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4G Now??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648160
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/17/its-twoo-its-twoo-4g-speed-is-a-reality/
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Cant wait till this is hacked into the N1!!

i mis read the #'s lol

First... those are 3G speeds, albeit higher than most of us currently experience on T-mobile. Second, anyone can add the 4G icon if they're rooted... just replace the 3G one with the 4G one, and there you go. That being said, bbuchacher is a pretty stand up guy and a well-known dev for the G1, so that throws my entire analysis upside down.

hoping the devs can implement this into the roms

uansari1 said:
First... those are 3G speeds, albeit higher than most of us currently experience on T-mobile. Second, anyone can add the 4G icon if they're rooted... just replace the 3G one with the 4G one, and there you go. That being said, bbuchacher is a pretty stand up guy and a well-known dev for the G1, so that throws my entire analysis upside down.
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exactly what i was thinking when i saw the screen shot lol. Still faster then what most are getting now though.

Those are pretty far from 4G speeds.
That's just HSDPA+ (3.5g?)
I'm in the NY Metro area, here's my T-Mobile runs:
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4G is touting being 10-30 times faster then this.

thepawn said:
Those are pretty far from 4G speeds.
That's just HSDPA+ (3.5g?)
I'm in the NY Metro area, here's my T-Mobile runs:
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4G is touting being 10-30 times faster then this.
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Yep pretty much made this false. Ive hit 1600kbps off 3.5g as well.

i would be happy if i could get any of those speeds i see. my avg is around 700kbs on 3G. Even cyanogen i s saying he has the test code and it works.

MvP77 said:
i would be happy if i could get any of those speeds i see. my avg is around 700kbs on 3G. Even cyanogen i s saying he has the test code and it works.
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Well if yet another Dev, Cyanogen in this case, is vouching for it...then there's not much more to say.

I don't have test code, I'm not even rooted, those are my speeds there in that screenshot.
They're probably getting HSDPA code updates to get us the max 7.2Mb/s that T-Mobile supposedly "on-lined" last year....I live in an HSDPA area and I don't get over 3.5Mb/s max so far, it would be nice to see 7Mb/s...heck, our tech specs don't even list HSDPA+, which would be nice to have...maybe thats what they are referring to, but even that is still only "3.5G".
By industry definition, "4G" is WiMax or LTE...neither of which are in our phone...

FYI, I guarantee this is not 4G and to say so is a major load of crap. I can also guarantee all it is is an ID key that tells the T-Mobile network you are a tester, and thus are not capped.
Simply put, this hack will be cut off if enough people use it since all T-Mobile has to do is change the ID Key this fakes to something else.

Kind of off topic. Isn't T-Mobile hspa+ 21mbs faster then. Wimax 4g. Even though our phones only support 7.2mbs wouldn't this still give us a speed increase?

WiMax 4G has a technical peak of 144Mbs/35Mbs, LTE is 360Mbs/80Mbs...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards)
HSDPA actually covers a wide range of configurations that vary depending on how the hardware is built and deployed. LTE is actually considered the evolution of UMTS/HSPA-Evolved (HSPA-Evolved is the evolution of HSDPA).
The HSDPA+ 21Mbs networks being brought up are category 14, the 7.2's are category 8, and the "general" 3G HSDPA networks are category 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
LTE is supposed to provide a final convergence of UTMS and EV-DO, though we'll still have a multi-standard market because of WiMax.
There's a lot of easy info out there to read about it all...

thepawn said:
WiMax 4G has a technical peak of 144Mbs/35Mbs, LTE is 360Mbs/80Mbs...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards)
HSDPA actually covers a wide range of configurations that vary depending on how the hardware is built and deployed. LTE is actually considered the evolution of UMTS/HSPA-Evolved (HSPA-Evolved is the evolution of HSDPA).
The HSDPA+ 21Mbs networks being brought up are category 14, the 7.2's are category 8, and the "general" 3G HSDPA networks are category 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
LTE is supposed to provide a final convergence of UTMS and EV-DO, though we'll still have a multi-standard market because of WiMax.
There's a lot of easy info out there to read about it all...
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Thanks. Didn't wanna look it up while at work. Eyes hurt if I read to much on my nexus lol

Galaxy S 4G/Vibrant Plus tops 4G speed tests

Guys,
Seems like Tmobile's advertised 4G network is really fast and Samsung hardware has proven better than the competition:
Original source...
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/10/4g-speed-tests-show-samsung-galaxy-s-4g-as-winner/
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original thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948139

The link you posted is not related to the news link I posted...

anthonys2r said:
original thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948139
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try reading the title, and maybe even the post before saying random things
on topic:
Yea i guess tmobile has a good server... the Galaxy s 4G... hmm
can we take its radio and put it in ours?

xriderx66 said:
try reading the title, and maybe even the post before saying random things
on topic:
Yea i guess tmobile has a good server... the Galaxy s 4G... hmm
can we take its radio and put it in ours?
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maybe...but the radio wont account for the hardware difference between the two (new modem hardware in 4g)

