Is just me or is Jelly Bean actually slower than ICS on HD2?
Easiest way to test this is by pulling down notification bar. In ICS it's smooth and it catches up with your finger. However in Jelly Bean you can see it lags behind your finger slightly.
Is that caused by builds that are not completely ready yet or is our HD2's hardware simply becoming too slow for Project Butter awesomeness?
I think devs still need to work on jb, since there are a lot of bugs. Ics is much older so it became really perfect(nexus hd2).
Anyway, maybe I'm wrong but jb is lighter than ics.
matejdro said:
Is just me or is Jelly Bean actually slower than ICS on HD2?
Easiest way to test this is by pulling down notification bar. In ICS it's smooth and it catches up with your finger. However in Jelly Bean you can see it lags behind your finger slightly.
Is that caused by builds that are not completely ready yet or is our HD2's hardware simply becoming too slow for Project Butter awesomeness?
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The project butter is just a nexus optimization, so on other devices jb is only a heavier ics. Without a right adaption of the code we can't get benefit from project butter specially if it is strictly hardware related
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Is it just me or after a few hours of use does TAJB's Jellybean rom become incredible slow and sluggish? I know its still in early development but its only an incremental update from ICS which seems to be stable (for the most part) but sometimes its just goes crazy on JellyBean despite the Project Butter enahncement. Im starting to think that these new versions of Android are startin to push the boundaries for our tired old Galaxy S1's :S
The hardware of the SGS1 is old and outdated its just something we have to come to terms with. After using other phones with official ICS I understand why the SGS hasn't been supported, so I'm guessing its much the same with JB..
I am using the cm10 unofficial its smooth as hell
driodmaster92 said:
I am using the cm10 unofficial its smooth as hell
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Yeah ive been using that too, its only slightly more responsive but still get the same problems. especially if i try to use google voice, the thing just goes berzerk.
I'm yet on unofficial CM10 v2 and it's very smooth, I fell diffrence than ics.
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I am using the cm10 unofficial its smooth as hell
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+1 :good:
It's the launcher, most likely. I ran into that problem as well.
I'm on iall5tar's GNex ROM 4.1.1 Port and it's smoother than ICS, which was already fairly impressive.
Our i9000's are old, but each software upgrade is just that—an upgrade. JB is better than ICS, and ICS was better than GB. We didn't get the official update because Samsung thought their Touchwiz skinned ICS wouldn't run on our hardware. In reality, it was likely because they didn't want to spend money updating a device they no longer sold. Not because our phones couldn't actually run it.
My phone has no been faster than it is now, with JB. Blame the ROM, not the OS or the hardware.
After coming from slim ics 4.2 I also noticed slowdowns almost everywhere such as app opening, entering settings etc. On the other hand I felt the same with early and not so early ics roms like icssgs, and always went to gb roms after day or two because of slowdowns, lack of toggles etc.
Then I tried slim ics 3.x and never looked back. Same will probably happen with jb, first builds are ummature but when devs look deeper into sources and find differences and optimization for sgs, the phone will be beast
I just hope there will be other option for handling the limited space in internal flash memory than removing datadata altogether, as jb seems to improve touch and animation smoothness there is little Google can do to improve I/O performance.
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JB is not the end!
Hey Guys
I am using JB at the Moment, too (TAJB v6). I tested every JB ROM for our SGS from start, and in my opinion, the GNex ports were the fastest and also very stable, but unfortunately, the people want to move forward to CM10! Anyway, JB is definetly not too much for the SGS! Everything feels fast and smooth, exept of the randomly occuring super-launcher-lags. If this happens, just kill the Launcher Task or reboot. I think JB is not the last update for our SGS!
The clue in most cases lies in the term Alpha! You flash Alpha roms you are in effect becoming a tester, so don't grumble....work towards finding solutions and posting relevant feedback and bug reports
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The clue in most cases lies in the term Alpha! You flash Alpha roms you are in effect becoming a tester, so don't grumble....work towards finding solutions and posting relevant feedback and bug reports
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this slowness is because v6 is based on pawitp's CM10 build which has datadata deleted and used instead of it slower data/data.
try derteufel's JellyBean v2 - it works like a charm!
[jRO03C] OFICIAL ANDROID 4.1.1 (JELLY BEAN) GNEX STOCK ROM (16/07/12)
I'm on [jRO03C] OFICIAL ANDROID 4.1.1 (JELLY BEAN) GNEX STOCK ROM (16/07/12) since yesterday and it is still smooth as babyskin. No slowing down trouble.
Only issue is my BLN does not work anymore, probably because of one little setting
Fixed the BLN issue,I had to RTFM Enable pulsating notification light.
Found one other issue, volume during phone call is loud and cannot be changed.
