As many people have used the ookla speed test to see their network speed on their nexus 4s, I've seen a lot of screenshots (and my own phone) that shows the speed test app resized to a little box, like so
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I initially thought it was because of the high resolution screen, but when I saw some speed tests on the galaxy nexus (which has the same resolution apart from the pixel width, both still 720p), it left me confused.
As you can see both Galaxy Nexii have the ookla speed test app taking up the entire screen aside from the software buttons.
Any explanation?
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the app needs to be updated for dpi purposes.
zephiK said:
the app needs to be updated for dpi purposes.
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Well like I said that's what I thought but look at the galaxy nexus
Gnex: 315 PPI
N4: 319 PPI
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gagdude said:
Well like I said that's what I thought but look at the galaxy nexus
Gnex: 315 PPI
N4: 319 PPI
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either way. the app needs to be updated, cosmetic problem.
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either way. the app needs to be updated, cosmetic problem.
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Any deeper explanation? The fact that Android apps resize according to device (given that there are a multitude of them with different resolutions) means that the SpeedTest app on the N4 and GNex should resize nearly identically.
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Any deeper explanation? The fact that Android apps resize according to device (given that there are a multitude of them with different resolutions) means that the SpeedTest app on the N4 and GNex should resize nearly identically.
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Just contact the devs at SpeedTest on the email on their app and tell them its not maximizing the full screen estate for the Nexus 4.
It has no impact on the app itself, it's just cosmetics. The app itself functions 100% fine. Honestly, you're making it more complicated than it really is.
The app still works right? And I wouldn't call that a small box.
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The app still works right? And I wouldn't call that a small box.
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Yeah the app works as intended, it just doesn't maximize itself to 100%. My tablet did this as well but it was eventually updated and used full screen.
It's something to do with the DPI and Resolution of the screen, I can't explain it in detail but it goes somewhere between those lines.
Edit: In fact my tablet does it still.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p163/gbd270/Screenshot_2012-12-27-18-20-43.png
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p163/gbd270/Screenshot_2012-12-27-18-20-47.png
ASUS Transformer TF101,
LED-backlit IPS LCD, capacitive touchscreen
Size 1280 x 800 pixels, 10.1 inches (~149 ppi pixel density)
NOTE: Both, my tablet and phone are on Android 4.2.1, so im not sure if its a 4.2.X issue or not, probably not as ive seen it in the past on my tablet.
zephiK said:
Just contact the devs at SpeedTest on the email on their app and tell them its not maximizing the full screen estate for the Nexus 4.
It has no impact on the app itself, it's just cosmetics. The app itself functions 100% fine. Honestly, you're making it more complicated than it really is.
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I never said it didn't function, my OP clearly states for an explanation. Unless you have something against curiosity, I'm not making anything more complicated. I never said I wanted a solution either, so contacting the devs doesn't help
And there's still no explanation as to why it is full on the Gnex but not on the N4
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The app still works right? And I wouldn't call that a small box.
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I know, that was just in reference to the fact that it is smaller
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I never said it didn't function, my OP clearly states for an explanation. Unless you have something against curiosity, I'm not making anything more complicated. I never said I wanted a solution either, so contacting the devs doesn't help
And there's still no explanation as to why it is full on the Gnex but not on the N4
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It's obviously something that bothers you, so yes contacting the devs would fix your problem and it would go back to full resolution similar to the GN. Like I said, it's DPI & Resolution, it's unsupported and the app doesn't know what to do. So it just leaves it in that format, it is downsized to a size that the app is familiar with. Hence why my tablet has almost the same size as the phone.
I shouldn't have to write a lecture on why it's like that. It's not a updated app, the app itself functions properly, just displays not fully on the screen.
App was last updated on June 5, 2012. So.............
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It's obviously something that bothers you, so yes contacting the devs would fix your problem and it would go back to full resolution similar to the GN. Like I said, it's DPI & Resolution, it's unsupported and the app doesn't know what to do. So it just leaves it in that format, it is downsized to a size that the app is familiar with. Hence why my tablet has almost the same size as the phone.
I shouldn't have to write a lecture on why it's like that. It's not a updated app, the app itself functions properly, just displays not fully on the screen.
App was last updated on June 5, 2012. So.............
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Please don't assume things. It doesn't bother me at all. I wouldn't give two ****s if it were stuck like this forever.
I just want to know WHY it is like this. Just saying "oh yeah DPI and resolution" doesn't help because in my OP that was my original assumption, but the GN does. The Galaxy Nexus has the same resolution as the N4 so the app is not "going back a resolution"
So why does the galaxy nexus display full size but the N4 does not? If you cannot answer this question then don't act like you can.
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The 320 PPI of the N4 screen pushes it into the 'extra high' screen density category, whereas the GNex will sit in the 'high' category.
It could be that the Speed Test app hasn't been optimised for the 'extra high' category yet. Given the design of the app it would likely require a new set of graphics.
Are there any devices with screens at 320+ PPI that Speed Test does scale correctly with?
