Hi guys..
I'm not very sure if i shud be posting in the Dev section but this is an important topic and this is the easiest way I could get attention of the developers...
After my note 1 being stolen, i was thinking of ways of making the phone theft proof.
And I came up witha few things.
1. Prevent phone from being switched off with the power button withouta password
2. Prevent factory reset withouta password
3. Prevent recovery or download mode withouta password.
I'm d sure if these things can sine how be implemented then or note 2 will be theft proof.
Its all upto the devs now
Moderator please don't delete this...its serious matter.
it's also not a dev discussion topic. thread moved.
I have Android Locator Pro, so if someone gets my unlock code wrong, it takes a picture of them and emails it to me with their location.
RambJoe said:
I have Android Locator Pro, so if someone gets my unlock code wrong, it takes a picture of them and emails it to me with their location.
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if they are connected to internet...:cyclops:
mayank_nigam said:
Hi guys..
I'm not very sure if i shud be posting in the Dev section but this is an important topic and this is the easiest way I could get attention of the developers...
After my note 1 being stolen, i was thinking of ways of making the phone theft proof.
And I came up witha few things.
1. Prevent phone from being switched off with the power button withouta password
2. Prevent factory reset withouta password
3. Prevent recovery or download mode withouta password.
I'm d sure if these things can sine how be implemented then or note 2 will be theft proof.
Its all upto the devs now
Moderator please don't delete this...its serious matter.
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Avast! Anti-theft (free, play store) does 1 and 2, pretty sure it does 3 too.
People would just take battery out. Perhaps a dev can give you some super glue to stick the back cover on?
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nyda83 said:
if they are connected to internet...:cyclops:
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They wouldn't be able to disconnect it from HSPA+ without the unlocking the phone though.
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I always thought about putting a sort of chip in the phone that can makes a lot of noise if a button is pressed on a telecomand lol.
I dont know if that is possible to do, I'm not really good with electronics stuff.
this would work if you're in a certain area of the incident
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Avast! Anti-theft (free, play store) does 1 and 2, pretty sure it does 3 too.
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I also have avast... but you can get around it by putting new ROM from odin
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daz_2000 said:
People would just take battery out. Perhaps a dev can give you some super glue to stick the back cover on?
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Are you a retard?
The thief would certainly freak out if he tries to switch off the phone and it won't shut down...
It could be of some help, but putting a password to enter download mode is fool proof! If only someone could do it!
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mayank_nigam said:
I also have avast... but you can get around it by putting new ROM from odin
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Implementing password protection to enter download mode OR CWM totally covers all aspect and even if you dun get the phone back the thief cannot use the phone.
antt00 said:
Implementing password protection to enter download mode OR CWM totally covers all aspect and even if you dun get the phone back the thief cannot use the phone.
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And what would be the fail safe? Everything needs a fail safe. Consider that something gets corrupted and the recovery password doesn't work anymore.
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out of the 3 suggestions, the 1st one is ridiculous. so a normal user has to input a password everytime he wants to turn the phone off? that'll do wonders for the batt life...
and doing all these things won't make it theft proof.. you can still steal it but you can't use it. being theft proof is like james bond's gun, if someone else other than the user uses it, it doesn't work or self destructs and blows the user's hand off.. now that's what I call "theft proof". :good::laugh:
Avast anti theft is good. They put an app in your rom, you will need root access though. When u insert an unregistered sim card (not registered with avast app) the phone will be locked with loud sirens which u cannot stop unless u switch off the phone. Rendering it useless.
Tough luck if u removed avast av. Need to let the sirens sound whole the app downloads, enter your preselected pin chide and choose register sim. Viola!
Tested with my pervious phone the Motorola RAZR. Works like a charm. Still there after flashing roms.
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mayank_nigam said:
Are you a retard?
The thief would certainly freak out if he tries to switch off the phone and it won't shut down...
It could be of some help, but putting a password to enter download mode is fool proof! If only someone could do it!
