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Mytouch 4g or G2?

I am trying to get peoples opinions about on which phone I should get... I have a Samsung Vibrant and I hate the phone... I have narrowed down to the two options, 1) Mytouch 4G or 2) G2. I don't know which one i should get or if any of those two are for me at all. If everyone could give me their opinions that would be awesome!

Slide out keyboard over front facing camera anyday... g2

Its personal preference. Both have advantages over the other. The MyTouch4G has a front facing camera, 256MB more ram and is slimmer. The G2 has a full physical keyboard, more solid design, better dev support.

the mytouch series is a joke. they're for people who dont really know what android is and its capabilities.
g2. any day.
or if its your cup of tea, wait for the nexus s.

Nexus S. Buying a mt4g is a joke right now.
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I would take the mytouch 4g over the nexus s. It has more features and the hardware is better. It may not be as pretty as the nexus s but it's not ugly.
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nivlac978 said:
I would take the mytouch 4g over the nexus s. It has more features and the hardware is better. It may not be as pretty as the nexus s but it's not ugly.
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Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch

Vandam500 said:
Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Its true.
But it wasnt long ago the ORIGINAL MyTouch got a Froyo update.
So you already know how TMO will be treating updates for the MyTouch 4G.
Its very possible you wont get Gingerbread till after Honeycomb is released.
You have to decide what you want in a phone.
I just moved from the Nexus One to the G2 this weekend to give it a try.
The G2 is faster but I may jump back to the N1 so I can have Gingerbread.
I like the faster updates personally.
I wont get a Nexus S for a few months after they are released.
I'll wait till they start showing up on Craigslist for $200 less than the
price of a new one.

Vandam500 said:
Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.

bradleymor said:
Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Well it may not be real "4G" but I get 4G like speeds

going_home said:
Its true.
But it wasnt long ago the ORIGINAL MyTouch got a Froyo update.
So you already know how TMO will be treating updates for the MyTouch 4G.
Its very possible you wont get Gingerbread till after Honeycomb is released.
You have to decide what you want in a phone.
I just moved from the Nexus One to the G2 this weekend to give it a try.
The G2 is faster but I may jump back to the N1 so I can have Gingerbread.
I like the faster updates personally.
I wont get a Nexus S for a few months after they are released.
I'll wait till they start showing up on Craigslist for $200 less than the
price of a new one.
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Remember the G2 has full support from the ROM makers. It will get Gingerbread pretty soon via XDA. I say matter of weeks, maybe days after the Gingerbread source has been released

bradleymor said:
Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G. Its a new generation of data speeds, get over the semantics. I do agree that its lame to exclude some of the things excluded on the Nexus S, including 4G.
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G2 if you type a lot and want almost stock Froyo
Mytouch4G if you want a front facing camera and don't mind TMobile's HTC sense
But then again this is XDA, you can root and get whatever lovely ROM a developer has cooked up on your phone. So it just comes down to hardware if you want to root it.

sinistersai4d4d said:
Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G. Its a new generation of data speeds, get over the semantics.
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Not to mention at current speeds (whatever you want to call them) it's very easy to eat through your entire monthly bandwidth cap in an afternoon. Given this, wtf is the point of more speed? I'd take a higher cap over more speed any day of the week at this point.

sinistersai4d4d said:
Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G.
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EDGE is faster than GPRS (2G), so did that make it 3G ? HSDPA is faster than 3G, so should we call that 4G ?
HSPA+ isn't "4G", so I don't think it's helpful to label it as such. Bad T-Mobile !

I got the G2 and my wife picked the white MyTouch 4G. Personally, I think the G2 is better (obviously). It has a hardware keyboard, better dev support, stock Android (with a *really* easy HTC Sense port, since the Desire Z is the same hardware).
Preferences aside, the MyTouch line is really.....plasticky. When I use her phone, the plastic squeaks like crazy - that annoys me like no other, especially on such a 'high-end' phone.

steviewevie said:
EDGE is faster than GPRS (2G), so did that make it 3G ? HSDPA is faster than 3G, so should we call that 4G ?
HSPA+ isn't "4G", so I don't think it's helpful to label it as such. Bad T-Mobile !
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Thank you. Peoples need to understand this. 4G by ITU-R standards is only available through networks with IMT-Advanced, and trust me....NO network has that capabilities yet......
With that aside,I'd go with the G2!! More industrial feel, not plasticky like samsung and mytouch 4g. Even the nexus S won't feel as good as the G2, even with the better hardware.
I wish Google would have stayed with HTC for the second Nexus.

keyboard or NO keyboard, that is the question..

