[Q] recomendations? GPS? - Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, with blackfriday sales all over the dang place, I am contemplating getting a new phone.
My thoughts where:
HTC Incredible 4g LTE
Moto Razr M
I am new to Verizon, and dunno if there is any funky business with the GPS.
Like, I have a T-Mo mytouch 4g and it has a true gps chip or w/e inside, and my old iphone 3g had some kinda crappy simulated GPS using the cell signal.
I primarily use the phone for FB and other instant messaging, streaming music/video, GPS in both car and hiking(with offline maps cached for loss of signal), and on rare occasion will I ever download a game (I gotta be danged bored)
I'm leaning towards the Incredible 4g LTE cause I can get it free through Best Buy lol, but it has a 1.2ghz dual core cpu and the Razr M has the 1.5 but will cost me $100 straight through verizon.
So, my questions are:
Does the Razr M have true GPS and not simulated junk?
What are your opinions between the two?
Thanks in advance

I am not really sure how I could test the GPS thing for you. If you give me a method, I'd gladly test it.

GPS is a real gps, not like the one apple uses.

I ordered my M from Amazon for 1 cent
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Bestbuy is matching Amazon wireless prices through the holidays.
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Incredible - Is it worth it?

Hey guys,
I have kind of a unique situation...
I do a lot of International travel for work - as such I currently have a VzW TP2. About a week ago the screen "shattered" (beneath the surface - phone still works fine). Looking at VzWs International Phones, I am disgusted by my options...
They can get me a replacement TP2, but then I will be locked into 2 years (work policy) with an already out-dated hardware phone (love the phone - but even with the Overclock now...a 3mp camera w/o flash...etc...it is out-dated). Of course they offered me an Imagio and or the LG Fathom. None of these phones make me excited about having it for 2 more years.
I really want either an Incredible or an X (too bad they arent International)...I was sort of leaning toward the Incredible since I like HTC and from what I understand they use the same battery...so just assuming the Incredibles battery life is better? Plus the X doesnt have a flash does it?
Anyway... to my question.
What I was thinking about doing - was getting an Incredible or an X - using that Domestically and then before I travel, de-program it (*228 ???) and program my cracked up TP2 and use that overseas, and when I come back de-program the TP2 and re-program the Incredible/X.
I travel about 1-3 weeks per trip, and usually about 6-8 trips per year.
The crappy part is I use my TP2 to watch movies on the plane from time to time...so if I use the cracked TP2 when traveling...I will be watching movies on a busted up screen...which sounds crappy but I REALLY want an Incredible or an X.
So - those of you that have the Incredible - and hopefully some of you were former TP2 users - would the above scenario be worth it to you? Or would you just get a replacement TP2 (my current TP2 is OC'ed stable at 729mhz - runs very smooth, but was never happy with the camera. only way to get a "decent" picture is to take the cover off before you take the picture) ???
The other option I may have is switching to AT&T and getting the Captivate...but not a huge fan of going to AT&T.
Sorry for the long post - looking forward to hear what you all have to say.
Sounds like a pretty good plan, sorry about ur broke screen. couldn't u use incredible on the plane though? Airplane mode with WiFi on?
Is for activating and deactivating I couldn't tell u, sorry.
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tcberg2010 said:
Sounds like a pretty good plan, sorry about ur broke screen. couldn't u use incredible on the plane though? Airplane mode with WiFi on?
Is for activating and deactivating I couldn't tell u, sorry.
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yeah i could - just dont really care to have to carry 2 phones around =)
i travel pretty light (one to the big things i loved about getting my tp2 - stopped taking a phone, camera, ipod and went to just the TP2).
VzWs International phone selection is horrible right now...(not that it was ever great).
I personally love the DInc. I came from the samsung intensity(lol) to lg dare, to droid eris, to the DInc.
such a great phone you wont be dissappointed
I came from a Touch Pro 2 same as you, I loved my TP2. As far as an International phone It's pretty hard to beat.
That being said, aside from the International aspect there is no comparison.
It did take me a while to get used to not having a keyboard but the benefits of the Incredible make it well worth it.