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No need to personally attack someone, especially insinuating they are mentally deficiant. His point is actually very valid. You can lock the reboot menu, lock screen, etc. You cannot stop someone from pulling out the battery. You can also not stop them going to download mode. From my understanding, alterations to download mode would require alterations from Samsung themself as it loads without even ROM on your device, so no rom developers could impliment any changes in download mode.
So what can you do? As was suggested, Avast anti-theft does most of it, and, hope the person stealing your phone has no idea about download mode. Or a theif on a budget that doesn't own a PC.
You cannot lock download mode, as the sbl is signed... you could add a password to recovery if you decided to write a recovery that did this...
But that's pointless as you can flash from the unprotected download mode...
This is a situation that happens a lot, where users think they know what they want, but developers know what's possible.
Passwords to turn off are silly-these phones have a hardware interrupt when you hold down the power key... you can't stop that... you could also simply remove the battery...
mayank_nigam said:
Are you a retard?
The thief would certainly freak out if he tries to switch off the phone and it won't shut down...
It could be of some help, but putting a password to enter download mode is fool proof! If only someone could do it!
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Looks like you're the retard!
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B3311 said:
Avast! Anti-theft (free, play store) does 1 and 2, pretty sure it does 3 too.
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And it drains a lot of Juice. Used it for about 2 Weeks and removed due to high Battery consumption. The before mentioned Androidlocator is a bit more peaceable
Here you go... if you're rooted you can even flash the program so that it will survive a system restore. Only way to remove it is to flash a different ROM. You can hide the program and you can even locate the phone without it having an Internet connection. You can also remotely wipe the phone, take screenshots of it, take picture with the camera, record audio, check call/sms log etc without the thief knowing it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus
Brgds... /Tubgirl
mayank_nigam said:
Are you a retard?
The thief would certainly freak out if he tries to switch off the phone and it won't shut down...
It could be of some help, but putting a password to enter download mode is fool proof! If only someone could do it!
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lol you definitely didnt get it, talking bs for nothin
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Some people say android phones can get viruses and some people say they can't. So anyone know? Should I get a anti virus?
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I've never heard of a virus for android. If you want, lookout mobile is free and has AV, plus backup, plus the ability to locate your phone. I use it, but ONLY for the find my phone feature. I used to have it do AV, but I just didnt see the point. Your call.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/lookout-mobile-security/com.lookout
Just search google for:
Android trojan
You will have the reason you seek.
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^ REALLY?!?!
Because all you get is "FIRST sms trojan" from just a few months ago... and who clicks links in text messages from people they don't know? Common sense.
AV will contribute to battery drain without any real benefit.
My phone is backed up with
Titanium because I like a one click restore
App Control because I like to keep multiple versions of my stuff and reload on the fly
Nandroid because I flash my phone as often as I flash my wife
All of which have been backed up to my home Network and if I get hit well I'll just reload. To me the price of having my phone scan every file when it loads or when I add something isn't worth the realestate the app takes up in my phones memory.
Honestly people who spread the fear of Viruses are those that create virus's and market their software to rid them. Bad, Bad tactics and honesly they are no worse than a shady Used Care Salesman or a high pressure Time Share Salesman.
I'm not saying the OP is a Salesman, but those that preach it are.
What I can tell you is have fun updating all in market, it will slow your phone down to a crawl.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
mikey7436 said:
Some people say android phones can get viruses and some people say they can't. So anyone know? Should I get a anti virus?
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short answer: no.
What I think is not the virus, but the apps keep sending data to somewhere
I use lookout but often question whether it really does anything besides giving you the ability to locate your phone if it gets stolen. Basically, don't click on messages from people you don't know, stay away from sites that your anti-virus on your home machine warns you about and don't install warez and you should be fine.
No need y'all, waist of space, money and time... If it ever happened hard reset our flash a rom lol...
Forget about it...
funeralthirst said:
short answer: no.
