At 1.5ghz im still really happy with the desire z's performance. I manly use the device for web browsing so naturally I am excited to see ICS using gpu accelleration for web browsing. I think using opera mobile is pretty awesome, but can anyone speculate whether we will see gpu accelleration for our devices when we get ICS?
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From the Android SDK site
All Android-powered devices running Android 4.0 are required to support hardware-accelerated 2D drawing. Developers can take advantage of this to add great UI effects while maintaining optimal performance on high-resolution screens, even on phones. For example, developers can rely on accelerated scaling, rotation, and other 2D operations, as well as accelerated UI components such as TextureView and compositing modes such as filtering, blending, and opacity.
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So it sounds like whether or not an application will take advantage of it depends on the developer implementing it in their app.
Thanks for that, hopefully with the great devs for the desire z we will achieve this
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The Vision does have a hardware GPU so we should get this nice new feature wtih ICS. I presume the stock launcher, browser etc in ICS will already have the necessary software support.
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Guys what is a aosp rom.. Like whats special about it and hows it differ from a regular rom?
a rom built from the android opensource project (http://source.android.com/). it's what people call 'vanilla' or pure android.
how is it special? its not, really. it's just free of carrier bloat and manufacturer skins which some people prefer.
Does it offer any performance improvements? Like hardware acceleration for example. And also most roms on here are free of.manufactire bloat.
no improvements, it's the same os (for example, 2.2.1 aosp is the same 2.2.1 on the sgs4g, just without tw and carrier bloat). basically, manufacturers take the aosp code and then build their skins/software on top of them, so an aosp rom may run faster, but that's because it's running less code (it's not running sense, blur, tw, etc. on top of the android os), but that also depends on how the manufacturer code is integrated with the os.
Ive heard some people say it could be the opposite too. Some of the manufacturers ui enhances the specific hardware for each phone.
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dardani89 said:
Ive heard some people say it could be the opposite too. Some of the manufacturers ui enhances the specific hardware for each phone.
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Like TouchWiz. It's completely built for the hardware in the Galaxy S, so it does speed up the Hummingbird, but nowhere near the optimizations that Gingerbread gives us.
Plus it gives some cool features. Like fonts and a better camera and music player.
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Aosp (android open source project) has no shell (software by manufacturers or carrier) so what you get is the pure Android operating system.
Some like it some don't it is ok what is nice about it is if you are rooted (which you most likely are) you can add back just the apps you want so there is no extra bloat on the phone.
interesting!
okay i tried cm7 but i notice that it doesnt have hardware acceleration on the browser like simply honey 3.6 and or 2.2.1 roms like biwinning? So i guess the browser is not optimised for hummingbird on aosp???
It is but the browser on bi winning is touchwiz and Samsung had hardware acceleration on that
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Also TouchWiz has codecs installed for playing back 720p mkvs and xvid/divx files natively. It uses less battery cause its using the gpu in our phone instead of the cpu (uses more battery) which some apps on the Market do.
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then why is cm7 so popular? i really dont get it, just because its a aosp rom??
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then why is cm7 so popular? i really dont get it, just because its a aosp rom??
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Yeah plus you can customize the hell out of it. It also usually has great battery on stable releases.
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ohhh, coooll.....
Been waiting on an update for a while now!
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Nightlies?
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Ice cream sandwich around the corner?
FAR from it
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And kernel.org down for maintenance hasn't helped a bit
Isn't it going to be the only option if you want ICS as htc won't be allowed to put their sense overlay on it anyway? At least for a year that is.
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HTC wasn't allowed to put Sense on WP7. Still, they have their Market section full with HTC Apps.
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HTC wasn't allowed to put Sense on WP7. Still, they have their Market section full with HTC Apps.
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Isn't wp7 a whole different scenario though? I mean there aren't any custom UI's from manufacturers. Which is totally different to android at the moment.
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Isn't wp7 a whole different scenario though? I mean there aren't any custom UI's from manufacturers. Which is totally different to android at the moment.
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Depends on the Point of View. On the matter of UI, is WP7 different to Android (general)? Hell yes it is. WP7 is, like iphone, much more closed (we're talking UI here, not in general).
