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hello all i have a nookcolor running cm7, i didnt really want to ask this question cause i no it has been asked alot, i searched and didnt really find a clear answers, so ill ask this one time and save this link from here on out so here it goes... what is a safe cpu speed when you oc the nook? how do you figure out what is a safe speed? the max,min and the goveners to choose? thank you all!
Hi! I thought that this would be a great place for my first post. I've been running CM7 for 8 or so months from an 8gb uSD card. I had my settings on 300mhz min and 1.1ghz max. I've heard of people running at 1.2ghz with no problems and others who had to clock down to 1.1 for stability.
I've since switched to CM9 and I love it so far! I have been trying 1.2 for a while and have had no issues. ymmv
As far as the gov, I use "conservative" for the battery life. "Performance" would be better for speed, "on demand" is a compromise between the two, I think. "Interactive" I have no idea about!
EDIT: There is a good explanation here in the first post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843406
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Welcolme michas! got your first post and thanks great info i will do the same to mine, i was running nightly ics but decided to go back to cm7 until ics is stable, thanks for the info and link
Hey hackers,
I need to pick a rom for my TF101. My tablet has been running a little slow and a little choppy, so I'm thinking it's the rom. I'm currently running cm10. I'm thinking Revolver or Revolution would be the best for performance and speed - would one of these be a good choice?
eaglesbaby said:
Hey hackers,
I need to pick a rom for my TF101. My tablet has been running a little slow and a little choppy, so I'm thinking it's the rom. I'm currently running cm10. I'm thinking Revolver or Revolution would be the best for performance and speed - would one of these be a good choice?
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Well ive flashed them all lol and CM10 is by a long way the fastest (equal with JB AOSP but more stable) both Revolver and Revolution are about the same as far performance goes, I prefer Revolver for ICS roms but is still much less performance the cm10. Ive found CM10 to be a little choppy with the stock launcher, Apex is much better might be worth trying that before flashing another rom.
Thanks for the tip about the launcher and other roms. Tried apex - it was awful, actually I'll let you know what happens with some other roms.
Revolver ICS runs great but CM10 is improving everyday.
Sent from my HTC Droid Incredible
Which CM10 rom are you running? There's a few out now and not all run the same. If it's the RaymanFX CM10 then I'd be suprised you're having performance issues.
Speaking of which, did you overclock at all? A little boost to the CPU speed can make a world of difference. Depending on your tablet, however, you may experience some crashing if you push it too hard. 1.2 to 1.4 GHz seems to be the sweet spot for most people.
AnTuTu CPU Master (Free) is what I use. I've set it to 1600Mhz with smartassV2 scaling and the sio I/O scheduler. My tablet reacts to overclocking very well though so your mileage may vary.
grgmre said:
Which CM10 rom are you running? There's a few out now and not all run the same. If it's the RaymanFX CM10 then I'd be suprised you're having performance issues.
Speaking of which, did you overclock at all? A little boost to the CPU speed can make a world of difference. Depending on your tablet, however, you may experience some crashing if you push it too hard. 1.2 to 1.4 GHz seems to be the sweet spot for most people.
AnTuTu CPU Master (Free) is what I use. I've set it to 1600Mhz with smartassV2 scaling and the sio I/O scheduler. My tablet reacts to overclocking very well though so your mileage may vary.
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I was running a nightly version. I switched to Revolver - it's much smoother. I woud say it's running perfectly but I don't want to jinx myself.
eaglesbaby said:
I was running a nightly version. I switched to Revolver - it's much smoother. I woud say it's running perfectly but I don't want to jinx myself.
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There's your problem with cm10 lol you need to give RaymanFX's cm10 a try. Ive gone from Revolver to RaymanFX's cm10 and the performance increase is amazing.
Is the download link up? I only see the kernel. Do i need to flash the kernel separately? I'm a little confused.
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eaglesbaby said:
Is the download link up? I only see the kernel. Do i need to flash the kernel separately? I'm a little confused.
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Yeah heres the link: (http://goo.im/devs/RaymanFX/downloads/CyanogenMod-10/cm_tf101-b2.zip) it comes with a kernel but you can alternatively flash the K.A.T kernel that fixes a few issues with JB roms, I haven't tho
Thanks so much.
