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Youtube HD Stuttery

No matter what, Youtube videos HD stutter and lag intolerably. Running CM9 @ 1.5GHz, and on HC/ARHD HC it was perfectly smooth. It was also laggy on stock ICS. I believe this is an ICS issue, and was wondering if anyone has a fix.

Yes instal geuvors kernel test 13 and not 13b

Dont run from mobil site, click "desktop" in the lowest part of the site.
Or start videos in stick it player when browsing
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Got same stuttering here in browser and youtube app. Stock, latest revolver and Revolution HD roms with test kernel 14 and 15 on both. No difference. The cpu is through the roof when watching HD content. The "force gpu" setting on/off makes little difference to the overall framerate. Will try test13 and report back.
The youtube app played everything smooth in HD on Honeycomb, so I went back to HC to test if it ran smooth again. It did not for some reason. Don't know what to make of this..

It is perfectly smooth for me. Check what version of the YouTube app you are running in the Settings. The latest is 3.5.5. I found that for me cm9 did not identify itself correctly on the Market and the YouTube app would never update leaving me with an old version.

cholywell said:
It is perfectly smooth for me. Check what version of the YouTube app you are running in the Settings. The latest is 3.5.5. I found that for me cm9 did not identify itself correctly on the Market and the YouTube app would never update leaving me with an old version.
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Please watch This in youtube app and report back again.
Maybe with high overclock it is semi smooth, but I don't believe it is as smooth as on HC. Check on your PC how smooth it CAN play for reference....

I have tried your video in my Youtube app, fullscreen and HD enabled.
I do have some stuttering, but really not that much. It might be happening every minute or so : the screen seems to freeze before it catches up. The rest of the time, it plays perfectly fluid.
And TBH, it is really bearable.

Mercvtio said:
I have tried your video in my Youtube app, fullscreen and HD enabled.
I do have some stuttering, but really not that much. It might be happening every minute or so : the screen seems to freeze before it catches up. The rest of the time, it plays perfectly fluid.
And TBH, it is really bearable.
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Thanks for checking
What is your rom / kernel? What CPU speed?
PS yes between stuttering it is fluent, but the stuttering is quite annoying, I have it every 5-10 seconds or so in the beginning of the movie.

FF666 said:
Please watch This in youtube app and report back again.
Maybe with high overclock it is semi smooth, but I don't believe it is as smooth as on HC. Check on your PC how smooth it CAN play for reference....
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So i tried with youtube app, stutter not really watchible
Opened with stick it videoplayer and it was 100% lagless. Also it was floating over the screen so that was awsome
Edit: The quality was not the same, even if HD was enabled
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FF666 said:
Please watch This in youtube app and report back again.
Maybe with high overclock it is semi smooth, but I don't believe it is as smooth as on HC. Check on your PC how smooth it CAN play for reference....
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Edit: ignore me i accidentally clicked off HQ :X
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FF666 said:
Thanks for checking
What is your rom / kernel? What CPU speed?
PS yes between stuttering it is fluent, but the stuttering is quite annoying, I have it every 5-10 seconds or so in the beginning of the movie.
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Running the last Megatron rom, with Guevor15 OC'ed at 1,4. The stuttering definitely doesn't happen as often as what you're reporting, but it must have to do with my overclock.
I don't really remember how well it might have worked on HC, cause I usually don't watch much Youtube videos of that quality...

Overclocking isn't going to help mutch since YouTube uses the gpu to render the video's

same problem here. Never stuttered on HC.

Running latest Android Revolution HD 3.2.1 [email protected]
Still stuttering and lag when there's alot of movement. If I overclock to 1500mhz it goes a bit smoother, but HC had no stutter (without overclocking).
Youtube app version is 3.5.5. Guess it's the youtube app that doesn't take full advantage of the gpu in ICS, or some nvidia driver issue.
Just have to live with it I guess, until Asus comes out with a fix. If they still continue to support this old tablet
EDIT: Using Setcpu [email protected] and governor Interactive i managed to get a bit smoother performance (test16 kernel). Lags a bit at the start of a video, and some stutter when there's ALOT of action/movement.

Try this, download sempervidlink from google play, it enables you to send videolinks like youtube to any player (mxplayer) and choose which quality you want it in. Open a actionfilled video to see if it helps
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anarox said:
Try this, download sempervidlink from google play, it enables you to send videolinks like youtube to any player (mxplayer) and choose which quality you want it in. Open a actionfilled video to see if it helps
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Thx! will try this later today.
I Actually went back to Revolver 3.11 Honeycomb with no OC. All videos run smooth without any stuttering (youtube app). I guess Honeycomb manages to use the GPU, while ICS uses the CPU. If you tick the "show cpu thingy" under dev options and play a HD video, the bars are through the roof. damn annoying! This is the only issue i've got with ICS. no deep sleep of death or random reboots hehe
-bana

I'll also have to try the above method, since I also get stuttering and clipping of the search bar (not sure if thats related)

Just use guevor's v20 kernel and he posted some NVIDIA codec updates. I think it will be included into v21.