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The CORRECT answer is yes, ot course it *can* get a virus, but it is very unlikely. Now, regarding the spyware - that's a very different discussion....
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Simple Easy Way To Make Sure You Don't Get Viruses..Don't Go To Porn... Lol Jk
But For Real Just Make Sure You Download Your Apps From The Market And You Should Have No Problem
dbacchus said:
The CORRECT answer is yes, ot course it *can* get a virus, but it is very unlikely. Now, regarding the spyware - that's a very different discussion....
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lolololol. anything, including your car's ecu *can* get a virus. will it?
and spyware? come on. what, do you have some anti-spyware app you need to sell? lol..
Set your iPhone to require a four-digit passcode, and it may keep your private information safe from the prying eyes of the taxi driver whose cab you forget it in. But if law enforcement is determined to see the data you’ve stored on your smartphone, those four digits will slow down the process of accessing it by less than two minutes.
Here’s a video posted last week by Micro Systemation, a Stockholm, Sweden-based firm that sells law enforcement and military customers the tools to access the devices of criminal suspects or military detainees and siphon off their personal information.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygre...ment-cracks-your-iphones-security-code-video/
That is scary as heck. Good share of info. Wow. The video is a must watch.
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So how do they bypass fingerprint? That's my main reason for getting the atrix, can't crack a fingerprint. Interesting tho.
Pass code
pre4speed said:
So how do they bypass fingerprint? That's my main reason for getting the atrix, can't crack a fingerprint. Interesting tho.
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That was my first thought until I remembered that the fingerprint is backed up by a 4 digit pass code. So I guess they could walk right through the Atrix 4G just as easily as any other phone. Oh well......
The video has been deleted What was on it?
Also, your phone locks out and requires your google account password to unlock if the passcode has been entered incorrectly 20 times.
Do you reckon they can get past face unlock as well
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v.k said:
The video has been deleted What was on it?
Also, your phone locks out and requires your google account password to unlock if the passcode has been entered incorrectly 20 times.
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Google helped develop the software. What about freezing USB x.x.x with TiBu?
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If they want what's on it, they are going to get it, no matter how much security you think you have! Passcodes, FP reader, etc., are meant to protect from the regular Joe Blow user who rips off or finds your phone. If the military, law enforcement, etc., need to access your info and you want to stop them, you better go for the highest level of encryption you can find, and even then it's only a matter of time before they crack it and get in to your data.
This is why we need encryption. Really need to port truecrypt on Android...
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Just don't loose your phone..
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andrew.cambridge said:
Just don't loose your phone..
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Klever
10 char.
CaelanT said:
If they want what's on it, they are going to get it, no matter how much security you think you have! Passcodes, FP reader, etc., are meant to protect from the regular Joe Blow user who rips off or finds your phone. If the military, law enforcement, etc., need to access your info and you want to stop them, you better go for the highest level of encryption you can find, and even then it's only a matter of time before they crack it and get in to your data.
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read an article about a lady who had used some encryption software on her computer. it's encryption software that's available to the public.
anyhow, the cops couldn't get into her files without her password nor could their techs. so they tried getting her to divulge her password through legal manners. however, due to the right against self incrimination, this ruling was, of course, appealed and it turned into this whole fiasco regarding individuals' rights.
so the cops can't always get into someone's stuff.
smsparks said:
That was my first thought until I remembered that the fingerprint is backed up by a 4 digit pass code. So I guess they could walk right through the Atrix 4G just as easily as any other phone. Oh well......
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Only on blur based roms. I'm on cm7 which has no 4 digit backup code. If you mess up enough times, it prompts for your gmail credentials. Can't fake that either.
ifalldownalot said:
read an article about a lady who had used some encryption software on her computer. it's encryption software that's available to the public.
anyhow, the cops couldn't get into her files without her password nor could their techs. so they tried getting her to divulge her password through legal manners. however, due to the right against self incrimination, this ruling was, of course, appealed and it turned into this whole fiasco regarding individuals' rights.
so the cops can't always get into someone's stuff.