Get the Incredibe, you won't regret it.
Also, you might look into getting a replacement screen for your TP2.
gadget!
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ditto on coming from the TP2
The incredible is a definite upgrade. but if you have time to wait for a new phone........ wait
Samsung Galaxy S (Verizon will call it Samsung Fascinate)
will possibly be available next month for 200 with contract. Better GPU, Process, Screen Size, Screen Quailty, Battery life..
theoneownz said:
ditto on coming from the TP2
The incredible is a definite upgrade. but if you have time to wait for a new phone........ wait
Samsung Galaxy S (Verizon will call it Samsung Fascinate)
will possibly be available next month for 200 with contract. Better GPU, Process, Screen Size, Screen Quailty, Battery life..
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do you know if it will be a global phone ???
from what i have found looks like no (CDMA only) ???
You could also pick up a used storm or tp2 for a few bucks and get the dinc for day to day. Tp2 would probably be a better choice since the batteries are interchangable. Seen them all over cl for cheap.
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CDMA actually has a pretty fair international penetration. The GSM folks would have you believe that you can barely travel outside the USA and still use CDMA. Nothing could be further from the truth, and GSM is no panacea either. It has the same differing frequency issues as CDMA does.
Here's an interactive map of CDMA areas worldwide so you can check if where you tend to travel has CDMA coverage. http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
You can also check with Verizon to see what countries they have CDMA roaming capability in.
If there is CDMA in the area you travel, get the Incredible.
Update: VZW has a very inexpensive dual CDMA/GSM phone, the Escapade, that is well reviewed. It isn't fancy, but it will keep you in touch.
http://shop.verizonwireless.com/?id...dorid=ONLINEMEDIA&index.html&cid=BAC-prodrsch
http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones...8.html?tag=rb_content;contentMain#reviewPage1
Just curious... why do u not want the fathom? Its running a snapdragon 1GHz processor - I have one and I love it, everything runs really smoothly.
Not trying to start a debate or anything... like I siad - I'm just curious.
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Just curious... why do u not want the fathom? Its running a snapdragon 1GHz processor - I have one and I love it, everything runs really smoothly.
Not trying to start a debate or anything... like I siad - I'm just curious.
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3.2MP camera, maybe it is better than the 3.2MP camera on the TP2 - but I dont want to bother. I'd like a GOOD camera and would prefer a flash if possible...
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CDMA actually has a pretty fair international penetration. The GSM folks would have you believe that you can barely travel outside the USA and still use CDMA. Nothing could be further from the truth, and GSM is no panacea either. It has the same differing frequency issues as CDMA does.
Here's an interactive map of CDMA areas worldwide so you can check if where you tend to travel has CDMA coverage. http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
You can also check with Verizon to see what countries they have CDMA roaming capability in.
If there is CDMA in the area you travel, get the Incredible.
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thanks for the website. looks like some of the areas i travel are OK but my most frequent (Europe) has very limited if any CDMA capability.
anyone know if it is possible to do the de-program, program using *228 w/ 2 phones ???
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3.2MP camera, maybe it is better than the 3.2MP camera on the TP2 - but I dont want to bother. I'd like a GOOD camera and would prefer a flash if possible...
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That makes sense... Thanks for the reply.

Should I sell my nexus S for a G2??

Convince me. The stainless Steele body is appealing to me. I don't really see a difference in the processor speeds, and the full keyboard is appealing. Battery life on my nexus s is unimpressive however and I've heard that the nexus s packs a bigger battery. Can anyone persuad me????
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HTC > Samsung
End of discussion.
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Lol could you slightly eloborate
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Not gonna lie with the recent 1.3ghz kernel for the Nexus S and the insane benchmark results at that level, I was tempted to sell my G2 and pick up one. In the end though, I love my G2 too much to give it up.
Japan chip.
Expandable SD chip
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Hspa chip *
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Well I'd be using at&t... so I'd be isolated to edge. I have a 4g wimax hotspot iI take with me tho so it's not an issue. How is the screen compared to the nexus s?
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I'll trade you my g2 fo the nexus s ;].