I can (almost) confirm that the new codecs helps, it's not as smooth as on hc, I don't think, but it's certainly better.
The test video posted earlier is still choppy for me but other stuff that was choppy before is better.
Link to the codecs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26430343&postcount=1466

Guys. this is an ics issue. i can confirm on 4 different devices.
nexus s 4g gingerbread was all good, ics no
epic 4g touch gingerbread great, ics leaks, cm9, no good
stock galaxy nexus, no good.
now the transformer, hc good. ics no good.
i have almost 40mbps down at my house there is no reason it should stutter.
it seems to me the first 2 or 3 videos are fine, after that it lags. i have to shut it down and kill it for it to play right again.

Gaming rom

What is the best rom/firmware for gaming ?
In the ICS roms its reboot a loot.
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Stock gingerbread with DooMKerneL. Remove bloatware apps and stop excess services. Can't get a better gaming experience than that (though some say V6 supercharger helps)

Can someone give me the links ?
What gingerbread ?
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Stock is defintely what you want for gaming alright. I'd go with a stock based ROM so that most of the bloat is removed for you and not weighing down your device.
Something like JokaWild.
EDIT: by the sounds of it, you are going to have to do some research. Start by looking into flashtool.
Just noticed my above comment may have sounded condescending. It wasn't meant to be. Since you have flashed ICS successfully, I imagine you know how to flash a stock ROM.

From my experience Jokawild was the best gingerbread rom for gaming
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What's v6 supercharger, and where i can find it ??
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I could lambaste you for not using the search function but I know how crappy (non-existent) the search function is with tapatalk
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276

What about for a R800x?

I have tried several different ROMS and not that these other ROMs are not awesome in their own right. But I always come back to my nandroid of stock Android 2.3.3
I rooted, then deleted all bloat in the system folder, and all the other apps that can be reinstalled to SDcard, map, talk, gmail, etc. I have around 180mb of free space according to my system/apps folder. I then used V6 Supercharger and set everything to aggressive with Nitro Lag. Now my phone is super speedy. I have no lag anywhere, all games play buttery smooth including GL games. I also am using DoomKernel by DoomLord and No Frills set to Performance, CFQ at 1.2ghz (dont like to OC too much just a tiny little bump)
And I also have a Sandisk Mobile Ultra 32GB HC-I MicroSD card. Was using a class 4 sandisk proir an this card was on sale on a camera site for $30, figured why not and got it, saw a difference with GL games as well, before they were smooth with an occasional slight stutter but now its all good.
Just found it, its $3 more then what I paid but still a great price and this card is awesome.
http://www.adorama.com/IDSMUMSD32G....ansactionalEmail&utm_campaign=2point0Product1

hackthis02 said:
What about for a R800x?
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^This.

So, I'm using an ICS rom with the new Adreno drivers, and I get better performance on Fifa 12 then I got with Gingerbread. Is there a way to install the new Adreno drivers on Gingerbread?

I have tried most to all the roms as well and I will say I got the best gaming performance with the stock 2.3.3 rom (bloatware free) with doom's kernel. This had not only the best performance but also worked with most to all games.
I would of put 2.3.4 but gmail and google voice still wont auto sync. Once verizon decides to wake up then jump to 2.3.4. Hope this helps.
You will need to use flash tool (thread) to do all your kernel and FTF flashing.
Flash this: 2.3.3 FTF
Flash this: DoomKernel + Wifi modules (thread)
Boot up like normal and go through the setup. After that install titanium backup and start ripping out all that Verizon junk.
Install SetCPU and find your overclock sweet spot. Dont forget to set a profile to underclock you phone for when your batteries low. (I found that smartassV2 scaling gave me the best performance/battery life with a 1.6 Ghz overclock.)
This is for a r800x (Verizon)

That's pretty much what I did. I have the stock overclocked kernel, which isn't overclocked, but SetCPU is set to overclock to 1.6Ghz when any of my games are running.

Thread Closed, Thank You.

Trinity Kernel...1400mhz max?

I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?

Because he dropped the Max. You probably flashed A111 correct? That's a TSVZ meaning it is slightly over clocked and undervolted kernel meant for battery not for performance.
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U2Bono269 said:
I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ

Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
thanks

myke66 said:
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
thanks
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.

simms22 said:
yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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Nice, ill have to look into rooting sometime soon.

Ok, I got the a96 and I've flashed it...
Is there a detailed changelog for each version? The a111 said it was a 1600mhz kernel so I don't understand why it was dropped down to 1400. That's where my confusion was.
I did notice some increase in speed at 1400. I was having some stuttering issues with Dead Trigger and Minecraft PE, and they were less with the 1400. I've got it running at 1600 now but I don't know what it will do to the battery or how well it will perform. I'll find out later. I've run through the battery pretty quickly today, but I was tinkering with it A LOT so it's not accurate.
What kind of tweaks could I do using Rom Toolbox that would help me maximize my battery while overclocking to 1.6?