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That lady's laptop finally got decrypted without her consent. They forcefully decrypted.
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Only on blur based roms. I'm on cm7 which has no 4 digit backup code. If you mess up enough times, it prompts for your gmail credentials. Can't fake that either.
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Another layer is two. Step verification. That works till google is on your side.
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drpratik said:
That lady's laptop finally got decrypted without her consent. They forcefully decrypted.
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shweet. thanks for that conclusion. always wondered what happened and I could not find that article again.
If someone has physical access, there is nothing that can stop them.
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If someone has physical access, there is nothing that can stop them.
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so true.
after i saw that xry video of swedish agency helping police with all this stuff.
its confirmed beyond belief that all devices can be cracked off within minutes.
another intriguing thing ,
why no mentions of windows phone 7 and blackberry devices?
aren't they crackable?
only devices which are demoed are android and iphone.
If it's that serious install an app that can delete data remotely. They can eventually crack it yes, but can they crack it before your phone call?
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I thought I read an article about law enforcement calling Google for help to crack an Android pattern lock...
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I'd like to install an anti theft app on my n7. I've got Where's My Droid on my phone, but the thing is, the nexus doesn't have a data signal to access its GPS location at the drop of a dime.... it would only be able to be tracked if it is currently connected to WiFi, right? If it wasn't connected to WiFi then there would be no way to track it that I can think of. Anyways, what are some good anti theft apps that you guys are using?
Another question, has any used Tablet Talk, or so,etching similar? Its an app that sync your phone and tablet together which allows text messages to be sent front your nexus, but it uses your mobile number. Are there any other apps out there like this? Would really love to hear about some experiences with Tablet Talk or similar apps so I know what I should purchase. Thanks in advance.
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Cerberus. Paid, but worth it. Got my SGS2 back with it.
thcaddict said:
I'd like to install an anti theft app on my n7. I've got Where's My Droid on my phone, but the thing is, the nexus doesn't have a data signal to access its GPS location at the drop of a dime.... it would only be able to be tracked if it is currently connected to WiFi, right? If it wasn't connected to WiFi then there would be no way to track it that I can think of. Anyways, what are some good anti theft apps that you guys are using?
Another question, has any used Tablet Talk, or so,etching similar? Its an app that sync your phone and tablet together which allows text messages to be sent front your nexus, but it uses your mobile number. Are there any other apps out there like this? Would really love to hear about some experiences with Tablet Talk or similar apps so I know what I should purchase. Thanks in advance.
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i was using Lookout (and disabled the anti-virus stuff), but i believe most people prefer Cerberus...i think it's $3 in GP right now. check out some demos/reviews on youtube.
frescagod said:
i was using Lookout (and disabled the anti-virus stuff), but i believe most people prefer Cerberus...i think it's $3 in GP right now. check out some demos/reviews on youtube.
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What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
Danny80y said:
What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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You're giving the common criminal too much credit. Most of the time these people are looking to sell it for a few dollars.
Danny80y said:
What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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You can install Cerberus as a system app and it will withstand a factory reset. However, if they decide to flash a new ROM you are screwed. But you are pretty much right about once you lose it is is gone since it has to be connected to WiFi to send back data.
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I have Cerberus.. but it most likely will be useless... unless it is taken like at work where I already have Wi-Fi setup on it, it will never be able to phone home and the pattern lock will prevent the new owner from setting up a new access point without having to wipe the unit anyway because it will get locked out.
A phone is a different beast altogether.
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For the "no known wifi" problem I use "wefi pro automatic wifi" or "wifi buddy beta". Both will try to scan and connect your tablet to open networks.
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zeus_chingon said:
For the "no known wifi" problem I use "wefi pro automatic wifi" or "wifi buddy beta". Both will try to scan and connect your tablet to open networks.
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That's good to know. I'll be sure to try those out.