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i agree i tryed the raymans cm 10 v1 and 2.. fast.. smooth..then i tryed v6 from him.. and it seemed to lag.. maybe ill try it again..and that link is v2.. try the v6
i only left that rom cuz of 2 widgets that i like alot wont work.. a wifi widget.. and asus clock/weather widget... im such a noob
eaglesbaby said:
Hey hackers,
I need to pick a rom for my TF101. My tablet has been running a little slow and a little choppy, so I'm thinking it's the rom. I'm currently running cm10. I'm thinking Revolver or Revolution would be the best for performance and speed - would one of these be a good choice?
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V7 CM10 seems to work well for me.
TeamEOS is my ROM of choice.
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Newest Team EOS with Kat Kernal overclocked to 1400mhz is very smooth for me.
EOS with Elite kernel.
IT has best benchmark so far .
eaglesbaby said:
Hey hackers,
I need to pick a rom for my TF101. My tablet has been running a little slow and a little choppy, so I'm thinking it's the rom. I'm currently running cm10. I'm thinking Revolver or Revolution would be the best for performance and speed - would one of these be a good choice?
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Reinstall CM10. It should be blazing fast already.
I use rayman's Cm10 V7 (V6 was fine too) + KatKernel 70 and it is super fast
f4kill said:
I use rayman's Cm10 V7 (V6 was fine too) + KatKernel 70 and it is super fast
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Where are you getting v7 from? V6 only online for me.
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If you dont mind running nightliess ... RaymanFX's CM10.1 OC @ 1.6Ghz, not having any issues on my part running the nightlies, stable version is coming soon
I make this thread Instead of having a constant discussion about kernels in the SentinelROM v4.50-CM10.1 thread.
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2037363
So when someone ask about kernel in that thread, just link this.
Sentinel196 works hard on his rom and kernel, so why do you change kernel and what kernel did you change to?
What settings do you use?
What app do you use?
Do you play games?
Are you a casual user?
Other?
I´m new to this rom so i´m going to try it completely untouched for at least a week before changing anything.
So that i get a good feel for the performance and battery.
These are good for battery life.
Greenify *ROOT*
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
CPU Spy Plus
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5idmFsb3Nlay5jcHVzcHkucmVhbGdwcCJd
Wakelock detector
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS51enVtYXBwcy53YWtlbG9ja2RldGVjdG9yIl0.
Tesla said:
I make this thread Instead of having a constant discussion about kernels in the SentinelROM v4.50-CM10.1 thread.
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2037363
So when someone ask about kernel in that thread, just link this.
Sentinel196 works hard on his rom and kernel, so why do you change kernel and what kernel did you change to?
What settings do you use?
What app do you use?
Do you play games?
Are you a casual user?
Other?
I´m new to this rom so i´m going to try it completely untouched for at least a week before changing anything.
So that i get a good feel for the performance and battery.
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Guys can someone confirm if they can get most wanted to work properly without crashing and also real racing 3
?
Kept crashing on me
Rush85 v4 and v5 worked on other games like nova3 etc.
Sentinel kernel that came with rom gave me artificacts and crashes on games
If these issues are fixed then I would definitely want to come back to sentinel rom
Regards
Hey !
I have made some configurations for pegasusq governor. This is incredibly fast for CM based kernel !
(I use Trickster Mod )
I will test battery life
DvWatt said:
Hey !
I have made some configurations for pegasusq governor. This is incredibly fast for CM based kernel !
(I use Trickster Mod )
I will test battery life
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can you test NFS Most wanted and real racing 3 to see if they work with the kernel?
Real Racing 3 works ok ! I'm going to test Need For Speed
EDIT : Works ok !
Nice to see you posting here :good:
I don´t play games my self on my phone, what i need is good idle and screen time.
But a lot of users do, so nice to see you share
N.O.V.A 3 crash with Cyanogen Mod 10.1 and Dorimanx 9.17 , time to try with Sentinel
Used Stock Sentinel Kernel for a while (with Performance governor, i really don't care bout battery ) & felt phone smooth.
