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As a newbie, I can't raise this question in Development box, so I guess I'll post it here.
My NC just arrived 2 days ago and I have installed the Dualboot CM7 & CM9 by racks11479. I am an absolute newbie on Android, so I just want to know which one is better in terms of battery life and stability/compatibility.
Many thanks.
right now cm7 is because its stable, but cm9is stable for everyday use but there are some bugs, i like them both but when cm9 is complete it will be alot better then cm7, both are good on battery i cant tell the difference
It seems to me that CM9 still has some bugs (Youtube, Earth and some games don't work on my NC). And the response is a bit slower than CM7. Anybody got the same experience?
I am using samiam's CM9 nightly with v6supercharger and am very happy so far. It is stable and very usable for daily use, in my opinion. But maybe I like to live dangerously.
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I also cannot post in the Development forum. I have created the dual boot SD from racks11479. CM7 works great but in CM9 I cannot get the Gapps to work. When I click on Market nothing happens. The Gmail icon is there but when I click on it I get a message that the app is not installed.
I have re-installed the Gapps at least twice and get the same problem each time.
Any ideas?
Yup same thing
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I had the same problem when I first installed the racks triple-boot. Hate to tell you, but the only way I got it to work was to wipe the whole card and start from scratch. 2nd install worked great, and later updates worked with a simple Gapps re-flash.
vinhattieu said:
I am an absolute newbie on Android, so I just want to know which one is better in terms of battery life and stability/compatibility.
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Like others, I'm finding CM9 preferable as a daily driver, but for all three items you specifically listed, CM7 has it beat. Well, I'm not getting force closes or anything, so I'll give CM9 stability, but no hardware video acceleration means certain apps are not going to work, and others won't work well (scratch compatibility), and I'm finding the battery drains much faster than CM7.
hi guys!!
i'd like just to ask you your opinion, hoping this is the right forum section
do you think is cm better than ms2ginger??
i know it's a huge question to ask, but maybe just some feedback about battery life and speed (maybe with quadrant values..)
i have a defy+ and after some time with miui pikachu (i really loved it), i switched to cm white rabbit (i love it even more). i have tried 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5 version and i think the best one is the 1.3, the rom i'm currently using!
great battery life (2 days with traffic data on, lots of whatsapp messages, some facebook, some browsing, sms and calls) and 1900/1950 on quadrant!
i'm really curious about ms2ginger, after the last months switching rom every 2 days i'm start gettin tired
thanks guys!!
bye
ah sorry, i've completely forgot.. the only bug i have with wr 1.3 is a small delay opening the facebook app.. sometime it freezes but not often! i don't know if it's a wr or a facebook app issue.. just want to share with you guys!
I did use MS2Ginger for couple of days, but now for about 4 weeks i'm pretty happy with CM 7.2 RC1 - stable, fast and pretty good battery life. In my opinion CM is faster than MS2Ginger, just in normal use.
thanks man! did you noticed any battery drop on ms2ginger?
try CM9 ^^
faster than any other rom
video record is buggy
but otherwise rom is pretty stable
i'm really curious on cm9! so do you think i should try it? is it ready for everyday use?? is the battery life long like cm7?
last question..
should i use quartz or epsilon version?
thanks everyone!
daede86 said:
i'm really curious on cm9! so do you think i should try it? is it ready for everyday use?? is the battery life long like cm7?
last question..
should i use quartz or epsilon version?
thanks everyone!
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Give it a try ans feel the difference yourself. For me, yes CM9 is the best ROM for my daily use.
About Quarx or Epsylon; Both devs are awesome with their ROMs however, IMO as Epsylon's build are regularly updated these days that's why I'm currently using Epsylon's.
Thanks mate!
Then I'll give it a try, maybe with muliboot cm white rabbit and epsilon pics!
I need to do some research to learn how to multiboot and I'll do it!
Let you know!
Thanks
daede86 said:
Thanks mate!
Then I'll give it a try, maybe with muliboot cm white rabbit and epsilon pics!
I need to do some research to learn how to multiboot and I'll do it!
Let you know!
Thanks
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My pleasure. You know what Sharing is Caring! Lol
Anyways you may refer to the following article for Multiboot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375156
Good Luck!
If you'll try it in multiboot, be aware, that if cm9 is the second boot system, you won't be able to acces root.
At least i havent been
There should have been a point in the settings, where you should have the possibility, but it wasnt there. Other user on xda, had the same problem.
This was the main reason for me to have cm9 as primary instead of White Rabbit.
