ice-cream/
According to this we wont be seeing any HC source until ICSW is out, so we get no custom roms until Q4?
Am I wrong? Please tell me!
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Guys i think he means being able to run the os before it is actually realeased...i would like this as well

Stating that there's nothing (or very little) to be gained from a custom ROM is pretty absurd.

Psychokitty said:
Stating that there's nothing (or very little) to be gained from a custom ROM is pretty absurd.
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Finally, some sanity in this thread.

Touchwiz 4 UX- Made For Xoom Port

Now this has been asked repeatedly (Just google touchwiz 4 ux) but have we made any progress-no. This thread is a call to ask if any people have heard about a port being assembled, i have by many devs, but there has been no known progress. If anyone knows how to port touchwiz or has started to port touchwiz, could that person please post here. If this post is mis-spoken or unnecessary please delete.

hate to say this being that I love my xoom and after having played with UX I'd love to see it on my tablet but...
we have the wrong tablet atm, dev community is pretty dead. Only one kernel now and one rom.. saddest thing EVER.
There was one kid previously religiously defending the dev community for the xoom saying, why would we need more?!
This kid is clearly, CLEARLY an idiot.

The dev team is pretty good. What holds us back is the lack of sdk. Icecream should change that. Our devs get everything needed for rooters to upgrade withing a day or so of the release, that's not bad. Either way, look at any honeycomb tablet... there aren't many roms or kernels floating around there.
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seven2099 said:
hate to say this being that I love my xoom and after having played with UX I'd love to see it on my tablet but...
we have the wrong tablet atm, dev community is pretty dead. Only one kernel now and one rom.. saddest thing EVER.
There was one kid previously religiously defending the dev community for the xoom saying, why would we need more?!
This kid is clearly, CLEARLY an idiot.
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To make you feel better, roms for other devices are sometimes based on the xoom files from what I can tell and have bugs too.
I'm saving another $600 to buy one of the quad core tabs next year so I'm fine if development doesn't kick off. I thought we would have tons of stuff to flash considering the xoom is the first honeycomb device.

idk if people would like to start a donation to buy some more devs a xoom? We did this in the mt4g forums when the phone was still new to jump start development. I would gladly donate to jump start some more development.

The official update for the 10.1 update is released.
I want touchwiz so bad, it has honeycomb enhancements but heavily integrated into the OS.

Umm... does anyone not understand that nothing like CyanogenMod will be made possible on the Xoom without the Honeycomb source code? The dev teams are not dead... and development has not stopped! But, there is just nowhere else to go from here given the situation due to the lack of the HC SDK.
Duh, there is only one Rom! Currently without the source from HC, the only possible things we can have would be a slightly modified and themed stock Rom experience. The tweaks and tools we all know and love from our phone custom Roms will not be made available until we have the source! And honestly since there is no HC source, I think that porting over something like Touchwiz to the Xoom is also impossible due to the current limitations... meaning it's a part of the OS... no source, no port.
I'm guessing that people don't seem to understand anything about the following terms:
Root, Superuser, ROM, Kernel, ClockworkMod, SDK - I highly suggest that people should really learn these basic and essential terms if they are going to be rooted on any Android device. Learn what they mean, how to make use of them properly, and what makes them special. Then maybe, just maybe... we all might be able to be on the same page. If you don't understand root, chances are that you should probably not be rooted... stick to the factory stock.
I do think that this thread was more than unnecessary. We have established the fact that without the Honeycomb source, nothing major will hit the dev scene as far as entire custom Roms with full tweaks, porting OS's, and such. We established this not long after the Xoom was launched in February. Google announced that they will be holding onto the HC source until further notice. It's been way old news for that long... wow! Why these types of threads keep poping up is puzzling... or maybe alarming... not sure which one.

