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Is Samsung spying on us with the Note and other devices?

I just saw this news and I am floored by this. I am a firm believer in my right to privacy and this is just absurd.
http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-and...u-do?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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No. Only affects US carrier-supplied phones from what I've read elsewhere.
If you bought the phone outright and it's loaded with non-carrier branded firmware you wouldn't be affected.
I haven't used a carrier-supplied phone (esp one that wasn't wiped with a custom rom) for years so I can't comment if such practices are also common by Operators in countries other than the US.

megapimp said:
I just saw this news and I am floored by this. I am a firm believer in my right to privacy and this is just absurd.
http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-and...u-do?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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That's disgraceful.
I hope the mainstream press makes a fuss about it.

I couldn't believe it when I read about this and watched the video this morning. First thing I did was check if it was on my Note. Thankfully not!

Wow thats worse than apple
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Currently 141 MILLION and a third phones on their Carrier IQ network??? OMG

Let them look. I've got nothing to hide!!
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Prozac69 said:
Let them look. I've got nothing to hide!!
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That is your first mistake.
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Well there is some evidence its on samsung devices as epic 4g as its HTC made. Now reports are it was included in 3.1.3 iOS but disabled only working in debug mode. Now I wonder if its just a debug mode thing since in order to capture we need debug. Also worried its called something else on the phones. What's tracker in our apps??? I'm not fresh loaded but maybe someone else can research now that this cat is out of the bag.
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Can someone here who is rooted and running the original Note firmware install the Logging Test app and check if CIQ is on the Note?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559
edit: It looks like CIQ is not installed on the Note.

Guys before u take up arms just think about all the apps that you install.
Most, if not all have access to your personal info.
I am sure every carrier will use the info to do study how the general popluation is doing ( not true always though ) but what about the the people who get all ur contacts and email info...
If u use internet , forget about all privacy... its not there anymore

Really? Have you even read what's going on, and watched TrevE's video? The thing here is that we can't opt-out, we didn't know that CIQ did this, the logs are not encrypted and it also logs your web history and passwords.
If you are OK with this i feel sorry for you. This is spying.
But again, it doesn't look like the Note has this.

BazookaAce said:
Really? Have you even read what's going on, and watched TrevE's video? The thing here is that we can't opt-out, we didn't know that CIQ did this, the logs are not encrypted and it also logs your web history and passwords.
If you are OK with this i feel sorry for you. This is spying.
But again, it doesn't look like the Note has this.
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We are right to be concerned. If you don't speak up about privacy concerns, even when they don't directly affect you, then we will come to a time when these types of apps and disregard for personal privacy are so prevalent that there will be nothing we can do.
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Homeland Security...

xAnimal5 said:
Wow thats worse than apple
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how so? It was in iOS and Apple has a much better control over their firmware than any other manufacturers who bend over backwards to US carriers.
Also read what apple said carefully.
We stopped supporting CarrierIQ with iOS 5 in most of our products and will remove it completely in a future software update. With any diagnostic data sent to Apple, customers must actively opt-in to share this information, and if they do, the data is sent in an anonymous and encrypted form and does not include any personal information. We never recorded keystrokes, messages or any other personal information for diagnostic data and have no plans to ever do so.
what the hell does it mean by "most" and does this mean all iOS4 devices will have carrier IQ builtin?
I'm pretty disgusted by this Carrier IQ. Whether they do or do not review the information but they have no right to collect personal information without our consent

iPhone 4 still running Carrier IQ:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-4-but-we-dont-read-your-e-mail-and-texts.ars

It really comes down to the carrier is where our privacy is dug into by the contract we sign. I do not agree about this and will only buy in contract phones or switch to ios in the future. Shame on the carriers!
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This seems a fairly balanced article (surprisingly from CNN):
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/01/technology/carrier_iq/index.htm
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A good reader comment from the Washington Post:
Do you perform online banking on your mobile device? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned your Login ID and Password despite being securely protected via HTTPS.
Do you carry your mobile device everywhere you go? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned where you family lives, where you work, where your daughter or son goes to school, where your relatives live during the holidays, and where you take your daughter or son to the park, etc..
Do you share your private and secret information through text messages across your spouse, your son or your daughter? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned all about them and you thought no one else would ever know.
Do you use secured data storage apps on your mobile phone? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned your social security numbers, all bank account numbers, all credit card numbers, secret security codes, and all your login IDs and Passwords you use for work and at home. They also know the server location or name and know how long they have left before your passwords expire.
Do you store all the contact numbers of your family members and relatives on your mobile device? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned your spouses contact number for both mobile and work, your daughter's or your son's number, your grandfather's or grandmothers, your sisters and brothers, your office mates, your employer, and everyone else you've entered into your mobile device.
Now, can you imagine the kinds of illegal and unlawful activities this kind of power and information can do to harm you, your family, your children, your employer, your coworkers, your loved ones simply by using social engineering methods to connect the dots to find all of your weak spots and personal vulnerabilities?