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The 320 PPI of the N4 screen pushes it into the 'extra high' screen density category, whereas the GNex will sit in the 'high' category.
It could be that the Speed Test app hasn't been optimised for the 'extra high' category yet. Given the design of the app it would likely require a new set of graphics.
Are there any devices with screens at 320+ PPI that Speed Test does scale correctly with?
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Yup. The HTC Rezound, 341 ppi and 720p like the N4
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Yup. The HTC Rezound, 341 ppi and 720p like the N4
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Just had a look at the build.prop from a Rezound, and interestingly it reports its LCD density is set to 320.
The N4 isn't 720p though, it's 768. I think this is most likely to be the problem and Speed Test hasn't been configured to scale to that aspect ratio, and is falling back to the next largest size down that it's been configured to scale to.
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Just had a look at the build.prop from a Rezound, and interestingly it reports its LCD density is set to 320.
The N4 isn't 720p though, it's 768. I think this is most likely to be the problem and Speed Test hasn't been configured to scale to that aspect ratio, and is falling back to the next largest size down that it's been configured to scale to.
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I read somewhere that was the problem. The app doesn't support 16:10 aspect ratio. Needs to be updated for that.
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Just had a look at the build.prop from a Rezound, and interestingly it reports its LCD density is set to 320.
The N4 isn't 720p though, it's 768. I think this is most likely to be the problem and Speed Test hasn't been configured to scale to that aspect ratio, and is falling back to the next largest size down that it's been configured to scale to.
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I had a feeling the extra width pixels changed it somehow and I see the reasoning. Speed Test can scale to 720p but the extra 48 pixels horizontally confuses it.
Makes sense, but then wouldn't it fill in completely and leave 24 pixels to each side of it?
Took a look at the N4 build.prop, it's also 320. Does this make a difference?
Just thought of this but I think the Galaxy Nexus has more vertical pixels because of its aspect ratio. The N4 is 1184 vertical. So the Speed Test app saw the resolution as 1184x768 thus causing it to think it is below 720p and scaling to a lower resolution.
(I just answered the question myself there didn't I lol). Anyways your post helped me realize. Ty
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I had a feeling the extra width pixels changed it somehow and I see the reasoning. Speed Test can scale to 720p but the extra 48 pixels horizontally confuses it.
Makes sense, but then wouldn't it fill in completely and leave 24 pixels to each side of it?
Took a look at the N4 build.prop, it's also 320. Does this make a difference?
Just thought of this but I think the Galaxy Nexus has more vertical pixels because of its aspect ratio. The N4 is 1184 vertical. So the Speed Test app saw the resolution as 1184x768 thus causing it to think it is below 720p and scaling to a lower resolution.
(I just answered the question myself there didn't I lol). Anyways your post helped me realize. Ty
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Single page wallpaper size for the Galaxy Nexus is 1184x720. N4 is 1184x768. Both are below 1280 due to the navbar. Its the 768 part of the N4 that causes this. I contacted the maker of the speed test app when I first got my N4 but never received a response and the app hasn't been updated in months. One of the few apps that doesn't automatically scale correctly.
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Single page wallpaper size for the Galaxy Nexus is 1184x720. N4 is 1184x768. Both are below 1280 due to the navbar. Its the 768 part of the N4 that causes this. I contacted the maker of the speed test app when I first got my N4 but never received a response and the app hasn't been updated in months. One of the few apps that doesn't automatically scale correctly.
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Strange. I thought the Galaxy Nexus had more vertical pixels because of this:
That's the gnex
Now here is N4 screenshot of same menu in same launcher
As you can see the Galaxy Nexus shows more menu items at once, which is what I believed to be because it has a higher vertical pixel count... But its not so?
EDIT: nvm N4 has books app
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Guess the 768 horizontal resolution just confused the app. Still wondering why the app wouldn't just center itself and leave 24 blank pixels to either side of it while going completely from top to bottom though...?
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This does not work well with Touchwiz launcher or the default dialer and some of the older programs.
Change the Density of the screen. Get more info on your screen, like with a high resolution setting on your PC
Need ROOT (+ BusyBox)
*Fast density switching
*With the possibility to save the density and load it on demand or save the density as your default system density
Density change not supported by all devices.
Recent changes:
(Dec. 11) Preview / temporary density change now supports more devices. Corrected version# in the about box
Note1: setting the density as the system density will not work on the *Droid Incredible* stock rom. Temporary change and change by widget on reboot will though.
Note2: The new *Nexus S* will *not* support a system density change at the moment. If it will support a temporary change is not known at the moment.
LCD Density Changer v5.4 for Android
When this programs first came I guess it did not work with the Samsung Epic so well. But now it works perfectly with the Samsung Epic. From my experience using it the first time I flashed my phone the settings did not stick then I did a fresh install and not my setting stay on my phone. The only problem I have with this application is it makes my dialer small. But I know that the genius here will come out with a theme for our phone if the demand is high. Try this program out on the android market it is now free. Please let me know what you think of it.