diablo2224: So you are saying that only Xoom HC source code is missing?
Touchwiz UX has been ported to Iconia A500 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143368) so i don't think that missing HC source code is the problem.
EDIT: A quick search showed that it has been ported to Transformer also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGz-51qUH90

diablo2224 said:
Umm... does anyone not understand that nothing like CyanogenMod will be made possible on the Xoom without the Honeycomb source code? The dev teams are not dead... and development has not stopped! But, there is just nowhere else to go from here given the situation due to the lack of the HC SDK.
Duh, there is only one Rom! Currently without the source from HC, the only possible things we can have would be a slightly modified and themed stock Rom experience. The tweaks and tools we all know and love from our phone custom Roms will not be made available until we have the source! And honestly since there is no HC source, I think that porting over something like Touchwiz to the Xoom is also impossible due to the current limitations... meaning it's a part of the OS... no source, no port.
I'm guessing that people don't seem to understand anything about the following terms:
Root, Superuser, ROM, Kernel, ClockworkMod, SDK - I highly suggest that people should really learn these basic and essential terms if they are going to be rooted on any Android device. Learn what they mean, how to make use of them properly, and what makes them special. Then maybe, just maybe... we all might be able to be on the same page. If you don't understand root, chances are that you should probably not be rooted... stick to the factory stock.
I do think that this thread was more than unnecessary. We have established the fact that without the Honeycomb source, nothing major will hit the dev scene as far as entire custom Roms with full tweaks, porting OS's, and such. We established this not long after the Xoom was launched in February. Google announced that they will be holding onto the HC source until further notice. It's been way old news for that long... wow! Why these types of threads keep poping up is puzzling... or maybe alarming... not sure which one.
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We all know that but it isn't preventing touch wiz from being ported to other honeycomb tablets without the source you say.
Nor do we have "Added PS3 support & alot USB HID devices", I would give anything for my PS3 to see the xoom.

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diablo2224: So you are saying that only Xoom HC source code is missing?
Touchwiz UX has been ported to Iconia A500 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143368) so i don't think that missing HC source code is the problem.
EDIT: A quick search showed that it has been ported to Transformer also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGz-51qUH90
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And this is exactly what I'm talking about... other tabs are way better off.. I came from an Iconia thinking it would be better to be on a Xoom...
Who cares if those ROMs have some bugs.. our roms have bugs too... and all of them get resolved in time.. but when other tablets have way more going for them than the official dev tab, it makes you wonder why this dev community is dead.

The OP is saying that the Xoom is dead and that it has nothing to live for. He also is hinting that the dev teams suck and are not doing anything for the Xoom. Well, to make any progress above and beyond a stock Rom experience you MUST have the source! How can you say the dev teams are dead? They most certainly are not! Again, yes there is only one Rom for a reason... how much more can you possibly do to a stock Rom? Thus, you only need one great team in charge of that. Team Tiamat. That's all you need.
Maybe it can be possible to port TouchWiz over to the Xoom, but listen to this:
The Xoom is meant to be a Google stock experience! If you want this so badly, please go buy a Galaxy Tab and use that. I have no problem with TouchWiz. I love all Android devices. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is tight, and TouchWiz is also tight. I just prefer the Xoom over the other Honeycomb tablets because the devs cook up some awesome stuff since it's the official developers tablet of choice. Plus, I enjoy a full Google experience.
But, honestly here are your options:
Get a Galaxy 10.1 and quit your complaining, or wait for the source to be released when ICS launches. Then you can wait for the dev teams to create some awesome entire complete custom Roms that will probably have custom TouchWiz Roms ported over to all ICS devices. Until then, use the Team Tiamat Rom and theme it up with the TouchWiz theme like I have done with my Xoom. It can be found here: [Theme]TouchWiz for Tiamat 2.1

I am kind of the opposite. Every Android I have owned I couldn't wait for the Devs to strip Sense, Motoblur, etc.

Sully9663 said:
I am kind of the opposite. Every Android I have owned I couldn't wait for the Devs to strip Sense, Motoblur, etc.
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Agreed!
By removing them we can make way for the dev teams to cook up a wonderful list of alternatives with all the tweaks that we desire. The full Google experience is the way to go! With this you can pick and choose what type of setup you want because it is stock vanilla.

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I am kind of the opposite. Every Android I have owned I couldn't wait for the Devs to strip Sense, Motoblur, etc.
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It is pretty funny, 75% of the people that have bloat don't want it. 75% of the people that can't have it want it. I love stock android. I love having a ton of free resources when i start my device. I love having no bloat.