I went with the Desire Z for a few reasons:
Great Developer Support
GREAT Build Quality - I HATE phones that are made of any plastic/cheap material
QWERTY Keyboard - I send upwards of 100 Messages a day between SMS and Email
New Generation Processor - The 800mhz was a disappointment to me when I read the specs, but after reading of its over-clocking capabilities and having run mine at 1.4ghz for the past few weeks, this is a huge advantage of the G2/Desire Z.

Should I sell my nexus S for a G2??

Convince me. The stainless Steele body is appealing to me. I don't really see a difference in the processor speeds, and the full keyboard is appealing. Battery life on my nexus s is unimpressive however and I've heard that the nexus s packs a bigger battery. Can anyone persuad me????
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HTC > Samsung
End of discussion.
/thread

Lol could you slightly eloborate
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Not gonna lie with the recent 1.3ghz kernel for the Nexus S and the insane benchmark results at that level, I was tempted to sell my G2 and pick up one. In the end though, I love my G2 too much to give it up.

Japan chip.
Expandable SD chip
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Hspa chip *
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Well I'd be using at&t... so I'd be isolated to edge. I have a 4g wimax hotspot iI take with me tho so it's not an issue. How is the screen compared to the nexus s?
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I'll trade you my g2 fo the nexus s ;].
In terms of screens most would probably like the nexus s screens more since its more vibrant <--- LOL.. colorful and all that smack. However the g2's screen would likely to be sharper than the nexus s. All depends on what you are using it for. Nexus s's screen would be better than g2 if you were doing multimedia, but g2 is probably better for reading text and etc.
EDIT: I would like to note that once you feel the g2's build you most likely won't want to let go of it. Just feels so solid. I took my cases off the g2 because I missed the feeling of the actual phone

The G2? Why not wait for a dualcore phone? hehe.

jthornton71707 said:
Well I'd be using at&t... so I'd be isolated to edge. I have a 4g wimax hotspot iI take with me tho so it's not an issue. How is the screen compared to the nexus s?
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You can get the Desire Z, the Bell Canada brand uses the same band width AT&T 3g 850mhz and 1900mhz so you can have the HTC Vision for AT&T and still get 3g speeds, heres a link to specs on the Bell Desire Z:
http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.HTC-Desire-Z/70785.details?tab=1&wlcs_catalog_item_sku=70785
Heres a snip from the spec page:
Connectivity
Compatible with the HSPA network
14.4 Mbps
Global access
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Mobile Wi-Fi Hotspot (connect up to 8 Wi-Fi devices)
DLNA
GPS
Bluetooth® 2.1
Micro USB connection
UMTS/HSPA 850/1900
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900

