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At 1.5ghz im still really happy with the desire z's performance. I manly use the device for web browsing so naturally I am excited to see ICS using gpu accelleration for web browsing. I think using opera mobile is pretty awesome, but can anyone speculate whether we will see gpu accelleration for our devices when we get ICS?
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All Android-powered devices running Android 4.0 are required to support hardware-accelerated 2D drawing. Developers can take advantage of this to add great UI effects while maintaining optimal performance on high-resolution screens, even on phones. For example, developers can rely on accelerated scaling, rotation, and other 2D operations, as well as accelerated UI components such as TextureView and compositing modes such as filtering, blending, and opacity.
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So it sounds like whether or not an application will take advantage of it depends on the developer implementing it in their app.
Thanks for that, hopefully with the great devs for the desire z we will achieve this
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The Vision does have a hardware GPU so we should get this nice new feature wtih ICS. I presume the stock launcher, browser etc in ICS will already have the necessary software support.
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There's no denying that as it stands the SG2 is the fastest android smartphone out now. I don't own one but based on what i'm hearing its crazy fast. My question is with its speed would it benefit from the hardware acceleration that comes with ICS?? Does the UI in this phone running as smooth as an iphone or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without hardware acceleration? Or despite its speed does it occasionally still stutter in between screens from time to time or jumping in between apps??
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There's no denying that as it stands the SG2 is the fastest android smartphone out now. I don't own one but based on what i'm hearing its crazy fast. My question is with its speed would it benefit from the hardware acceleration that comes with ICS?? Does the UI in this phone running as smooth as an iphone or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without hardware acceleration? Or despite its speed does it occasionally still stutter in between screens from time to time or jumping in between apps??
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I think its just the browser that is using hwa right now, if its using hwa in UI on ICS it would really make a difference. Maybe not in the time it takes for stuff to happen but overall smoothness, wich imo is not there yet
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Hmm....that's slightly disappointing. I was hoping this phone would be just as smooth out the box based on what everyone is saying about its speed.....well thank God for ICS, cuz the stuttery UI is the androids OS main Achilles heel....we'll see what happens
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Well - it isn't really the "stuttering" people hate about android. Others think it isn't polished like IOS. Not to mention since it's so new - there isn't a lot of "good" apps for it.
With ICS - it'll take use of the graphic processor for the UI so that the primary dual core processor can focus on the tasks. In gingerbread, the processor is doing everything / and the graphic is only doing games. =/
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In gingerbread, the processor is doing everything / and the graphic is only doing games. =/
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You forgot HW accelerated video playback and internet browser ;-) Also, you can always download and use stock Gingerbread launcher, which uses HW acceleration too, AFAIK.
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Well,as long as you don't underclock the device it's buttery smooth.To avoid confusion,Samsung's TouchWiz is hardware accelerated and it's as smooth as the iPhone etc.But even with alternative launchers it's really really smooth.I hate even the slightest hints of lag/stuttering and get annoyed very easily.With the S2 I haven't been annoyed for a long long time(well,sometimes things go wrong when you mess with the device just too much ).
Gingerbread offers HWA, browser, video processing, touchwiz 4.0 to name a few.
However, ICS is 'supposed' to take HWA one step further and fully optimize our high specs - mainly our GPU.
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Well,as long as you don't underclock the device it's buttery smooth.To avoid confusion,Samsung's TouchWiz is hardware accelerated and it's as smooth as the iPhone etc.But even with alternative launchers it's really really smooth.I hate even the slightest hints of lag/stuttering and get annoyed very easily.With the S2 I haven't been annoyed for a long long time(well,sometimes things go wrong when you mess with the device just too much ).
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Touchwiz 4.0 is hardware accelerated?? Wow, that's awesome!! I guess I'm trying to wonder why isn't or wasn't hardware acceleration implemented in the android os long ago???
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Touchwiz 4.0 is hardware accelerated?? Wow, that's awesome!! I guess I'm trying to wonder why isn't or wasn't hardware acceleration implemented in the android os long ago???
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Its up to the manufacturers to add this in. HTC has done it with sense 3 as well.
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Its up to the manufacturers to add this in. HTC has done it with sense 3 as well.
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Htc have hardware accelerated sense 3.0? it's laggy as hell.
Google devs simply didn't deem it necessary, also because not all of the android devices had a decent gpu at the beginning, but obviously all of them had a cpu. They told devs not to do garbage collection regarding this issue, which is imho a very weak strategy. Good that they changed their mind with ICS at least: better late than never, but ofc never late would be better
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Htc have hardware accelerated sense 3.0? it's laggy as hell.
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Sense 3 is smooth as butter animation wise. Its bloated that makes it laggy.
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Sense 3 is smooth as butter animation wise. Its bloated that makes it laggy.