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krelvinaz said:
I have Cerberus.. but it most likely will be useless... unless it is taken like at work where I already have Wi-Fi setup on it, it will never be able to phone home and the pattern lock will prevent the new owner from setting up a new access point without having to wipe the unit anyway because it will get locked out.
A phone is a different beast altogether.
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Yea, phones are a different thing... not only do you have the opportunity to track but also they are tagged to a network. But a WiFi only tab... even with an autowifi app.. the chances of both apps running at the time stolen and connected to WiFi are really slim. Besides the fact that you couldn't go busting in a residence just because you knew it was in there......
+1 Cerberus good support too
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thcaddict said:
I'd like to install an anti theft app on my n7. I've got Where's My Droid on my phone, but the thing is, the nexus doesn't have a data signal to access its GPS location at the drop of a dime.... it would only be able to be tracked if it is currently connected to WiFi, right? If it wasn't connected to WiFi then there would be no way to track it that I can think of. Anyways, what are some good anti theft apps that you guys are using?
Another question, has any used Tablet Talk, or so,etching similar? Its an app that sync your phone and tablet together which allows text messages to be sent front your nexus, but it uses your mobile number. Are there any other apps out there like this? Would really love to hear about some experiences with Tablet Talk or similar apps so I know what I should purchase. Thanks in advance.
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Bought Cerberus myself and a few coworkers bought it too. Love the features.
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Nexus 7 do have gps integrated unsure if it can sync the position on cerberus server without wifi
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Assuming that your tab has some sort of pin/pattern lock/face unlock protection and your Wi-Fi is always on, then there shouldn't be much problem for the auto-Wi-Fi app to connect and enable access for Cerberus. Mind you that wefi pro DOES start on boot.
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Yea, phones are a different thing... not only do you have the opportunity to track but also they are tagged to a network. But a WiFi only tab... even with an autowifi app.. the chances of both apps running at the time stolen and connected to WiFi are really slim. Besides the fact that you couldn't go busting in a residence just because you knew it was in there......
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Assuming that your tab has some sort of pin/pattern lock/face unlock protection and your Wi-Fi is always on, then there shouldn't be much problem for the auto-Wi-Fi app to connect and enable access for Cerberus. Mind you that wefi pro DOES start on boot.
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Except if course that using open Wi-Fi is insecure...but if you are willing to do that, it might be a solution...you would need to test it first.
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I have Avast installed on my Nexus 7. Don't care for the AV, but it does have built in anti theft, where if your N7 is rooted, it can bury itself deep in the system and survive hard-resets. Not sure how well it does, and hope never to find out, but it looks alright. There are probably similar apps out there.
Avast here too. AV does seem to slow some things down some, I guess I'll turn it off. The "locate" feature works well with Google Voice number. Turns on your GPS then sends location to GV (on a PC). Only time I hope to need it is if I leave my Nexus somewhere and I need to remember where (hoping it wasn't stolen). I'm a bit paranoid since I recently had a phone stolen with no security software on it.
Danny80y said:
What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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Not with cerebrus.
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krelvinaz said:
I have Cerberus.. but it most likely will be useless... unless it is taken like at work where I already have Wi-Fi setup on it, it will never be able to phone home and the pattern lock will prevent the new owner from setting up a new access point without having to wipe the unit anyway because it will get locked out.
A phone is a different beast altogether.
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Actually you can flash cerebrus and even if they wipe it will still be there.
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Danny80y said:
What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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Passwords aren't going to get your tablet back. IMO, the biggest risk of losing a tablet is accidently leaving it someplace. I have a business card taped to the protective case of my Nexus and have the app "Android Lost" installed. If my tablet is found by an honest person, then they will call the number on the business card and all is well. If it is found by someone not so honest, the odds of them being sophisticated enough to know how to "wipe the tab" are slim to none. It is more likely that if they are stopped by a passwork, they'll just ditch the tab in the trash or try to "get a reward" by calling me. Without a password, they'll probably at least use it long enough to run down the battery. In that case I at least have a chance of locating it via "Android Lost".
edit: If I were a student, using my tablet "on campus" everyday, I might reconsider the risk. The "campus environment" probably is more conducive to actually having a tablet stolen.