Dont over clock.. i dont even see a need to. I use the ondemand gov which stutters a little but using interactive clears that up. Also using the CFQ IO as it is the stock IO used. Its stock so its gotta be good . Also you should turn F-Sync off that helps quite a bit. Also you could toggle auto hotplug and make it only run two cores while gaming and then turn it back on when finished so that way it will hotplug cores as it sees necessary. You could also up the voltages a little bit, some CPU's dont like the lower voltage and that will cause stuttering and glitching just up them by 25mV and see if it clears if not try another 25mV.

I will try those things, but I really want to play with overclocking and learn what happens. This is my first Android device so I'm experimenting and playing around.
But I have one more question...I've overclocked to 1.5...I found 1.6 to be the same as 1.5. But it seems that after an hour or so, it resets to 1.3. in ROMToolbox. Why is this?

Don't use rom toolbox. Use the Trinity app. It sticks just fine for me. Besides you support the dev to make better kernels.
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simms22 said:
try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"

MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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Lol its a joke... its the updater-script you can make it say anything... :laugh:

MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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ha!
youre not the first

Overclocking past 1.4 Ghz doesn't result in any major usability improvements. I've gone up to 1.7 Ghz and the only thing it does is make my tablet really warm and unstable. All you really need for improving system performance is I/O tweaks to speed up app and page loading, and a little bit of GPU overclocking to help with the transitional effects.

and, to be honest, depending which trinity kernel im using, im using either 1100 or 1150mhz mostly. on a111 im using 1100mhz and on a96 i used 1150mhz. with those speeds everything is still fast but a bit better on battery

Overclocking
If you want a little more information about the the overclocking if you havent already you might want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788759 its the official thread of the trinity kernel for grouper.

overclock with cm10?

I have this tablet running the CM10 JB Rom.
How can I overclock?
If I need a kernel, what would work?

wmblalock said:
I have this tablet running the CM10 JB Rom.
How can I overclock?
If I need a kernel, what would work?
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really simple, go into settings and performances. Change the clock there.
Next time, use the Q&A.

gkillerx said:
really simple, go into settings and performances. Change the clock there.
Next time, use the Q&A.
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That was the first thing I tried, the maximum it let's me set is 1000mhz, which is stock...

wmblalock said:
That was the first thing I tried, the maximum it let's me set is 1000mhz, which is stock...
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ROM is independent from your overclocking capabilities. It is the kernel that allows you to overclock.
Change the kernel into another one.

wmblalock said:
That was the first thing I tried, the maximum it let's me set is 1000mhz, which is stock...
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Have you tried RaymanFX's CM10, he's calling it stable(ish) and I think it supports overclocking out-the-box. I found EOS 3 nightly (build 81) the best for me, as it was the only JB ROM that gTalk worked in. However I just found any JB ROM not stable / responsive enough. Browser crashes now and again, Firefox was stable though LOL.
I went back to ICS and still can't decide on EOS 2 or Megatron 1.1.6. They both are ultra stable but have annoying artifacts when widgets are in use. Apparently stock is still got some issues for some, so it seems HoneyComb is the only 100% solution
Has anybody got a good stable ROM without artifacts? Stock has no artifacts but I want a low bloat MOD, preferably AOSP based.

Elite or K.A.T.
Elite is working very well for me.
You can also try K.A.T. kernel
Both will give you full satisfaction for sure :highfive:

EOS nightly (build 81) suits for me. Put cpu speed on a save 1200 mhz with AnTuTu CPU master. Stable, fast, smooth. No isues so far.
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Which kernel doesn't have stutters?

I've been reading up on kernels like franco and glados but they seem to have stuttering in videos and such. Which kernels aren't affected by this?
I"m using PA3.5 4.2.2 . Also please quote this if you're replying so I get a notification thank you

iXanza said:
I've been reading up on kernels like franco and glados but they seem to have stuttering in videos and such. Which kernels aren't affected by this?
I"m using PA3.5 4.2.2 . Also please quote this if you're replying so I get a notification thank you
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i think it is a part of the GPU kernel which enables some nvidia battery saving features while watching videos that aren't very demanding like youtube.

Try them all and see for yourself.
Stock kernel doesn't have video stuttering.
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iXanza said:
I've been reading up on kernels like franco and glados but they seem to have stuttering in videos and such. Which kernels aren't affected by this?
I"m using PA3.5 4.2.2 . Also please quote this if you're replying so I get a notification thank you
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I am using Trinity Kernel and have no stuttering.
I have been able to play anything thrown at it.
The problem might also be your video player. Try MX Player or Dice Player

None of them.
An elixer to remove resource limits from finite hardware does not exist.

Sm0k3d 0uT said:
I am using Trinity Kernel and have no stuttering.
I have been able to play anything thrown at it.
The problem might also be your video player. Try MX Player or Dice Player
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Well I was on the stock kernel, while it doesn't have stutters some games were lagging. I flashed Trinity and OC to 1500 max and GPU oc to 484. 1 round of Ironman 3 without lag and I was happy. YouTube playback is fine aswell
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None of them.
An elixer to remove resource limits from finite hardware does not exist.
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I was talking about video stutters like YouTube. Anyways this thread is solved