I then saw how good it is and didnt install a second boot rom
mmm ok then i'll try directly cm9 for some days and then decide!! it's even easier.. i'm starting getting lazy
just the last question about cm9:
i've read some users have big battery drop with the latest versions.. have you experienced something like that???
because in my wr battery is awesome!
thanks again guys!!!
daede86 said:
mmm ok then i'll try directly cm9 for some days and then decide!! it's even easier.. i'm starting getting lazy
just the last question about cm9:
i've read some users have big battery drop with the latest versions.. have you experienced something like that???
because in my wr battery is awesome!
thanks again guys!!!
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We are here to share. Sharing is Caring!
I'm using the latest version released on 16th April (My Birthday ) and yeah I also feel the battery doesn't last that much as it was in the 6th April build.
Also I 'm facing slow keylock response at times.
sharing is caring.. i like it
i've tried the latest epsilon cm9 build and i really like it! better than i thought for sure.. really nice UI!
but i have to say it.. it's still a bit slow.. i'm waiting for the latest release of white rabbit plus 1.5.1 this weekend and i'll go back to cm7! it's so smooth and fast... you should give it a try, it's the best rom so far (speaking about the 1.3, i still have to test the 1.5.1)
i'll wait few months more and i'll test again cm9
byebye
daede86 said:
sharing is caring.. i like it
i've tried the latest epsilon cm9 build and i really like it! better than i thought for sure.. really nice UI!
but i have to say it.. it's still a bit slow.. i'm waiting for the latest release of white rabbit plus 1.5.1 this weekend and i'll go back to cm7! it's so smooth and fast... you should give it a try, it's the best rom so far (speaking about the 1.3, i still have to test the 1.5.1)
i'll wait few months more and i'll test again cm9
byebye
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'm downloading WhiteRabbit Edition v.1.5.1.
ms2ginger \o/ very fast,beautiful and the battery is very nice...
I know it is not differnet than the fxp builds but it is the official final version so it should be good. I am flashing it right know, when its finished i will share my experiene. Has anyone tried it yet?
Okay what i can say for know is that its awesome. Everything (not xperia play related) is working fine and even the performence seems to be a little better. Not as good as CM10 but better.
Just flashed it a while ago, and currently those games like Bruce Lee and Crash Bandicoot doesn't work. I think the kernel is the problem (maybe?). Currently, the kernel flashed here is the freexperia one.
tajhai said:
Just flashed it a while ago, and currently those games like Bruce Lee and Crash Bandicoot doesn't work. I think the kernel is the problem (maybe?). Currently, the kernel flashed here is the freexperia one.
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No, it's the game not the kernel. There is a gamepad fix (that fxp nor cm ever put it) that fixes some games, but there will always be some games that will never work past stock (aosp based roms) and since devs have no access to that source they won't be fixed
Has CM9 reached the speed of CM7 yet? The last time I tried it was FXP128 and it's just SO SLOW in comparison to CM7. Opening apps happens lightning fast on cm7 and takes a fair while on CM9. Even thing like opening the recent apps popup takes far too long on CM9. Is any of this improved?
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Has CM9 reached the speed of CM7 yet? The last time I tried it was FXP128 and it's just SO SLOW in comparison to CM7. Opening apps happens lightning fast on cm7 and takes a fair while on CM9. Even thing like opening the recent apps popup takes far too long on CM9. Is any of this improved?
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Well, it will never be as fast as gb because it's a huge ram hog, but it is in no way slow at all. cm10 is coming along nicely, so you could wait for that if you like
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Well, it will never be as fast as gb because it's a huge ram hog, but it is in no way slow at all. cm10 is coming along nicely, so you could wait for that if you like
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I too thought it was something to do with RAM but the avail. RAM reported in CM7 is around the same as CM9. CM9 said 353 and CM7 says 357.
I took this from "about phone" in the settings, I'm assuming that's available RAM AFTER system use so I don't think RAM is causing the speed issue.
I don't know, but I don't like the CM9. CM10 is much faster and has higher/smoother FPS.
For me:
CM7 vs CM9: CM7 win.
CM9 vs CM10: CM10 win.
CM7 vs CM10: CM7 win for Gaming, CM10 win for Appearance + Features.
Just sharing my thoughts
Data not working for me. Tried both stable as well as the latest nightly. Anyone else facing this problem?
Jazz Like That said:
Data not working for me. Tried both stable as well as the latest nightly. Anyone else facing this problem?
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Nope. Work for me. I used stable and RC.