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Not with cerebrus.
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Actually you can flash cerebrus and even if they wipe it will still be there.
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Even if that were true, so what?
You are missing the point.
Okay. I'm at a conference and and look away and someone grabs my Nexus 7. I was using WiFi via my phone since I never use WiFi from unsecure sources. They run away and hours later turn it on. Password is required. They don't know it and after X number attempts the tablet is now locked.
The tablet is not going to connect to any WiFi near them because it is setup to not allow unsecure WiFi connections.
How is cerebrus going to help me find my Tablet ??? It won't, it can't. If they can't use the Tablet (its locked out now right), it doesn't matter if Cerebrus is on it or not.
On a device with 3G, We are talking about something totally different. and I use Android Lost for that. Works great and I know a couple people who found their phones with it, including one that didn't even have it installed when it was "acquired".... they had it installed via the play store and then took control of the device.
The tablet without 3G is not the same beast as it requires working WiFi to do anything. Can't phone home or do anything without it.
The best protection is my data and backing it up OFF the tablet on a regular basis so that if I break my tablet or it gets stolen, I can quickly rebuild a new one with my apps and data in a short time period.
Hello Everyone,
I lost my samsung galaxy note in Singapore airport when I am changing my flight to Adelaide. I am very disappointed about it. I tried all the ways by searching via Samsung Dive. I tried installing droidlost and Plan B apps to track my mobile. Since I have inserted my Indian SIM when the phone lost and unfortunately I changed to Airplane Mode. Now I am not able to track it by sending sms for activating the app since the SIM is on international roaming (if the guy who got my phone switches ON). Kindly please let me know any alternatives. I am very frustrated and hard earned mobile. Please.
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Kamal
bhai ab kaun lauta raha h fone wapis..? ab tak to bik bhi gya hoga!
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Maybe its time to move on. I heard SGN 2 is already in market??
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Try to contact samsung customer care or file a complain regarding that including imei.
I know one thing thru imei u can find but you need to pressurize.
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shivg86 said:
Try to contact samsung customer care or file a complain regarding that including imei.
I know one thing thru imei u can find but you need to pressurize.
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Call your provider and ask them to block the IMEI, this way the phone will be un-usable as a phone, And if someone has already placed a working SIM into it, Your carrier should know its location.
Dial up the pressure and get them to help you !
Actually it can be tracked but in indian system they dont even care
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System is nice buddy.it is related to us.and dont make such coments on system.
It gives output if you do some legal things with a good wit.
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Stop being so defensive Shiv. There's a lot to criticize with the Indian system. It's far from perfect.
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M i defensive man?srry if i am.and system is in us.we make it.
Well its xda nt social topic site so i am mum now.
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vudathu said:
Hello Everyone,
I lost my samsung galaxy note in Singapore airport when I am changing my flight to Adelaide. I am very disappointed about it. I tried all the ways by searching via Samsung Dive. I tried installing droidlost and Plan B apps to track my mobile. Since I have inserted my Indian SIM when the phone lost and unfortunately I changed to Airplane Mode. Now I am not able to track it by sending sms for activating the app since the SIM is on international roaming (if the guy who got my phone switches ON). Kindly please let me know any alternatives. I am very frustrated and hard earned mobile. Please.
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Kamal
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Hi. I suggest you contact the ICA (Immigration Checkpoint Authority) of Sillypore to see whether they found your lost Note.
Don't worry about them stealing, cause they're reliable.
That's very unfortunate to hear. I too am trying to track down my Galaxy Note. I was at the bus station the other day and someone asked to borrow my phone for a call. I was just doing a good deed but he ran away with it. I've also tried plan B but it seems like the thief has already unassociated the google account. I'd like to know too if there are any other ways to track down the note knowing only the serial number?