I am using a density of 186 and the default density is 240 so (240/186) = 1.290322580645. So (240/186)*480 = 619.354838709677 and (240/186)*800 = 1032.258064516129. My map programs look great and so does my browser. If only people can start making themes that support this resolution.
I went to this website http://thirdculture.com/joel/shumi/computer/hardware/ppicalc.html to measure the ppi and with my resoultion I got a score of 300.95 ppi. I believe the Iphone 4 score is 319. With program you can go as low as 182 and without any FC. Beyond 182 and your contact will FC. (240/182)*480 = 633 and (240/182)*800 = 1055 with a ppi of 307.57 ppi which is not too bad. Most of the newer programs adjust to the new screen resolution. Also the great part is you can always change your resolution back to the default if you want to.
This sounds not to good for future stability
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Shoulon said:
This sounds not to good for future stability
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Relax this will not mess up the stability of android. This will only increase awareness of the need for more flexible resolutions. The program is very safe and stable. I have been using this program with little to no problems the only problem I have is the dialer can be too small but you can still make phone calls. Some people may preferr more real estate space on their screen and some people my want to their display to have less real estate space. It is all personal preference.
does it remove pentile?
shabbypenguin said:
does it remove pentile?
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No, that's a hardware element/flaw in amoled screens.
063_XOBX said:
No, that's a hardware element/flaw in amoled screens.
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This can be changed by editing build.prop,why do you need an app?
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Can somebody make a dialer theme that supports LCD Density Resolution 186?
ecooce said:
This can be changed by editing build.prop,why do you need an app?
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Not everybody is as tech savvy as you are you know. This app will make it easier for people to change the resolution to their screens. Without removing your sdcard or changing a text file. Also does anybody know how to theme. I was wondering if somebody could start making themes for the higher resolution or at least make a dialer that will display regular size. The dialer on my phone is a little bit small if I could get this fix my phone will be perfect. Now I can have the best of both worlds a Super Amoled screen with similar resolution as the Iphone 4.
The difference between PenTile and Real-Stripe
The difference between PenTile and Real-Stripe
You can find this article here: http://www.tested.com/news/pentile-vs-real-stripe-amoled-displays-whats-different/1868/
Pentile sub-pixels
All the pixels of your phone are made up of multiple sub-pixels. Your phone's resolution (often 800 or 854x480) is measured in pixels. Each of the sub-pixels is for a certain color-- red, blue, or green. On Samsung's Super AMOLED screens, each pixel is composed of 8 sub-pixels. PenTile refers to the arrangement of these sub-pixel elements. Unlike standard screens, PenTile is in an RG-BG arrangement. So you get one-third fewer sub-pixels in total by repeating the green after each red or blue sub-pixel. These screens are easier to manufacture, and we know that AMOLEDs are not easy to make in the first place.
RGB sub-pixels
Super AMOLED Plus will change the sub-pixel arrangement to be more in-line with other screen technologies. These screens will use RGB-RGB sub pixel arrangement. So here you get those extra screen elements back. Samsung has decided to brand this "Real-Stripe". Whereas each pixel in PenTile is made up of 8 sub-pixels, the Real-Stripe screen have 12 elements per pixel. That's the 50% increase in sub-pixels Samsung has been throwing around. It comes from a comparison to PenTile.
The effect of sub-pixel arrangement
When you look very closely at a Super AMOLED screen, you can see the effect of the PenTile screen. Some colors look almost grainy, or dare we say pixilated. This is more noticeable with warmer colors. Things can look speckled, and text a little more blurry. We will, however, say that Super AMOLED looks better than standard AMOLED screens in the sharpness department.
If you take a closer look at a Super AMOLED Plus screen, you will see those additional Real-Stripe sub-pixels at work. There should be no more graininess when viewed closer thanks to the additional screen elements. This will put Samsung's screens more in-line with LCD in clarity. This new sub-pixel arrangement won't come without cost, though.
The drawback to Real-Stripe is that the resulting pixels are overall greater in size. That means screen have to be a little bigger to accommodate the expected WVGA resolution. Super AMOLED phones like the Nexus S and Galaxy S had 4-inch screens. The Infuse 4G and Galaxy S2 are running Super AMOLED Plus panels at 4.5 and 4.3-inches respectively. The increased size is because the pixels are larger. We still expect image quality ot be better than Super AMOLED.
What this means for the future
The increase in pixel size for Real-Stripe is due to the manufacturing technology Samsung is using to produce their screens. Samsung currently employs Fine-Metal-Mask (FMM) technology to manufacture Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus. This is a fine method, but it is expensive and has a printing accuracy of about 15μm (micrometers). Using this technique, Samsung can only make screen with pixel densities of about 200ppi. That's right in line with a 4.3-inch WVGA screen.
Samsung expects to soon switch over to laser-induced thermal imaging (LITI). As you may expect, this is a cheaper and more accurate method of producing AMOLED panels. LITI has accuracy of about accuracy of about 2.5μm. As a result, Samsung expects to be able to produce panels over 300ppi. In case you weren't aware, the iPhone 4 is about 326ppi. That could be an incredible AMOLED screen.