Tiamat and his team are due much respect. After all he released 3.2 for the 3g way ahead of Moto to count just some of what he has done. All with out "source".

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Tiamat and his team are due much respect. After all he release 3.2 for the 3g way ahead of Moto to count just some of what he has done. All with out "source".
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That is impressive that they were able to do this without the HC source. I'm not sure what they did, but it was awesome! It was something that was possible without the source obviously, but some things are not possible without it. Team Tiamat is the boss. The OP must not have a brain to say that the dev teams are stupid and are not making any progress on Honeycomb and the Xoom.

Diablo has a point though as the transformer has an open source code
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Diablo has a point though as the transformer has an open source code
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Thank you!
I'm not trying to be mean or anything, it's just hard to explain certain things, and I wish that some things were easy to explain so that we all know about it. Sorry if I came off a little harsh before. I'm a nice helpful guy who tries to explain things in full detail to get the point across. Hope you understand.

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The Xoom is meant to be a Google stock experience! If you want this so badly, please go buy a Galaxy Tab and use that. I have no problem with TouchWiz. I love all Android devices. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is tight, and TouchWiz is also tight. I just prefer the Xoom over the other Honeycomb tablets because the devs cook up some awesome stuff since it's the official developers tablet of choice. Plus, I enjoy a full Google experience.
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I agree but you shouldnt tell people if they want touchwiz to basically jump ship. like for me half of the fun with android is flashing new roms. like on my phone i have a new rom every few days. and sure i would love to try out touchwiz on my xoom but i still love my xoom and wouldnt switch for a galaxy tab

Can i touch your wiz
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ATRIX forums dead lately

Has anyone else noticed that the ATRIX forums have been extremely dead lately? The development section mostly, nothing new has been coming out and things haven't been being updated in a while. are all the devastating focusing on getting cm7 fully functional or has everyone just disappeared?
Unlocked oc'd alien atrix

I think its most devs are working on cm7, but still satisfied with the development here
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College Football!!!!

Swiftks said:
College Football!!!!
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Great point...GO NOLES!!!!
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No new ROMs for weeks, maybe over a month... webtop2sd project abandoned... aside from the CM7's prebetas and faux's OC, it's like everyone has moved on to brighter shores, like photon or bionic...

It's all over. Dead before it even got started. The developers have abandoned us.
Now we'll never be like one of the more "alive" forums, like the Captivate or the Inspire forums...we'll never have a bunch of the same ROM's that are just themed differently.

TheBassman369 said:
It's all over. Dead before it even got started. The developers have abandoned us.
Now we'll never be like one of the more "alive" forums, like the Captivate or the Inspire forums...we'll never have a bunch of the same ROM's that are just themed differently.
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Maybe I should consider selling my atrix, and wait to see what new phones will released.... lol na I love my atrix
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Not sure what y'all are expecting ... a rom every week?
Cm7 prebeta 3 dropped only a few weeks ago. Summers over soon, schools starting ... plus NO LOCKOUT BABY.
ROMS are gonna blow up when cm7 hits rc
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Love my Atrix (first Android phone), but once the Nexus Prime is released... why wouldn't you jump ship?? "Pure" Google Android experience (no bloat, MOTOBLUR, etc), grantueed "official" CM7 support, and top rated specs to boot... sorry, but I can't wait till October. Guess I can still my ATRIX to test dev builds and help out around here too
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The Atrix has 3 major waves.
The first was unlocking the bootloader, and that opened a whole set of new ROMS and excitement.
The second is for the long awaited CM7, and what it will bring to the table.
The final major wave will be Ice Cream Sandwich. Even if ICS never becomes "official", there will be many ROMS based upon it.
Still plenty of life and goodness coming down the road...
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The days of rapid development for one device are over. Custom ROMs used to add features you couldn't get anywhere else but the gap is closing. Android is becoming a mature OS. Pick your hardware and enjoy.