I don't want to disappoint you but I think it's kind of hopeless. It takes nothing more than a wipe of the system to eliminate the tracking capablity using Samsung dive. Let alone the possibility to flash a new rom. I'd informe my provider about the loss and get a new phone. I know that's not what you.expected but it's reality.
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If anyone knows the slightest thing about android then they will now that they can erase everything in recovery (stock or custom) leaving no tracking apps installed.
However...... That being said, there are more apps being developed lately that are designed to survive a full wipe from recovery, so make sure to look in to it for future references.
Avast ! is one of these apps and I highly recommened trying it, But also, Spend some time online looking and comparing all the different security apps, Dont be afraid to pay for one if it is worth it ! because it could be a matter of paying <£5 for an app, or losing a >£300 phone !
On a side note, Most providers wont give a crap if you lose your phone, They will just block it and still force you to pay them, So dont always rely on them to help you if something goes wrong !
Finally, without dragging this post on for too long, Its nice the guy above tried to do a good deed, But in future DONT !! I know this sounds harsh, But in most places of the world people only want 1 thing........ MONEY ! and they will do what ever they can to get it.
Who doesnt own a mobile ? you can pick up a $hitter for less than £10 ! there are dozens of phoneboxes out there and even reverse charge numbers.
So keep your witts about you next time you try to do a good deed for someone :good:
To the guy who said move on to note 2
Got news for you... not all of us can afford to, or want to . I'm more than happy with mine. Ill wait until we have 4g here and get the note 3.
I've put features off the 2 on mine ,&they work fine . Also use ram boosters ,which along with oc speeded it up no end .
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You can with a bit of fiddling put a tracking app into the system, hide the icon .we all know about root etc but we are not normal !?users. Most people thinl a phone is a phone .My gf and friends just roll their eyes when I pull mine out and try to show my new pet OS !
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It is worth trying to contact the airport, hope you find the phone.
However.. the bus station theif... some horrible people exist.
howard bamber said:
My gf and friends just roll their eyes when I pull mine out and try to show my new pet OS !
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Yep.Same here...
This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.
I have the evo lte rooted with same unsupported device message, yes it will still work
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llblwskydrgn said:
This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.
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The reason it is discouraged is because anyone (with the now-how) can brute-force access your pin if your phone is rooted. And then skip away making payments on goodies.
What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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josh030181 said:
What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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oh hey josh nice phone come here a sec *hugs* now stay like this for about 5 minutes kthx.
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Any place that has tap-to-pay or pay-pass features (forgot what the actual name is). I've seen it at McDonald's, CVS/Walgreens, Best Buy, and a few other large chains around town.
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Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
So it doesn't have to be specifically for google wallet? They work on the things like the speedpass at speedway or your creditcard where you just tap it to the machine and it gets your infO?
eksasol said:
Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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Awesome! Looking forward to trying this out in the next few weeks. Hope I remember to try it when I see it...
I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....
eksasol said:
Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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I've been living in China all my life. What are your taking about?
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coalesce said:
I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....
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I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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ackliph said:
I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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Ohhh that's what I love about my area, HSPA+ EVERYWHERE . I guess I'll try some other stores out...
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Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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I'd still say it's more secure than that. Anyone can swipe a card and charge it as credit. Relatively few people would know how to brute force hack google wallet on a rooted device.
Everyone.
Google wallet does not require a data connection.
If its not working , I read on the wallet website to "hold it about an inch" from the terminal. Without placing it on the terminal. Try to see if that works.
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Yeah mine didn't work at the gas station the other day, though I didn't log out of Google Wallet before I flashed a rom and rooted recently so some say that it'll never work again after that because of the secure element getting locked or something like that. Hopefully that's not true.
I've flashed and reflashed a lot. All you need to do is delete the data, connect to high speed internet like WiFi, then open it up. Worked for me.
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