So when Apple says they stopped suppirtung in most iOS 5 products is that because its not installed on ipod nanos and touches...just the iphone 4 and 4s...right? See i think they were very sneaky with their wording... Its not like they said its installed on this this and this, is it.
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The Verge have a great Story stream page on Carrier IQ for anyone interested in a general overview or dig deep on this topic.
personally I found it unacceptable to have a key logger rootkit installed on my smart phone. I use my phone to do online purchases, access my work emails and check my bank accounts.
I'd not buy a computer with rootkit installed, so should a smart phone perform similar functions be any different.
Carrier IQ so far have not answered even the basic questions of what information is being tracked, how the information is stored and if our personal information is being kept safe.

How does one disable expiration of Windows 8 Consumer Preview?

Looks like Windows 8 expires next year on 1/15. Any way to disable that function so that it doesn't lock down my computer?

Why?
I any case, there'll be a public beta released in the next few months I'd say anyway.

moved to general - not development

I'm not sure you can. Also, it technically isn't deactivated, but rather nuetered. It doesn't get updates, force shut downs every 2 hours, you can't access free MS software, ect. Basically, it drives you mad until you go so insane you get forced into upgrading.

qipengart said:
Looks like Windows 8 expires next year on 1/15. Any way to disable that function so that it doesn't lock down my computer?
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No.
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qipengart said:
Looks like Windows 8 expires next year on 1/15. Any way to disable that function so that it doesn't lock down my computer?
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One does not disable that time bomb.....at least as far as XDA-Dev is concerned.
Moving along, nothing to see

qipengart said:
Looks like Windows 8 expires next year on 1/15. Any way to disable that function so that it doesn't lock down my computer?
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nah.. the 1/15 is already the extended version.
i didn't found anything after googling for 5 minute.
well, just wait till the full version comes, and wait for the pirate to help you

derpotato said:
nah.. the 1/15 is already the extended version.
i didn't found anything after googling for 5 minute.
well, just wait till the full version comes, and wait for the pirate to help you
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I don't believe it's ethical or within forum rules to advocate piracy man.
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ShadowEO said:
I don't believe it's ethical or within forum rules to advocate piracy man.
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no one said anything about software piracy. Also, one can only illegally use windows IF they use an illegal key. Disabling/enabling windows activation files for development / testing purposes, is not so long as they dont use any product key at all. Plus, there are built in commands to extend the activation period for a set amount of times and can be reset 3 times.

cyberkeeper1 said:
no one said anything about software piracy. Also, one can only illegally use windows IF they use an illegal key. Disabling/enabling windows activation files for development / testing purposes, is not so long as they dont use any product key at all. Plus, there are built in commands to extend the activation period for a set amount of times and can be reset 3 times.
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so the phrase "wait for the pirate to help you" obviously isnt hinting at piracy, right?

cyberkeeper1 said:
no one said anything about software piracy. Also, one can only illegally use windows IF they use an illegal key. Disabling/enabling windows activation files for development / testing purposes, is not so long as they dont use any product key at all. Plus, there are built in commands to extend the activation period for a set amount of times and can be reset 3 times.
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using a product outside of its original intended use, hacked or stolen, is still piracy, you are using something that you have not paid for, whether or not there are exploits to get around that is irrelevant. Dude, it costs next to nothing to buy it so just buy it an feel good that your supporting developers rather than trying to rip them off
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Oh, "outside original intended use" is pretty much what hacking is all about. Mind you, that's usually a matter of adding functionality, not of bypassing license restrictions (which is exactly what the OP is asking for, and is, by all intents and purposes, piracy).
Just buy the damn OS for $40 US and use the release version instead of the buggy pre-release. I believe you can even install it over the existing pre-release and keep your files, if backing up is too much trouble. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...dows_8_Pro?WT.mc_id=MSCOM_HP_nav_BuyWSoftware