Changed to Siyah v4 by Rush ( Curiosity, u see ) & overclocked to 1.4Ghz with Conservative coz for some reason, conservative gave more smoothness than performance .. & phone never felt more smooth :fingers-crossed:
& oh yeah, post 3-4 charging cycles, m gettin 4.5+ hours of screen time with WiFi on most of the time. So m gonna stick to siyah & sentinel for a looong loong time
parry.87 said:
Used Stock Sentinel Kernel for a while (with Performance governor, i really don't care bout battery ) & felt phone smooth.
Changed to Siyah v4 by Rush ( Curiosity, u see ) & overclocked to 1.4Ghz with Conservative coz for some reason, conservative gave more smoothness than performance .. & phone never felt more smooth :fingers-crossed:
& oh yeah, post 3-4 charging cycles, m gettin 4.5+ hours of screen time with WiFi on most of the time. So m gonna stick to siyah & sentinel for a looong loong time
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+1.just trying your setting and the rom is awesome. Thanks for your feedback.
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Hi all,
I'm testing the Sentinel rom with the kernel of Slim Bean, for now I'm watching more stability and smoothness.
I have not tested the battery.
@funkateer2, Glad to have Helped you Buddy
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thiagox said:
Hi all,
I'm testing the Sentinel rom with the kernel of Slim Bean, for now I'm watching more stability and smoothness.
I have not tested the battery.
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Interesting
But.. more stability and smoothness? Was it unstable for you and not as smooth as default kernel?
I find that hard to believe.
Tesla said:
Interesting
But.. more stability and smoothness? Was it unstable for you and not as smooth as default kernel?
I find that hard to believe.
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The latest build of SlimBean (5.5-WEEKLY) is very good. With her, I reached more or less 3800 points in Quadrant Standard.
With the Sentinel, I reached around 3100-3300 points.
With Sentinel + Slim Kernel I reached around 3400-3500 points, even that little thing, already demonstrates some improvement.:good:
@thiagox
Ah, you are talking about benchmark.
Whats that got to do with stability and smoothness?
Stability is no fc, no reboots, no hangs.
Smoothness is an overall performance with no lagg/stuttering.
Tesla said:
@thiagox
Ah, you are talking about benchmark.
Whats that got to do with stability and smoothness?
Stability is no fc, no reboots, no hangs.
Smoothness is an overall performance with no lagg/stuttering.
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Really man, I messed up. I traded stability for performance, my apologies!
...or it is impossible without Samsung support?
They already do. 4.3 does a great job.
Elvecio said:
...or it is impossible without Samsung support?
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I am not sure. I flashed the latest Resurrection Remix ROM and the battery life was a lot worse than TW.
My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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For me Samsung roms are far more effective.
On CM based roms, i get max 2/3 days with my usage, while on Samsung roms i can get 6 days (once got 7 days of juice )
wtr_dhd said:
My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Thor Kernel gives better battery life than stock SlimBean?
My experience with PA 3.65 based on AOSP was mediocre in terms of battery life. I certainly love it much, much more than TW but I certainly couldn't justify keeping that ROM since it was pretty average with respect to battery. It wasn't like ridiculously bad but certainly 25-30% lesser than what stock TW usually gives me and hence I had to sadly move back to a TW based custom ROM. I am hopeful that eventually AOSP will get closer to TW in terms of battery life because in every other sense I find it better.
I was too upset to see the terrible battery life on Aosp. Only thing that keeps me away from them.
Don't know why they can't match up tw in terms of battery life.
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OmegaBlaze said:
They already do. 4.3 does a great job.
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I'm on cyano official 10.2 and battery life is quite decent but far from the Samsung roms. But I love cyano, and I think that the more drain is worthy.
wtr_dhd said:
My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Why thor kernel is banned?
It is really good as you said?
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They already do.
Elvecio said:
...or it is impossible without Samsung support?
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On CM 10.2 or PA 3.99 I use SetCPU to create 3 profiles;
1) Screen off, max CPU=400, Governor=conservative
2) On call state, Max CPU= 500, governor= the same as the ROM
3) battery< %10, Max CPU=1000, Governor= the same as the ROM
One more thing; I don't think Samsung gives the same effort on giving a smooth experience and I don't think it is about bad software. I think the software is well-coded to perform efficiently but the CPU jump is tuned to be lower and slower intentionally. So it gives some choppiness compared to CM or any AOSP ROM but it also saves some energy from the CPU (or GPU at certain times)..