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I'm on [jRO03C] OFICIAL ANDROID 4.1.1 (JELLY BEAN) GNEX STOCK ROM (16/07/12) since yesterday and it is still smooth as babyskin. No slowing down trouble.
Only issue is my BLN does not work anymore, probably because of one little setting
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For those with lots of lag I recommend flashing again. I was on CM10 Alpha and it was super slow. Couldn't believe people were saying it was fast. Flashed Slim Beans which was also slow. Figured either people are crazy or it's me. Even read something about older phones having slower memory than newer ones etc.
Flashed Slim Beans a second time and this time there is no comparison. Now it is much faster. In fact it is almost like having a different phone.
I'm on [ROM GNEXUS PORT] jro03c 4.1.1 beta 4 [oficial jelly bean stock rom] and at first it's sluggish as hell...after a while it does begin to work a little bit smoother....but then again, it's nothing compared to other ICS 4.0.3-4.0.4 custom roms out there....it still needs a lot of work.
It has nothing to do with datadata and everything to do with the fact that project butter hasn't even been implemented yet. For example I use slim and it is super fast, it has no datadata.
Also we need a driver update and until we get that no butter for us.
Plus its an alpha build. Give it a break.
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vSync is not working yet. Also all JB releases are currently signed "Alpha" or "Beta", so what do you expect? They are not (yet) made for being used as a daily driver. Thanks to the devs, the development will continue
BTW: I also tried all current JB ROMs but they are still too unstable for me. It's nice to see that the i9000 can run them but actually they are not that stable yet.
yea it`s slow
i`m using JR003C it seems so slow and the network signal is down sometimes..:confused
There is a fix for the slow V6 on teamjellybean.noez.in but this is down for now... Wait for V7 and it will be smooth i think.
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this slowness is because v6 is based on pawitp's CM10 build which has datadata deleted and used instead of it slower data/data.
try derteufel's JellyBean v2 - it works like a charm!
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no its not i've tested the one with datadata and the one without there is no difference
Just starting this to see what all the hype is around Jelly Bean
Maybe the performance
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montage mahal said:
Just starting this to see what all the hype is around Jelly Bean
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poSFV9_abcw Check this out.
It has "Butter", they made the animations smoother.
The notifications in the drop down are also different, they can now contain more lines of text.
It is numerically superior to ICS (4.1 vs 4.0). Lol joke...
I guess the most anticipated feature is probably project butter, which ramps up the interface to 60 fps, eliminating the occasional stutter we see in ICS right now. Hopefully this will deliver a true lag free experience for our sgs
At this stage? It can make non rooted users jealous while they wait for an official version
So, now that we've had JB on our KF for about a month, I'm wondering why Google made 4.1 Jelly Bean, instead of just updating ICS to v4.1. Don't get me wrong, JB is fine but aside from Google Now, I don't see any real benefits of JB over ICS. I guess it's nice that on some JB roms, you can have either a tablet or phone ui but I just have the rom I'm using on tablet and haven't had any need to switch to phone. I'm on twa_priv's CM10 SGT7 rom and it runs great but so did his CM9 rom.
I guess it's no big deal but you would think that to go from ICS to JB, the corresponding version number would be Android 5.x. but IMO, I don't think this "update" warranted going up a full version number, or from ICS to JB. In my everyday use, I really don't see a difference between the two. Google talks about Project Butter, well ICS ran damn smooth for me, so I'm really not noticing the butter.
To sum it up, while there's nothing really wrong with JB, for me, it's pretty underwhelming to be considered a major revision update. Any and all opinions are welcome, especially those pointing out specific JB features/benefits that I'm not seeing.
Mike T
There's enough changes under the hood for it to be a newer version.
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There's enough changes under the hood for it to be a newer version.
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That's a very general statement. What are some of these changes that may make a difference to allow it to be a whole new version, as opposed to an updated version of ICS?
Mike T
Because it sounds better from a marketing stand point?
I see your point that to a front end user not an whole lot of differences. But I think they did a lot of optimization and performance enhancements that the developers considered to be worthy of an upgraded OS rather than a patch to the old version.
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sweeds said:
Because it sounds better from a marketing stand point?
I see your point that to a front end user not an whole lot of differences. But I think they did a lot of optimization and performance enhancements that the developers considered to be worthy of an upgraded OS rather than a patch to the old version.
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Very good point re: Marketing. I would think Google introducing the Nexus 7 with something "different" in JB makes sense. For me, after playing around with it and looking through the file structures, it feels like an updated ICS with a nicer notifications interface and a cool new killer app in Google Now. IMO, there's very little difference both visually and performance-wise from ICS. Maybe rightfully so, because ICS is a very good OS on its own.