Swiftks said:
Love my Atrix (first Android phone), but once the Nexus Prime is released... why wouldn't you jump ship?? "Pure" Google Android experience (no bloat, MOTOBLUR, etc), grantueed "official" CM7 support, and top rated specs to boot... sorry, but I can't wait till October. Guess I can still my ATRIX to test dev builds and help out around here too
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i'm sorry.... but that typo really made me cringe for the English languages sake....
And i'm not sure what you mean by "guaranteed "official" CM7 support". Last i checked, the Atrix has "official" CM7 support.... as much as you can call support for a modded ROM "official".

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i'm sorry.... but that typo really made me cringe for the English languages sake....
And i'm not sure what you mean by "guaranteed "official" CM7 support". Last i checked, the Atrix has "official" CM7 support.... as much as you can call support for a modded ROM "official".
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Yeah so much for the spell check; guess I have to get some what close
And by official CM7, I mean a build specifically for the prime, its hardware, etc. form the CM7 team themselves… not to knock the Atrix Dev teams release thus far, which I believe to be a wonderful effort.
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Swiftks said:
Love my Atrix (first Android phone), but once the Nexus Prime is released... why wouldn't you jump ship?? "Pure" Google Android experience (no bloat, MOTOBLUR, etc), grantueed "official" CM7 support, and top rated specs to boot... sorry, but I can't wait till October. Guess I can still my ATRIX to test dev builds and help out around here too
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Er, because I don't want to spend 100s of dollars on something of comparable spec, and I'm v happy with Atrix battery, form factor, screen res and voice quality/speaker quality?
Alien, Aura etc. is pretty much debloated, CM7 or further revisions of above will complete the picture.

They're playing coy but CM has hit its peak. We'll get it here, but beyond this generation of phones I wouldn't expect much.

CM can't really "hit their peak" as the very base they use for their releases, is virtually a constant beta test(...android). That being said, I don't see any reason why CM can peak, when new features are and will continue to be pushed into Android daily. Honeycomb was mainly a release to make Android viable to tablets, so in the phone scene, CM skipped a gen as there are no phones(to my knowledge) that run Android 3.0. The CM team can't hit their peak until Google hits their peak.
With that being said, it's true that the forums are quiet lately, but aside from a few very difficult features, we don't really have any gripes, do we? CM is the end of any androids open development in my opinion anyway, after that...the only next best thing is...a higher version CM.

I think everyone is just itching for something to flash.
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I simply mean their relevance has already crested. CM breathed new life into old hardware and extra features onto others to build their reputation but it seems Google and OEMs gave begun integrating many of CMs differentiatiors. Eventually it just can't have the impact it used to. That doesn't make it irrelevant, just less of a prime factor in purchasing decisions.
Don't get me wrong, I've been a CM faithful since before the Droid blew up Android.. but the reasons listed above combined with the extra projects they are all getting into seem to form an obvious case for lowered expectations.

darkamikaze said:
I think everyone is just itching for something to flash.
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Lol I know I am
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There is though. CM is Android without the manufacturers mess of a launcher. Google has definitely integrated lots of CM's contributions to Android, but those can be pretty hard to see if the launcher in question is a big piece of crap..like Motoblur.
Honestly, I find it hard to see why people are upset with things in their current form. Motorola is going to be adding Webtop into all of it's higher end handsets, and webtop is pretty awesome. It's functions like that, that make it worth jumping from a bustling community like the Captivate, to the dead Atrix community, like I did. I don't miss my Captivate at all. I just miss Cyanogenmod.

I have to ask... Why is everyone foaming at the mouth for an ICS update?

What is all the hype about ICS? What can it do that honeycomb or what one of you rediculously talented developers haven't already figured out how to do on your own? Just curious...
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I have been running ICS on my NS4G since the SDK ports were available. Honeycomb is a good tablet OS. If ICS is half as good on my tablet as it is on my phone, then it will surpass HC easily...
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To be a bit more specific:
- faster
- better graphics performance
- less battery drain
- full USB HID support
- (some might consider this a bug) biometric unlocking
- tons of improvements under the hood
- (for devs) full source available
And probably a lot of stuff I didn't think of while writing this post...

FireMedicDave said:
What is all the hype about ICS? What can it do that honeycomb or what one of you rediculously talented developers haven't already figured out how to do on your own?
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Increased performance.