We flat-out like Samsung's Super AMOLED screens, and AMOLED Plus is likely to be a worthy successor. The color vibrancy and black levels are great, and clarity is better than standard AMOLED. The lingering issues with AMOLED are slowly being eroded as new manufacturing technologies roll out. Samsung phones will probably continue to have some of the most impressive screens out there for the foreseeable future. Let us know what you think about AMOLED panels and the different sub-pixel arrangements. Would you overlook Samsung's other Android issues to lay hands on a Super AMOLED Plus screen?
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FYI this is a paid app on the marketplace.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.beansoft.lcd_density_changer&feature=search_result
algorhythm said:
FYI this is a paid app on the marketplace.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.beansoft.lcd_density_changer&feature=search_result
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Not anymore lol
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Try Go Contacts with has a Go Dialer included it is free.
I found the solution to my problem. It is call Go Contacts which has go dialer bundled with. Download on free application and get the second for free. You can't beat that deal!!!!
What is your opinion on LCD Density?
Has anybody try this program and what are your thoughts on it.
Its alright. I can do the same thing by editing the build.prop file that the app does, so no real reason except the interface. I'm at 190 right now. I like it there.
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Its alright. I can do the same thing by editing the build.prop file that the app does, so no real reason except the interface. I'm at 190 right now. I like it there.
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I have been on 100 LCD density threads and your the only other person to do 190. High five!
You must it is a cool interface.
Did you try Go Contacts as a fix for the dial pad? You can download it from the android market place.
not free. so idk
Reply i like this on 186
But there are a few problems like the corner has the time cut off and keyboard is now.smaller
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Looks nice but overheats and drains my battery
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not free. so idk
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I downloaded from the android market place for free yesterday. Besides that is not even the topic. I am sick of self righteous people getting off topic. If you paid for your program I want to hear about your experiences or if you got it for free I want to great about your experiences with LCD Density. Is the only thing you guys can talk about is did you pay for the software? Please don't look down on me because I choose to download the android market place for free and not pay for it and don't look down me for choosing to make it easier for people to download the software on this site by providing a link to the apk file.
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I don't know if its me, the device or just the screen. Cause my IPS screen on my nexus 7 is just not beating my Samsung galaxy s2,3 and my galaxy nexus's super amoled screen. The colors on the IPS just looks so washed out and plain if you compare it to a screen that has super amoled. Anyone done this yet? Compare the colors? Cause the screen just makes a huge difference lol. Unless my nexus 7 is defected.... I think it would have been a lot better if it was made by Samsung instead of Asus. Samsung super amoled just kills any other screens
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This does not have a great screen. It's a cheap tablet, lower your expectations.
lilphil240 said:
This does not have a great screen. It's a cheap tablet, lower your expectations.
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Even if it was 4-500$ I'd still buy it. I Love pure Google products
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Go watch Transformers at 40-50% brightness then come back. The screen is fine.
It isn't superb but rather alright.
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Even if it was 4-500$ I'd still buy it. I Love pure Google products
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No you wouldn't. If the N7 was sub 500....I wouldn't touch it I doubt the swarm thats attacking it would either. That's what sets it apart its price.
Its too barebones IMO to be that much. Plus build quality isn't up to par. (Glass isn't scratch resistant, Crap speakers, Flickering, At least a option for a Cell radio ect) all my opinion.
I even noticed a slight burn in too....
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Will be fix by custom rom
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It's higher resolution, but low brightness. Consider yourself a Best Buy salesman's dream customer.
Its ok for me bu not the best, but it can be fjxed with a future kernel(s). On the nexus there is franco and trinity kernel. With them i cn adjust colour
Red
Green
Blue
There is gamma adjustment
And contrast adjustment.
With all of these you can get your personal setting. It wont be long before we start to see ths kind of stuff for the n7.
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Yeah. The price is just right for a device like this. I wasn't saying I didn't like it. I love it!!!
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Its ok for me bu not the best, but it can be fjxed with a future kernel(s). On the nexus there is franco and trinity kernel. With them i cn adjust colour
Red
Green
Blue
There is gamma adjustment
And contrast adjustment.
With all of these you can get your personal setting. It wont be long before we start to see ths kind of stuff for the n7.
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These kinds of adjustments are only possible on AMOLED screens.
Super amoled screens are not the best.
The HTC EVO 4G LTE has the best screen in the market now. Just saying..
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Tegra 3 has some battery saving feature called PRISIM/DIDIM which boosts colors/contrast in order to reduce backlight consumption. There doesn't appear to be a way to disable it. When I watch a movie for 30 secs or so and return to the home screen I notice that the boosted colors/contrast still remains until I power off the screen. I hope Nvidia and Google make the feature optional by way of a firmware update. Other than that the tablet is quite decent.
Am I the only one who isn't keen on the superamoledplusomgwtfbbq screens?