joemm said:
You can get the Desire Z, the Bell Canada brand uses the same band width AT&T 3g 850mhz and 1900mhz so you can have the HTC Vision for AT&T and still get 3g speeds, heres a link to specs on the Bell Desire Z:
http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.HTC-Desire-Z/70785.details?tab=1&wlcs_catalog_item_sku=70785
Heres a snip from the spec page:
Connectivity
Compatible with the HSPA network
14.4 Mbps
Global access
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Mobile Wi-Fi Hotspot (connect up to 8 Wi-Fi devices)
DLNA
GPS
Bluetooth® 2.1
Micro USB connection
UMTS/HSPA 850/1900
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
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Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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jthornton71707 said:
Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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I found this thread on a diffrent web site from someone who bought one for AT&T, heres what it said:
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Finally gave up on ATT getting any decent Android devices. Well, the Fascinate seems OK, but lots of complaints on these forums (and elsewhere) about various things. Plus, the outlook for new devices in the first part of next year does not look very promising either. And I've always been a big HTC fan. I found out that Bell Canada released the HTC Desire Z about a month ago, with 3G bands compatible with ATT's network. I decided to take the plunge. Not an easy pill to swallow, as an unlocked, unsubsidized device like this goes for a premium (and obviously not for everyone). But what the heck, its a been a good year, and I decided to get myself a Christmas gift.
For those that may not know, and are interested in the Desire Z, the Bell-branded NAM version, model number A7275 is currently the only one that will work with ATT's 3G network. The European and T-Mobile (the G2) versions will only work on EDGE. So take care when shopping around.
Let me tell you guys, this device is amazing. The build quality is excellent, with most of the body being a gorgeous brushed aluminum, accented with some slightly grippy plastic (also nice looking, and does not cheapen the appearance). The keyboard is very good. The layout is slightly different from my trusty old Tilt2, with the keys slightly smaller (and one less row of keys). But after one week with the device, I'm already adjusting quite well.
I've played around with Project Android on my trusty old Tilt2, so Android is not completely new to me. I'm still getting accustomed to where some things are located, but that is true with switching to any new phone OS. Knocks on Android for not being as "smooth" as the iPhone seem largely unfounded to me. The Desire Z is super smooth, and of course has tons of customization and functionality that the iPhone will never have. And the HTC Sense modifications are all very nice.
TO get the phone up and running, I just had to slip my SIM into the device, and manually enter in the ATT data network APN settings (only had WiFi before I did this), and was good to go with 3G speed. I already keep my contacts, email, calendar on Google. So the Google implementation is awesome for me. I just entered my Google login and password, and it synched all that stuff in a couple minutes.
The vendor stated on their website that SIM unlocking voids the manufacturers warranty. So I decided to go ahead and root, the day after I received the phone (and now overclocked, as well). Also used a couple different tools (Titanium Backup and Absolute System Root Tool) to successfully remove the Bell bloatware. The Bell ROM is missing the HTC Locations app (I use Google Maps all the time anyway), and the Android car panel (which I don't really like), but otherwise, the Bell ROM is pretty close to stock. So I'll stick with the stock ROM for now.
Moral of the story, no regrets buying an unlocked Desire Z. Absolutely loving it!
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I highlighted in red above the exact model you need to buy for it to work on AT&T 3g network and I remember reading somewhere else that it has to be this exact model number, I think it was in a thread here on xda developers and they gave a link on where to but it from, Ill try and find it for you, but in the mean time heres the link for the site I got the above thread from.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/A...e-Z-unlocked-Bell-Canada-branded/td-p/2631459

I find HTC's build quality to be much better that Samsung's. The heft and the feeling of the desire z, is what originally won me over when I was debating between it and the samsung vibrant.

jthornton71707 said:
Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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I purchased mine from Ebay. I believe Negri Electronics also sells it online. It'll run you in the neighborhood of $500-600.

I'm selling my Nexus for a G2. I'm going to make at least $250, and the G2 seems at least equal to or better than the Nexus in every category except the screen. I can sacrifice the SAMOLED for a SLCD for $250 (plus the added benefits like a non-plastic body, 4G, a keyboard, and a notification LED).
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TheBiles said:
I'm selling my Nexus for a G2. I'm going to make at least $250, and the G2 seems at least equal to or better than the Nexus in every category except the screen. I can sacrifice the SAMOLED for a SLCD for $250 (plus the added benefits like a non-plastic body, 4G, a keyboard, and a notification LED).
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Wow, that was quick, didnt you just get your G2?
Guess that speaks volumes for the G2 vs Nexus S.

joemm said:
Wow, that was quick, didnt you just get your G2?
Guess that speaks volumes for the G2 vs Nexus S.
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Man. I was considering selling my G2 and picking up a Nexus S, but this thread has pretty much gotten rid of that idea. What do you guys think about the MT4G, though? I am still considering picking up that one and dumping the G2. (Still haven't gotten accustomed to the keyboard.)

I'm baffled why anyone would want a myTouch over a G2.
Just saying that dumbass name pisses me off. myTouch. ugggggh
However, I wouldn't mind having a Nexus S to play with. I don't think I'd ever give up my G2 though. <3

Hot_Hands said:
I'm baffled why anyone would want a myTouch over a G2.
Just saying that dumbass name pisses me off. myTouch. ugggggh
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This. Not to mention its a pretty ugly device.

boost3d23 said:
This. Not to mention its a pretty ugly device.
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Yeah, when I first decided to buy a new phone a couple of weeks ago, I just figured the myTouch was a ****ty phone based on its name and was going with the G2 for sure, but then I learned that it certainly competes hardware-wise...and coming from an iPhone 3G, I would very possibly be more comfortable with its form factor.
Lighter and smaller, too. I suppose if this "mirror" tool ends up working well so I can video chat with the G2, that will solve my last big problem. Anyone think that will pan out?

Sprint VS Verizon & Epic 4g Vs. Droid 2.