Because Other People have it
I want it on my tablet because everyone else does..
Have to try to fit in here or you are left out of all the fun and games.. Does Microsoft make ICS.. Can i put it on my Notebook .Will it work on my TV.
giggles..
ACTUALLY BOTH POST ABOVE ARE CORRECT .. It has better hardware acceleration support for UI AND VIDEO PERFORMANCE..Better memory management. That will increase battery life.. Not to mention Because it has a cute MASCOT ..
Its everything honeycomb was supposed to be .
OOPS I FORGOT.. ITS ALL BECAUSE MY MOMMY TOLD ME NOT TO DO IT.. Never fallow moms instructions...

Been running it on my nexus and tablet and for the tablet the difference on home screen scrolling is night and day. Rarely does it lag when switching between homescreens. Which I believe is very important due the amazing Widgets android app devlipers have made. Having all this info present and sliding from a twitter widget over to news 360 is like butter
Most of here are probably foaming at the mouth for the update is for the source and kernel ace has to supply so our great devs can optimize and add ntfs support, and other goodies.

faster, better multi tasking abilitys, the UI its self is very sexy, and its the new os who dosent want the newest os?

Who doesn't want different dessert? Ice Cream Sandwich is tastier than Gingerbread ;-)

Great answers everyone. Thanks. I'm all about faster and sexier. I'm pretty stoked for it too! Does anyone know when we are getting it? HAHA JUST KIDDING
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Battery life on my A500 has doubled since installing the ICS ROM. Everything is more responsive, browsing is remarkably faster... HC gave Android tabs a bad name (and a good laugh for fanbois); ICS makes Android on tabs a serious contender to knock the fruit off of the tree.
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It will also streamline app development considering it will be One OS to deal, basically google seems to be taking Apple's look on development and trying to keep all devices equal when it comes to the OS. At least that's my assumption on that but yea regardless it should streamline app development.

malickie said:
It will also streamline app development considering it will be One OS to deal, basically google seems to be taking Apple's look on development and trying to keep all devices equal when it comes to the OS. At least that's my assumption on that but yea regardless it should streamline app development.
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That's the first and main reason-compatibility, less fragmentation. Developers would no longer have to create separate versions of their apps. Unfortunately not all current devices would get ICS update so fragmentation will still be an issue. Microsoft has taken the same path with Windows 8. "Any similarities to other companies are just a coincidence "

FireMedicDave said:
Great answers everyone. Thanks. I'm all about faster and sexier. I'm pretty stoked for it too! Does anyone know when we are getting it? HAHA JUST KIDDING
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it will come the 6th Tuesday in the 13th month of the years 3012.
at 14:76 am.. The same day that my ancestors from another universe will arrive to take myself and my family to Our new home..
Erica is never EVER WRONG.. IF You do not belive me just ask .. i will tell you.

erica_renee said:
it will come the 6th Tuesday in the 13th month of the years 3012.
at 14:76 am.. The same day that my ancestors from another universe will arrive to take myself and my family to Our new home..
Erica is never EVER WRONG.. IF You do not belive me just ask .. i will tell you.
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lol, that way you make me want to throw my tab of the window..
haha you're so funny

yuril7 said:
lol, that way you make me want to throw my tab of the window..
haha you're so funny
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Nope just msg mefor shipping information

ghoernersr said:
Battery life on my A500 has doubled since installing the ICS ROM. Everything is more responsive, browsing is remarkably faster... HC gave Android tabs a bad name (and a good laugh for fanbois); ICS makes Android on tabs a serious contender to knock the fruit off of the tree.
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You running Thor ics?
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erica_renee said:
it will come the 6th Tuesday in the 13th month of the years 3012.
at 14:76 am.. The same day that my ancestors from another universe will arrive to take myself and my family to Our new home..
Erica is never EVER WRONG.. IF You do not belive me just ask .. i will tell you.
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That's crazy!!! That's my birthday! What a coincidence...

I have also been using Thor's ROM for a few days. So much smoother compared to 3.2 and yes I would agree the battery life is much better.

This represents the proverbial end of fragmentation. Developers will have one core to work with and the uis from providers will new overlays and not integrated.
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garbagecanman said:
You running Thor ics?
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I am running v94 since the audio out is better and it's awesome aside from the camera not working