After using my N7 and going back to my GS2 I think it looks way too over saturated and just a little bit ridiculous. I much prefer the screen on this, amoled screens to me look like when you're photoshopping a picture and accidentally slip while adjusting the saturation and set it to max.
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The Nexus 7 uses the same beautiful, amazing screen as the 3rd generation iPad. The N7 has a lower native resolution obviously, but the underlying technology is identical between both devices.
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The Nexus 7 uses the same beautiful, amazing screen as the 3rd generation iPad. The N7 has a lower native resolution obviously, but the underlying technology is identical between both devices.
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Not at all. If you compare colour contrast and saturation between the two, you'll notice that the Nexus 7 looks much less vibrant than the new iPad.
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Not at all. If you compare colour contrast and saturation between the two, you'll notice that the Nexus 7 looks much less vibrant than the new iPad.
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This should simply be because the new iPad has a higher pixel density than the Nexus 7. Higher pixel densities lead to higher color saturation since there's less empty space between the pixels and more colorful pixels to fill that space. The underlying screen technology should still be the same (IPS).
I really don't like the amoled screens. Their colour accuracy is just horrible. Cracking the saturation to 11 does not make a screen good. The amoleds on S2s that I've seen have all kinds of horrible colour casting. White is a sort of blueish colour. Give me a decent IPS panel any day of the week.
I've always been a bit fussy about colour accuracy. Calibrize is a good little programme for the PC that lets you get the colours roughly right.
This thing is competing with the Kindle Fire and whatever they bring out. It's a "Play Store" device, pushing magazines and books. It's perfect for it's purpose.
Open up a book on this thing and it looks great. Crisp and sharp text, even if the home screen does look a little under saturated.
Agreed, Home screen is is not well saturated. Netflix and several other apps look very well saturated. I would say its pretty typical for IPS.
Nothing beats amoled for contrast/blacks though.
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We've all paid a premium pricing for a premium quality tablet experience and so far with the updates, its been getting better and better. However, I downloaded the racing game Asphalt 8 because I noticed a lot of review sites using this as an example in the over the graphics tablet comparasions (mainly the iPad Air and Mini). And I was taken aback when I went into setting, thinking that I would be able to max this puppy out graphically. However, the highest graphics quality I was able to select was "Low"!
Really,...."low" on a $550+ top of the line device is truly unacceptable.
I'm not sure if I should be upset with Samsung because of its in house Exynos variant as compared to the Snapdragon, or with Gamelofts graphics engine. All I know is that I'm kinda upset with both companies right now, because at the end of the day, you and I as the consumer are the ones that paid the premium price tag and ultimately suffer.
What's weird is that my buddy installed the same game on his T-Mobile GALAXY Note 2 ( which has an older Exynos processor) and got to choose the highest graphics options.
Is it just my tablet, and if not, who should I be talking to, to get this issue resolved. I love this tablet and I use it mostly for work and productivity, but when I want to relax and game, I want a gaming experience device that reflects the pricing.
Thanks for letting me blow off a little steam, but this is absolutely ridiculous!
Please share your thoughts below.
Eddie,
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Try the developers
Email the developers about the problem. I'm sure they can fix it to enable max graphics for the tablet.
Be upset with gameloft, not samsung...
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Can anyone else check if they are limited to low setting only as well please? Have you emailed Gameloft yet, OP?
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Can anyone else check if they are limited to low setting only as well please? Have you emailed Gameloft yet, OP?
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Punkmilitia, I just forwarded this post to gameloft, so I will update soon with their response. Hopefully it'll be good news, we'll see.
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What's weird is that my buddy installed the same game on his T-Mobile GALAXY Note 2 ( which has an older Exynos processor) and got to choose the highest graphics options.
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It's not weird at all. The N10.1-14 has an image area of 45 square inches while the N2's image area is 13.5 square inches. So the N10.1-14 is pushing 13,455 pixels (45 square inches x 299 PPI) while the N2's pushing 2,255 (13.5 square inches x 167 PPI). The Note 3 is 14.8 square inches so it's pushing 5,742 pixels (14.8 square inches x 388 PPI). That means the N10.1-14 is pushing 83% more pixels than the N2 and 57% more than the N3.
Mali-T628 in the Exynos N10.1-14 and Adreno 330 in the S-800 version are both excellent; but they have their work cut out for them based on the size and pixel density of the N10.1-14's display. So comparing high PPI tablets to their phone counterparts isn't really apples-to-apples when discussing performance.
There are exactly two tablets with 2560 x 1600 resolution out right now, so it's not surprising that the app doesn't recognize the Note's native resolution. It's not that the tablet can't run max settings, it's that the app doesn't know what the max settings are because it doesn't understand what resolution it's looking at.
You also have to remember that when developing an app for Android, think about all of the various Android devices of differemt screen sizes, hardware, versions of Android, etc., that the developer has to contend with.
When someone is developing an app for an iOS device, those numbers are significantly lower since Apple controls hardware/software to a much more in-depth degree. If a developer is making an app for current gen devices that means they likely only have to support iOS 7, and 3-4 devices vs hundreds.