GoodDayToDie said:
. Mind you, that's usually a matter of adding functionality, not of bypassing license restrictions (which is exactly what the OP is asking for, and is, by all intents and purposes, piracy).
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my point exactly. I've now updated about half a dozen devices, its so stupidly cheap it would be madness not doing it, any vista era laptop is BETTER than new with it, the age old "excuses" for piracy just don't hold any water at this price point.
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
so the phrase "wait for the pirate to help you" obviously isnt hinting at piracy, right?
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Well I never saw that part... Lol. However, I do make a valid point. Microsoft sells software, sure, but it's the keys they actually care about. I actually already disabled the activation utilities in windows 8 pro last night because it came up on a fresh install and crashed my computer. Another valid reason to remove it. I was in middle of watching something and the new activation came up in a metro ui windows and refused to close. Next thing I know, a BSOD came up with a video crash error. Since windows is so cheap, I do plan to buy the pro upgrade, just not right this minute.
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cyberkeeper1 said:
Well I never saw that part... Lol. However, I do make a valid point. Microsoft sells software, sure, but it's the keys they actually care about. I actually already disabled the activation utilities in windows 8 pro last night because it came up on a fresh install and crashed my computer. Another valid reason to remove it. I was in middle of watching something and the new activation came up in a metro ui windows and refused to close. Next thing I know, a BSOD came up with a video crash error. Since windows is so cheap, I do plan to buy the pro upgrade, just not right this minute.
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while you plan to buy it, what your doing now is still piracy and still frowned apon. the easiest and most effective way to cure activation related crashes is to........actually activate it

Using the already included activation tools that are built in to windows to temporarily disable a buggy subsystem is not piracy. By right, I am given 30 days of free usage on any copy of windows when absent of a product key. I am part of the tech net and msdn and know all about windows, and all of its components, subsystems, and legalities. Trust me when I say that disabling activation during the first 30 days is not by any means even partially shady. Just. E wary after
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cyberkeeper1 said:
Using the already included activation tools that are built in to windows to temporarily disable a buggy subsystem is not piracy. By right, I am given 30 days of free usage on any copy of windows when absent of a product key. I am part of the tech net and msdn and know all about windows, and all of its components, subsystems, and legalities. Trust me when I say that disabling activation during the first 30 days is not by any means even partially shady. Just. E wary after
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everybody's on tech net huh!
kinda makes you wonder what your doing messing about with not activating it...
yes you have 30 days to eval it, but heres the thing, since you haven't paid for it, and you have access to technet, I assume that's where you got your copy of it? what I fail to understand then is why you haven't activated it with the key you generated from them...
unless you didn't get it from TechNet , you cant download it without buying it first, unless you got it through alternative channels, but then why would you when you have access to TechNet and not use it....
many questions...

Problem... solved? Maybe? Haha.
dazza9075 said:
everybody's on tech net huh!
Kinda makes you wonder what your doing messing about with not activating it...
Yes you have 30 days to eval it, but here's the thing... since you haven't paid for it, (and you have access to TechNet) I assume that's where you got your copy of it? What I fail to understand then is why you haven't activated it with the key you generated from them...
Unless you get it from TechNet , you can't download it without buying it first. Unless you got it through alternative channels... but then why would you when you have access to TechNet and not use it...
many questions...
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Well, I just simply do not have a premium subscription that would allow me access to said keys. I just get copies of things for free for evaluation only. i will be upgrading my TechNet license to premium before too long once i get some more money. The other reason is for testing. i know windows 8 is great, but i want to run a semi-long term test to make sure that windows can hold up to all that i need and do every day. Hence the 30 day evaluation. On average, my computers have about 280GB of nothing but just programs for development (website, source, etc...) and programs for places such as this for building ROMs, and that takes A LOT of space already.
So basically, i disabled the activation out of pure annoyance, and it doesn't need to be activated when merely evaluating the Install. Second, if that is what happens every time it comes up, then i will definitely figure out a way to keep using the older Consumer Preview that just expired on monday, or settle for windows 7 again. Man I had EVERYTHING set up on it. Good for computer repair, ROM building, building custom Windows OS copies for licensed redistribution, etc... You name it, i had it... lol.