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Browser also hwa?
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Nope.
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Lol Sense is a piece of ****
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Lol Sense is a piece of ****
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Not ! Touchwiz is crap sense is awesome and it doesn't lag either sense 3.5 SON
MyTouch HD (Black)
Kernel demonspeed v7
lagfree 1516Ghz - 768Mhz
Edited Build Prop
Beats Audio
Gingerbread 2.3.5
Dark Side Sense 3.3 !
I own both HTC Sensation and Galaxy S2, I put Android Revolution ROM on the sensation and its smooth and fast, even when I downclock it to 800mhz.
I think by default Hardware Acceleration is not enabled for sense 3.0, the rom fixed that and to be fair.. I really like the sense interface and in terms of software, HTC is really ahead and offers better execution than Samsung.
Speed wise, the galaxy s2 is much much faster even when down clocked to 800mhz, I'm on VillianROM 3.0 and everyhing is flying.... I never liked the stock browser, my browser choice is Dolphin Browser MINI cos its fast and no lag and it can download from multiupload sites
I much prefer Sense over TW, it's a very polished ui, while instead TW is a complete mess: the colors are put together randomly and the overall feeling is that it's much less refined and elegant. TW looks like something designed for kids, while instead Sense has more of a business look, which i like much better. What actually stopped me from getting the Sensation is the fact that it actually performs much worse compared to the GS2, and lacks internal memory. I also got used to AMOLED screens so now i don't wanna go back to LCD because it feels like downgrading. But hey, this is kinda ot
Touchwiz 4.0 is awesome.
All videos of sense ive seen are laggy crap.
TW4 adds some nice features, simple to use and is hardware accellerated - just what i want from a launcher.
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Is the world aware how good ics is is and how well it runs on the nexus s. Is even the android community aware. This phone needs a new review just because of pics. Probably not but man I got this phone for 100 dollars off Craigslist and man is this a hidden gem. This is the perfect phone for most people.
Man I wish my epic touch had pure ics on it right now.
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Patience grasshopper. We will get our ICS on the ET4G soon enough
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Is the world aware how good ics is is and how well it runs on the nexus s. Is even the android community aware. This phone needs a new review just because of pics. Probably not but man I got this phone for 100 dollars off Craigslist and man is this a hidden gem. This is the perfect phone for most people.
Man I wish my epic touch had pure ics on it right now.
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I agree, this phone was nice with GB but with ICS this machine is amazing. The best part about it is that this is only the begining
Hopefully thismeans we will be the fixed icsics
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I'm quite curious though, is the new smoothness due to the forced gpu rendering? Is anyone runnning stock ICS but without 'forced gpu rendering' checked in dev settings that can give some feedback on its smoothness? I do know that scrolling anywhere now is much smoother compared to GB, almost as if animations were running in a priority thread like they do in fruit phones.
I leave hardware accel off and it is still exceptionally smooth, though not AS much with the stock kernel. Cannot notice much difference between the two with GLaDOS.
I'm pretty much in agreement with the thread starter. The ICS upgrade is amazing. Very smooth and fast. Everything seems so much better just as any upgrade should be. And also the new UI and graphics are great.
Its funny reading everywhere now about just about every handset waiting and or crying for ICS update. Most won't see it till the second half of next year.
I love my nexus even more than ever.
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also I'm running stock ICS rom with stock kernel...the kernel has been slightly modified for voodoo support.
Getting great battery life too. Thankfully none of the infamous 'android OS bug' so far.
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Agreed, ics kicks a$$.
A few things that could have been included that weren't, lucky for us those there's the nova launcher that's shaping up really nice and adds what ics should have had in the first place.
I'm running my phone on background process limit of x3 and no gpu redering with nova launcher and it's amazingly fast and smooth with no lag whatsoever, even when entering the app drawer.
As it's been said, things will only get better and I also think the Nexus S needs new reviews doing on it.
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also I'm running stock ICS rom with stock kernel...the kernel has been slightly modified for voodoo support.
Getting great battery life too. Thankfully none of the infamous 'android OS bug' so far.
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What kernel are you using? Thanks
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also I'm running stock ICS rom with stock kernel...the kernel has been slightly modified for voodoo support.
Getting great battery life too. Thankfully none of the infamous 'android OS bug' so far.
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What kernel are u using exactly? I have a very bad battery life + random reboots
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What kernel are u using exactly? I have a very bad battery life + random reboots
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Ive been using the stock ICS kernel modified for voodoo support. Its in the stock ICS kernel thread started by eugene373 in the nexus s development forums.
I made sure to wipe cache and the dalvik cache before installation. Im at 17 hours now with battery still at 32 percent with almost 2 hours screen on.