Now, is WP7 that much different to ICS? Nope... it isn't
Still... as with WP7 (and i've tried it), HTC, Samsung, LG, and many others will provide their palette of software. Exclusive software.
Examples on WP7
HTC:
HTC Hub
Flashlight
Photo Enhancer
HTC Youtube
Notes
Attentive Phone
Locations
Converter
Stock
Connected Media
Lists
Calculator
Dock Mode
Love
Samsung:
Rubik's Cube
Photo Studio
Photogram
MiniDiary
FunShot
AllShare
Network Profile
PhotoSharing
RSS Times
Mobile Print
LGE:
SmartShare
Weather & Clock
Panorama Shot
Tool Box
QR Reader
Voice to Text
Photo Stylist
ScanSearch
PostNote
Not a UI, but still a nice addition to the tiny WP7 Marketplace
Recently read that GPU hardware acceleration is only available on ICS (WTF). Has there been any custom UI developed (HTC Sense? Samsung Touchwiz? SPB Shell?) that enables hardware acceleration of the UI that will work on Gingerbread?
Don't think so
As I recall Hardware Acceleration is on GB. If it's boasted on ICS, it's just probably building on what GB already does. GPU Acceleration is definitely there on GB Builds, its very easy to see for someone who is use to seeing stock EC05 for so long, and then checks GB out.
I believe u can set it in build.prop...
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Just about the only gpu acceleration I see in gb is the buttery smooth pulldown notification bar.
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The framerare in launcher pro is definitely higher on gingerbread than froyo. Not to mention that one of the reasons battery is improved on 2.3 is sure to the gpu offloading for the gui. I think ICS is just accelerating more elements of the OS.
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There's no denying that as it stands the SG2 is the fastest android smartphone out now. I don't own one but based on what i'm hearing its crazy fast. My question is with its speed would it benefit from the hardware acceleration that comes with ICS?? Does the UI in this phone running as smooth as an iphone or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without hardware acceleration? Or despite its speed does it occasionally still stutter in between screens from time to time or jumping in between apps??
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There's no denying that as it stands the SG2 is the fastest android smartphone out now. I don't own one but based on what i'm hearing its crazy fast. My question is with its speed would it benefit from the hardware acceleration that comes with ICS?? Does the UI in this phone running as smooth as an iphone or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without hardware acceleration? Or despite its speed does it occasionally still stutter in between screens from time to time or jumping in between apps??
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I think its just the browser that is using hwa right now, if its using hwa in UI on ICS it would really make a difference. Maybe not in the time it takes for stuff to happen but overall smoothness, wich imo is not there yet
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Hmm....that's slightly disappointing. I was hoping this phone would be just as smooth out the box based on what everyone is saying about its speed.....well thank God for ICS, cuz the stuttery UI is the androids OS main Achilles heel....we'll see what happens
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Well - it isn't really the "stuttering" people hate about android. Others think it isn't polished like IOS. Not to mention since it's so new - there isn't a lot of "good" apps for it.
With ICS - it'll take use of the graphic processor for the UI so that the primary dual core processor can focus on the tasks. In gingerbread, the processor is doing everything / and the graphic is only doing games. =/
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In gingerbread, the processor is doing everything / and the graphic is only doing games. =/
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You forgot HW accelerated video playback and internet browser ;-) Also, you can always download and use stock Gingerbread launcher, which uses HW acceleration too, AFAIK.
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Well,as long as you don't underclock the device it's buttery smooth.To avoid confusion,Samsung's TouchWiz is hardware accelerated and it's as smooth as the iPhone etc.But even with alternative launchers it's really really smooth.I hate even the slightest hints of lag/stuttering and get annoyed very easily.With the S2 I haven't been annoyed for a long long time(well,sometimes things go wrong when you mess with the device just too much ).
Gingerbread offers HWA, browser, video processing, touchwiz 4.0 to name a few.
However, ICS is 'supposed' to take HWA one step further and fully optimize our high specs - mainly our GPU.