[Q] Developer Liscense

i had to set one up in powershell to side-load a Pandora metro app it says i will need to renew it in a month. how do i go about doing that?

cammykool said:
i had to set one up in powershell to side-load a Pandora metro app it says i will need to renew it in a month. how do i go about doing that?
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The same way you got your first one, I believe. I'm fairly sure you'll have to reload all your sideloaded apps too.
That being said, I don't think there's been any official word on this, and since it hasn't been out for a month I don't think anyone knows for sure.

Developer licenses are renewable, yes. You'll have to repeat the Show-WindowsDeveloperLicenseRegistration step, but it only takes a few seconds.

for yhe Pandora app i found here toatilly worth it

Thanks!

There is some stuff online about Microsoft revoking your dev license if you abuse it. Not sure what constitutes abuse, though.
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JihadSquad said:
There is some stuff online about Microsoft revoking your dev license if you abuse it. Not sure what constitutes abuse, though.
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The terms of service explicitly notes that using it to pirate apps is grounds for revocation, but that was the only thing I saw that definitely constituted abuse. They may have other qualifiers too. It also says that they can (and do) send info on whatever you sign to Microsoft, which I'm not sure if I like or not. I can see why they're doing it, but it still feels wrong to have them looking at what you're doing in such a manner.

[Q] I can't use Google wallet if I am rooted?

This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.

I have the evo lte rooted with same unsupported device message, yes it will still work
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llblwskydrgn said:
This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.
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The reason it is discouraged is because anyone (with the now-how) can brute-force access your pin if your phone is rooted. And then skip away making payments on goodies.

What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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josh030181 said:
What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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oh hey josh nice phone come here a sec *hugs* now stay like this for about 5 minutes kthx.

Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>

llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Any place that has tap-to-pay or pay-pass features (forgot what the actual name is). I've seen it at McDonald's, CVS/Walgreens, Best Buy, and a few other large chains around town.

llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html

So it doesn't have to be specifically for google wallet? They work on the things like the speedpass at speedway or your creditcard where you just tap it to the machine and it gets your infO?

eksasol said:
Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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Awesome! Looking forward to trying this out in the next few weeks. Hope I remember to try it when I see it...

I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....

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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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I've been living in China all my life. What are your taking about?
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coalesce said:
I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....
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I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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Can't upload photospheres either if you're rooted

ackliph said:
I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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Ohhh that's what I love about my area, HSPA+ EVERYWHERE . I guess I'll try some other stores out...

llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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I'd still say it's more secure than that. Anyone can swipe a card and charge it as credit. Relatively few people would know how to brute force hack google wallet on a rooted device.

Everyone.
Google wallet does not require a data connection.
If its not working , I read on the wallet website to "hold it about an inch" from the terminal. Without placing it on the terminal. Try to see if that works.
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Yeah mine didn't work at the gas station the other day, though I didn't log out of Google Wallet before I flashed a rom and rooted recently so some say that it'll never work again after that because of the secure element getting locked or something like that. Hopefully that's not true.

I've flashed and reflashed a lot. All you need to do is delete the data, connect to high speed internet like WiFi, then open it up. Worked for me.
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theft proof

Hi guys..
I'm not very sure if i shud be posting in the Dev section but this is an important topic and this is the easiest way I could get attention of the developers...
After my note 1 being stolen, i was thinking of ways of making the phone theft proof.
And I came up witha few things.
1. Prevent phone from being switched off with the power button withouta password
2. Prevent factory reset withouta password
3. Prevent recovery or download mode withouta password.
I'm d sure if these things can sine how be implemented then or note 2 will be theft proof.
Its all upto the devs now
Moderator please don't delete this...its serious matter.

it's also not a dev discussion topic. thread moved.

I have Android Locator Pro, so if someone gets my unlock code wrong, it takes a picture of them and emails it to me with their location.

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I have Android Locator Pro, so if someone gets my unlock code wrong, it takes a picture of them and emails it to me with their location.
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if they are connected to internet...:cyclops:

mayank_nigam said:
Hi guys..
I'm not very sure if i shud be posting in the Dev section but this is an important topic and this is the easiest way I could get attention of the developers...
After my note 1 being stolen, i was thinking of ways of making the phone theft proof.
And I came up witha few things.
1. Prevent phone from being switched off with the power button withouta password
2. Prevent factory reset withouta password
3. Prevent recovery or download mode withouta password.
I'm d sure if these things can sine how be implemented then or note 2 will be theft proof.
Its all upto the devs now
Moderator please don't delete this...its serious matter.
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Avast! Anti-theft (free, play store) does 1 and 2, pretty sure it does 3 too.