In terms of screens most would probably like the nexus s screens more since its more vibrant <--- LOL.. colorful and all that smack. However the g2's screen would likely to be sharper than the nexus s. All depends on what you are using it for. Nexus s's screen would be better than g2 if you were doing multimedia, but g2 is probably better for reading text and etc.
EDIT: I would like to note that once you feel the g2's build you most likely won't want to let go of it. Just feels so solid. I took my cases off the g2 because I missed the feeling of the actual phone
The G2? Why not wait for a dualcore phone? hehe.
jthornton71707 said:
Well I'd be using at&t... so I'd be isolated to edge. I have a 4g wimax hotspot iI take with me tho so it's not an issue. How is the screen compared to the nexus s?
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You can get the Desire Z, the Bell Canada brand uses the same band width AT&T 3g 850mhz and 1900mhz so you can have the HTC Vision for AT&T and still get 3g speeds, heres a link to specs on the Bell Desire Z:
http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.HTC-Desire-Z/70785.details?tab=1&wlcs_catalog_item_sku=70785
Heres a snip from the spec page:
Connectivity
Compatible with the HSPA network
14.4 Mbps
Global access
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Mobile Wi-Fi Hotspot (connect up to 8 Wi-Fi devices)
DLNA
GPS
Bluetooth® 2.1
Micro USB connection
UMTS/HSPA 850/1900
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
joemm said:
You can get the Desire Z, the Bell Canada brand uses the same band width AT&T 3g 850mhz and 1900mhz so you can have the HTC Vision for AT&T and still get 3g speeds, heres a link to specs on the Bell Desire Z:
http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.HTC-Desire-Z/70785.details?tab=1&wlcs_catalog_item_sku=70785
Heres a snip from the spec page:
Connectivity
Compatible with the HSPA network
14.4 Mbps
Global access
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Mobile Wi-Fi Hotspot (connect up to 8 Wi-Fi devices)
DLNA
GPS
Bluetooth® 2.1
Micro USB connection
UMTS/HSPA 850/1900
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
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Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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jthornton71707 said:
Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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I found this thread on a diffrent web site from someone who bought one for AT&T, heres what it said:
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Finally gave up on ATT getting any decent Android devices. Well, the Fascinate seems OK, but lots of complaints on these forums (and elsewhere) about various things. Plus, the outlook for new devices in the first part of next year does not look very promising either. And I've always been a big HTC fan. I found out that Bell Canada released the HTC Desire Z about a month ago, with 3G bands compatible with ATT's network. I decided to take the plunge. Not an easy pill to swallow, as an unlocked, unsubsidized device like this goes for a premium (and obviously not for everyone). But what the heck, its a been a good year, and I decided to get myself a Christmas gift.
For those that may not know, and are interested in the Desire Z, the Bell-branded NAM version, model number A7275 is currently the only one that will work with ATT's 3G network. The European and T-Mobile (the G2) versions will only work on EDGE. So take care when shopping around.
Let me tell you guys, this device is amazing. The build quality is excellent, with most of the body being a gorgeous brushed aluminum, accented with some slightly grippy plastic (also nice looking, and does not cheapen the appearance). The keyboard is very good. The layout is slightly different from my trusty old Tilt2, with the keys slightly smaller (and one less row of keys). But after one week with the device, I'm already adjusting quite well.
I've played around with Project Android on my trusty old Tilt2, so Android is not completely new to me. I'm still getting accustomed to where some things are located, but that is true with switching to any new phone OS. Knocks on Android for not being as "smooth" as the iPhone seem largely unfounded to me. The Desire Z is super smooth, and of course has tons of customization and functionality that the iPhone will never have. And the HTC Sense modifications are all very nice.
TO get the phone up and running, I just had to slip my SIM into the device, and manually enter in the ATT data network APN settings (only had WiFi before I did this), and was good to go with 3G speed. I already keep my contacts, email, calendar on Google. So the Google implementation is awesome for me. I just entered my Google login and password, and it synched all that stuff in a couple minutes.