Screw data - how's the GPS performance?
-bZj
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xriderx66 said:
try reading the title, and maybe even the post before saying random things
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Yea i guess tmobile has a good server... the Galaxy s 4G... hmm
can we take its radio and put it in ours?
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That is what I'm going to find out when it comes out. I've heard rumors that all of 4G's hardware is all similar to the Vibe...
Cant wait to tinker that bad boy
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shehrammajid said:
maybe...but the radio wont account for the hardware difference between the two (new modem hardware in 4g)
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From what I gather, thats all what's needed, just that modem... Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
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This hardly matters given T-mobile's poor 3G coverage compared to practically every competing major carrier in the US.
It's sort of like the Evo/Epic 4G. Yea, 4G was nice but it's not like I'll have it anytime soon. I'm waiting for Verizon and/or AT&T to launch LTE, or maybe go back to AT&T and get an HSPA+ device. All I need is about 1.5 mbps consistent download speeds and I'm more than happy, TBQH. It's just a phone.

They should make their coverrage better.
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iynfynity said:
They should make their coverrage better.
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Genius.
I get 3g.
Barely

N8ter said:
This hardly matters given T-mobile's poor 3G coverage compared to practically every competing major carrier in the US.
It's sort of like the Evo/Epic 4G. Yea, 4G was nice but it's not like I'll have it anytime soon. I'm waiting for Verizon and/or AT&T to launch LTE, or maybe go back to AT&T and get an HSPA+ device. All I need is about 1.5 mbps consistent download speeds and I'm more than happy, TBQH. It's just a phone.
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Yawn.
Lookie who's back to threadcrapping.

OK I get the want for 4g. I dont see the point in buying a phone with close to the same specs when we have such decent phones around the corner.

Galaxy s 4g is not worth the upgrade for a 2-3 seconds faster page loads. I will hold onto my Vibrant and my soon to be HD2 until the tegra 3 arrives next year.

No Flames, just a friendly WiFi speed comparison

Hey, can somebody post a screen with their top speed (wifi) from their phone? I'm curious what real-world performance is between the "42mbps" radios is.
Ps-my home internet is rated at 18meg, so with devices connected, this is probably most of the pipe.
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How can you have a WiFI speed test .
Its dependant upon the speed of the users connection and those are many and varied 3meg can be a good connection for some .
Mine is within about 1% next to the router but drops the further i move away .
jje

nenol said:
Hey, can somebody post a screen with their top speed (wifi) from their phone? I'm curious what real-world performance is between the "42mbps" radios is.
Ps-my home internet is rated at 18meg, so with devices connected, this is probably most of the pipe.
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Not a flame, but what are you talking about?
Wi-Fi has nothing to do with what the "42mbps" radio is. That is HSPA+, and is not in use when Wi-Fi is connected. And it is totally dependent on your carrier, and their APN.
On AT&T, H+ can be different depending on which APN you are on - either "wap.cingular", "phone", or "pta".
If you are connected to Wi-Fi, your speed will be totally dependent on your Wi-Fi connection's speed, and will have nothing to do with the HSPA+ radio or your carrier.

Processor? What I know is this - my Sensation can't pull these numbers over WiFi. I realize that it's not the best test, because it is not cell data. However, I wanted to see what kind of throughput my phone is capable of, and how an S2 does. And yeah, internet speeds differ, but somebody out there has an S2 and WiFi as fast as mine. I suppose my curiosity is more toward "does it utilize it fully" more than "I live by a tower and my cell speed is X" - which seems far more arbitrary to me.
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nenol said:
Processor? What I know is this - my Sensation can't pull these numbers over WiFi. I realize that it's not the best test, because it is not cell data. However, I wanted to see what kind of throughput my phone is capable of, and how an S2 does. And yeah, internet speeds differ, but somebody out there has an S2 and WiFi as fast as mine. I suppose my curiosity is more toward "does it utilize it fully" more than "I live by a tower and my cell speed is X" - which seems far more arbitrary to me.
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No offense, but this is worse than arbitrary. You have no way of knowing if someone else's Wi-Fi is the same speed as yours, which already makes this "test" invalid.
If you want to know a true comparison between S2 Wi-Fi performance vs Amaze Wi-Fi performance, you'll need the two phones side-by-side hooked up to the same Wi-Fi.

My s2 pulls from 10Mb to 24Mb

Connection is 50Mb

Thanks to those who informed why it was a silly question, thanks especially to those who managed to overcome the silliness and post numbers. My question is answered.
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It goes quite fast
SGS2 BT infinity fttc

My ISP is 100mbps
With wired PC I get ~90mbps down and ~80mbps up
So phone results are not very good

Found setting for 3G to help battery life..