Ok so yesterday, i was setting up shortcuts to bookmarks for my fellow employess on there epics and one person with a droid 2.
First thing i noticed the droid 2 is ugly square weird looking device also has the ugliest looking dullest screen EVER!!!
The epics bookmarks look nice with a nice red ribbon the droids bookmark is an ugly gray box that has something in it which i couldnt tell what it was cause the screen was not vibrant/bright at all.
Overall seriously this super amoled screen is amazing compared to all other phones i compared however the evo and the incredible dont look too bad but Super amoled wins!!!!
Now to service on verizon, ugh 3 bars in a 5 bar area for sprint.
Now when i come across places with both full bars i opened up the browser loaded the web page sprint killed verizon in loading it.
In this somewhat a review...
Overall: Epic=Brightest Prettiest Screen EVER.
Sprint vs verizons service and 3g speeds= Sprint one
Just something i noticed today and i must say im happy with sprint and the epic just wish they would hurry up with the official froyo.

well... ok. that can be said about almost any phone's screen compared to the epic. truth is the only thing i'll miss when i get my next phone is going to be the amoled screen

murso74 said:
well... ok. that can be said about almost any phone's screen compared to the epic. truth is the only thing i'll miss when i get my next phone is going to be the amoled screen
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Why not get another Samsung?? LOL
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yeah my next phone can't be anything but samoled or its further iterations. anything less is a serious turn off

Check out Galaxy S2

musclehead84 said:
Why not get another Samsung?? LOL
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Hes probaly fed up with the delay of froyo.
Im not im satified with my epic on 2.1 stock rooted with mobile ap and after looking at all my friends different screens and phones i love it!!! i played with sense and is pretty cool but launcher pro is still the best!!!
Im not in any hurry for froyo to come out til we have a working infrastructure hotspot!! I do like that noobnls already got 2.3 running!! cant wait for cm6 with infrastrucute wireless tether and even cm7 probaly no far along after the official source drops. but im in no hurry or going to ***** and whine cause i know my phone still blows all other phones out of the water.

Yeah, I have a friend with a Droid 2 and another with a Droid Incredible. Playing with both of their phones made me very happy with my Epic. Have to say at least here, Sprint's 3G is noticably faster than Verizon's. I'm 3 hours away from the nearest 4G market.
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Same goes for the evo...I'll take a far superior screen and better gpu and wait for updates a few months longer if that's the choice.
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Yes the Epic screen is ridiculous

Please do not do any more "reviews". You clearly do not know what you are doing and showing alot of bias, and you cannot compare the 2 netowrks from the area you are standing in and conclude one is better.
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Verizon as a telco company is crap and their mobile department isn't much better. If it weren't for the fact that the lazy workers at verizon were unionized, BS contracts, and verizon's exclusive deal to provide the federal gov. with BB services, Verizon would be worse off than Microsoft in the mobile department right now.
/end rant

Well they prob are in pretty good shape right now, they have the new moto and lg dual core phones comin (not to mention the iphone also) along with their lte network.....they gotta be in good shape

If they're so bad how come they're the company we go roaming to when we have no signal? I mean damn yeah our phone may be better but you can't judge it based on phone with disimiliar parts and two different carriers. You can't say you would have posted this if you were in a dead zone and only the Droid 2 was working. I appreciate the review but the bias invalidates the evidence. In Journalism of any sort you limit yourself from a full bias. Partial do exist.
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All I'm saying is the 3g speeds compared and are noticebly faster on sprint.
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davidrules7778 said:
All I'm saying is the 3g speeds compared and are noticebly faster on sprint.
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I don't know where you are but where I am, Verizon is King! My Sprint phone next to a Verizon phone is like a slug on 3G and I'm always roaming on Verizon. Even in my house, I can have 4 or 5 bars on Sprint, the out of no where, my Sprint signal drops to nothing and I'm roaming on Verizon with 3 bars. It seems, a 3 bar signal on Verizon is like having 5 bars on a Sprint phone... At least around here.
BTW, not all bars are equal, when comparing them on different phones. The reason is how the signal level is programmed to display. I'm thinking Samsung might like to show more bars then HTC, Motorola, or even a Blackberry at a given signal level. Maybe Sammy does this because their antennas suck!