Bad, the WiFi issue pisses me off (few days of usage) then I get the WiFi loop, I avoid CM9 based roms now, I'm using CM10.
what ROM is the fastest and stable in games for my defy?
Cm7? Miui? wich version?
my defy: 1Ghz chipset + RED lens camera + 1530mah battery = they changed my chipset and camera at warranty...
I found MIUI a bit slower than CM7...
CM7 is for sure the fastest and most stable... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
you can try the WhiteRabbit build as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510063
pppprrrr said:
I found MIUI a bit slower than CM7...
CM7 is for sure the fastest and most stable... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
you can try the WhiteRabbit build as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510063
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I also recomend you WIUI stable or the latest one. Is fast enough, much more than standard MIUI.
I think
hi,
i you are only crazy about games then go for CM7 and if you want a lot of customizations on your defy and go for MIUI 2.4.13/WIUI latest version for Defy.
Thanks
In my experience, MIUI Pikachu Edition was faster than WIUI GB.
Still, I think the fastest are CM7 KANG's by FuZZ But not a big difference between them and Pikachu.
Rom's For Defy
Im also having defy....
I have used many roms....
Deiffrent roms containt different variety or features.....
In my opinion....
Pikachu Rom - Fastest rom i have ever seen, it has aroma installer, v6 supercharger:victory:
(link) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498843
CM9 fast edition - based on ICS 4.04,much stable and fast....(note) - it is for red lens and defy plus only,because in green lense your camera will not work.....It also has Aroma installer......
(link) http://www.grupoandroid.com/topic/45682-ics-404-cm9-fast-edition-v50-new-age-1705/
CM 9 Moto Ice Gun - Stable and good....but not so much faster.....
(link) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781658
CM 10 - This rom contains Some awesome features.....its really good and my favorite.....But not stable yet......work in progress....There are 2 devs who are developing CM 10 bases rom Epsylon3 And Quarx.....since Epsylon is busy with Galaxy R, you should go for quarx build........
(link) http://www.longren.org/cyanogendefy/
Thank You.....
CM7 is only good for certain games, like Skies of Glory. It's not the fastest ROM.
MIUI and WIUI aren't fast in any way. I don't know what you're talking about.
CM9 is slow, but Moto Ice Gun and Defy+++ are all very fast. They are based off of Quarx's
CM9 builds and have V6 supercharger and kickass kernelizer. I have no idea if Bravia Engine is just
a placebo effect or not.
CM10 is fastest for games, but doesn't mean that all games are compatible with it. Regular performance
isn't that great.
Stock froyo and GB are good for games, surprisingly. try CEE Deblur 3.4.2-179 or 4.5.1-134 DFP 231
FuZZ's CM7 builds are indeed really fast. I'm impressed!
I have done a speed comparison of various ROMs for the Defy and posted in the German Android forums, you guys might be interested int that.
Google for "Benchmark verschiedener ROMs für das Defy", because I am new here I am not allow to post links yet (argh).
niksy+ said:
In my experience, MIUI Pikachu Edition was faster than WIUI GB.
Still, I think the fastest are CM7 KANG's by FuZZ But not a big difference between them and Pikachu.
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Does Fuzz do any CM9/10 builds? I'm new to the device so I don't know all of the devs yet. His CM7 isreally good and I wonder if he has recent newer builds to try.
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Does Fuzz do any CM9/10 builds? I'm new to the device so I don't know all of the devs yet. His CM7 isreally good and I wonder if he has recent newer builds to try.
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He use to do CM9 KANG's, but then stopped as Gingerbread was his choice and his priority and he couldn't keep up maintaining both CM7 and CM9 kangs for both DEFY and DEFY+... He might jump back to that, though... As you might have assumed already, his CM9 KANG's were the fastest CM9 builds at the time, yeah
droid_<3er said:
CM7 is only good for certain games, like Skies of Glory. It's not the fastest ROM.
MIUI and WIUI aren't fast in any way. I don't know what you're talking about.
CM9 is slow, but Moto Ice Gun and Defy+++ are all very fast. They are based off of Quarx's
CM9 builds and have V6 supercharger and kickass kernelizer. I have no idea if Bravia Engine is just
a placebo effect or not.
CM10 is fastest for games, but doesn't mean that all games are compatible with it. Regular performance
isn't that great.
Stock froyo and GB are good for games, surprisingly. try CEE Deblur 3.4.2-179 or 4.5.1-134 DFP 231
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It seems that you are only talking about gaming performance, so I don't get the point of your question.