The vendor stated on their website that SIM unlocking voids the manufacturers warranty. So I decided to go ahead and root, the day after I received the phone (and now overclocked, as well). Also used a couple different tools (Titanium Backup and Absolute System Root Tool) to successfully remove the Bell bloatware. The Bell ROM is missing the HTC Locations app (I use Google Maps all the time anyway), and the Android car panel (which I don't really like), but otherwise, the Bell ROM is pretty close to stock. So I'll stick with the stock ROM for now.
Moral of the story, no regrets buying an unlocked Desire Z. Absolutely loving it!
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I highlighted in red above the exact model you need to buy for it to work on AT&T 3g network and I remember reading somewhere else that it has to be this exact model number, I think it was in a thread here on xda developers and they gave a link on where to but it from, Ill try and find it for you, but in the mean time heres the link for the site I got the above thread from.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/A...e-Z-unlocked-Bell-Canada-branded/td-p/2631459
I find HTC's build quality to be much better that Samsung's. The heft and the feeling of the desire z, is what originally won me over when I was debating between it and the samsung vibrant.
jthornton71707 said:
Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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I purchased mine from Ebay. I believe Negri Electronics also sells it online. It'll run you in the neighborhood of $500-600.
I'm selling my Nexus for a G2. I'm going to make at least $250, and the G2 seems at least equal to or better than the Nexus in every category except the screen. I can sacrifice the SAMOLED for a SLCD for $250 (plus the added benefits like a non-plastic body, 4G, a keyboard, and a notification LED).
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TheBiles said:
I'm selling my Nexus for a G2. I'm going to make at least $250, and the G2 seems at least equal to or better than the Nexus in every category except the screen. I can sacrifice the SAMOLED for a SLCD for $250 (plus the added benefits like a non-plastic body, 4G, a keyboard, and a notification LED).
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Wow, that was quick, didnt you just get your G2?
Guess that speaks volumes for the G2 vs Nexus S.
joemm said:
Wow, that was quick, didnt you just get your G2?
Guess that speaks volumes for the G2 vs Nexus S.
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Man. I was considering selling my G2 and picking up a Nexus S, but this thread has pretty much gotten rid of that idea. What do you guys think about the MT4G, though? I am still considering picking up that one and dumping the G2. (Still haven't gotten accustomed to the keyboard.)
I'm baffled why anyone would want a myTouch over a G2.
Just saying that dumbass name pisses me off. myTouch. ugggggh
However, I wouldn't mind having a Nexus S to play with. I don't think I'd ever give up my G2 though. <3
Hot_Hands said:
I'm baffled why anyone would want a myTouch over a G2.
Just saying that dumbass name pisses me off. myTouch. ugggggh
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This. Not to mention its a pretty ugly device.
boost3d23 said:
This. Not to mention its a pretty ugly device.
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Yeah, when I first decided to buy a new phone a couple of weeks ago, I just figured the myTouch was a ****ty phone based on its name and was going with the G2 for sure, but then I learned that it certainly competes hardware-wise...and coming from an iPhone 3G, I would very possibly be more comfortable with its form factor.
Lighter and smaller, too. I suppose if this "mirror" tool ends up working well so I can video chat with the G2, that will solve my last big problem. Anyone think that will pan out?

Just Braggin'

In the event that anyone else is in the same boat, I thought I'd share my experience with the Acer Iconia tablet in conjunction with my CM7 Evo. In a word: awesomefulness.
There's no wifi at work (don't judge), so I've pressed my Evo's wifi hotspot capability into action, and I really couldn't be happier. I'll probably die of some sort of radiation poisoning, but I'm good with that. Using Touchdown for Exchange and Docs to Go, I have an ideal manager's tool.
I took a road trip to Arkansas this weekend (from the DFW area), and used the same setup while in the car (I rode in the back seat). Couldn't have worked better or smoother, really.
I've also rooted the Acer, which makes life all that much better. Looking forward to new goodies from this community. I'm available for testing pretty much anything.
Using the USB port to keep the EVO charged adds bonus points
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Using the USB port to keep the EVO charged adds bonus points
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I love that feature too..