crabjoe said:
I don't know where you are but where I am, Verizon is King! My Sprint phone next to a Verizon phone is like a slug on 3G and I'm always roaming on Verizon. Even in my house, I can have 4 or 5 bars on Sprint, the out of no where, my Sprint signal drops to nothing and I'm roaming on Verizon with 3 bars. It seems, a 3 bar signal on Verizon is like having 5 bars on a Sprint phone... At least around here.
BTW, not all bars are equal, when comparing them on different phones. The reason is how the signal level is programmed to display. I'm thinking Samsung might like to show more bars then HTC, Motorola, or even a Blackberry at a given signal level. Maybe Sammy does this because their antennas suck!
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then if verizon offers better coverage why not switch ?
I mean sometimes the way people choose their network is weird, i choose which has best coverage in the area im in. and as for phones , I choose which has the features I want.

murso74 said:
well... ok. that can be said about almost any phone's screen compared to the epic. truth is the only thing i'll miss when i get my next phone is going to be the amoled screen
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luckily Samsung said they were keeping their Samoled screens exclusive to Samsung for ~18 months or so.... By the time I'm looking for a new phone it'll be available to other manufacturers

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Verizon has an exclusive deal to provide BB serices to the govt.? That is news to me because my agency and other federal agencies are using Sprint.
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cbpagent72 said:
Verizon has an exclusive deal to provide BB serices to the govt.? That is news to me because my agency and other federal agencies are using Sprint.
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DOJ civil division uses BB.

Which Should I Get? HTC EVO 4G or Inspire 4G?

hi, guys/.. i need to make a decision about which phone to get. i'm torn between the HTC EVO 4G and the HTC Inspire 4G. whats important for me is battery life and camcorder and camera quality. i got 3 questions:
1) if optimized with the best roms and kernels for each, which is the best one in terms of batt life?
2) again, if optimized with best roms and kernels, which is the best one in terms of smoothness of camcorder and camera quality?
3) can i use the front camera on the EVO 4G for video chat?
4) do you use video chat a lot?
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Quite obviously, asking in an Evo 4G forum won't get you biased answers. Just saying.

Yeah, I'd hope you'd be asking the same question in the Inspire 4G forums as we, over here, can 'mostly' speak for what we know. The Evo has great dev support / following and I can't be bothered to look (not that it would even be representative of the Inspire support) if it's even similar.
I would first look at providers / carriers. AT&T kind of sucks ... then again, as some will tell you, Sprint doesn't have the greatest coverage in certain areas. I'd first look past the phone options, and on to coverage. I love Sprint, not only because I get good coverage here, but also due to the unlimited data. But that may not be the case for you. Overall, the Inspire may be a better device but I can't be bothered to look. If you are serious about joining Sprint, maybe you'd consider the EVO 3D? Entirely a better phone, yet still waiting on root. Chances are, unless you should get lucky, you'd end up with an un-rootable Evo. In time, though ....
I wouldn't necessarily look, first, to the phones. The Evo is a dated device, no denying that, but still solid. So before you lock yourself in anywhere ...

don't worry about the phones. focus on the service.
Sprint has unlimited 4g data ATT don't
ATT has faster 4g
Sprint is cheaper.
ATT may have better coverage in your area..... maybe it doesn't make a difference. I live i philly. I never have a problem with coverage, even 4g unless I'm undeground which noone has coverage.
I suggest you start with sprint and if you aren't happy with the service return your phone with in 30 days get your money back and go to ATT.
But signing a two year contract you really should get a phone that will be decent in two years. You ain't going to want a evo 4g in two years. Evo 3d on the other hand will blow any HTC on any carrier out of the water right now

Why are these your only two options?
Neither are great choices as of right now imo...
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jessejames111981 said:
don't worry about the phones. focus on the service.
Sprint has unlimited 4g data ATT don't
ATT has faster 4g
Sprint is cheaper.
ATT may have better coverage in your area..... maybe it doesn't make a difference. I live i philly. I never have a problem with coverage, even 4g unless I'm undeground which noone has coverage.
I suggest you start with sprint and if you aren't happy with the service return your phone with in 30 days get your money back and go to ATT.
But signing a two year contract you really should get a phone that will be decent in two years. You ain't going to want a evo 4g in two years. Evo 3d on the other hand will blow any HTC on any carrier out of the water right now
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Att doesn't even have real 4g. Sprints 4g is faster
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it all depends if you wanted to root right away.. The Evo 4g shipped from Sprint is now only shipped with the OTA 2.3.3 which is unrootable atm. Hopefully soon as there seems to be alot of progression going on.
The Inspire 4g I dont know much about because I've always wanted an Evo when I started with an Android Phone.. LG Optimus S was my 1st android and now the Evo which is making me mad because I cant root yet.. thanks to HTC locking the bootloader