Basicly speed comes with cunsumption
_delice_doluca_ said:
On CM 10.2 or PA 3.99 I use SetCPU to create 3 profiles;
1) Screen off, max CPU=400, Governor=conservative
2) On call state, Max CPU= 500, governor= the same as the ROM
3) battery< %10, Max CPU=1000, Governor= the same as the ROM
One more thing; I don't think Samsung gives the same effort on giving a smooth experience and I don't think it is about bad software. I think the software is well-coded to perform efficiently but the CPU jump is tuned to be lower and slower intentionally. So it gives some choppiness compared to CM or any AOSP ROM but it also saves some energy from the CPU (or GPU at certain times)..
Basicly speed comes with cunsumption
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Thanks. I applied all your settings and i set zzmoove as default governor (seems that is more battery friendly than pegasusq).
The story that you said about sammy roms is embarassing. I had an iPhone 4 before my Note 2 and it was completely smooth with a downclocked single core 1 ghz cpu. And battery life was pretty decent. I can't believe that android need so much power.
So, we can assume that all the other smartphone with great battery life (razr maxx, droid maxx, lg g2....) have choppy ui? I think (and i hope) that is related just to the optimization. Maybe samsung is not able to optimize the Touchwiz and prefers the Jeremy-Clarckson approach of "YEAAH, MORE POWER".
Elvecio said:
Thanks. I applied all your settings and i set zzmoove as default governor (seems that is more battery friendly than pegasusq).
The story that you said about sammy roms is embarassing. I had an iPhone 4 before my Note 2 and it was completely smooth with a downclocked single core 1 ghz cpu. And battery life was pretty decent. I can't believe that android need so much power.
So, we can assume that all the other smartphone with great battery life (razr maxx, droid maxx, lg g2....) have choppy ui? I think (and i hope) that is related just to the optimization. Maybe samsung is not able to optimize the Touchwiz and prefers the Jeremy-Clarckson approach of "YEAAH, MORE POWER".
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No. We can't assume such thing. Mine was just an assumption only for Note2/S3 Touchwiz vs AOSP.
Besides iPhone 4 is not downclocked, it has just a very high treshold for the last step (1GHz) so it comes into play very little. I remember such thing for dual core Sammy devices (or was it One X, poor memory of mine) from a kernel developer. He/she had tuned the kernel with very high tresholds for 800MHz and 1200MHz so the device was going easily 800 MHz but waiting there until there is huge load of porccesses and then jumping to higher clocks. So that waiting time on a stable was saving some battery and heat since the higher coltages are less efficient for both the battery and heating..
One more thing; the smoothness of an iPhone is not related to its CPU, it is all about the GPU which used to be higher than any same generation Android device until recently..
_delice_doluca_ said:
No. We can't assume such thing. Mine was just an assumption only for Note2/S3 Touchwiz vs AOSP.
Besides iPhone 4 is not downclocked, it has just a very high treshold for the last step (1GHz) so it comes into play very little. I remember such thing for dual core Sammy devices (or was it One X, poor memory of mine) from a kernel developer. He/she had tuned the kernel with very high tresholds for 800MHz and 1200MHz so the device was going easily 800 MHz but waiting there until there is huge load of porccesses and then jumping to higher clocks. So that waiting time on a stable was saving some battery and heat since the higher coltages are less efficient for both the battery and heating..
One more thing; the smoothness of an iPhone is not related to its CPU, it is all about the GPU which used to be higher than any same generation Android device until recently..
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Thanks for the interesting reply.
Anyway, I've tried the parameters that you said, but on cm 10.2 the phone freezes in a black screen when is locked. Seems that I solved with a simple step up from 400 to 500 mhz when display is off. Just a report for the users that are reading this
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ive never been able to get good overnight idle drain stats. with TW roms i would lose 3-4% per 8 hrs but aosp i can lose about 12-15%. this is with all sync off
wtr_dhd said:
My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Did you try thor kernel with slimbean? When I flashed it the phone didnt boot, was still on black screen. I flashed aokp-n7100-0.25 version, thx!
majko11293 said:
Did you try thor kernel with slimbean? When I flashed it the phone didnt boot, was still on black screen. I flashed aokp-n7100-0.25 version, thx!