Why I said that Pikachu MIUI was the fastest ever for me - no redraws of anything at anytime, instant start of any app, multitasking at its best (music playing in the background, playing a HD game, while switching to messaging and then back to the game without it reloading)... Stuff like that. I was really truly happy with my phone at that time, it looked awesome and worked great. Then ICS and JB showed up and now I just can't live without all those tiny new features :/ I miss Pikachu, nevertheless.
Thank you very much for the info!
The most stable rom and pretty fast out there is MS2Ginger 4.0
It even includes 720p video rec!
Suggesting a good rom for Defy
Most of the best roms have come out of either Epsylon3 or Quarx... so they are the best developers... Apart from their good roms..
If you want GB - WIUI GB (v2.5.27)is the best according to me, great looks, customization, smooth... (based on MIUI) by Wajk
if you want ICS - JIUI4 / WIUI 4 equally good for reasons same as above... by Janeindiran / Wajk... Also try Moto Ice Gun(stopped updates??) / Paranoid Android ICS... by Brajesh Sharma...
if you want JB - I would suggest Paranoid Android... the latest version i guess... I am on version 1.992 downloading the 2.0 version... pretty neat i must say.... by Brajesh Sharma...
Having said that, you will need to explore and find which one suits you the most...
fastest and best looking rom i have ever used on the defy is the white rabbit. based on cm7 kang but it has the go launcher installed by default so it looks very cool and there are loads of free themes available in the market so you can customise it so it is exactly how you want it. it also has a few nice extra apps installed that help with keeping the rom up to date. honestly i have been blown away and have had no force closes or issues. it is also very quick and everything just feels pretty damn snappy with most apps opening in a second or less.
i would avoid cm10. i tried it and is was a lag fest. dont get me wrong it looked great and for a port it is very impressive but it is slow with apps taking an age to open even after i had disabled virtually every app from the hwa settings. bottom line is the defy is old and the hardware was far from high end even when it was released so we cant expect miracles.
anyways that is my experience and others may have found cm10 to be perfectly useable. i didnt though and therefore cant recommend it. try the white rabbit... whats the worst that can happen... you dont like it and have to try something else... so what 5 minutes of your time maybe ten at a push.
Try Mokee last version
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the new quarx cm 10 nightlies are very good
cm9
I never installed a lot of roms for Defy, but i tried this CM9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
and is pretty fast and stable, everything works fine.
but i will try some of roms posted here and give my feedback
Thanks, I'm going to try out white rabbit.
Because of the controversy and arguments they inevitably generate, "best ROM" threads are prohibited on XDA. Thread closed.
Hi there, I have a Defy and have been into flashing and CFWs for a long time. I love custom ROMs and stuff, and don't mind dealing with bugs or features missing to have an updated Android version on my phone. Question is, a friend of mine, who has a Defy+, wants to revamp her phone. She says it's buggy, sluggish and stuff on her 2.3 stock. So, I'd like to know you guys' opinion on the best ROM for "usual people"? I've been thinking of installing CM9 on her phone, since it gives all 4.x goodies without the cost of having Google Now eating up our phone's CPU and RAM (that's what has been happening with mine on CM10.1), and MS2Ginger might be a good option, too, but I think she won't be happy with a 2.3 ROM, since she wants to get rid of Gingerbread. Anyway, I'd like to hear your suggestions.
Thanks in advance
CM9 the way to go
I would have said CM7.2 or MS2ginger, but I didn't read the post fully:laugh:
Yes, I would recommend CM9/9.1, which is stable enough for daily use by an average joe. Everythings working fine (except maybe Wi-Fi tethering). But which dev's build, that's upto you.
hotdog125 said:
I would have said CM7.2 or MS2ginger, but I didn't read the post fully:laugh:
Yes, I would recommend CM9/9.1, which is stable enough for daily use by an average joe. Everythings working fine (except maybe Wi-Fi tethering). But which dev's build, that's upto you.
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Yeah, I'm divided exactly between MS2Ginger or CM9. I think MS2Ginger is stable, fast and offers nice features (like 720p recording), but 2.3 is jut too outdated by now (plus, my friend has a Defy+ and wants something better than stock GB, and I think putting even a highly customized GB on her phone will give a reverse-placebo effect: she'll ignore most of the performance improvements because the Android version is the same). CM9 seems to be OK, though, but i'll have to check on this "different devs" issue (I didn't even remember this issue existed, I've had Quarx's CM10/10.1 in my Defy for a loooong time now, since all features were useable).
Actually Epsylon's and Quarx's CM9 builds are almost the same, though it seems Epsylon stopped developing for the defy.
Epsylon added the 2ndboot feature in his CM9