I'm tethering my Streak to my A500 as i type this at work!! lol
Tethering it to any 4G device makes it so much better. I love being able to listen to Pandora on the fly. I also like being able to get emails, look up stuff and facebooking on the go. Oh and I was pleasantly surprised at Tmo's 4G speeds in San Antonio, My personal Cell is the MyTouch and my work is the EVO 4G... Everywhere I go its 4G this and that but I want to see verizons in San Antonio. Some people say it is getting 14mbps, WTF... Highest I have gotten on TMo is 8mbps. Highest on the EVO is 5.1mbps. Still better then some peoples DSL... YAY
Agreed on all counts. Works amazingly. The piped in 8mb connection from AT&T is working great off my Inspire.
(I'm attaching a screenshot off my Inspire because people tend to doubt AT&T is capable of this)
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(I'm attaching a screenshot off my Inspire because people tend to doubt AT&T is capable of this)
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shopped!
haha thats actually pretty decent speeds, i was getting between 5 and 8 mb/s on sprints 4G in boston with my Evo Shfit tethered to my Iconia.
using 3G on the ride to boston i was getting between <1 and 2 mb/s
as happy as i am with sprint, their data speeds aren't the best in town.
as for tethering to the Iconia, works perfectly with my Evo Shift running MikShift 1.01. my poor phone was hitting close to 120F while tethering and running GPS, a few times the charger shut down due to heat issues. (my friend was driving, used my phone as GPS)
I didn't even think about charging my G2 while using it as a hotspot...great idea and thanks!
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Is this the 4G news we have been waiting for?

http://www.slashgear.com/novatel-ex...-verizon-4g-approval-next-stop-xoom-19153125/
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it would be nice if motorola used this modem card for the xoom as they had promised us a free 4G upgrade in the future(2013?).
I wonder when are 3G xoom owners finally gonna get fed up and file some class action suit against motorola for promising false accusations of 4G upgrades to everyone. they never said when they would do the free upgrades so technically it could be in the year 2020
Also, with verizon having the Thunderbolt phone and Droid Charge phone running 4G on their LTE network so far, why can't motorola use a similar 4G chip as those phones?
Given the amount of time 3G xoom owners have waited very patiently for our 4G upgrade and sdcard upgrade, I wish motorola would keep us more informed on what's going on
ariurban said:
it would be nice if motorola used this modem card for the xoom as they had promised us a free 4G upgrade in the future(2013?).
I wonder when are 3G xoom owners finally gonna get fed up and file some class action suit against motorola for promising false accusations of 4G upgrades to everyone. they never said when they would do the free upgrades so technically it could be in the year 2020
Also, with verizon having the Thunderbolt phone and Droid Charge phone running 4G on their LTE network so far, why can't motorola use a similar 4G chip as those phones?
Given the amount of time 3G xoom owners have waited very patiently for our 4G upgrade and sdcard upgrade, I wish motorola would keep us more informed on what's going on
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"Verizon had promised a free 4G update for the XOOM when it launched the 3G version of the slate earlier in the year. At the time, though, no 4G miniPCI modems certified for the LTE network were available"
Motorola has nothing to do with network.
Nope, the news I'm waiting for is that I can send my Xoom in for the upgrade. I'd rather wait longer for a good, tested chip then a rushed version of something else. This is a one-time upgrade I want them to get right.
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"Verizon had promised a free 4G update for the XOOM when it launched the 3G version of the slate earlier in the year. At the time, though, no 4G miniPCI modems certified for the LTE network were available"
Motorola has nothing to do with network.
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My question again, why can't they not use a similar card like that being used on the verizon thunderbolt or the droid charge? Is it that much different?
IT mean i would be able to use My USA xoom in Europa?
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One thing I'm worried about is the fact that the Bionic was reportedly delayed due to bad battery life relating to overheating.
Apparently the LTE card and Tegra 2 processor Didnt get along and were not playing nicely together.
In the case of the Bionic, the phone was reportedly scrapped until it can be retooled and redesigned to fix its issues.
In the case of the XOOM, who knows what they can/can't do or if the same Tegra 2/LTE problems exist but the delay we've already had isn't promising.