xlk said:
hi, guys/.. i need to make a decision about which phone to get. i'm torn between the HTC EVO 4G and the HTC Inspire 4G. whats important for me is battery life and camcorder and camera quality. i got 3 questions:
1) if optimized with the best roms and kernels for each, which is the best one in terms of batt life?
2) again, if optimized with best roms and kernels, which is the best one in terms of smoothness of camcorder and camera quality?
3) can i use the front camera on the EVO 4G for video chat?
4) do you use video chat a lot?
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1. My evo got 26 hours of battery life today, before I finally charged it.
2. The sense 3.0 camera takes some absolutely beautiful pictures. I don't really have a good way to rate that, lol
3. Yes
4. Yes
I love my evo. There is a huge and great development community behind it. Which is a huge plus when your looking to root, there's also alot of accesories etc.
Sprint has true 4g that is very easy to turn on off.
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xlk said:
hi, guys/.. i need to make a decision about which phone to get. i'm torn between the HTC EVO 4G and the HTC Inspire 4G. whats important for me is battery life and camcorder and camera quality. i got 3 questions:
1) if optimized with the best roms and kernels for each, which is the best one in terms of batt life?
2) again, if optimized with best roms and kernels, which is the best one in terms of smoothness of camcorder and camera quality?
3) can i use the front camera on the EVO 4G for video chat?
4) do you use video chat a lot?
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1. inspire has a slightly better batt life but only by minutes.
2. camera is about the same
3. yes u can use the evo's ffc for video chat i have used skype,qik and gtalk
4. once or twice a week.
Also another thing to note is the inspire does have sense 2.1 stock and the evo does not. But with a custom rom u can get sense 2.1 or 3.0 on the evo.
ONE HUGE PROBLEM with the inspire is their is a bug where the newest firmware was supposed to unlock non market installs but on some phones the option is still locked. HTC and att do not have a date on when this will be fixed. So what this means is if u get a inspire with this bug u will not be able to install apps from the sd card or the amazon market, U will only be able to install apps thru the android market. This to me makes the choice pretty clear evo all the way

Just get the evo 3D

I would agree with the EVO 3d statement and the plan suggestions. Right now Sprint is the only carrier offering unlimited data plans. Which is pretty huge considering how many things are going cloud based now. Music Beta, Amazon, Spotify, Netflix, Google Movies, etc.. This is more important than ever now.
However, if you never see yourself using these services its really a moot point.
Of course, If you do go with sprint, I'd suggest getting the 3d over the evo if you can spare the extra hundo. Its a way more powerful phone.

To those comparing 4G of Sprint and AT&T...
Aren't they both NOT true 4G? The carriers are just marketing it as 4G because it's faster than 3G. If I remember correctly, 4G is supposed to be between 100mb/s and 1gb/s. The technologies we see right now are considered pre-4g, since they only get up to 144mb/s (144 for WiMAX, 100 for LTE) I'm taking this from the 4G wiki page: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And yes I know AT&T isn't on either yet... they use HSPA+ which shouldn't even be considered 4G at all lol
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cg 112358 said:
To those comparing 4G of Sprint and AT&T...
Aren't they both NOT true 4G? The carriers are just marketing it as 4G because it's faster than 3G. If I remember correctly, 4G is supposed to be between 100mb/s and 1gb/s. The technologies we see right now are considered pre-4g, since they only get up to 144mb/s (144 for WiMAX, 100 for LTE) I'm taking this from the 4G wiki page: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And yes I know AT&T isn't on either yet... they use HSPA+ which shouldn't even be considered 4G at all lol
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to cq and the rest of you, i appreciate your input.. but lets stay on topic.. which is the questions that i need answered. thanks.

xlk said:
to cq and the rest of you, i appreciate your input.. but lets stay on topic.. which is the questions that i need answered. thanks.
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people are trying to that the phones are similar enough where you should focus on the carriers.
yes the front camera can be used for video chat. I personally don't see the big deal behind it but if thats your cup of tea then ok. Judge camera quality for yourself by asking to see pictures taken from each phone.
But really all the differences are slight enough where service and price are the biggest noticable differences.