Some of you are going to say 'that's old news', but for the benefit of people like myself who maybe missed it at the time, I'm going to reiterate from something which was brought up a long time ago in the xda forums, found by accident in posts from a year or two ago.
There's this thing called fast dormancy. It's like a network power saving feature, which some networks don't support, and I found a lot of people saying that when disabled, can actually help battery life on 3G. I'm not going to go into that now, if you want more info Google it..
So it was as simple as adding a line into your build prop. "ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule" with a value of "0" and rebooting.
I wasn't expecting much, but did it just for the hell of it. I've not really used my 3G data much since I did this about 4 hours ago, but I left my data switched on, which is usually enough to drain the battery a bit anyway, I'd expect to lose 7 or 8 percent normally just being connected to data. Just checked battery drain. Hasn't moved 1%??!?! UPDATE: It is still using a bit, but definitely seems better.
Also..... I've speed tested my data many times before. Usually in my house, from sitting in the same chair, in the same room, I always get say 2Mb plus or minus 0.5 Mb. Well guess what. I ran a speed test and got 5.5Mb!!! So I ran a few more and it never went below 4Mb.
Can someone please shed some light on wtf is going on here? lol
Edit: just ran another speed test. 5.26 down, 1.25 up. Something has changed here, I'm telling you. Maybe o2 have switched on a new mast right outside my window ( just kidding, there's no new masts, because there's a mast fairly close to me, I know where it is)... I've ran loads of these tests with the same phone, same network, same room, and same ROM before, and never got half of the speeds that I'm consistently hitting now. Maybe the network has been upgraded or something and its just coincidental, that wouldn't explain why my battery life on 3G does seem to be improved though..
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Anybody else fancy running a speed test, adding the line into your build prop, then rebooting, trying another speed test, and checking out your 3G battery life as well?
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Tried it but unfortunately no noticeable difference in my case (on KPN network in NL). Thanks for the suggestion tho!

No problem. Maybe there has been some kind of improvement made to my network then. After having a think about it, if I am now getting a much better signal than I was it would actually explain the increase in speed (obviously), but also it may explain the battery life increase too due to my phone not hunting for a signal as much.
That's why I was wanting someone else to try, so thanks. I didn't realise it was possible in the real world to get 5.5 megabits from HSDPA. I wonder what the theoretical maximum is from it, and the real world maximum..
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L0kiii said:
Tried it but unfortunately no noticeable difference in my case (on KPN network in NL). Thanks for the suggestion tho!
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Never thought I'd see these LTE speeds

I'm in Toronto, Canada and I just switched carriers from Bell to Rogers.
I was getting a constant ~60mbps down with bell and I was thoroughly impressed.
When I tried a speedtest on Rogers my jaw dropped.
Let's just say, I'm happy with the LTE radio in the Z1.

JuicyBrah said:
I'm in Toronto, Canada and I just switched carriers from Bell to Rogers.
I was getting a constant ~60mbps down with bell and I was thoroughly impressed.
When I tried a speedtest on Rogers my jaw dropped.
Let's just say, I'm happy with the LTE radio in the Z1.
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I hit 127 down at STC. On rogers
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c312eal said:
I hit 127 down at STC. On rogers
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We have to enjoy it before all the new devices join in and congest the network.

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No LTE MAX for me, Bell only has regular LTE where I live east of you and Rogers coverage isn't large enough where I usually go in the province

Well where i live 99% percent of the population on the entire country don't know what LTE is.
Proof? The one's that do know LTE exists think its 5g, even carrier employees
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UK EE(supposedly fastest in the Country) max was 29.86

marcyff2 said:
UK EE(supposedly fastest in the Country) max was 29.86
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I wouldn't be too jealous, they will get this for a few months until other phones (and carriers) start using the 2600MHZ AWS band. (not to mention 20Mhz cell blocks which nobody is currently using)
Also because its in the high frequency range, its not going to pass through buildings very well.. (I'm going to guess the user above was either outside, or in essentially perfect conditions to come anywhere close to 100mbps)
I'll be much more excited once they start using the 700mhz band..

omnicronx said:
(I'm going to guess the user above was either outside, or in essentially perfect conditions to come anywhere close to 100mbps)
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I was on the bus to school so you're pretty much right.
LTE signal goes to 1-2 bars indoors and the speed dips down to about 40mbps.

marcyff2 said:
UK EE(supposedly fastest in the Country) max was 29.86
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UK EE here and I had 47 down 25 up in Southampton on my last speedtest, you just need to wait for the double speed 4g roll-out to your location.

marcyff2 said:
UK EE(supposedly fastest in the Country) max was 29.86
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Am EE UK and i get 72.60 down and 29.19 upload. Liverpool area tho

I constantly get an absolute minimum of at least 60/60 here in Sweden which is more than I would ever need for my mobile devices, as for my home network that's a completely different story(250/250Mbit/s).

How come you guys do speed tests on LTE so frequently? I have a 3 GB data plan and recently visited a city with LTE coverage, I was shocked to see each test consumed about 60MB, after doing 4-5 (I previously thought it had a preset amount of data to download and just measured times)..

I can hit 60mbps with 1 bar on Fido, its faster than my 28mbps home internet which is kinda sad.
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You guys are lucky. I get this usually, for $60 a month and I only get 1GB of data. Well its better than my wifi, which is rarely over 5 down and 1 up...
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