Considering that the XOOM is the only Tegra 2 Verizon device out there (the bionic was supposed to be the next) I don't think its a far stretch to say that the XOOM could be experiencing similar issues.
Thoughts?
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One thing I'm worried about is the facta that the Bionic was reportedly delayed due to bad battery life relating to overheating.
Apparently the LTE card and Tegra 2 processor Didnt get along and were not playing nicely together.
In the case of the Bionic, the phone was reportedly scrapped until it can be retooled and redesigned to fix its issues.
In the case of the XOOM, who knows what they can/can't do or if the same Tegra 2/LTE problems exist but the delay we've already had isn't promising.
Considering that the XOOM is the only Tegra 2 Verizon device out there (the bionic was supposed to be the next) I don't think its a far stretch to say that the XOOM could be experiencing similar issues.
Thoughts?
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I don't think Ltd plays nice with anything. Used to own a thunderbolt. Speeds cool but did no good on a dead phone.
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gbenj said:
One thing I'm worried about is the fact that the Bionic was reportedly delayed due to bad battery life relating to overheating.
Apparently the LTE card and Tegra 2 processor Didnt get along and were not playing nicely together.
In the case of the Bionic, the phone was reportedly scrapped until it can be retooled and redesigned to fix its issues.
In the case of the XOOM, who knows what they can/can't do or if the same Tegra 2/LTE problems exist but the delay we've already had isn't promising.
Considering that the XOOM is the only Tegra 2 Verizon device out there (the bionic was supposed to be the next) I don't think its a far stretch to say that the XOOM could be experiencing similar issues.
Thoughts?
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I thought the same thing when I heard the news about the Bionic. I'm still hoping this is an already resolved technical issue that's being fine tuned for imminent release. I'll be honest and say that I'm growing a bit impatient waiting for LTE and official SD Card support for this device. I know i'm an early adopter, but waiting months for promised functionality is not something I'm happy with right now, I travel weekly for my job and I could really use that 4G upgrade considering the poor connectivity at the area hotels.
I consider it a lesson learned and even though i'm mostly happy with my Xoom, it will be put up for sale by the summer while it still has value if Moto/VZW/Google doesn't deliver by then. I'll replace it with a wifi only tablet & a dedicated LTE modem, probably a more flexible config for my needs IMO.
This excerpt is particularly interesting...
"As well as LTE there’s quadband HSPA+..."
This could mean a AT&T / T-Mobile version might not be far behind? I already have my XOOM but wouldn't mind seeing the XOOM gain an even larger mindshare / foothold.
The furthest I'm willing to be patient with the update is if another tablet comes to Verizon with LTE.
After seeing some of the info about the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and some rumors that it'd be coming to Verizon, if that thing comes out with LTE before the XOOM gets upgraded, Verizon/MOTO would have some explaining to do.
Other than that scenario, I agree with the early adopter reasoning. I can't be too mad that its taking longer than expected, just a little disappointed.
Hmm i had the dell streak 7 on t-mobile 4g coverage area & the battery was dead in most cases in less than 3hrs even on wifi too..so i dont see the what the hold up is ..if t-mobile got it to work in that sorry excuse for a tablet (streak 7) then Verizon/motorola better step it up..it's bad to see other tablets coming out with working sd slots & some even 4g already & the xoom is still 2 steps behind !!!
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Hmm i had the dell streak 7 on t-mobile 4g coverage area & the battery was dead in most cases in less than 3hrs even on wifi too..so i dont see the what the hold up is ..if t-mobile got it to work in that sorry excuse for a tablet (streak 7) then Verizon/motorola better step it up..it's bad to see other tablets coming out with working sd slots & some even 4g already & the xoom is still 2 steps behind !!!
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T-Mobile's '4G' network runs on a 3rd generation network upgraded to '4G' speeds, it didn't require much in terms of hardware upgrades.
Verizon uses an entirely new spectrum and technology called LTE that is more of a 4G product.