Wow. Um. Okay.
I'm not sure if I should be upset with Samsung because of its in house Exynos variant as compared to the Snapdragon
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First off, the Exynos has tested faster than the Snapdragon. It's a faster processor.
Two, that's not the GPU. The GPU is the Mali-T628.
Third, the GPU benchmarks REALLY well.
Fourth, why would you assume that because an app doesn't LET you choose higher quality settings that it's the TABLET'S problem?
Jeeeeeeez, some people...
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Punkmilitia, I just forwarded this post to gameloft, so I will update soon with their response. Hopefully it'll be good news, we'll see.
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Good. Hopefully they see it and add the 10.1 to the list if devices capable of doing higher than low settings.
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Can anyone else check if they are limited to low setting only as well please? Have you emailed Gameloft yet, OP?
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Just emailed them as well. Hopefully this isn't an issue with our tablets, although I'm beginning to think that it is since I can't even stream HD content from Google Play Movies or even YouTube..:banghead:
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I suggest downloading Dead Trigger 2. It's free and really shows off the capabilities of the hardware
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Just emailed them as well. Hopefully this isn't an issue with our tablets, although I'm beginning to think that it is since I can't even stream HD content from Google Play Movies or even YouTube..:banghead:
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You sure that's not just an internet problem? Anyone else want to check if they can on theirs? This is starting to look worrying. I hope I don't have all these problems when mine comes otherwise I will just stick with my iPad..
Gameloft has a few games that don't even run on the galaxy 10.1 2014. N.O.V.A 3 craps out after the splash screen and its been that way for weeks. I contacted game loft and no answer on it whatsoever. So, who knows, maybe they don't care.
Hanson68 said:
There are exactly two tablets with 2560 x 1600 resolution out right now, so it's not surprising that the app doesn't recognize the Note's native resolution. It's not that the tablet can't run max settings, it's that the app doesn't know what the max settings are because it doesn't understand what resolution it's looking at.
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There are at least 4 if you exclude variants:
Nexus 10
Asus TF701T
Toshiba Excite Pro
Note 10.1 2014
With the N10 being out over a year and the Toshiba launched this past summer, surely SOMEONE has used this game on this res.
Good news
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Good news
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We some job dude! My body is ready for the update.
not limitation on my device
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Can anyone else check if they are limited to low setting only as well please? Have you emailed Gameloft yet, OP?
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I am using Samsung galaxy note10.1 2014 edition as well and no limitation on the Graphics settings
No prob with my galaxy note p605.
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Gameloft has a few games that ... maybe they don't care.
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That is Gameloft. They make (maybe) great games but they didn't know how to write apps for Android since years. Every new device with different specs have this problem with their games. And yes, their customer support is always bad...
Normally they have to be informed and after some updates, they can handel the new specs.
Hey there chaps. I've done a little review after using the phone for almost a full year now and wanted to share it. Love the phone, it's been a breath of fresh air owning it this year. Let's hope the M8 carries on the awesomeness!
HTC One Review
Good review...you basically spoke for me when describing the phone and touched on the key selling points of the phone. Now to see what the new version has in store when in person.
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Hey thanks. Yeh it's been a brilliant phone. I really hope the new one is good but atm it looks like HTC have done a bit of a Samsung and just done a (questionably) mildly better new device. Sad about the 5" screen though. Lower resolution then the M7 is the rumours are true.
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Hey thanks. Yeh it's been a brilliant phone. I really hope the new one is good but atm it looks like HTC have done a bit of a Samsung and just done a (questionably) mildly better new device. Sad about the 5" screen though. Lower resolution then the M7 is the rumours are true.
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How could it be a lower resolution?
Still 1080p.... A lower ppi however, though that won't be noticeable
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How could it be a lower resolution?
Still 1080p.... A lower ppi however, though that won't be noticeable
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Yea I just caught that too, must have meant ppi...no problem, I think we are all smart enough to know...maybe a slight edit due for the review for the less knowledgeable readers?
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1080p on a 5" screen = lower ppi which is lower level of resolution IMO. Less is less. And though it is all 'apparently' above what the human eye can tell the difference between, I don't know why HTC have chosen what in my eyes is a downgrade with the new device. Unless it ends up being just rumours after all.
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Dont think the new one will do that well compared to other devices it's going to have to offer something really unique and iam not really felling it with pictures and rumours. But iam sure it will be a great device and a good upgrade but not sure about it being a huge hit hope iam wrong though.
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1080p on a 5" screen = lower ppi which is lower level of resolution IMO. Less is less. And though it is all 'apparently' above what the human eye can tell the difference between, I don't know why HTC have chosen what in my eyes is a downgrade with the new device. Unless it ends up being just rumours after all.
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By writing this, it is apparent you don't know what resolution is.
Ppi and resolution are not the same thing...
It is the same resolution, not lower level of resolution.
Electrical engineer here btw
Also it is such a minute difference that it will not be noticeable.