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It blows my mind to think of what will happen in the next six months with this phone. I have a feeling the nexus might go back into production if it keeps getting better.
It kills me my girlfriend has no idea what she is using.
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It really is. I love my NS even more with ICS, altough my experience with it in Gingerbread has only been about 2 weeks. Previously I was using Gingerbread (CM7) in a ZTE Blade and, as an interaction experience (regarding solely the OS), ICS beats it to a pulp. Now it's a waiting game until all the quirks are solved
has anyone tried the microbes live wallpaper. Im using stock ICS, stock kernel, non-rooted and it is just laggy as hell. Rest of the phone is ok, but i wouldnt call it buttery smooth
The microbes live wallpaper is definitely more hardware intensive than most of the others. It would likely be -slightly- better with a different kernel, but i can't see the Nexus S being powerful enough to breeze through it.
Live wallpapers for me use too much battery for too little eyecandy, though to each their own.
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The microbes live wallpaper is definitely more hardware intensive than most of the others. It would likely be -slightly- better with a different kernel, but i can't see the Nexus S being powerful enough to breeze through it.
Live wallpapers for me use too much battery for too little eyecandy, though to each their own.
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At first I thought so too, but now I'm not so sure. It wasn't this bad in gjngerbread albeit 2.3 seemed a lot lighter and less ram intensive than ics. Also I ran the microbes lwp on my old g2 and it ran a lot better than my nexus s. I think its more of a software issue but I'm no dev.
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The only thing killing me is the lack of RAM. I really wished that Google went with 768+ MB.
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The only thing killing me is the lack of RAM. I really wished that Google went with 768+ MB.
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They did...in the Galaxy Nexus.
- chris
praveenmarkandu said:
has anyone tried the microbes live wallpaper. Im using stock ICS, stock kernel, non-rooted and it is just laggy as hell. Rest of the phone is ok, but i wouldnt call it buttery smooth
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Im got microbes swimmin around, no issues at all. stock ICS, stock kernel, rooted.
it shows its only using 3.7MB
ICS roms and updates seem to be constantly released. I've not tested one since the very first release. But now there's ~5 different releases. If anyone has tried them all, is there one that's particularly stable or good enough for a DD?
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None are FULLY functional yet, but you can try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428866
So far the Camera doesn't work among other things, but I think it's a good place to start to have a feel of what ICS would feel like on our phones
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ICS roms and updates seem to be constantly released. I've not tested one since the very first release. But now there's ~5 different releases. If anyone has tried them all, is there one that's particularly stable or good enough for a DD?
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CM9!! when it comes it will be awesome!!.........if it ever comes lol
I would have to say Quattro. Its too smooth I ran it for about two days but I was missing FM radio. I would suggest give it a spin.
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Hands down, Quattro
For me, none of the available ICS ROMs.
I appreciate the great effort of all the devs but having a dd without a working camera is not an option.
I gave Andromadus beta 8 a go last night. Got to admit, I'm not liking the new look. My problem is just with the recent apps list. on gb, i use it constantly as it holds all the apps i ever use so i never have to go searching through the app list. But the new version is a lot of effort having to scroll and manage apps. Plus the app listis annoying itself having to swipe horizontally. i assume I'd need to change launchers for that. Oh well, back to gb it is.
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Hey man I have tried all the roms at the moment and my vote goes to andromadus alpha 8
Its stable fast and it doesn't have those random app glitches that virtuos quattro has
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+1 for quattro
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Tried Both Andromadus and Quattro and have to say that Quattro feels better so far.
Have tried the Virtous Quattro beta, and its really great looking at this stage. A shame the camera is so hard to get working. Except from the missing camera, this ROM can IMO easily be used for everyday use at the current stage.
+1 for Quattro....Beta 3 is rockin....
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Slight edge to Quattro! To get rid of graphical glitches:
Turn off auto rotate
Disable ALL animation
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Can someone tell me how to turn on my back lighting please.
Oh, and also have this major graphical glitch.
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Can someone tell me how to turn on my back lighting please.
Oh, and also have this major graphical glitch.
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I'm guessing that you are referring to the keyboard back lights, these currently only work when you have automatic brightness enabled.
I have the same graphical glitches occasionally, a temporary fix is to manually stop the launcher in system settings.
None of them. Honestly it's frustrating for us users when the updates are once every 2 days, and we have to deal with constant reflashing of roms + all the random errors that will occur.
Just be patient and wait for CM9.
I tried Quattro and there were graphical glitches among other things.
ILWT, anyone?
I tried andromadus an quattro. But none has a well performance and all drained to much battery. On my Opinion you should wait for a final release, not trying all these alpha-beta version
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My opinion. Try them just to get the feel of them and have fun playing with it. And yeah, battery life blows
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I have tried several ICS roms over the last few weeks. LOADS of updates and alpha/beta. Basically I've been enjoying seeing the dev's work develop. I've tried
Taz's desire z port
Andromadus
Flemmard's original betas which became part of virtuous quattro
I've not tried every revision of these but almost!