Zac95 said:
1. My evo got 26 hours of battery life today, before I finally charged it.
2. The sense 3.0 camera takes some absolutely beautiful pictures. I don't really have a good way to rate that, lol
3. Yes
4. Yes
I love my evo. There is a huge and great development community behind it. Which is a huge plus when your looking to root, there's also alot of accesories etc.
Sprint has true 4g that is very easy to turn on off.
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i want to get the EVO 4G on Metro PCS. but i want to make sure that MMS and GPS work on Metro PCS. but importantly, i got to make sure that a custom ROM for it can enhance batt life. all this with sense 3.0.

cg 112358 said:
To those comparing 4G of Sprint and AT&T...
Aren't they both NOT true 4G? The carriers are just marketing it as 4G because it's faster than 3G. If I remember correctly, 4G is supposed to be between 100mb/s and 1gb/s. The technologies we see right now are considered pre-4g, since they only get up to 144mb/s (144 for WiMAX, 100 for LTE) I'm taking this from the 4G wiki page: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And yes I know AT&T isn't on either yet... they use HSPA+ which shouldn't even be considered 4G at all lol
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Wimax is true 4g, and heavily out powers hsdpa+
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xlk said:
i want to get the EVO 4G on Metro PCS. but i want to make sure that MMS and GPS work on Metro PCS. but importantly, i got to make sure that a custom ROM for it can enhance batt life. all this with sense 3.0.
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Sense 3.0 would eat either phones battery given their not built for it.
Aosp roms get the good battery
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EVo

What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...

Pivo187 said:
What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...
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specs: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3742
4g: the 4g will be the same $10 charge we pay for the current wimax 4g
Speed: no one knows how good the lte will be yet but it will almost definitely be above 2mbps since you can get about 5mbps on the current 4g and lte is much better.
Coverage: they just started rolling out lte so it will be a while before it covers anything near what verizon has. but if the rumors are true then we should have lte just about anywhere we have 3g at some point in the future
hope this answers your questions

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What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...
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For specs http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-4665.php visit here. In short, the screen on this phone has been voted by some, as the best on a smart phone yet; as well as the camera.
Id recommend on also do a comparison on 4g vs lte to see the true differences, but lte should bring a much faster network to us. In reality 2mb down is very slow for lte speeds, and in many areas it's common to get 15mb down or more.
Also, chances are that if you are not receiving 4g services currently, you will more than likely be one of the last ones to receive the lte service. LTE or not, this phone is definitely worth the upgrade on 3g alone.
Hope this helps you a bit.

Why is it def worth the upgrade for 3g alone? BTW I just started modding my evo 4g LoL maybe I should visit sprint & see how well the 4glite network is in my area...maybe wait til it goes full swing to 5mb like you said...also I just ordered exdended batteries 3 weeks ago!! lol

If you are still enjoying the EVO Og, and it is doing everything you need it to, there's nothing wrong with stick with it until more details emerge on the LTE network. For a lot of us, we've been flashing and modding since the phone first came out and it's time to move on.
A few big reasons to consider still switching over though are:
- Mod support - a large chunk of the top devs from OG Evo are making the switch, meaning, most of them will likely stop development on this phone.
- The battery life upgrade is going to make a huge difference, or at least we hope. Considering the fact that no one has one in hand yet, we don't have an accurate depiction of the actually battery life - but consider it safe to say that it will easily outlast the OG.
- Screen wise side-by-side it is night and day. Although OG screen isn't bad, a decent comparison is when you first made the switch from watching standard cable to hd (assuming you have).
- Processor is much, much, faster. This will allow for better game play, smooth transitions, and a better overall user experience.
I could literally write at least another 10 - 20 reasons on why to make the switch, but really no need. As I said, if you're still happy with the OG and don't feel the need to switch just yet, you likely will not miss out on much anyways.

Right I understand..Did they finally move the SD card location to the outside and not behind the damn battery...I hated that about the evo...When is the phone due to be out?