Higher at 5 inches (4K for example) is just overkill
Ok guys ok, let's not let this thread become a pissing contest please, it started out as a positive thread and quickly escalated to "who knows more", which isn't productive and to be honest kinda immature for no real reason...
The resolutions are the same, screen is slightly bigger in New one which will lower the ppi a tiny bit which will probably be undetectable to the naked eye in the real world...only difference if there is any, will be the vividness of the colors since the pixels will be ever so slightly further apart...
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This has been the best phone I have had. Better than the S3 plastic poop I had before!
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If anything lower ppi better battery
Those who had HoX like I did know how superb screen it had and it was only 318ppi +720p , I barely saw the difference on m7 with FHD +468PPI , why worry anyway ...amoled screens are pentile and lower resolution then ours and still are crisp almost as ours. Like I said no worries here unless you belive more is always better
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Shan89 said:
If anything lower ppi better battery
Those who had HoX like I did know how superb screen it had and it was only 318ppi +720p , I barely saw the difference on m7 with FHD +468PPI , why worry anyway ...amoled screens are pentile and lower resolution then ours and still are crisp almost as ours. Like I said no worries here unless you belive more is always better
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Exactly....
I think 1080p is the upper limit on a phone. The bump to 2k or 4K is just going to cause unnecessary battery drain and is more of a "whose e peen is bigger" thing than a useful addition.
More battery drain, more taxing on the processor...
I could see on a tablet, but not on a phone 6 inches or smaller.
I still love my One. Nothing has yet to match it in terms of build quality and design. It's no wonder it won the Smartphone of the year award at MWC:
http://www.globalmobileawards.com/winners-2014/#cat_id22
and I agree with your all points especially the point you made regarding the Highlights Themes being removed :crying:. I have even contemplated reverting back to Sense 5.0 to get them back.
A year on, this phone is still blazing. Although...I made a switch to GPE (sinless) which honestly flies faster and has better battery. I don't really miss Zoe or any of the sense apps. The hardware is enough for me to love HTC.
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A year on, this phone is still blazing. Although...I made a switch to GPE (sinless) which honestly flies faster and has better battery. I don't really miss Zoe or any of the sense apps. The hardware is enough for me to love HTC.
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I have actually heard the opposite, that sense is much better as far as battery life. What is your typical screen on time?
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Exactly....
I think 1080p is the upper limit on a phone. The bump to 2k or 4K is just going to cause unnecessary battery drain and is more of a "whose e peen is bigger" thing than a useful addition.
More battery drain, more taxing on the processor...
I could see on a tablet, but not on a phone 6 inches or smaller.
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I agree
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I have actually heard the opposite, that sense is much better as far as battery life. What is your typical screen on time?
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Sense is better for battery then GPE
horsetastic said:
Sense is better for battery then GPE
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World make sense too (bad pun I know), since it would be more fine tuned for the one's hardware. I get great battery life on sense but not so much in the brief period I tried gpe.
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By writing this, it is apparent you don't know what resolution is.
Ppi and resolution are not the same thing...
It is the same resolution, not lower level of resolution.
Electrical engineer here btw
Also it is such a minute difference that it will not be noticeable.
Higher at 5 inches (4K for example) is just overkill
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I wasn't intending on this becoming a pis#ing match and I did state that it was only my opinion. I know the technical description of resolution however to me it includes the clarity of an image and that is down to the PPI. Of course a 5" and a 50" screen can have the same resolution and you would chose which ever one suited your needs the best but the 5" display will always show the image better than the 50".
If you look at the defenition of resolution you'll find that is actually means "the degree of detail visible in a photographic or television image" this is what equates to something being "a high-resolution monitor". Hence I have formed my opinion based on this.
Electrical Mechanical Design Engineer here btw
And, still to me there's no need for HTC to have upped the screen size to 5". Nothing wrong with the 4.7" on the One. It is an epic phone and the high PPI was a good selling point. I know the're probably just trying to compete with the S5 etc but to me the screen size should have been left alone.
Let's not forget that even 1080P is an overkill on our little 4.7 inch screens, my tv is 46 inches big with the same resolution as my phone! This is nuts! Why don't they take it down to 720P and gain a massive battery life boost
Battery is standing at 90% after an hr of rather heavy usage. Screen on time is also an hr as i have been surfing and playing games non stop. Rather impressive compared before rooting. Basically what i did was root my phone. Ran android tweaker 2. Ran disable service app. Lastly using nomone, i am running 1920 x 1080 with 530 dpi. Will monitor and post my final screen on time after it completely drains.
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Batt is at 90% after an hr of moderate usage. Screen on time is also an hr as i have surfing and playing games non stop. Rather impressive compared before rooting. Basically what i did was root my phone. Ran android tweaker 2. Ran disable service app. Lastly using noneme, i am running 1920 x 1080 with 530 dpi. Difference before was huge!
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I don't really understand why people run the screen at 1920x1080. Doesn't that pretty much defeat the purpose of buying this phone? You effectively turned your G3 into a Find 7a.
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I don't really understand why people run the screen at 1920x1080. Doesn't that pretty much defeat the purpose of buying this phone? You effectively turned your G3 into a Find 7a.