With all I have been going back to my highly tuned very stable virtuous affinity DD but I am now on Quattro genuinely as a DD. It is very smooth and stable. With beta 6 I am struggling to recreate the graphical glitches that have been an issue. The features being added are all useful and add something to the rom. Overall very impressed.
Obviously no camera yet and yep almost daily updates is to be expected with betas but that's part of the fun!
Interesting to see what the virtuous team do to distinguish their rom if/when CM9 is released on vision. Unity/Affinity had a substantial userbase due to their super slick/smooth 'almost stock to look at' sense based roms. I don't envisage htc releasing a sense ics for vision so they will have to produce something virtuous from a pure android ics - looking forward to it.
Currently using Virtuous Quattro as my DD. Running quite well for me.
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Hey just wondering, when htc release jelly bean for the one x, would it be possible to make a sense 4 custom ROM for the nexus 7 somehow, seeing as they have similar processors, ram and their screen resolution s are not that different?
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You want a manufacturer skin over stock?!
Every android device I have ever owned, someone has always wanted a sense ROM. I just don't get it. Sense is a battery and performance nightmare from my experience. Of the two HTC devices that I have owned, the FIRST thing I did on each is install a non-sense ROM.
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I hate Sense with a passion, I don't know why you would want it... everyone has different tastes, I guess
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Hey just wondering, when htc release jelly bean for the one x, would it be possible to make a sense 4 custom ROM for the nexus 7 somehow, seeing as they have similar processors, ram and their screen resolution s are not that different?
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I love sense, but it probably isn't possible.
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Sense on the Nexus 7 would be awesome. I know it can be a battery/cpu hog or whatever but seriously, I'm pretty sure the Nexus 7 could hardware could handle it. Sense has so many nice features that I miss. The UI is gorgeous (subjective, I know), the included widgets are fantastic especially the clock, and small things like the fact that navigation is linked to calendar events so you can just bring up an event in your calendar and then click on the location and it will take you there.
Edit: nearly forgot to mention the great music player, and the latest keyboard is main thing I miss.
Have no idea if it would be possible, but I would LOVE to see a sense rom for the nexus. What about a ported Flyer rom? I have no idea about development though so forgive me if it would be impossible.
I like sense
But the screen is a different resolution which will make it harder
Also things will look really really big
Best shot at a port will be if HTC release a tablet with sense and the same resolution as ours, along with a tegra
Also the flyer is a lower resolution
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markj338 said:
I like sense
But the screen is a different resolution which will make it harder
Also things will look really really big
Best shot at a port will be if HTC release a tablet with sense and the same resolution as ours, along with a tegra
Also the flyer is a lower resolution
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The resolution is basically the name as the one x is it not? Also, the hardware is pretty similar, tegra included. I don't think it would be that difficult to get a one x ROM going on the nexus? I wish I could do it myself!
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Well sense 4 looks and feels great in my opinion. ( yeah it would be worse probably ) but it is pretty cool!
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You can download Sense Themes and launchers and pretty much be set. Their 3rd party apps are buggy at best. My coworker constantly has problems with his HTC dialer and email apps.
Sense pretty much is just a launcher with special Widgets... and a couple of custom apps.
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What launcher does the sense 4 effect?
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None can match Sense 3.x or 4 in overall cohesiveness and polish. All the clock widgets that try and copy the sense clock are subpar imitations. You can try to give your phone the sense look but it will never be as nice. I challenge anyone to screenshot their phone/tablet to prove that it can be done!
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Hi,
Sorry to revive this post, but I just got my Nexus 7 and the first thing I miss so much is the Sense UI of my HTC One X ...
I buy HTC since the TyTN, and had the Touch HD, HD2, Sensation XE and now One X. Sense came with the Touch HD, and one main reason I keep buying HTC is the Sense layer (over their phone design that I still find better than other brands).
I never had issues so far with Sense since 4 years of using Sense on all these phones ...
I wonder if the Sense launcher can be output of an HTC Rom as an APK to install on other devices ?
While it may be possible to get sense working on a Nexus 7, it would be a ridiculous amount of work. I understand the request though as I used to love Sense. These days it's more like an ex girlfriend. I have fond memories of it but would never consider going back to it.
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LOL, I love your comparison with "ex-girlfriend"
Anyway, I'll try to live differently with the Nexus 7 ... Hope I'll find a nive widget for time/date/weather ...
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These days it's more like an ex girlfriend. I have fond memories of it but would never consider going back to it.
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Great line right here LOL!
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