id_twin said:
If you are still enjoying the EVO Og, and it is doing everything you need it to, there's nothing wrong with stick with it until more details emerge on the LTE network. For a lot of us, we've been flashing and modding since the phone first came out and it's time to move on.
A few big reasons to consider still switching over though are:
- Mod support - a large chunk of the top devs from OG Evo are making the switch, meaning, most of them will likely stop development on this phone.
- The battery life upgrade is going to make a huge difference, or at least we hope. Considering the fact that no one has one in hand yet, we don't have an accurate depiction of the actually battery life - but consider it safe to say that it will easily outlast the OG.
- Screen wise side-by-side it is night and day. Although OG screen isn't bad, a decent comparison is when you first made the switch from watching standard cable to hd (assuming you have).
- Processor is much, much, faster. This will allow for better game play, smooth transitions, and a better overall user experience.
I could literally write at least another 10 - 20 reasons on why to make the switch, but really no need. As I said, if you're still happy with the OG and don't feel the need to switch just yet, you likely will not miss out on much anyways.
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Wondering how long I can keep it going. If it could rum ics like sense 1.0 it would hold it own. The devs are working hard. Hats off for the efforts. So funny I will run a rom with broken features when it is perfectly capable but yet we press forward for something better. Nothing wrong with that.
Come on little evo...
Come on devs...
And thank you for your hard work.
Next flash? OK...
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The speculation is that the phone will release on May 18th with pre-orders receiving them (possibly) early. And yes, the phone's micro-sd slot is no longer behind the battery, in fact, you will likely never see the battery ever unless you decide to take your's apart.

Yes. No need to worry. Get it. Now. It's in all our best interest. Do it.
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So we will not be able to upgrade the battery!? That sounds like a ****ty iphoney move...THat is one reason I hated the iphone among many others...But Im a power user & I have 3 spare batteries...I work offshore & my phone can only pull 1X so its constantly drawing massive amounts of power...I usually go thru 1 sprint 2600mah battery & about 50% of an anker 1700mah battery...2000mah is not going to cut it....
Also, will sprints lte network actually work & be widespread...I have fears of the lte network never even being available somewhat like the evo 4g...I never once got to use 4g on it...BTW verizon 4g is amazingly fast & very widespread, tested it out on a friends razor max

Pivo187 said:
So we will not be able to upgrade the battery!? That sounds like a ****ty iphoney move...THat is one reason I hated the iphone among many others...But Im a power user & I have 3 spare batteries...I work offshore & my phone can only pull 1X so its constantly drawing massive amounts of power...I usually go thru 1 sprint 2600mah battery & about 50% of an anker 1700mah battery...2000mah is not going to cut it....
Also, will sprints lte network actually work & be widespread...I have fears of the lte network never even being available somewhat like the evo 4g...I never once got to use 4g on it...BTW verizon 4g is amazingly fast & very widespread, tested it out on a friends razor max
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With Sense 4.0 and ICS in general, battery life should be amazing compared to our OG Evo. If I were you, wait a couple of months to see results of how battery life is from real world experience. People with the One X with the Quad core are reporting great battery life and their phones have a smaller battery (1800 mAh). The new Evo has a SoC, 28nm chip which will help wasting precious battery life and generate less heat, as well as its larger battery. Overall it seems to be a great phone with enough new quirks to help many upgrade from the OG for a better experience.
One thing that no one talks about is that at some point were expected to be able to ROAM on someones LTE network. (Most likely Verizon) We don't have that now because nobody is running WiMAX except Sprint. Good article about it on goodandevo.net
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Roam to verizons network?? How is that possible if EVO does not use SIM card...I thought to get on another carriers network you need their sim card...I almost jumped the gun due to the low price offered at wirefly..But after the promises of 4g on the first EVO never coming to light for me I Have decided to wait & see...My current evo does everything I need. Only gripe is the 4g that sprint promised which makes me think the same will happen with 4glite....Ive tried a razor max on verizons 4glte & it leaves sprint in the dust....Also, if the lte network is not up & working when the EVO lte is released & the evo lte has no working wimax then what network are you supposed to connect too? Sounds eerily similar to the EVO 4g launch

Verizon and Sprint phones, to the best of my knowledge stopped using SIM cards awhile ago. Sprint allows us to roam on Verizon when there's no Sprint coverage because Sprint signed a roaming agreement to use Verizon.
How were going to roam, I'm not 100% sure but I'm sure we will find out soon.
goodandevo.net/2012/03/here-is-sprints-future-lte-coverage-cap.html
Edit: this would be for the new EVO LTE, not the previous WiMAX versions. Just wanted to clarify.
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You won't be able to roam as sprints lte is at 1900mhz and Verizon is something totally different.
Should be a beast of a phone though. Lte is already live in a few cities and the LG viper lte is already out along with a Samsung lte phone.
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That's true but one can hope lol. But don't forget that Sprint is shutting down Nextels iDen network which will give us the 800 MHz frequency for better building penetration. At least we have that to look forward to in the future. I think Verizon is somewhere in the 700 MHz.
Maybe Sprint classifies some builder of LTE towers (sort of like ClearWire) are the future "roaming" areas that are the grey on the map from goodandevo.net?
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