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Well,as long as you don't underclock the device it's buttery smooth.To avoid confusion,Samsung's TouchWiz is hardware accelerated and it's as smooth as the iPhone etc.But even with alternative launchers it's really really smooth.I hate even the slightest hints of lag/stuttering and get annoyed very easily.With the S2 I haven't been annoyed for a long long time(well,sometimes things go wrong when you mess with the device just too much ).
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Touchwiz 4.0 is hardware accelerated?? Wow, that's awesome!! I guess I'm trying to wonder why isn't or wasn't hardware acceleration implemented in the android os long ago???
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Touchwiz 4.0 is hardware accelerated?? Wow, that's awesome!! I guess I'm trying to wonder why isn't or wasn't hardware acceleration implemented in the android os long ago???
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Its up to the manufacturers to add this in. HTC has done it with sense 3 as well.
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Its up to the manufacturers to add this in. HTC has done it with sense 3 as well.
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Htc have hardware accelerated sense 3.0? it's laggy as hell.
Google devs simply didn't deem it necessary, also because not all of the android devices had a decent gpu at the beginning, but obviously all of them had a cpu. They told devs not to do garbage collection regarding this issue, which is imho a very weak strategy. Good that they changed their mind with ICS at least: better late than never, but ofc never late would be better
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Htc have hardware accelerated sense 3.0? it's laggy as hell.
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Sense 3 is smooth as butter animation wise. Its bloated that makes it laggy.
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Sense 3 is smooth as butter animation wise. Its bloated that makes it laggy.
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Browser also hwa?
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Nope.
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Lol Sense is a piece of ****
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Lol Sense is a piece of ****
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Not ! Touchwiz is crap sense is awesome and it doesn't lag either sense 3.5 SON
MyTouch HD (Black)
Kernel demonspeed v7
lagfree 1516Ghz - 768Mhz
Edited Build Prop
Beats Audio
Gingerbread 2.3.5
Dark Side Sense 3.3 !
I own both HTC Sensation and Galaxy S2, I put Android Revolution ROM on the sensation and its smooth and fast, even when I downclock it to 800mhz.
I think by default Hardware Acceleration is not enabled for sense 3.0, the rom fixed that and to be fair.. I really like the sense interface and in terms of software, HTC is really ahead and offers better execution than Samsung.
Speed wise, the galaxy s2 is much much faster even when down clocked to 800mhz, I'm on VillianROM 3.0 and everyhing is flying.... I never liked the stock browser, my browser choice is Dolphin Browser MINI cos its fast and no lag and it can download from multiupload sites
I much prefer Sense over TW, it's a very polished ui, while instead TW is a complete mess: the colors are put together randomly and the overall feeling is that it's much less refined and elegant. TW looks like something designed for kids, while instead Sense has more of a business look, which i like much better. What actually stopped me from getting the Sensation is the fact that it actually performs much worse compared to the GS2, and lacks internal memory. I also got used to AMOLED screens so now i don't wanna go back to LCD because it feels like downgrading. But hey, this is kinda ot
Touchwiz 4.0 is awesome.
All videos of sense ive seen are laggy crap.
TW4 adds some nice features, simple to use and is hardware accellerated - just what i want from a launcher.
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from the images and hands on video, i can see the UI, which is smooth and great.. Hope to be ported to Desire HD. Hey ! check out the screen shots of Contacts, Recent apps, Camera and Conversation.. Those are promising that canonical Ubuntu best. .
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from the images and hands on video, i can see the UI, which is smooth and great.. Hope to be ported to Desire HD. Hey ! check out the screen shots of Contacts, Recent apps, Camera and Conversation.. Those are promising that canonical Ubuntu best. .
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Yeah in the official video its very smooth, but if you watch other hands ons from the verge or Engadget you will notice it isn't as smooth. But it isn't finished and in an early stage, what means there is a lot space for improvement.
Because the core apps like home, phone, gallery etc are native and not in Java like in Android I think it will be very smooth but we will have to wait until it is released.
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it was smooth as butter when i played with it at CES. It's still an alpha build anyway, so expect more.
They better make it GPU rendered.
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They better make it GPU rendered.
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I would imagine since they are targeting low end devices and high end devices, it'll probably support bot like Unity 3d and Unity 2d.
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