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Why there is no Thor kernel in XDA? Or have my eyes missed it?
please visit Thors own site - Tegra owners.
if you are a lover of android then your experience cannot be complete without experiencing his 'touch' and you need to read through the threads there - his kernels just dont work without following his instructions.
Thread closed as it has already turned into a best rom/kernel thread. It appears that the question has been answered anyways.
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Hey guys,
So I recently restored to stock rom and I spotted that the gaming performance is a lot better and faster than CM-based and AOSP-based ROMs
So I am letting you guys to tell your answer why in this thread, so reply down below to tell your answer, as it's very appreciated!
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I kinda doubt that. TW roms have DVFS that reduces performance if the phone gets too hot.
The only reason why it would be better is due to better software-hardware compatibility.
I saw people mentioning that TW has better hardware acceleration. This may be due to the aforementioned better software-hardware compatibility.
If this is the case, GPE roms might also have better performance, since they were also built by Samsung, they might use the same drivers.
May be you had used cm rom on balance battery mod
irfanbd94 said:
May be you had used cm rom on balance battery mod
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Usally in CM and CM-based ROMs,
This mode is selected by default
But did you saw a increase in gaming performance when you chose performance mode?
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GDReaper said:
I kinda doubt that. TW roms have DVFS that reduces performance if the phone gets too hot.
The only reason why it would be better is due to better software-hardware compatibility.
I saw people mentioning that TW has better hardware acceleration. This may be due to the aforementioned better software-hardware compatibility.
If this is the case, GPE roms might also have better performance, since they were also built by Samsung, they might use the same drivers.
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Wait, so you are saying that the drivers in CM are made by CM? Not Samsung?
If it was, that makes so much sense right now
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vbajs said:
Wait, so you are saying that the drivers in CM are made by CM? Not Samsung?
If it was, that makes so much sense right now
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Yes that's the whole point of CM being open source.
Though I doubt that TW will give you better performance on our device due to the standard throttling on stock roms.
vbajs said:
Usally in CM and CM-based ROMs,
This mode is selected by default
But did you saw a increase in gaming performance when you chose performance mode?
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Yes performance mod increase gaming performance.....But i am using official TW rom always.....bucause with tw rom i got better battery life,camera,display colour/graphics.....and similar gaming performance if unnecessary system app removed.
irfanbd94 said:
Yes performance mod increase gaming performance.....But i am using official TW rom always.....bucause with tw rom i got batter battery life,camera,display colour/graphics.....and similar gaming performance if unnecessary system app removed.
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Ok, since performance mode in settings>battery increases gaming performance,
what if that performance mode enables that stock throttling from the stock rom? And the balance mode just disables that?
Can anyone confirm?
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vbajs said:
Ok, since performance mode in settings>battery increases gaming performance,
what if that performance mode enables that stock throttling from the stock rom? And the balance mode just disables that?
Can anyone confirm?
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Performance mode, as far as I know, just changed the CPU governor to the Performance governor. I don't know if it actually does anything else. Battery mode changes the governor to conservative and balanced changes it to interactive.
As far as the drivers go, all of the are based on the source code released by Qualcomm on the Code Aurora Forums (CAF). That's the starting point. From there, OEMs take the source code and modify it accordingly. CM also builds from there, but they might not spend as much time optimizing the driver's as OEMs probably do.
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Performance mode, as far as I know, just changed the CPU governor to the Performance governor. I don't know if it actually does anything else. Battery mode changes the governor to conservative and balanced changes it to interactive.
As far as the drivers go, all of the are based on the source code released by Qualcomm on the Code Aurora Forums (CAF). That's the starting point. From there, OEMs take the source code and modify it accordingly. CM also builds from there, but they might not spend as much time optimizing the driver's as OEMs probably do.
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I think now I get what you mean because have JDCteam dropped their optimized CM13, the gaming performance is way a lot better than normal CM13
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