I'm all for progression and I think that Google Now has tons of potential. GN is a big selling point for me with JB, I just hope that Hashcode, or some other programming genius finds a way to get a mic working, so we can take advantage of its capabilities. Of course, regardless, I'll still want to be on the cutting edge, using the latest and greatest OS...unless it's a total dud!:laugh:
Mike T
I think that between Project Butter, new notifications and Google Now that there's enough to call it a new version ie JB, but it's just not big a change according to google for a major version change, just a minor one.
Just imagine what's going to be needed for the next major version change
I see all these ROMs in the subsection for them and I can't find a single one that's actually decent. Since CM9 development has ceased and Pershoot isn't releasing any JB roms (since the 16th) there's really no decent, stable, lightweight ICS option that I can find for our tablets.
Requests:
Lightweight
3.0+ Kernel
ICS
P4/P7500 support
Am I missing a specific build? I've tried like 4 or 5 of them and they always turn out to be slow and unresponsive or they don't support the P4/P7500 so I can't get 3G connectivity. The 3.0+ kernel works amazingly well with Chrome and has a lot of enhancements for Android in general.
Tried:
CM9/CM10
AOSP JB Alpha
AOKP
Others
L33t Masta said:
I see all these ROMs in the subsection for them and I can't find a single one that's actually decent. Since CM9 development has ceased and Pershoot isn't releasing any JB roms (since the 16th) there's really no decent, stable, lightweight ICS option that I can find for our tablets.
Requests:
Lightweight
3.0+ Kernel
ICS
P4/P7500 support
Am I missing a specific build? I've tried like 4 or 5 of them and they always turn out to be slow and unresponsive or they don't support the P4/P7500 so I can't get 3G connectivity. The 3.0+ kernel works amazingly well with Chrome and has a lot of enhancements for Android in general.
Tried:
CM9/CM10
AOSP JB Alpha
AOKP
Others
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well, I am not sure what's your are looking or asking, but I can tell that I am on AOSP JB Alpha, and quite happy with performance, its smoothness, only thing so far front camera does not works, but it is matter of time developer get fix that. CM10 is identical to AOSP JB Alpha. In fact, why they call Alpha no idea, in my opinion it should be called beta. In my experience, I got OTA update from Samsung for ICS 4 (USA stock firmware I am referring), I said finally Samsung!, but after several days playing with it, I realized it is becoming slow and laggy, so i backed up everything and gave a try to MapleSyrup's [ROM][JB][AOSP][ALPHA] Android 4.1.1 - Jelly Bean - [GT-P7510][SCH-I905].
Hey XDA,
Alright first things first, this ISNT a ' which rom is the best ' thread.
I wanna know which android version is more stable for everyday use. I know some people say gingerbread is the fastest and absolute best BUT i want to know which out of Jelly Bean and Ice Cream Sandwich is better. Is Jelly Bean fast? Bugfree? Comparable to GB on the HD2?
Thanks in advance
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i want to know which out of Jelly Bean and Ice Cream Sandwich is better.
Is Jelly Bean fast? Bugfree?
Comparable to GB on the HD2?
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In my opinion, ICS is as smooth as Android can be on our old HD2, it is also fast. But sometimes it just hangs, like, when doing heavy stuff it can freeze (obviously).
On the other hand, jelly bean varies depending on which ROM and which version (still, based on my opinion).
As for version 4.1, it wasn't as smooth as ICS used to be (for me), it was fast, but not smooth, and yes, we do have HWA on JB and ICS.
For version 4.2, I had two experiences (which I couldn't find a reasonable explanation for).
I tried two ROMs: tytung's NexusHD2 and seaman2k's SeaJB.
I had an opposite experience from both. tytung's was fast, but not smooth, whereas seaman's was smooth but not fast. I know that that might not make much sense, so let me explain.
On seaman's, pulling down the notification's bar seems smooth and fluid, but on tytung's it kind of stutters and lags. But on tytung's, apps performance and launching speed was fast, on seaman's it was relatively slower.
I think the difference is because that seaman's is a port, while tytung's is built from source.
If you want to know whether a version is bugfree or not, just check some of the roms available. Roms with the same version are likely to have the same problem (if any). ICS and JB 4.1 are bug free as far as I know, but JB 4.2 has some issues with the camera (although I faced non, since I use a 3rd party cam app, and I don't record videos).
On GB, you might get the smooth and responsiveness, your device will also be stable (i.e. no sudden hangs or freezes like in ICS or JB) but since GB doesn't have HWA, it won't perform as good as in JB or ICS. I mean web browsing, running apps and playing games.
This was all based on my opinion. Feel free to do your own research.
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Thanks man for very details. I tried many roms before. I'm using JB 4.2.2 now but still want to come back GB. With clean rom everything is smooth, fast until install some apps.
Do you try MIUI? It's very good but get heavy battery drain with my phone & don't have soft button. I love MIUI theme, icons, call recorder, file manager, ...
This is my opinion.
Thanks.