Xoom Owners getting Fed up with Motorola
I guess some guy is taking Verizon to court in west LA over the Xoom and lack of LTE. Others on the Motorola customer support board are organizing to file complaints to the FTC about Verizon and Motorola.
catchxxii said:
I guess some guy is taking Verizon to court in west LA over the Xoom and lack of LTE. Others on the Motorola customer support board are organizing to file complaints to the FTC about Verizon and Motorola.
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Link? I would like to get involved also... I am tired of the 4g promises, time for results.
My Xoom received the 4G upgrade last month. No 4G in this area, however, but the turnaround time for the upgrade was less than a week.
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JFMFT said:
My Xoom received the 4G upgrade last month. No 4G in this area, however, but the turnaround time for the upgrade was less than a week.
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Did you have to get a full wipe?
Got my 4g update as well and yes I got a full wipe, bone stock xoom back, good thing is I'm in Tampa and we have great 4g coverage, this thing hauls ass.
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How fast does the juice haul ass from the battery?
As fast as the hott air coming out of that liars mouth.
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[Q] New phone - what should I get?

I work for a company that provides cell service and my 2 years contract is expiring soon. I am eligible for a new device. I have had a Droid X on my personal plan, but plan to sell it once I get the upgraded business device.
Here is what my company supports - which one should I get and why?
AT&T - Apple iPhone 4 32GB Black
AT&T - HTC Inspire 4G
AT&T - HTC Tilt 2
Sprint - HTC EVO 4G
T-Mobile - myTouch 4G Black
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4G
Verizon - Apple iPhone 4 32GB
Verizon - Thunderbolt by HTC
Verizon - LG Vortex
Verizon - LG Ally
Verizon - Motorola Droid 2 Global
Not much of an option, IMO. TIA.
What's important to you? Keyboard? Battery?
As mrkite said, what's important to you? AT&T in this area, NYC Metro, still has poor service and a 2gB data cap so scratch their phones for me. T-Mobile is probably going to be gobbled up by AT&T so they're out.
The iPhone doesn't have a user replaceable battery and it wouldn't last me through the day, that and the Thunderbolt (which has poor battery life) are off the list. I'd also rather have Android over Apple.
The LG phones are pretty old so that leaves the Droid 2 Global. I have a Droid X and really want an LTE phone but don't see one that I like yet. Maybe by September.
My droid x has decent battery life -
what's important: battery life, coverage, 4g, android (gb preferred), software keyboard.
You're not impressed with the bionic or other 4g phones out now or soon?
I'm weary of the bionic, as I'm not particularly happy about the screen (pen-tile), web top shadow os and the distinct possibility of a locked bootloader. So, if possible, I would wait for the next round of phones, or wait for a sgs II, that looks amazing. If not, get a thunderbolt. It has tons of dev's working on it and they do make extended battery's.
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First things first, go Verizon.
Battery life: get the iPhone
Speed: HTC Thunderbolt
Plus, as was mentioned, the TB has a ton of dev work on it so you could probably do a bit more.
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DO NOT GET AN IPHONE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
That being said, go for either the thunderbolt or the evo. Both are excellent phones
Wow - many thanks for your responses!
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If you are already an Android user, I'd stick with that. Final response for me: Thunderbolt
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+1 for the Evo. Rom of choice, MIUI! No 4geez, but it is buttery smooth and battery life is superb. No data cap is pretty darn swell too, and Sprint seems to be pretty stinkin root friendly.
(Or hope your company allows the Evo 3D soon...)
Sprint - HTC EVO 4G I know HTC battery sucks but this was what I was going to get before we made the switch to Verizon
If you can, I would wait as long as possible, and see if any better choices come out before you need to upgrade. The Thunderbolt it a nice-ish phone, but it doesn't have dual-core...
Maybe if Motorola comes out with a new, dual-core, 4G phone, with an unlocked bootloader...and maybe a supermodel will knock on my door tonight...
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+1 for the Evo. Rom of choice, MIUI! No 4geez, but it is buttery smooth and battery life is superb. No data cap is pretty darn swell too, and Sprint seems to be pretty stinkin root friendly.
(Or hope your company allows the Evo 3D soon...)
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There actually is 4g. It says so in its name......

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