People would just take battery out. Perhaps a dev can give you some super glue to stick the back cover on?
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nyda83 said:
if they are connected to internet...:cyclops:
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They wouldn't be able to disconnect it from HSPA+ without the unlocking the phone though.
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I always thought about putting a sort of chip in the phone that can makes a lot of noise if a button is pressed on a telecomand lol.
I dont know if that is possible to do, I'm not really good with electronics stuff.
this would work if you're in a certain area of the incident

B3311 said:
Avast! Anti-theft (free, play store) does 1 and 2, pretty sure it does 3 too.
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I also have avast... but you can get around it by putting new ROM from odin
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daz_2000 said:
People would just take battery out. Perhaps a dev can give you some super glue to stick the back cover on?
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Are you a retard?
The thief would certainly freak out if he tries to switch off the phone and it won't shut down...
It could be of some help, but putting a password to enter download mode is fool proof! If only someone could do it!
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mayank_nigam said:
I also have avast... but you can get around it by putting new ROM from odin
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Implementing password protection to enter download mode OR CWM totally covers all aspect and even if you dun get the phone back the thief cannot use the phone.

antt00 said:
Implementing password protection to enter download mode OR CWM totally covers all aspect and even if you dun get the phone back the thief cannot use the phone.
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And what would be the fail safe? Everything needs a fail safe. Consider that something gets corrupted and the recovery password doesn't work anymore.
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out of the 3 suggestions, the 1st one is ridiculous. so a normal user has to input a password everytime he wants to turn the phone off? that'll do wonders for the batt life...
and doing all these things won't make it theft proof.. you can still steal it but you can't use it. being theft proof is like james bond's gun, if someone else other than the user uses it, it doesn't work or self destructs and blows the user's hand off.. now that's what I call "theft proof". :good::laugh:

Avast anti theft is good. They put an app in your rom, you will need root access though. When u insert an unregistered sim card (not registered with avast app) the phone will be locked with loud sirens which u cannot stop unless u switch off the phone. Rendering it useless.
Tough luck if u removed avast av. Need to let the sirens sound whole the app downloads, enter your preselected pin chide and choose register sim. Viola!
Tested with my pervious phone the Motorola RAZR. Works like a charm. Still there after flashing roms.
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mayank_nigam said:
Are you a retard?
The thief would certainly freak out if he tries to switch off the phone and it won't shut down...
It could be of some help, but putting a password to enter download mode is fool proof! If only someone could do it!
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No need to personally attack someone, especially insinuating they are mentally deficiant. His point is actually very valid. You can lock the reboot menu, lock screen, etc. You cannot stop someone from pulling out the battery. You can also not stop them going to download mode. From my understanding, alterations to download mode would require alterations from Samsung themself as it loads without even ROM on your device, so no rom developers could impliment any changes in download mode.
So what can you do? As was suggested, Avast anti-theft does most of it, and, hope the person stealing your phone has no idea about download mode. Or a theif on a budget that doesn't own a PC.

You cannot lock download mode, as the sbl is signed... you could add a password to recovery if you decided to write a recovery that did this...
But that's pointless as you can flash from the unprotected download mode...
This is a situation that happens a lot, where users think they know what they want, but developers know what's possible.
Passwords to turn off are silly-these phones have a hardware interrupt when you hold down the power key... you can't stop that... you could also simply remove the battery...

mayank_nigam said:
Are you a retard?
The thief would certainly freak out if he tries to switch off the phone and it won't shut down...
It could be of some help, but putting a password to enter download mode is fool proof! If only someone could do it!
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Looks like you're the retard!
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B3311 said:
Avast! Anti-theft (free, play store) does 1 and 2, pretty sure it does 3 too.
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And it drains a lot of Juice. Used it for about 2 Weeks and removed due to high Battery consumption. The before mentioned Androidlocator is a bit more peaceable

Here you go... if you're rooted you can even flash the program so that it will survive a system restore. Only way to remove it is to flash a different ROM. You can hide the program and you can even locate the phone without it having an Internet connection. You can also remotely wipe the phone, take screenshots of it, take picture with the camera, record audio, check call/sms log etc without the thief knowing it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus
Brgds... /Tubgirl

mayank_nigam said:
Are you a retard?
The thief would certainly freak out if he tries to switch off the phone and it won't shut down...
It could be of some help, but putting a password to enter download mode is fool proof! If only someone could do it!
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lol you definitely didnt get it, talking bs for nothin