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I like everything about this phone except the impact the screen has on the battery. I'd gladly modify my G3(when I get it) to make it 1920x1080 if the performance is exactly the same and the battery life is superior compare to its standard 2k settings.
Looking forward to your results, TC!
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I don't really understand why people run the screen at 1920x1080. Doesn't that pretty much defeat the purpose of buying this phone? You effectively turned your G3 into a Find 7a.
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Perhaps I'm in the minority, but the only reason I'm hesitant to buy this phone is because it's 2560x1440 and that will kill the battery. If I knew how to change the screen to 1920x1080 I'd do it in a heartbeat if I get the phone. The G3 is significantly smaller and lighter than the 7A fwiw.
To the OP: Be sure to screenshot your stats at the end of your charge and share them. Enjoy.
I honestly had no idea that you could change the resolution of your phone. Does it look odd being a 1440 display on 1080p?
You are not the minority really, I am actually scared to buy because of the battery/heating issues revolving around the super display.
Osseon said:
I honestly had no idea that you could change the resolution of your phone. Does it look odd being a 1440 display on 1080p?
You are not the minority really, I am actually scared to buy because of the battery/heating issues revolving around the super display.
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Yes i had no idea i could till i came across someone who posted the app. Need root to use it. Very simple and few prefixes for you to select. Also setting it too low for the dpi might result in glitches as reported by several users and 530 is the sweet spot. On another hand i did encounter a glitch which is when i try to select a word that i typed wrongly for correction, the entire screen went blank for a while, kinda random. So far all my apps and games are running well.
Can you post a link of this application
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Can you post a link of this application
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Its called texdroid on Google play
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Its called texdroid on Google play
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The OP is talking about the actual resolution, not the DPI. You can change the resolution from 2k to 1080p thus reducing the load on the CPU and GPU and making the phone faster and giving greater battery life. You do have to change the DPI afterwards also as it messes it up. The app to change the actual resolution is called Nomone. I don't change the resolution as that's one of the reasons I Bought the phone, for the 2k display. I do think the S801 is at its limit for pushing the QHD though, 1080p does "feel" better.
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The OP is talking about the actual resolution, not the DPI. You can change the resolution from 2k to 1080p thus reducing the load on the CPU and GPU and making the phone faster and giving greater battery life. You do have to change the DPI afterwards also as it messes it up. The app to change the actual resolution is called Nomone. I don't change the resolution as that's one of the reasons I Bought the phone, for the 2k display. I do think the S801 is at its limit for pushing the QHD though, 1080p does "feel" better.
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As what batfink mentioned. Spot on. My phone used to get warm when it gets intense but now it doesnt anymore. The qhd is great but comes with a price.
It would be nice for you guys to post steps and settings on how you did this for those that don't have the phone yet.
I for one agree that 2K isn't needed and I'd rather have the longer battery life.
Are transition animations any smoother on 1080p?
Could you, please, post DETAILED tutorial?
It's kind of sad that one of the phone's biggest selling points, at least in the public eye and to the spec whores, is also something a lot of us wish we could have sacrificed in favor of better battery. My heart is pretty much set on this phone, but I'm waiting on an official Moto X+1 announcement before I commit.
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Are transition animations any smoother on 1080p?
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Sorry all my animations are off.
just a question regarding this nomone app, just applied 1080 by 1920 dpi 530 applied the changes... but still showing up current settings at 1440x2560 640 dpi any ideas why?
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It's kind of sad that one of the phone's biggest selling points, at least in the public eye and to the spec whores, is also something a lot of us wish we could have sacrificed in favor of better battery. My heart is pretty much set on this phone, but I'm waiting on an official Moto X+1 announcement before I commit.
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but why is it sad? seeing this post makes me think about dropping my 1080p nexus 5 down to 720p to see what the battery savings are like
everyone has different tastes and preferences. just because it features a QHD display doesn't mean everyone feels that sacrifice is worth it
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just a question regarding this nomone app, just applied 1080 by 1920 dpi 530 applied the changes... but still showing up current settings at 1440x2560 640 dpi any ideas why?
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do you have root?
I had over 1hr screen time at 90% after non stop 1hr use, comparing this to your time, it seems the extra pixels dont do much. Theoreticly I can get over 5hrs according to this screenshot. Phone has been on since, 12pm, it's 19:30 now.
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but why is it sad? seeing this post makes me think about dropping my 1080p nexus 5 down to 720p to see what the battery savings are like
everyone has different tastes and preferences. just because it features a QHD display doesn't mean everyone feels that sacrifice is worth it
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do you have root?
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Yeah, running SuperSU
poor me lol, sorry, i did gave the app supersu permissions but it did not accept, just changed again in superSU app,, all working fine
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just a question regarding this nomone app, just applied 1080 by 1920 dpi 530 applied the changes... but still showing up current settings at 1440x2560 640 dpi any ideas why?
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That happened to me, I uninstalled then reinstalled the app and it worked again.
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